Re: [newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake?
> These days, however, almost all > new (quality) cameras have the ability to be mounted as a USB > portable drive, which the industry (or at least Canon) refers to > as PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol). Are you able to mount canon cameras as removable drives? My powershot A80 works great with gphoto2, but was never able to get it to show up as a drive. thanks, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake? and more
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 14 Nov 2004 22:00, geoff wrote: My Canon A80 works fine with FLphoto. My Nikon D100 isn't recognized by FLphoto but it does come up as an extra hard drive on my desktop. I haven't figured out how to upload from the Nikon yet. Regards Geoff If it shows up as an extra hard drive you can just copy the files to your hdd. It's generally best not to move them, I think, as that entails writing to the camera storage. I prefer to leave that to the camera. Anne Thanks Anne, I'll keep fiddling around with it. /I seem to spend half my life messing around in Mandrake but it's so much fun. Now if I can only stop this cursor making me type in all the wrong places. It jumps around all the time. In Thunderbird, Kmail and Evolution. I'm using 10.0 official. They say the problem will go away when I get 10.1 official? It's just turned on italics by itself and /won't turn off. Fun and games Geoff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake?
On Sunday 14 Nov 2004 22:00, geoff wrote: > > My Canon A80 works fine with FLphoto. My Nikon D100 isn't recognized by > FLphoto but it does come up as an extra hard drive on my desktop. I > haven't figured out how to upload from the Nikon yet. > Regards > Geoff If it shows up as an extra hard drive you can just copy the files to your hdd. It's generally best not to move them, I think, as that entails writing to the camera storage. I prefer to leave that to the camera. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake?
On Sunday 14 Nov 2004 21:00, John Layt wrote: > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 04:26, Wojciech Podgórni wrote: > > Hello everyone! > > I've got another hardware question. My brother is considering buying a > > digital camera. My question is - do digital cameras work well with > > Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official? Which one work the best with Linux? What > > applications should I use? > > > > Wojciech Podgórni > > > > PS. I write it from my newly installed Mandrake 10.1 OE. It looks great, > > but I have had some troubles with installing it (particularily with > > userdrake). > > Digital cameras used to be a problem, with every manufacturer having their > own control/transfer protocol which the GPhoto project had to reverse > engineer. These days, however, almost all new (quality) cameras have the > ability to be mounted as a USB portable drive, which the industry (or at > least Canon) refers to as PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol). > > When checking the spec sheets, look for some mention of PTP, driverless > install, or usb drive or something similar and you are almost guaranteed it > will work. > > Otherwise, check out the GPhoto web-site at http://gphoto.org/ for a > somewhat out-dated list of their supported cameras. > > From personal experience, all the new Canon cameras with PTP work > perfectly. > > For applications, it's hard to go past the latest version of Digikam at > http://digikam.sourceforge.net/Digikam-SPIP/ . They've just released > version 0.7 which is an absolute cracker, but it involves compiling for > now. Hopefully some rpms will be out soon. > > John. As someone said, Kodak cameras generally do work, but they still use their own transfer protocol, unlike most other brands. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake?
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Sunday 14 November 2004 12:26, Wojciech Podgórni wrote: Hello everyone! I've got another hardware question. My brother is considering buying a digital camera. My question is - do digital cameras work well with Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official? Which one work the best with Linux? What applications should I use? Most Sony Digital cameras work fine, their memory cards are simply seen as a USB storage device. My Canon A80 works fine with FLphoto. My Nikon D100 isn't recognized by FLphoto but it does come up as an extra hard drive on my desktop. I haven't figured out how to upload from the Nikon yet. Regards Geoff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake?
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 04:26, Wojciech Podgórni wrote: > Hello everyone! > I've got another hardware question. My brother is considering buying a > digital camera. My question is - do digital cameras work well with > Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official? Which one work the best with Linux? What > applications should I use? > > Wojciech Podgórni > > PS. I write it from my newly installed Mandrake 10.1 OE. It looks great, > but I have had some troubles with installing it (particularily with > userdrake). Digital cameras used to be a problem, with every manufacturer having their own control/transfer protocol which the GPhoto project had to reverse engineer. These days, however, almost all new (quality) cameras have the ability to be mounted as a USB portable drive, which the industry (or at least Canon) refers to as PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol). When checking the spec sheets, look for some mention of PTP, driverless install, or usb drive or something similar and you are almost guaranteed it will work. Otherwise, check out the GPhoto web-site at http://gphoto.org/ for a somewhat out-dated list of their supported cameras. >From personal experience, all the new Canon cameras with PTP work perfectly. For applications, it's hard to go past the latest version of Digikam at http://digikam.sourceforge.net/Digikam-SPIP/ . They've just released version 0.7 which is an absolute cracker, but it involves compiling for now. Hopefully some rpms will be out soon. John. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake?
On Sunday 14 November 2004 12:26, Wojciech Podgórni wrote: > Hello everyone! > I've got another hardware question. My brother is considering buying a > digital camera. My question is - do digital cameras work well with > Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official? Which one work the best with Linux? What > applications should I use? Most Sony Digital cameras work fine, their memory cards are simply seen as a USB storage device. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake?
Użytkownik Anne Wilson napisał: On Sunday 14 Nov 2004 17:26, Wojciech Podgórni wrote: Hello everyone! I've got another hardware question. My brother is considering buying a digital camera. My question is - do digital cameras work well with Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official? Which one work the best with Linux? What applications should I use? In my experience Olympus and FujiFilm FinePix cameras work well. Kodak cameras tend to need gphoto recognition, but most other big-name (and quite a few smaller-name) cameras simply work as a removable hard drive. The best thing to do would be to sort out two or three models that look to fit the need, then ask if anyone is using one. Anne Thank you for your answer, Anne. I'll write about details when I learn about them. Thank you! Wojciech Podgórni smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake?
On Sunday 14 November 2004 11:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 14 Nov 2004 17:26, Wojciech Podgórni wrote: > > Hello everyone! > > I've got another hardware question. My brother is considering buying a > > digital camera. My question is - do digital cameras work well with > > Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official? Which one work the best with Linux? What > > applications should I use? > > In my experience Olympus and FujiFilm FinePix cameras work well. Kodak > cameras tend to need gphoto recognition, but most other big-name (and quite > a few smaller-name) cameras simply work as a removable hard drive. The > best thing to do would be to sort out two or three models that look to fit > the need, then ask if anyone is using one. > > Anne I have a Kodak DC3400 ( couple of years old now) but it works with gphoto and also if I plug the compact flash card into my card reader I get much faster access . shows up as Genesys usb to ide card. So I would not rule out Kodak. It is an excellent camera for the money. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake?
On Sunday 14 Nov 2004 17:26, Wojciech Podgórni wrote: > Hello everyone! > I've got another hardware question. My brother is considering buying a > digital camera. My question is - do digital cameras work well with > Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official? Which one work the best with Linux? What > applications should I use? > In my experience Olympus and FujiFilm FinePix cameras work well. Kodak cameras tend to need gphoto recognition, but most other big-name (and quite a few smaller-name) cameras simply work as a removable hard drive. The best thing to do would be to sort out two or three models that look to fit the need, then ask if anyone is using one. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Digital camera & Mandrake?
