Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 04:11, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote: > > Anne, > > > > What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup > > reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying. > > > > Miark > > > I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there would be > problems in that the software installer would not be looking at the right > place to find the disks. I'd have to check back to see exactly what was said > about this, but I think it was so. > > It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be done on > that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems? H, not sure about the software installer issue exactly, although I've never had a problem. However, I always make the following changes after I scsi emulate my DVD-ROM drive: (as root) vi /etc/devfs/conf.d/dvd.conf (then in vi):%s/ide/scsi/g :wq vi /etc/devfs/conf.d/rdvd.conf :%s/ide/scsi/g :wq service devfsd restart %s/ide/scsi/g substitutes all instances of ide in the file with scsi and ensures that /dev/dvd correctly points to your DVD drive. Btw, I initially began making this change for the benefit of Xine, not XCDroast or the software installer... I hope this helps, Regards, John... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
Tsur, Oren wrote: I followed Miark's suggestion and made the change to lilo.conf append="quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi" . It did not make a difference. When starting my x-cd-roast my DVD-ROM was still undetected, But then, AHAAA!!! But did rou run /sbin/lilo in a terminal to get the changes to /etc/lilo.conf adopted ? I changed my booting agent to grub. PRESTO Everything is working tralala!!! Oren -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
I followed Miark's suggestion and made the change to lilo.conf append="quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi" . It did not make a difference. When starting my x-cd-roast my DVD-ROM was still undetected, But then, AHAAA!!! I changed my booting agent to grub. PRESTO Everything is working tralala!!! So, ideas anyone? Every time I start my computer I get more confused, but that is well cool! Learning innit? Oren -Original Message- From: Pilaga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 March 2003 00:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast El Jue 20 Mar 2003 08:05, Tsur, Oren escribió: > Hi All > > Before I start, I am using KDE under MDK 9.0 - > > 1) How do I get X-CD-Roast to see my DVD-ROM drive? I want to use it as > primary or secondary reading device. When I go into > set up it shows my cd-rw as the recording device (which is fineda) > but in the reading device I can only see the recorder drive again. > Many thanks, Oren Oren: From www.xcdroast.org, download the last version (0.98alpha13), and you don't need SCSI emulate your DVD reader. Suerte. pilagá -- Taken from FAQ: /28. That new ATAPI mode causes problems! Should I use it?/ That new ATAPI mode is enabled by default in X-CD-Roast on linux. It requires a kernel 2.4.x and is able to access ATAPI devices directly through the IDE driver, without the help of SCSI emulation. However, that mode is still experimental and causes some problems. Using a CD writer in that mode is not recommended - please use always SCSI emulation here. The ATAPI mode on a writer will cause great delays in all X-CD-Roast operations, because communication with a device takes much more time. You will also notice a lot of driver errors in your system log files. This seems to be normal. You can tell X-CD-Roast to ignore the ATAPI mode when you start it with the "-a" option. There is also no DMA transfer supported at all though the ATAPI interface. On some not correctly installed machines X-CD-Roast will find your devices both via SCSI emulation and via ATAPI - they are displayed double in the setup. Things could work nevertheless, but use the scsi-emulated devices only then. (The devices without the "ATAPI:"-marking) Conclusion: Use your writer only with SCSI emulation, but a normal CD/DVD-ROM drive as read only device will work fine in ATAPI mode. This is also the default setup for many Linux distributions. Email Disclaimer This email has been sent from KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, or from one of the companies within its control (which include KPMG Audit Plc , KPMG United Kingdom Plc and KPMG UK Limited). The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
El Jue 20 Mar 2003 08:05, Tsur, Oren escribió: > Hi All > > Before I start, I am using KDE under MDK 9.0 - > > 1) How do I get X-CD-Roast to see my DVD-ROM drive? I want to use it as > primary or secondary reading device. When I go into > set up it shows my cd-rw as the recording device (which is fineda) > but in the reading device I can only see the recorder drive again. > Many thanks, Oren Oren: From www.xcdroast.org, download the last version (0.98alpha13), and you don't need SCSI emulate your DVD reader. Suerte. pilagá -- Taken from FAQ: /28. That new ATAPI mode causes problems! Should I use it?/ That new ATAPI mode is enabled by default in X-CD-Roast on linux. It requires a kernel 2.4.x and is able to access ATAPI devices directly through the IDE driver, without the help of SCSI emulation. However, that mode is still experimental and causes some problems. Using a CD writer in that mode is not recommended - please use always SCSI emulation here. The ATAPI mode on a writer will cause great delays in all X-CD-Roast operations, because communication with a device takes much more time. You will also notice a lot of driver errors in your system log files. This seems to be normal. You can tell X-CD-Roast to ignore the ATAPI mode when you start it with the "-a" option. There is also no DMA transfer supported at all though the ATAPI interface. On some not correctly installed machines X-CD-Roast will find your devices both via SCSI emulation and via ATAPI - they are displayed double in the setup. Things could work nevertheless, but use the scsi-emulated devices only then. (The devices without the "ATAPI:"-marking) Conclusion: Use your writer only with SCSI emulation, but a normal CD/DVD-ROM drive as read only device will work fine in ATAPI mode. This is also the default setup for many Linux distributions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
