Re: [newbie] CPU question
I am running celeron 366's with big GlobalWin coolers. They run cool at 550mhz (100mhz fsb) and SMP enabled using Mandrake 8.0. Your 400mhz celerons do not overclock, I tried. Intel made the celeron to compete with the cheaper AMD K6 chips. The original release (without level 2 cache) was junk. When they came out with the ppga chip w/level 2 and SMP it was outselling the Pentium II. To save their high end PII and PIII chips, Intel made it difficult to overclock the 400 - 550 mhz celerons. When AMD introduced the K7 Intel came out with the "flip chip" (fcpga) celeron. Initially they eliminated SMP, but some of the later models have SMP pins connected in a new configuration. Ppga and fcpga celerons are not interchangeable. Powerleap makes a fcpga to ppga adapter that sells for about 25 USD. The Abit vp6 motherboard replaced the bp6 for the SMP flip chips at about 175 USD. Search Google for more info (smp, bp6, vp6, powerleap, etc.). Lee At 02:59 PM 8/31/2001 +0900, Pascal Goguey wrote: > Hello, > > I am running Mandrake on a Abit motherboard (Abit BP6) >with dual celeron. It looks like the smp kernel works fine. >The celerons I use are quite old (400 MHz) and their FSB clock >rate is 66 MHz. I was thinking I would upgrade to more recent >CPUs (about 800 MHz each, 100 MHz FSB). But I was told that >the 100 MHz celeron may not run an SMP machine. In fact, >it may work on a single processor only., so there is (according >to that person) no point in "upgrading". > Does anyone have data about this issue? > Does anybody use a BP6 with 100 MHz celerons? > > Thanks, > > Pascal > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU question
Hello! >Anyway, the original Celeron had the multiprocesing pins messed up. The >moire recent ones had the pins disconnected internally (more properly, never >connected at all). Intel was very cautious about letting the Celeron compete >against its Pentium II/III/IV line and has always kept it crippled in some >regard. Ity is likely that you _can_ overclock some celerons, especially >older slower ones simply by kicking the bus to 100. A 300MHz Celeron becomes >a 450 when properly cooled and placed on a 100MHz bus, but above 366, the >processors had to be individually tested, which is what Computernerd did so >very well. > >Civileme In fact, what I would like to know (sorry, muy question was badly formulated), is whether Intel modified the newer chips so that it is IMPOSSIBLE to run even on a dual processor board. The 2 400 MHz I have run fine, the kernel 2.4.8 smp loads, and the performance tells me that it is really running fast. Same for BeOS, where I get the dual CPU load properly displayed. I am just worrying about the upgrade. Will I get 1 cpu at 800 MHz / 100 FSB or 2? Thanks, Pascal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] CPU question
I have a BP6, with 466 celerons in it - clocked at 75 Mhz each rather than 66. This gives me a pair of 525 MHz little fellas. They run fine under 2.2.13 (from MDK 6.5) without a hitch. They did cause kernel messages under the 2.4 kernels "APIC CPU1 error" or suchlike. Dropping them down from the 78 Mhz they were at to 75 made them a little happier. Overall, I think you'll be very lucky to get a pair of CPU's which will be stable at 100 Mhz. As you have the BP6, you can increase the bus speed in little jumps - just keep going up until they either get too hot or start being flaky. Then back down one and things should be OK. You have got some decent cooling fans in there haven't you Steve Flynn NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst * 01603 687386 -Original Message- From: civileme [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:37 AM To: Pascal Goguey; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] CPU question On Friday 31 August 2001 01:59, Pascal Goguey wrote: > Hello, > > I am running Mandrake on a Abit motherboard (Abit BP6) > with dual celeron. It looks like the smp kernel works fine. > The celerons I use are quite old (400 MHz) and their FSB clock > rate is 66 MHz. I was thinking I would upgrade to more recent > CPUs (about 800 MHz each, 100 MHz FSB). But I was told that > the 100 MHz celeron may not run an SMP machine. In fact, > it may work on a single processor only., so there is (according > to that person) no point in "upgrading". > Does anyone have data about this issue? > Does anybody use a BP6 with 100 MHz celerons? > > Thanks, > > Pascal Yes, the BP6 and a few other boards were the only ones that ever made dual processor Celeron systems. You can buy overclocking SMP certified warranteed Celerons from err, the people who could help you are out of business http://www.computernerd.com/whatwentwrong.html Anyway, the original Celeron had the multiprocesing pins messed up. The moire recent ones had the pins disconnected internally (more properly, never connected at all). Intel was very cautious about letting the Celeron compete against its Pentium II/III/IV line and has always kept it crippled in some regard. Ity is likely that you _can_ overclock some celerons, especially older slower ones simply by kicking the bus to 100. A 300MHz Celeron becomes a 450 when properly cooled and placed on a 100MHz bus, but above 366, the processors had to be individually tested, which is what Computernerd did so very well. Civileme << File: message.footer >> ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life & Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU question
On Friday 31 August 2001 01:59, Pascal Goguey wrote: > Hello, > > I am running Mandrake on a Abit motherboard (Abit BP6) > with dual celeron. It looks like the smp kernel works fine. > The celerons I use are quite old (400 MHz) and their FSB clock > rate is 66 MHz. I was thinking I would upgrade to more recent > CPUs (about 800 MHz each, 100 MHz FSB). But I was told that > the 100 MHz celeron may not run an SMP machine. In fact, > it may work on a single processor only., so there is (according > to that person) no point in "upgrading". > Does anyone have data about this issue? > Does anybody use a BP6 with 100 MHz celerons? > > Thanks, > > Pascal Yes, the BP6 and a few other boards were the only ones that ever made dual processor Celeron systems. You can buy overclocking SMP certified warranteed Celerons from err, the people who could help you are out of business http://www.computernerd.com/whatwentwrong.html Anyway, the original Celeron had the multiprocesing pins messed up. The moire recent ones had the pins disconnected internally (more properly, never connected at all). Intel was very cautious about letting the Celeron compete against its Pentium II/III/IV line and has always kept it crippled in some regard. Ity is likely that you _can_ overclock some celerons, especially older slower ones simply by kicking the bus to 100. A 300MHz Celeron becomes a 450 when properly cooled and placed on a 100MHz bus, but above 366, the processors had to be individually tested, which is what Computernerd did so very well. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CPU question
Hello, I am running Mandrake on a Abit motherboard (Abit BP6) with dual celeron. It looks like the smp kernel works fine. The celerons I use are quite old (400 MHz) and their FSB clock rate is 66 MHz. I was thinking I would upgrade to more recent CPUs (about 800 MHz each, 100 MHz FSB). But I was told that the 100 MHz celeron may not run an SMP machine. In fact, it may work on a single processor only., so there is (according to that person) no point in "upgrading". Does anyone have data about this issue? Does anybody use a BP6 with 100 MHz celerons? Thanks, Pascal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