Hello everyone! I've got another hardware question. My brother is considering buying a digital camera. My question is - do digital cameras work well with Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official? Which one work the best with Linux? What applications should I use? Wojciech Podgórni PS. I write it from my newly installed Mandrake 10.1 OE. It looks great, but I have had some troubles with installing it (particularily with userdrake). smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Friday 29 October 2004 10:34, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 29 Oct 2004 08:53, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Erylon, you are absolutely right. I did exactly that. But now, > > I just made a comlete shutdown/restart, logged directly into > > gnome and connected the camera. As in KDE it immidiately > > started to fill up my screen with an infinete amount of > > senseless icons ( see attached screenshot - there are only 2 > > photos in the camera ) and top shows CPU running at 80% (a > > small improvement, nevertheless). The process consuming the > > cycles seems to be related to USB. So, the mystery isn't 100% > > KDE-related. > > When they say that the bug is fixed, does that mean that the bug > report is closed? This info really should be attached to the > report. I'm concerned that the symptoms we are seeing are not > entirely consistent with what's reported in but 12023. > > Anne Well Anne, I too suspect there is something underneith this bug, but let us wait and see how things behave after the kdebase-upgrade. Have a nice week-end, Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Friday 29 Oct 2004 08:53, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Erylon, you are absolutely right. I did exactly that. But now, I > just made a comlete shutdown/restart, logged directly into gnome > and connected the camera. As in KDE it immidiately started to fill > up my screen with an infinete amount of senseless icons ( see > attached screenshot - there are only 2 photos in the camera ) and > top shows CPU running at 80% (a small improvement, nevertheless). > The process consuming the cycles seems to be related to USB. So, > the mystery isn't 100% KDE-related. > When they say that the bug is fixed, does that mean that the bug report is closed? This info really should be attached to the report. I'm concerned that the symptoms we are seeing are not entirely consistent with what's reported in but 12023. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Friday 29 Oct 2004 00:52, Erylon Hines wrote: > > Ann, I didn't see Kaj say that he actually booted up to the log-in screen > and chose to go to Gnome or KDE directly from the drop-down list (I could > have missed it). I think that he may have logged out of kde and logged > back into the Xfce desktop. In that case, it could be a KDE bug, because > the process was still running. Did you try rebooting and choosing Gnome, > to see if the problem goes away? > Yes, Kaj has confirmed that he did not boot directly into Gnome. I didn't try Gnome myself, but I did try IceWM and there was no problem there. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: | On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:25, Roy Babin wrote: | > Can we please get off of this. It has been going on for days now. | | It may not be important to you, but it is to us. | | Anne And me, because I have an Olympus 750UZ, and I may be upgrading to 10.x one of these days, so I'm following this thread closely. Ann, I didn't see Kaj say that he actually booted up to the log-in screen and chose to go to Gnome or KDE directly from the drop-down list (I could have missed it). I think that he may have logged out of kde and logged back into the Xfce desktop. In that case, it could be a KDE bug, because the process was still running. Did you try rebooting and choosing Gnome, to see if the problem goes away? e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
Praedor has raised a similar thread in Expert, and Tim Sawchuck pointed to this cooker thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=109851321432683&w=2 This bit may clear up the Gnome anomaly: This is a known bug. You can kill the kded and then restart it with kdeinit kded which will give access to the services menu but alas there's not much you can do there. This bug was introduced by a cooker update I am hoping that it is an "install thing" and when a fresh install is done 10.1 final it will be sorted out. If you temporarily use Gnome there is no problem. Be aware that if you start kde and then go into Gnome the kded process will have already have been started. You must go directly to Gnome from the dm. The bug, if it is the same one as we have seen, has been fixed, and is coming. It will be in updates as soon as 10.1 OE is out. The only thing is, having read the thread, I'm still not absolutely sure that it's the same bug. We'll have to see whether this 'fix' fixes it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:25, Roy Babin wrote: > Can we please get off of this. It has been going on for days now. It may not be important to you, but it is to us. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 28 October 2004 19:57, Anne Wilson wrote: I haven't tried Gnome. I gather that Kaj found the same problem there. If that had not been so I would have felt that it was definitely kde-related. Another thing that puzzles me, is that the first time, when I accessed as root, I could see all the files in konqueror. I did not manage that again. Is there a significance in that on that occasion I accessed as root first - before trying to access as user? I don't know whether any of this helps Anne This looks like the KDE bug that Kaj was pointed to...the gnome part could be puzzling except: if calling a KDE app. like konq or kedit. I had gathered he had the same experiences on runlevel 3 but I'm not sure anymore. Here's the bug again: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Can we please get off of this. It has been going on for days now. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:05, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > This looks like the KDE bug that Kaj was pointed to...the gnome part could > be puzzling except: if calling a KDE app. like konq or kedit. > > I had gathered he had the same experiences on runlevel 3 but I'm not sure > anymore. > > Here's the bug again: > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023 It could be - but my gut reaction is that it's not. Now we have to try to find that kdebase update that is supposed to cure it. I've been so busy this week that I haven't had time to set up any new sources, and BitTorrent says that I need another 100 hours to download the powerpack :-( - this after I have tried to strangle the upload to 10. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 19:57, Anne Wilson wrote: > I haven't tried Gnome. I gather that Kaj found the same problem there. If > that had not been so I would have felt that it was definitely kde-related. > > Another thing that puzzles me, is that the first time, when I accessed as > root, I could see all the files in konqueror. I did not manage that again. > Is there a significance in that on that occasion I accessed as root first > - before trying to access as user? > > I don't know whether any of this helps > > Anne This looks like the KDE bug that Kaj was pointed to...the gnome part could be puzzling except: if calling a KDE app. like konq or kedit. I had gathered he had the same experiences on runlevel 3 but I'm not sure anymore. Here's the bug again: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023 -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 10:09, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:38, Anne Wilson wrote: > > I haven't got around to changing to udev yet, so it may not be a factor > > at all. I have 2.6.1-12 with supermount, and I'm still seeing the > > problem. > > When kaj ran "tail -f /var/log/messages" whilst plugging in the camera > there were some strange entries on sda's size and sort. > What does your's say? > Nothing unexpected at all. More on that below - I've run a bunch of tests as follows: Running kernel 2.6.8.1-10 - attempted to access camera through kdesu konqueror - can see all files - but top shows kdeinit at 99.5% Attempts to kill kdeinit not successful - I can never get the syntax right killall -9 kdeinit takes me back to login screen - login - kdeinit still 98.9% Reboot Top - kdeinit not in first 20+ lines add camera - still not there Open konqueror - kdeinit reaches 23%, then disappears from list. Cannot browse camera in konqueror Cannot ls /mnt/removable Start MCC - check options, then mount with MCC - kdeinit 98.6% Cannot launch konqueror kdeinit drops back to 55% kdesu konqueror launches - kdeinit 98.9% - but can't browse camera Close konqueror - kdeinit 98.6% cannot ls /mnt/removable kdeinit 95.9% shooting up to 99.2% - konsole is the only kde app open at that time. tail /var/log/messages - nothing at all unexpected. No problems apparent. Reboot Kernel 2.6.8.1-12 Booted as linux 3 Can list files on camera Top - kdeinit not on screen Reboot Switch on camera during kde launch - forgot to wait - kdeinit 99.2% without attempting to browse. Reboot Boot to IceWM session Can ls all files Can copy a file and paste it to /home/david I haven't tried Gnome. I gather that Kaj found the same problem there. If that had not been so I would have felt that it was definitely kde-related. Another thing that puzzles me, is that the first time, when I accessed as root, I could see all the files in konqueror. I did not manage that again. Is there a significance in that on that occasion I accessed as root first - before trying to access as user? I don't know whether any of this helps Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 20:51, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > IIRC the only anomaly you reported Anne was cpufreq errors in > boot logs. I meant to respond, sorry. I had the same. Cpufreq > is used for laptops to control power usage and heat thru > manipulating processor speed. On a desktop, just 'urpme cpufreq' > I've found a bunch of reports while scouring logs. Many may be totally unimportant, but I'll post them later. One thing at a time ;-) > As to the "Digital camera kills MDK 10.1" deal, I don't have a > USB camera (mine's serial), but I suspect the problem might be > solved by tryin a different kernel. I believe Stew said much the > same. > > I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up > problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive into > a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the system > went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a hunch the > 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho I've run a bunch of tests against 2.6.8.1-10 - it's no better than -12. I'll pick up another message in this thread as the best place to go through all I've done. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On October 28, 2004 02:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: ... > That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good folks at > Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : "if it ain't broke, don't > fix it". In my experience, every new release fixes some bugs, > introduces new "features" , but nevertheless breakes things that > worked well before > > Cheers > > Kaj Haulrich. Because the rule for Linux is "if it ain't broke, you're not trying hard enough" :^) -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 16:36, Tom Brinkman wrote: > Had one for years ;) BTW, did you get the (free to members) > book the Free Software Foundation sent out recently, "Free > Culture"? Interesting reading an I'm only about 10% into the > book. I have and have gotten as far as you. Just need one nice quiet evening to get into it again.those are sparse:) > > For those that don't know what we're talking about, visit > http://www.gnu.org/ and please consider becoming a Associate > Member. Your MandrakeLinux is Linux (the kernel), but the rest of > it (99%) is GNU software. They need your support just as much as > the Mandrake Club does. Heheh;) I've been in evangelist mode a few times too..reading the book makes one realize how important these issues realy are. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 05:15 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > ..there's even smaller which > fit on a credit card CD (<50Mb) like the FreeSoftwareFoundation > membership cardhint, hint, nudge, nudge! ;) Had one for years ;) BTW, did you get the (free to members) book the Free Software Foundation sent out recently, "Free Culture"? Interesting reading an I'm only about 10% into the book. For those that don't know what we're talking about, visit http://www.gnu.org/ and please consider becoming a Associate Member. Your MandrakeLinux is Linux (the kernel), but the rest of it (99%) is GNU software. They need your support just as much as the Mandrake Club does. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 02:42 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing > > around in /boot and lilo ! > > > > Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident > > errors. But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel. > > So no go here. Next, I'll try to install the 2.4 kernel. > > Hopefully that'll change things to the better. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Are you running devfs or udev? > It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will > then be disabled. You can check anytime... tom # service udev status udev is running [ OK ] you can check for devfsd with 'service devfsd status' which will return a "usage:" warning. This means devfs is not being used. To be on the safe side, you can put 'devfs=nomount' in your bootloader (lilo's append line). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 15:09, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > The kde-mandrake team replied that it is a dupe of another, well > known and fixed bug in kdebase. I wonder if it is true, because it > affects Gnome as well - on my system, that is. > > The bug is here : > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023 Took a look at that and it certainly looks partially the same. If you indeed booted into level 3 and had the same problem it would be surprising indeed if KDE was the culprit, though. Running "top" could've enlightened that. So what happened? Boot into init 3 and check again.that way you can file a bug report (if it is a bug) that won't get KDE related. To install-testrun the base package do "urpmi --test kde-base.123mdk.rpm" (or whatever the packages name is) and see if it gives dependancy-hell or not:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 15:02, Stew Benedict wrote: > > Still sounds to me like hotplug and friends. Before I told you > how to disable hotplug with chkconfig, but I didn't mention > stopping the service (service hotplug stop). > > It's quite rare in my experience that the kernel itself would be > thrashing the machine like that. If it is, you'd see dmesg > flooded with messages, but more often you'd see an oops or panic. > > I'd also doubt udev as a major factor. The normal "problem" with > udev is the device not showing up at all in /dev. > > I tried several external devices yesterday, as a quick test. My > Canon camera, which the kernel saw but didn't recognize as a > storage device, a usb CF reader, a USB SD reader, and an external > USB hard-drive. In none of the cases, did the kernel give any > indication it was aware of the actual media type, aside from the > identifier string of the reader device, that's pretty much the > reader's job the deal with the media. Well Stew, stopping hotplug doesn't make any difference. But maybe the solution is closing in, please see my last post. Thanks Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:12, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 09:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good > > folks at Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : "if it ain't > > broke, don't fix it". In my experience, every new release > > fixes some bugs, introduces new "features" , but nevertheless > > breakes things that worked well before > > Kaj, this has to be reported as a bug. If they aren't told they > can't do anything about it. As far as I can see, since no-one > has reported otherwise, other cameras must be mounting correctly, > so maybe the xD format is implicated. As you have done most > investigation of this, will you start the report off (anthill, I > presume) then point me at it and I'll back you up. > > Anne Anne, I have reported the bug (12205), and you know what : The kde-mandrake team replied that it is a dupe of another, well known and fixed bug in kdebase. I wonder if it is true, because it affects Gnome as well - on my system, that is. The bug is here : http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023 Now I wonder if we'll have to wait until 10.2 to get it fixed. I suppose installing the new kdebase from cooker will raise havoc on a 10.1 system. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > well, I don't have devfs. According to some bugzilla reports, quite > the opposite is needed. Warly posted something in his notes on > 10.1, saying "disable devfs, enable udev". Confusing. > > > > BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera? > > Nope. Keeps running at 99% . > > And Anne, thanks for your support, I intend to report the bug in > bugzilla later today, but I have to pin the problem down a little > further in order to avoid too much verbosity. > > And, for the fun of it, I found another solution that doesn't burn > my CPU : > > Boot into Knoppix, where the camera shows nicely as another > harddisk, ftp the photos to my website and - being back in > Mandrake, ftp them home again. Where there is a will, there is a > way... > Still sounds to me like hotplug and friends. Before I told you how to disable hotplug with chkconfig, but I didn't mention stopping the service (service hotplug stop). It's quite rare in my experience that the kernel itself would be thrashing the machine like that. If it is, you'd see dmesg flooded with messages, but more often you'd see an oops or panic. I'd also doubt udev as a major factor. The normal "problem" with udev is the device not showing up at all in /dev. I tried several external devices yesterday, as a quick test. My Canon camera, which the kernel saw but didn't recognize as a storage device, a usb CF reader, a USB SD reader, and an external USB hard-drive. In none of the cases, did the kernel give any indication it was aware of the actual media type, aside from the identifier string of the reader device, that's pretty much the reader's job the deal with the media. -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 12:15, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel > > > > 3, mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. > > > > Then reboot to cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I > > > > think. > > > > > > doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you can > > > telinit 3 or 5 again. I.e. you shouldn't need to reboot. > > > > Telinit 3 works OK, but the CPU is running like mad, > > nevertheless. Going back into runlevel 5 doesn't stop it. Only > > a reboot. > > I meant going into "single-user mode/failsafe" alternatively you > could boot into falisafe and try connecting the device in there. > > > > Installing 2.4 was bound to give you problems, especially in > > > respect to certain modules 2.6 has. > > > > It certainly did. > > > > > Going into mcc and disabling udev as well as enabling devfs > > > "at boot" in the department is what might > > > resolv something. > > > > well, I don't have devfs. According to some bugzilla reports, > > quite the opposite is needed. Warly posted something in his > > notes on 10.1, saying "disable devfs, enable udev". > > Confusing. > > Yep, but it's not easy to pinpoint what's happeninghence my > propositions > > > > BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera? > > > > Nope. Keeps running at 99% . > > In telinit 1 too? > BTW, what does "top" say as to what's hogging the cpu? > Try killing the culprit. > > > Boot into Knoppix, where the camera shows nicely as another > > harddisk, ftp the photos to my website and - being back in > > Mandrake, ftp them home again. Where there is a will, there is > > a way... > > I always boot into slax or slackware.it's a lot faster at > boot time;) Always carry a miniCD with Slax on it with > me..there's even smaller which fit on a credit card CD > (<50Mb) like the FreeSoftwareFoundation membership cardhint, > hint, nudge, nudge! ;) > > Alas those creditcardCD's always break in my wallet on the long > run:( Booting into "failsafe" does nothing. The system can't "see" it. Trying a manual mount as sda0, sda1 etc.. fails, as there is no entry in fstab. And to Anne : I have committed a report to bugzilla (no. 12205), as there is no entry for 10.1 in Anthill.. Plenty of other bugs concerning cameras, but no mention of the "runaway" process. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, > > > mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then > > > reboot to cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I think. > > > > doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you can > > telinit 3 or 5 again. I.e. you shouldn't need to reboot. > > Telinit 3 works OK, but the CPU is running like mad, nevertheless. > Going back into runlevel 5 doesn't stop it. Only a reboot. I meant going into "single-user mode/failsafe" alternatively you could boot into falisafe and try connecting the device in there. > > > Installing 2.4 was bound to give you problems, especially in > > respect to certain modules 2.6 has. > > It certainly did. > > > Going into mcc and disabling udev as well as enabling devfs "at > > boot" in the department is what might resolv > > something. > > well, I don't have devfs. According to some bugzilla reports, quite > the opposite is needed. Warly posted something in his notes on > 10.1, saying "disable devfs, enable udev". Confusing. Yep, but it's not easy to pinpoint what's happeninghence my propositions > > BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera? > > Nope. Keeps running at 99% . In telinit 1 too? BTW, what does "top" say as to what's hogging the cpu? Try killing the culprit. > Boot into Knoppix, where the camera shows nicely as another > harddisk, ftp the photos to my website and - being back in > Mandrake, ftp them home again. Where there is a will, there is a > way... I always boot into slax or slackware.it's a lot faster at boot time;) Always carry a miniCD with Slax on it with me..there's even smaller which fit on a credit card CD (<50Mb) like the FreeSoftwareFoundation membership cardhint, hint, nudge, nudge! ;) Alas those creditcardCD's always break in my wallet on the long run:( -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, > > mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then > > reboot to cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I think. > > doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you can > telinit 3 or 5 again. I.e. you shouldn't need to reboot. > Telinit 3 works OK, but the CPU is running like mad, nevertheless. Going back into runlevel 5 doesn't stop it. Only a reboot. > Installing 2.4 was bound to give you problems, especially in > respect to certain modules 2.6 has. It certainly did. > > Going into mcc and disabling udev as well as enabling devfs "at > boot" in the department is what might resolv > something. well, I don't have devfs. According to some bugzilla reports, quite the opposite is needed. Warly posted something in his notes on 10.1, saying "disable devfs, enable udev". Confusing. > > BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera? Nope. Keeps running at 99% . And Anne, thanks for your support, I intend to report the bug in bugzilla later today, but I have to pin the problem down a little further in order to avoid too much verbosity. And, for the fun of it, I found another solution that doesn't burn my CPU : Boot into Knoppix, where the camera shows nicely as another harddisk, ftp the photos to my website and - being back in Mandrake, ftp them home again. Where there is a will, there is a way... Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 10:09, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > From what I've seen until now, I'd eliminate "supermount" as the culprit. > I take this a new 10.1 install you're talking about as 10.0 used devfs and > keeps it when you upgrade > Yes, this was a clean 10.1 install. I reported the supermount, because I was half-asleep when I read, and thought that magic-whatever that replaces it was being suspected. I think you were actually talking devfs and udev, in which case I'm running udev, but Kaj has ruled that one out, so ignore my ramblings ;-) > I haven't got my camera here at this box, but for comparison here's what I > get when attaching my USB stick (which works exactly the same as my > camera): I did check out harddrake, while correctly recognised the camera. I didn't check 'messages', but I will do that later today. I can run the camera on this box first to pick up any log entries that refer to it, then try it on the 10.1 box and compare output. I'll get back to you. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, mount > the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then reboot to > cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I think. doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you can telinit 3 or 5 again. I.e. you shouldn't need to reboot. Installing 2.4 was bound to give you problems, especially in respect to certain modules 2.6 has. Going into mcc and disabling udev as well as enabling devfs "at boot" in the department is what might resolv something. BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera? -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 09:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good folks at > Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : "if it ain't broke, don't > fix it". In my experience, every new release fixes some bugs, > introduces new "features" , but nevertheless breakes things that > worked well before > Kaj, this has to be reported as a bug. If they aren't told they can't do anything about it. As far as I can see, since no-one has reported otherwise, other cameras must be mounting correctly, so maybe the xD format is implicated. As you have done most investigation of this, will you start the report off (anthill, I presume) then point me at it and I'll back you up. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:38, Anne Wilson wrote: > I haven't got around to changing to udev yet, so it may not be a factor at > all. I have 2.6.1-12 with supermount, and I'm still seeing the problem. When kaj ran "tail -f /var/log/messages" whilst plugging in the camera there were some strange entries on sda's size and sort. What does your's say? >From what I've seen until now, I'd eliminate "supermount" as the culprit. I take this a new 10.1 install you're talking about as 10.0 used devfs and keeps it when you upgrade I haven't got my camera here at this box, but for comparison here's what I get when attaching my USB stick (which works exactly the same as my camera): Oct 28 10:52:54 triade1 su(pam_unix)[7057]: session opened for user root by triade(uid=501) Oct 28 10:53:04 triade1 kernel: usb 2-2.1: new full speed USB device using address 3 Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: USB Flash Disk Rev: 2.00 Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 scsi.agent[7145]: disk at /devices/pci:00/:00:1f.4/usb2/2-2/2-2.1/2-2.1:1.0/host0/0:0:0:0 Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda: Unit Not Ready, sense: Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Current : sense key Unit Attention Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Additional sense: Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed. Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda : status=1, message=00, host=0, driver=08 Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Current sd: sense key Unit Attention Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Additional sense: Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through *** This has the effect of it not getting mounted or being able to mount it, I'll spare you the details:) pulling the stick and reinserting it again works fine with the following lines leading to success: Oct 28 10:57:50 triade1 kernel: usb 2-2.1: new full speed USB device using address 6 Oct 28 10:57:51 triade1 kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Oct 28 10:57:51 triade1 kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: USB Flash Disk Rev: 2.00 Oct 28 10:57:51 triade1 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: SCSI device sda: 255488 512-byte hdwr sectors (131 MB) Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 scsi.agent[7509]: disk at /devices/pci:00/:00:1f.4/usb2/2-2/2-2.1/2-2.1:1.0/host1/1:0:0:0 Oct 28 10:57:53 triade1 perl: drakupdate_fstab called with --auto --add /dev/sda1 * Frankly I always run tail -f /var/log/messages when expecting trouble with USB that way I know where to find the thing...plugging into another port might call it /dev/sb1 or whatever. I've got quite a few devices on USB like an external DVD/CD-burner, gps reciever, palm device, USB stick, camera, wireless card, mouse, printer and keyboard. All work but some do sometimes need re-initiation like the usb-stick above. Be sure to disable harddrake at boot time if these devices aren't permanently connected. If you don't change your system around a lot you don't need it anyway...just a waste of time at boot. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 09:42, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing > > around in /boot and lilo ! > > > > Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident > > errors. But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel. > > So no go here. Next, I'll try to install the 2.4 kernel. > > Hopefully that'll change things to the better. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Are you running devfs or udev? > It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will > then be disabled. I tried the 2.4 kernel, which denied me access to the net (eth0 [failed]) and my mouse. Gave it up. So, now I'm back in 2.6.8.1-12mdk. Disabling udev doesn't improve the matter, and in lilo I have "devfs=nomount". However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then reboot to cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I think. I've been contemplating switching to another distro, but I really love Mandrake in spite of this, and I strongly suspect that whatever distro I choose I will meet another collection of time-consuming issues to get it working. So I'll stay with Mandrake and live with it, as is. That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good folks at Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". In my experience, every new release fixes some bugs, introduces new "features" , but nevertheless breakes things that worked well before Cheers Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 08:42, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > Are you running devfs or udev? > It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will then be > disabled. Mine is udev Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 22:50, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > Methinks there's something ugly going on between "hotplug" and "udev" on > your system...so you might consider disabling both and using "devfs" as a > service at boot instead. > I'm still using 2.6.1-10 (with udev) and thus can't stat your bugit's > definitely worth investigating though. I haven't got around to changing to udev yet, so it may not be a factor at all. I have 2.6.1-12 with supermount, and I'm still seeing the problem. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing around > in /boot and lilo ! > > Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident errors. > But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel. So no go > here. Next, I'll try to install the 2.4 kernel. Hopefully that'll > change things to the better. > > Kaj Haulrich. Are you running devfs or udev? It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will then be disabled. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:06, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Wish me luck. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > I'll keep my fingers crossed for you...as it sounds like a mess > on your box right nowsweaty palms et all, heh?:) > > Don't uninstall/re-install too quickly though. Sounds sort of > windosy to me to be a real help.just install the kernels and > let them get added to lilo. > > Check that they're pointing to the right kernels/initrd's > though! I somehow I allways have to get my hands dirty there. > Got mdk 10.1, slackware10.0 and Suse running comfortably on this > box though, booting through lilo. Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing around in /boot and lilo ! Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident errors. But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel. So no go here. Next, I'll try to install the 2.4 kernel. Hopefully that'll change things to the better. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Wish me luck. > > Kaj Haulrich. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you...as it sounds like a mess on your box right nowsweaty palms et all, heh?:) Don't uninstall/re-install too quickly though. Sounds sort of windosy to me to be a real help.just install the kernels and let them get added to lilo. Check that they're pointing to the right kernels/initrd's though! I somehow I allways have to get my hands dirty there. Got mdk 10.1, slackware10.0 and Suse running comfortably on this box though, booting through lilo. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:50, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Therefore, I wanted to follow Tom's advice and install the > > 2.6.8.1-10 kernel. Can't find it anywhere, though. Even > > rpmfind.net doesn't come up with it. > > > > Maybe I should try the 2.4 kernel for 10.1 ? > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > You could try the 2.4 kernel but that'll have a few other > quircks:( Like Anne said, the 2.6.1-10 kernel should be on the > dload discs and if you haven't got it I'll be more than happy to > put it up for dload for youjust say the word:) > > Methinks there's something ugly going on between "hotplug" and > "udev" on your system...so you might consider disabling both and > using "devfs" as a service at boot instead. > I'm still using 2.6.1-10 (with udev) and thus can't stat your > bugit's definitely worth investigating though. Thanks H.J. - I have the -10 kernel now. I'm going to install it right away, but if it corrupts my filesystem again it'll be a while until I can get back and try your suggestions. Wish me luck. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:41, Tom Brinkman wrote: > -10mdk is the kernel that 10.1 CE was released with. So if > you've got 10.1CE CD's you've got it. I went lookin for -10 on > the mirrors, specifically 'kernel-source' but didn't find it. In > my situation I'm still tryin to figure out why it makes such a > difference with my SATA/IDE mix. > > Sorry, like I said, it's a hunch This raises the question: What's the diff between 2.6.8.1-10 and 2.6.8-12? Anybody looked into that yet? 10 to 12 can only be a difference in applied patches i.e. Mandrake specific. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Therefore, I wanted to follow Tom's advice and install the > 2.6.8.1-10 kernel. Can't find it anywhere, though. Even > rpmfind.net doesn't come up with it. > > Maybe I should try the 2.4 kernel for 10.1 ? > > Kaj Haulrich. You could try the 2.4 kernel but that'll have a few other quircks:( Like Anne said, the 2.6.1-10 kernel should be on the dload discs and if you haven't got it I'll be more than happy to put it up for dload for youjust say the word:) Methinks there's something ugly going on between "hotplug" and "udev" on your system...so you might consider disabling both and using "devfs" as a service at boot instead. I'm still using 2.6.1-10 (with udev) and thus can't stat your bugit's definitely worth investigating though. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:41, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Wednesday 27 October 2004 03:59 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up > > > problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive > > > into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the > > > system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a > > > hunch the 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho > > > > > > > > Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel > > 2.6.8.1-10 ? > > -10mdk is the kernel that 10.1 CE was released with. So if > you've got 10.1CE CD's you've got it. I went lookin for -10 on > the mirrors, specifically 'kernel-source' but didn't find it. In > my situation I'm still tryin to figure out why it makes such a > difference with my SATA/IDE mix. > >Sorry, like I said, it's a hunch Thanks Anne and Tom. What a fool I am, not thinking of the obvious. I guess I'm too eager to delete all my CD sources and rely only on the mirrors. Another lesson learned. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 03:59 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up > > problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive > > into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the > > system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a > > hunch the 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho > > > > Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel > 2.6.8.1-10 ? -10mdk is the kernel that 10.1 CE was released with. So if you've got 10.1CE CD's you've got it. I went lookin for -10 on the mirrors, specifically 'kernel-source' but didn't find it. In my situation I'm still tryin to figure out why it makes such a difference with my SATA/IDE mix. Sorry, like I said, it's a hunch -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:20, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Wednesday 27 October 2004 22:59, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel > > 2.6.8.1-10 ? > > > > I tried kernel 2.6.3, but it completely borked my ReiserFS. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > http://ftp.surfnet.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrakelinux/devel/ >10.1/i586/media/main/ kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm H.J. , that's exactly the problem. After visiting bugzilla I found several reports concerning the 2.6.8.1-12 kernel. Mounting mass storage devices (like certain cameras) chrashes the system and corrupts ReiserFS. Therefore, I wanted to follow Tom's advice and install the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel. Can't find it anywhere, though. Even rpmfind.net doesn't come up with it. Maybe I should try the 2.4 kernel for 10.1 ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 21:59, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel > 2.6.8.1-10 ? > That was on the original download 10.1CE disk Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 22:59, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel > 2.6.8.1-10 ? > > I tried kernel 2.6.3, but it completely borked my ReiserFS. > > Kaj Haulrich. http://ftp.surfnet.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/main/ kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 21:51, Tom Brinkman wrote: > I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up > problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive into > a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the system > went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a hunch the > 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel 2.6.8.1-10 ? I tried kernel 2.6.3, but it completely borked my ReiserFS. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 02:00 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 19:16, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: > > Yes, and upgrade _should_ give you exactly the same end > > result as a clean install. There should be no difference > > other than the upgrade being faster (due to not having to > > reinstall packages that are already up to date). > > > > But history has shown repeatedly, at least for Mandrake, that > > this is _not_ true. Perhaps Stephen Kuhn, Hoyt Bailey, or > > others will pitch in here with their personal experiences > > (based upon which I have never even attempted a version > > upgrade, always a clean install). > > > > I also suspect the first response back from any bug report > > will be "Have you tried a clean install of 10.1 Official?" > > You're probably right, but after 2 installs of it I just > can't bring myself to start yet again - at least not just at > this moment. > > Anne IIRC the only anomaly you reported Anne was cpufreq errors in boot logs. I meant to respond, sorry. I had the same. Cpufreq is used for laptops to control power usage and heat thru manipulating processor speed. On a desktop, just 'urpme cpufreq' As to the "Digital camera kills MDK 10.1" deal, I don't have a USB camera (mine's serial), but I suspect the problem might be solved by tryin a different kernel. I believe Stew said much the same. I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a hunch the 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 19:16, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: > Yes, and upgrade _should_ give you exactly the same end result as a clean > install. There should be no difference other than the upgrade being faster > (due to not having to reinstall packages that are already up to date). > > But history has shown repeatedly, at least for Mandrake, that this is _not_ > true. Perhaps Stephen Kuhn, Hoyt Bailey, or others will pitch in here with > their personal experiences (based upon which I have never even attempted a > version upgrade, always a clean install). > > I also suspect the first response back from any bug report will be "Have > you tried a clean install of 10.1 Official?" You're probably right, but after 2 installs of it I just can't bring myself to start yet again - at least not just at this moment. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On October 27, 2004 11:32, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:52, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: > > Just saw this on Linux Today: Mandrakeliux 10.1 Official Released > > > > http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004102701526NWMDSW > > > > Might be worth downloading and doing a clean install (you've probably > > seen the oft-repeated advice that version upgrades are not recommended). > > If the problem is still there, you can report a bug at: > > > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ > > This was a clean install of 10.1CE, and upgraded to cooker last Thursday, > so that really should be exactly what you are getting with 10.1OE. I did > re-use /home, which may or may not have a bearing on some doubtful areas, > but I also have a raft of error messages that I've picked up from the logs > - another story, and I'll talk about that later - so there are a lot of > questions. > > Anne Yes, and upgrade _should_ give you exactly the same end result as a clean install. There should be no difference other than the upgrade being faster (due to not having to reinstall packages that are already up to date). But history has shown repeatedly, at least for Mandrake, that this is _not_ true. Perhaps Stephen Kuhn, Hoyt Bailey, or others will pitch in here with their personal experiences (based upon which I have never even attempted a version upgrade, always a clean install). I also suspect the first response back from any bug report will be "Have you tried a clean install of 10.1 Official?" -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 19:29, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Although I feel sorry for you, Anne (being unable to use your > > camera) I'm somehow conforted that I'm not alone ! > > ;-) It's not a big problem - yet! I don't need the camera on > that box, but it certainly tells me not to install on box2 as I > had intended, until this is sorted out. My main reason for > reporting this was to support you, tell you that you are not > alone. > > > If I remember correctly, the Fuji uses the xD card, exactly as > > the Olympus. > > It does. > > > Can you use your scanner (or any USB device) after unplugging > > the camera ? > > To be truthful, I didn't try. With the cpu at 99.9% I couldn't > even get Konsole as far as the prompt, so I gave up and rebooted. > > > What went wrong with 10.1 ??? > > Indeed! There were some problems with usb in 10.0, I understand, > although I was not affected. This seems very much worse. Have > you posted a bug report yet? If so, I should add to it rather > than starting a new one. No, I haven't reported the bugger - yet. Before giving up, I intend to dig a little deeper. MDK 10.0 worked OK, so something changed in 10.1. - And, finally, I can retrieve my photos from the command line, but only in one boot-session, because the system can't do anything else after plugging the camera in. Memory leak ? Ron kindly advised how to report a bug, but first I'll have a look at already reported ones. Thanks for all your help. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:52, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: > > Just saw this on Linux Today: Mandrakeliux 10.1 Official Released > > http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004102701526NWMDSW > > Might be worth downloading and doing a clean install (you've probably seen > the oft-repeated advice that version upgrades are not recommended). If the > problem is still there, you can report a bug at: > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ This was a clean install of 10.1CE, and upgraded to cooker last Thursday, so that really should be exactly what you are getting with 10.1OE. I did re-use /home, which may or may not have a bearing on some doubtful areas, but I also have a raft of error messages that I've picked up from the logs - another story, and I'll talk about that later - so there are a lot of questions. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Although I feel sorry for you, Anne (being unable to use your > camera) I'm somehow conforted that I'm not alone ! > ;-) It's not a big problem - yet! I don't need the camera on that box, but it certainly tells me not to install on box2 as I had intended, until this is sorted out. My main reason for reporting this was to support you, tell you that you are not alone. > If I remember correctly, the Fuji uses the xD card, exactly as the > Olympus. > It does. > Can you use your scanner (or any USB device) after unplugging the > camera ? > To be truthful, I didn't try. With the cpu at 99.9% I couldn't even get Konsole as far as the prompt, so I gave up and rebooted. > What went wrong with 10.1 ??? > Indeed! There were some problems with usb in 10.0, I understand, although I was not affected. This seems very much worse. Have you posted a bug report yet? If so, I should add to it rather than starting a new one. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On October 27, 2004 10:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote: ... > > The box in question has 10.1OE upgraded late last week from > > cooker, running 2.6.8-12 kernel (IIRC). Is there anything else > > you would like me to check for correlation? ... > What went wrong with 10.1 ??? > > Kaj Haulrich. Just saw this on Linux Today: Mandrakeliux 10.1 Official Released http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004102701526NWMDSW Might be worth downloading and doing a clean install (you've probably seen the oft-repeated advice that version upgrades are not recommended). If the problem is still there, you can report a bug at: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 09:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Wednesday 27 October 2004 17:39, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 13:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot > > > again :-/ > > > > After a few days' break I came back to this long thread. Out of > > curiosity I plugged my FujiFilm FinePix S304 into the one box > > that I have upgraded to 10.1. I had exactly the same experience > > - top showed cpu usage varying between 98% and 99.9%, and the > > only way out appeared to be a reboot - it certainly didn't > > respond to kill. > > > > The box in question has 10.1OE upgraded late last week from > > cooker, running 2.6.8-12 kernel (IIRC). Is there anything else > > you would like me to check for correlation? > > > > Anne > > Although I feel sorry for you, Anne (being unable to use your > camera) I'm somehow conforted that I'm not alone ! > > If I remember correctly, the Fuji uses the xD card, exactly as the > Olympus. that would indicate that the problem lies with how MdK handles xD as opposed to SD cards > > Can you use your scanner (or any USB device) after unplugging the > camera ? > > What went wrong with 10.1 ??? > > Kaj Haulrich. -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 17:39, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 13:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot > > again :-/ > > After a few days' break I came back to this long thread. Out of > curiosity I plugged my FujiFilm FinePix S304 into the one box > that I have upgraded to 10.1. I had exactly the same experience > - top showed cpu usage varying between 98% and 99.9%, and the > only way out appeared to be a reboot - it certainly didn't > respond to kill. > > The box in question has 10.1OE upgraded late last week from > cooker, running 2.6.8-12 kernel (IIRC). Is there anything else > you would like me to check for correlation? > > Anne Although I feel sorry for you, Anne (being unable to use your camera) I'm somehow conforted that I'm not alone ! If I remember correctly, the Fuji uses the xD card, exactly as the Olympus. Can you use your scanner (or any USB device) after unplugging the camera ? What went wrong with 10.1 ??? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 13:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot > again :-/ > After a few days' break I came back to this long thread. Out of curiosity I plugged my FujiFilm FinePix S304 into the one box that I have upgraded to 10.1. I had exactly the same experience - top showed cpu usage varying between 98% and 99.9%, and the only way out appeared to be a reboot - it certainly didn't respond to kill. The box in question has 10.1OE upgraded late last week from cooker, running 2.6.8-12 kernel (IIRC). Is there anything else you would like me to check for correlation? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 14:29, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 October 2004 14:13, Stew Benedict wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> > > > > As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch,
> > > > > copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available
> > > > > rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have reached the point of considering a switch to some
> > > > > other distro, maybe Fedora or Debian.
> >
> > You might try disabling harddrake and hotplug, as part of your
> > testing. This would also help you tell whether it's the kernel
> > or other apps dragging the box down.
> >
> > chkconfig --del harddrake
> > (this will disable probing for new devices at boot)
> > chkconfig --del hotplug
> > (this will disable anything from running at the insertion of
> > the device)
> >
> > Now you may need to modprobe appropriate modules to make the
> > device visible in dmesg.
> > If the box still panics, then it's definitely the kernel.
> >
> > You can re-enable with 'chkconfig --add foo' (replace foo
> > appropriately)
>
> Thanks, Stew. I will try it ASAP. Things are a little slow
> here, what with the CPU constantly running at 99%. See you after
> next reboot.
>
OK - removed harddrake and hotplug : no improvement. Here is my
modprobe.conf :
# This file is autogenerated from /etc/modules.conf using
generate-modprobe.conf command
alias eth0 via-rhine
alias sound-slot-0 snd-cmipci
install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe uhci-hcd; /sbin/modprobe
ehci-hcd; /bin/true
remove snd-cmipci /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; /sbin/modprobe
--first-time -r --ignore-remove snd-cmipci
install snd-cmipci /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install
snd-cmipci && { /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; }
Which means next to nothing to me. But the USB interface seems to
work, and I can use my USB scanner perfectly. But no camera.