That is brilliant. Many thanks Miark Oren -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 March 2003 15:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast In /etc/lilo.conf as root, add "hdX=ide-scsi" to the append line, where X is the proper device letter. Mine is on the fourth IDE channel, so my append line looks like this: append="quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi" The last item is my DVD drive. Then, also as root, type "lilo" on the commandline to activate the change. Reboot. That should do it. Miark On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:34:49 - "Tsur, Oren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Miark > > How do you emu-scsi your DVD-ROM drive? > > Thanks, Oren > > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Urwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 March 2003 20:59 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast > > > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 8:55 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 6:42 pm, Miark wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:11:05 + > > > > > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote: > > > > > Anne, > > > > > > > > > > What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup > > > > > reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying. > > > > > > > > > > Miark > > > > > > > > I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there > > > > would be problems in that the software installer would not be looking > > > > at the right place to find the disks. I'd have to check back to see > > > > exactly what was said about this, but I think it was so. > > > > > > Maybe I missed the point. If you install Linux from the DVD drive, and > > > then later switch from IDE to SCSI emulation, that would confule urmpi. > > > Is that what you mean? > > > > > > > It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be > > > > done on that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems? > > > > > > I think using K3b is _more_ dangerous because of the changes it makes > > > directly to fstab (if you let it). > > > > > > Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh? > > > > I forgot that some people had run foul of that one. I played cautious and > > said no, since I hadn't a clue what it would try to do. Turned out that > > was exactly the right answer > > > > So be warned, Oren. If you install K3b it will ask if it can change your > > fstab. Say 'No'! > > > > Anne > > Fascinated Newbie in learn mode: > What changes does it try to make? > > -- > Richard Urwin > > > > Email Disclaimer > > This email has been sent from KPMG LLP, a UK limited > liability partnership, or from one of the companies within > its control (which include KPMG Audit Plc , KPMG United > Kingdom Plc and KPMG UK Limited). The information in > this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. > It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this > email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the > intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution > or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, > is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to > our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email > are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the > governing KPMG client engagement letter. > > > Email Disclaimer This email has been sent from KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, or from one of the companies within its control (which include KPMG Audit Plc , KPMG United Kingdom Plc and KPMG UK Limited). The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
In /etc/lilo.conf as root, add "hdX=ide-scsi" to the append line, where X is the proper device letter. Mine is on the fourth IDE channel, so my append line looks like this: append="quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi" The last item is my DVD drive. Then, also as root, type "lilo" on the commandline to activate the change. Reboot. That should do it. Miark On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:34:49 - "Tsur, Oren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Miark > > How do you emu-scsi your DVD-ROM drive? > > Thanks, Oren > > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Urwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 March 2003 20:59 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast > > > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 8:55 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 6:42 pm, Miark wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:11:05 + > > > > > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote: > > > > > Anne, > > > > > > > > > > What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup > > > > > reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying. > > > > > > > > > > Miark > > > > > > > > I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there > > > > would be problems in that the software installer would not be looking > > > > at the right place to find the disks. I'd have to check back to see > > > > exactly what was said about this, but I think it was so. > > > > > > Maybe I missed the point. If you install Linux from the DVD drive, and > > > then later switch from IDE to SCSI emulation, that would confule urmpi. > > > Is that what you mean? > > > > > > > It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be > > > > done on that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems? > > > > > > I think using K3b is _more_ dangerous because of the changes it makes > > > directly to fstab (if you let it). > > > > > > Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh? > > > > I forgot that some people had run foul of that one. I played cautious and > > said no, since I hadn't a clue what it would try to do. Turned out that > > was exactly the right answer > > > > So be warned, Oren. If you install K3b it will ask if it can change your > > fstab. Say 'No'! > > > > Anne > > Fascinated Newbie in learn mode: > What changes does it try to make? > > -- > Richard Urwin > > > > Email Disclaimer > > This email has been sent from KPMG LLP, a UK limited > liability partnership, or from one of the companies within > its control (which include KPMG Audit Plc , KPMG United > Kingdom Plc and KPMG UK Limited). The information in > this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. > It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this > email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the > intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution > or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, > is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to > our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email > are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the > governing KPMG client engagement letter. > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
On Friday 21 Mar 2003 2:16 pm, Tsur, Oren wrote: > Hi Anne > > What is K3b? I am not familiar with the abbreviations... > > Oren > K3b is the name of the application. It is on your Mandrake CDs. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
Hi Anne What is K3b? I am not familiar with the abbreviations... Oren -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 March 2003 13:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast On Friday 21 Mar 2003 10:33 am, Tsur, Oren wrote: > Can't remember such a warning/suggestion/advice along the way. > It is no big deal. When I 'list' the fstab it shows all my devices > perfectly. I never had a problem accesing any of my drives. That is why I > found it a bit strange that I couldn't see my DVD-ROM in X-CD-Roast. > > Oren Tsur > Hi, Oren. XCDRoast can only work with scsi-emulated drives. As I said before, K3b can work with ide drives without the scsi-emulation, so you can keep the emulation on your burner (where you need it) but don't need to emulate on the dvd. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Email Disclaimer This email has been sent from KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, or from one of the companies within its control (which include KPMG Audit Plc , KPMG United Kingdom Plc and KPMG UK Limited). The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 9:09 pm, Miark wrote: > Miark Thanks -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
All your filesystems (hard drives, CD drives, floppy, etc.) are listed in /etc/fstab which is the [F]ile[S]ystem [TAB]le. This is a configuration file tell Linux how to properly mount all your filesystems. When you install Linux fstab is automatically set up. If you let some program mess with it, you may lose the full or partial use of that particual filesystem. Very few programs do this, but K3b is one of them, and although its attempts to change fstab are done in good faith, they're wrong. Miark On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:58:42 + Richard Urwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fascinated Newbie in learn mode: > What changes does it try to make? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 8:55 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 6:42 pm, Miark wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:11:05 + > > > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote: > > > > Anne, > > > > > > > > What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup > > > > reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying. > > > > > > > > Miark > > > > > > I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there > > > would be problems in that the software installer would not be looking > > > at the right place to find the disks. I'd have to check back to see > > > exactly what was said about this, but I think it was so. > > > > Maybe I missed the point. If you install Linux from the DVD drive, and > > then later switch from IDE to SCSI emulation, that would confule urmpi. > > Is that what you mean? > > > > > It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be > > > done on that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems? > > > > I think using K3b is _more_ dangerous because of the changes it makes > > directly to fstab (if you let it). > > > > Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh? > > I forgot that some people had run foul of that one. I played cautious and > said no, since I hadn't a clue what it would try to do. Turned out that > was exactly the right answer > > So be warned, Oren. If you install K3b it will ask if it can change your > fstab. Say 'No'! > > Anne Fascinated Newbie in learn mode: What changes does it try to make? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 6:42 pm, Miark wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:11:05 + > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote: > > > Anne, > > > > > > What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup > > > reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying. > > > > > > Miark > > > > I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there > > would be problems in that the software installer would not be looking at > > the right place to find the disks. I'd have to check back to see exactly > > what was said about this, but I think it was so. > > Maybe I missed the point. If you install Linux from the DVD drive, and then > later switch from IDE to SCSI emulation, that would confule urmpi. Is that > what you mean? > > > It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be > > done on that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems? > > I think using K3b is _more_ dangerous because of the changes it makes > directly to fstab (if you let it). > > Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh? > I forgot that some people had run foul of that one. I played cautious and said no, since I hadn't a clue what it would try to do. Turned out that was exactly the right answer So be warned, Oren. If you install K3b it will ask if it can change your fstab. Say 'No'! Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:11:05 + Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote: > > Anne, > > > > What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup > > reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying. > > > > Miark > > > I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there would be > problems in that the software installer would not be looking at the right > place to find the disks. I'd have to check back to see exactly what was said > about this, but I think it was so. Maybe I missed the point. If you install Linux from the DVD drive, and then later switch from IDE to SCSI emulation, that would confule urmpi. Is that what you mean? > It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be done on > that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems? I think using K3b is _more_ dangerous because of the changes it makes directly to fstab (if you let it). Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote: > Anne, > > What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup > reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying. > > Miark > I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there would be problems in that the software installer would not be looking at the right place to find the disks. I'd have to check back to see exactly what was said about this, but I think it was so. It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be done on that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
Anne, What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying. Miark On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:20:43 + Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 11:05 am, Tsur, Oren wrote: > > Hi All > > > > Before I start, I am using KDE under MDK 9.0 - > > > > 1) How do I get X-CD-Roast to see my DVD-ROM drive? I want to use it as > > primary or secondary reading device. When I go into > > set up it shows my cd-rw as the recording device (which is fineda) > > but in the reading device I can only see the recorder drive again. > > > Your dvd drive is not scsi-emulated, if I remember correctly. If you make it > scsi-em, XCDRoast will see it, but you will have other problems. My advice > is to install K3b, which can read from the dvd drive without changing > anything. This is what I do. I still like XCDRoast for many things, but if > you need to read from the dvd, then K3b is the answer. > > Anne > -- > Registered Linux User No.293302 > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast
On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 11:05 am, Tsur, Oren wrote: > Hi All > > Before I start, I am using KDE under MDK 9.0 - > > 1) How do I get X-CD-Roast to see my DVD-ROM drive? I want to use it as > primary or secondary reading device. When I go into > set up it shows my cd-rw as the recording device (which is fineda) > but in the reading device I can only see the recorder drive again. > Your dvd drive is not scsi-emulated, if I remember correctly. If you make it scsi-em, XCDRoast will see it, but you will have other problems. My advice is to install K3b, which can read from the dvd drive without changing anything. This is what I do. I still like XCDRoast for many things, but if you need to read from the dvd, then K3b is the answer. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