I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot
again :-/
Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 14:13, Stew Benedict wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, > > > > copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available > > > > rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. > > > > > > > > I have reached the point of considering a switch to some > > > > other distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. > > You might try disabling harddrake and hotplug, as part of your > testing. This would also help you tell whether it's the kernel or > other apps dragging the box down. > > chkconfig --del harddrake > (this will disable probing for new devices at boot) > chkconfig --del hotplug > (this will disable anything from running at the insertion of the > device) > > Now you may need to modprobe appropriate modules to make the > device visible in dmesg. > If the box still panics, then it's definitely the kernel. > > You can re-enable with 'chkconfig --add foo' (replace foo > appropriately) Thanks, Stew. I will try it ASAP. Things are a little slow here, what with the CPU constantly running at 99%. See you after next reboot. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > > > As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied > > > nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and > > > tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. > > > > > > I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other > > > distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. > > You might try disabling harddrake and hotplug, as part of your testing. This would also help you tell whether it's the kernel or other apps dragging the box down. chkconfig --del harddrake (this will disable probing for new devices at boot) chkconfig --del hotplug (this will disable anything from running at the insertion of the device) Now you may need to modprobe appropriate modules to make the device visible in dmesg. If the box still panics, then it's definitely the kernel. You can re-enable with 'chkconfig --add foo' (replace foo appropriately) -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 10:18, John Layt wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on > > (in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its > > USB device until hell freezes over or I reboot. > > > > As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied > > nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and > > tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. > > > > I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other > > distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. > > Well, at the risk of sounding obvious, I would venture there's > something up with the kernel v2.6.8 usb drivers and your camera, > and not anything to do with the desktop or apps. You could try > installing and booting an earlier kernel, like whatever the last > one for 10.0 was (2.6.3?), or worse yet try the 2.4 kernel that > comes with 10.1 . Just install them in addition to the current > 2.6.8 kernel, reboot into one of them, and see if they behave any > better. > > Or it could be udev, which is new to 10.1 for managing devices in > place of devfs. You could try reverting to using devfs under the > 2.6.8 kernel. Just go into the lilo config in mcc and modify the > boot options to remove the "devfs=nomount" part, reboot and watch > for the message that udev is disabled due to devfs being used, > then try your luck. In fact, try this first before you try any > other kernels, I have a hunch it might work, if it doesn't then > it definately is kernel usb driver problems. > > If none of this works, and even if you decide to change distros, > please file a bug report with Mandrake so they can fix it for > other people, including whatever distro you move to :-) > Thanks, John. Obviously you are on the right track here. Actually, my re-install of 10.1 CE was forced by a install of the older kernel from 10.0 (2.6.3 something) which completely borked my system beyond recovery : no succes from "rescue" with the install CDs, MandrakeMove or Knoppix. After the new install I notice that plugging my camera into the USB port changes my fstab (???), adding a line : /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera auto umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,exec,users 0 0 and that line disappears after a reboot. Strange. So now, I'll follow your advice strictly, gradually performing a lobectomy to the "append" line in lilo.conf. I am in no way opposed to mounting things manually. And I would really hate to switch distro because of this - after all - minor problem. BTW : how to report a bug to Mandrake ?? Again, thanks for your good input, John. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 10:18, John Layt wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on > > (in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its > > USB device until hell freezes over or I reboot. > > > > As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied > > nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and > > tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. > > > > I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other > > distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. > > Well, at the risk of sounding obvious, I would venture there's > something up with the kernel v2.6.8 usb drivers and your camera, > and not anything to do with the desktop or apps. You could try > installing and booting an earlier kernel, like whatever the last > one for 10.0 was (2.6.3?), or worse yet try the 2.4 kernel that > comes with 10.1 . Just install them in addition to the current > 2.6.8 kernel, reboot into one of them, and see if they behave any > better. > > Or it could be udev, which is new to 10.1 for managing devices in > place of devfs. You could try reverting to using devfs under the > 2.6.8 kernel. Just go into the lilo config in mcc and modify the > boot options to remove the "devfs=nomount" part, reboot and watch > for the message that udev is disabled due to devfs being used, > then try your luck. In fact, try this first before you try any > other kernels, I have a hunch it might work, if it doesn't then > it definately is kernel usb driver problems. > > If none of this works, and even if you decide to change distros, > please file a bug report with Mandrake so they can fix it for > other people, including whatever distro you move to :-) Thank you, John. You certainly are on the right track. Before I re-installed 10.1 CE I actually tried to install the 10.0 kernel (2.6.3 something). During that process I noticed something I never saw before : some messages about reconfiguring something (scrolled by too fast for reading). Hereafter I tried to reboot into that kernel with the devastating result that my filesystem (ReiserFS) borked completely. No "rescue" - attempt possible, be it from the install CDs, MandrakeMove or Knoppix. That forced the complete re-install of 10.1 CE. Now, I experimented a little bit further : I unplugged my scanner (which is connected to another USB port), re-connected the camera and you know what ? : up popped the good old harddisk icon on my screen with all my photos in it. Swell. At the same time I noticed that my fstab had changed, added a line like : /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera auto umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,exec,users 0 0 which seems strange to me, because I thought I was the only "root" here allowed to edit that file. After a new reboot, that line was removed from fstab again. So, obviously the USB/devfs/udev is behaving somewhat, unable to segregate between the scanner and the camera. I'll try to follow your advice strictly, performing a gradual lobectomy to lilo.conf's "append" line. I really would hate to switch distro because of this minor problem. BTW : How to file a bug report to Mandrake ??? Thanks again for your excellent ideas, John. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on > (in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its USB > device until hell freezes over or I reboot. > > As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied nothing > back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and tried anew. > Still staring at my runaway box. > > I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other > distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. Well, at the risk of sounding obvious, I would venture there's something up with the kernel v2.6.8 usb drivers and your camera, and not anything to do with the desktop or apps. You could try installing and booting an earlier kernel, like whatever the last one for 10.0 was (2.6.3?), or worse yet try the 2.4 kernel that comes with 10.1 . Just install them in addition to the current 2.6.8 kernel, reboot into one of them, and see if they behave any better. Or it could be udev, which is new to 10.1 for managing devices in place of devfs. You could try reverting to using devfs under the 2.6.8 kernel. Just go into the lilo config in mcc and modify the boot options to remove the "devfs=nomount" part, reboot and watch for the message that udev is disabled due to devfs being used, then try your luck. In fact, try this first before you try any other kernels, I have a hunch it might work, if it doesn't then it definately is kernel usb driver problems. If none of this works, and even if you decide to change distros, please file a bug report with Mandrake so they can fix it for other people, including whatever distro you move to :-) Cheers! John. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 00:26, Aron Smith wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:14 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:40, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual > > > > result : my system went completely bezerk. Here I the > > > > output from /var/log/messages : > > > > > > > > Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed > > > > USB device using address 2 > > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI subsystem > > > > initialized Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Initializing > > > > USB Mass Storage driver... > > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation > > > > for USB Mass Storage devices > > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Vendor: OLYMPUS > > > > Model: C740UZ Rev: 1.00 > > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Type: Direct-Access > > > > ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: usbcore: registered new > > > > driver usb-storage > > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: USB Mass Storage support > > > > registered. > > > > > > > > .And it goes on and on forever. > > > > > > > > Furthermore, lsmod mentiones nothing about a camera. > > > > > > There is no camera listed by lsmod, as your camera is seen as > > > a hard drive, nothing more. See up above about the USB Mass > > > Storage support. > > > > > > Mine is too. That is normal for many cameras on the market. > > > > > > What happens if you disable supermount with a "supermount > > > disable" command at root? > > > > > > There is also another tool like supermount that installs with > > > Gnome, but I forget what it is. I uninstalled it long ago. > > > > > > Rob > > > > Well, to answer H.J. and Rob : > > > > No, of course my camera doesn't hold 17 GB (!) - only 128 MB. > > > > It took me a while to post this, because I had to reboot 4 > > times in order to get rid of all those strange icons and calm > > down my CPU a little. > > > > I tried "supermount -i disable" with no succes, and I removed > > "magicdev" as well. No changes, still this camera (or is it the > > xD card in it ?) haunts my system. I even tried to connect it > > to my daughters Windows-box in order to check if the card was > > defunct, which it isn't (and the camera screen works O.K.). > > > > To me this seems like a USB malfunction. I tried to add the > > camera to /etc/fstab with different settings, like sda0 and > > sda1, umask=0, noauto, user etc.. etcStill no go. > > > > Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ??? > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Do you have FLPhoto and GTKam installed? Yes, both. And "Digikam". They are all unusable because just plugging the camera into the USB port immidiately puts my CPU in overdrive, which means that it is 99% busy cluttering my screen with infinite numbers of incomprehensible icons. Those icons seem to be related to xsane and are named something like /proc/bus/usb/004/xxx (where xxx goes ad infinitum). Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on (in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its USB device until hell freezes over or I reboot. As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box. I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other distro, maybe Fedora or Debian. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 02:50 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:14, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ??? > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Trust you to find a white raven:( > ... --- > Naah, just kidding;) > > There's something very wrong on the way this USB device initiates and the > kernel reacts. > Alas, I'm not knowledgeable enough to answer this off-hand nor do I have > the time to find out:( > I'd like to, though...love a challenge any day;) > Surely there's some alias function there for you but I don't know > it..dang > > I frankly haven't tried my own camera on 10.1 yet but I did connect an > acquaintance's (horrible word, heh) camerawhich IIRC didn't quite do as > it should've, i.e. required some CML mumbojumbo (that's what they called > it, anyway). > > Maybe somebody else'll chip in..!!! My Cannon 400 works like a champ under 10.1 no problems -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:14 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:40, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual > > > result : my system went completely bezerk. Here I the output > > > from /var/log/messages : > > > > > > Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB > > > device using address 2 > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Initializing USB Mass > > > Storage driver... > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for > > > USB Mass Storage devices > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Vendor: OLYMPUS Model: > > > C740UZ Rev: 1.00 > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Type: Direct-Access > > > ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: usbcore: registered new > > > driver usb-storage > > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: USB Mass Storage support > > > registered. > > > > > > .And it goes on and on forever. > > > > > > Furthermore, lsmod mentiones nothing about a camera. > > > > There is no camera listed by lsmod, as your camera is seen as a > > hard drive, nothing more. See up above about the USB Mass Storage > > support. > > > > Mine is too. That is normal for many cameras on the market. > > > > What happens if you disable supermount with a "supermount > > disable" command at root? > > > > There is also another tool like supermount that installs with > > Gnome, but I forget what it is. I uninstalled it long ago. > > > > Rob > > Well, to answer H.J. and Rob : > > No, of course my camera doesn't hold 17 GB (!) - only 128 MB. > > It took me a while to post this, because I had to reboot 4 times in > order to get rid of all those strange icons and calm down my CPU a > little. > > I tried "supermount -i disable" with no succes, and I removed > "magicdev" as well. No changes, still this camera (or is it the xD > card in it ?) haunts my system. I even tried to connect it to my > daughters Windows-box in order to check if the card was defunct, > which it isn't (and the camera screen works O.K.). > > To me this seems like a USB malfunction. I tried to add the camera > to /etc/fstab with different settings, like sda0 and sda1, umask=0, > noauto, user etc.. etcStill no go. > > Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ??? > > Kaj Haulrich. Do you have FLPhoto and GTKam installed? -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:14, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ??? > > Kaj Haulrich. Trust you to find a white raven:( ... --- Naah, just kidding;) There's something very wrong on the way this USB device initiates and the kernel reacts. Alas, I'm not knowledgeable enough to answer this off-hand nor do I have the time to find out:( I'd like to, though...love a challenge any day;) Surely there's some alias function there for you but I don't know it..dang I frankly haven't tried my own camera on 10.1 yet but I did connect an acquaintance's (horrible word, heh) camerawhich IIRC didn't quite do as it should've, i.e. required some CML mumbojumbo (that's what they called it, anyway). Maybe somebody else'll chip in..!!! -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:40, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual > > result : my system went completely bezerk. Here I the output > > from /var/log/messages : > > > > Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB > > device using address 2 > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Initializing USB Mass > > Storage driver... > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for > > USB Mass Storage devices > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Vendor: OLYMPUS Model: > > C740UZ Rev: 1.00 > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Type: Direct-Access > > ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: usbcore: registered new > > driver usb-storage > > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: USB Mass Storage support > > registered. > > > > .And it goes on and on forever. > > > > Furthermore, lsmod mentiones nothing about a camera. > > There is no camera listed by lsmod, as your camera is seen as a > hard drive, nothing more. See up above about the USB Mass Storage > support. > > Mine is too. That is normal for many cameras on the market. > > What happens if you disable supermount with a "supermount > disable" command at root? > > There is also another tool like supermount that installs with > Gnome, but I forget what it is. I uninstalled it long ago. > > Rob Well, to answer H.J. and Rob : No, of course my camera doesn't hold 17 GB (!) - only 128 MB. It took me a while to post this, because I had to reboot 4 times in order to get rid of all those strange icons and calm down my CPU a little. I tried "supermount -i disable" with no succes, and I removed "magicdev" as well. No changes, still this camera (or is it the xD card in it ?) haunts my system. I even tried to connect it to my daughters Windows-box in order to check if the card was defunct, which it isn't (and the camera screen works O.K.). To me this seems like a USB malfunction. I tried to add the camera to /etc/fstab with different settings, like sda0 and sda1, umask=0, noauto, user etc.. etcStill no go. Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ??? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual result : > my system went completely bezerk. Here I the output > from /var/log/messages : > > Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB > device using address 2 > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage > driver... > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB > Mass Storage devices > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Vendor: OLYMPUS Model: C740UZ > Rev: 1.00 > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Type: Direct-Access > ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: usbcore: registered new driver > usb-storage > Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: USB Mass Storage support > registered. > .And it goes on and on forever. > > Furthermore, lsmod mentiones nothing about a camera. There is no camera listed by lsmod, as your camera is seen as a hard drive, nothing more. See up above about the USB Mass Storage support. Mine is too. That is normal for many cameras on the market. What happens if you disable supermount with a "supermount disable" command at root? There is also another tool like supermount that installs with Gnome, but I forget what it is. I uninstalled it long ago. Rob -- Linux User #183693 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Can you decipher that ? > > Thanks in advance... > > Kaj Haulrich. Not realy, except that it's disconnecting and reconnecting...but why it's doing that, dunno:( Did you try "supermount -i disable" so as to be sure it's not creating this muck? what surprises me is the size of /dev/sda ( 17180 MB).is your camera really that big or is it some other scsi device getting in the way ? -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 19:58, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 14:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Hello friends... > > > > Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm > > : Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon > > on my desktop (be it KDE or Gnome) and I could copy, move, > > delete and one thing and another, just as another mass storage > > medium. I could even use the camera as another USB stick. > > > > But in 10.1 the thing goes crazy : plugging the camera into an > > USB port clutters the desktop with strange icons > > (xsane-blah-blah-blah), rearranges all other icons and never > > stops. > > > > Furthermore the CPU goes bananas. Using "top" when in KDE > > shows kdeinit consuming 99% of the CPU cycles. In Gnome nothing > > shows in "top", but nevertheless the system becomes almost > > unusable. Logging out/in doesn't remedy the problem, only a > > full reboot does. > > > > Strange thing is, /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab don't reveil > > anything concerning the matter. > > > > Do I really have to roll back to 10.0 ? > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > I'm quit happy with 10.1, so (according to me) > you shouldn't roll back. > > But Kaj, > what do you get when running "tail -f /var/log/messages" when you > plug in the device? > That's where we should be looking as well as "lsmod" before > and after plugging-in. > > Are these symptoms showing up in gnome as well as in KDE? You > didn't mention;) H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual result : my system went completely bezerk. Here I the output from /var/log/messages : Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Vendor: OLYMPUS Model: C740UZ Rev: 1.00 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 scsi.agent[7050]: disk at /devices/pci:00/:00:10.1/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/host0/0:0:0:0 Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: SCSI device sda: 33554432 512-byte hdwr sectors (17180 MB) Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through Oct 26 21:05:46 0x50c63c55 kernel: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:<6>usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 2 Oct 26 21:05:47 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using address 4 Oct 26 21:05:47 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 4 Oct 26 21:05:47 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using address 5 Oct 26 21:05:48 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 5 Oct 26 21:05:48 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using address 6 Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: scsi0: ERROR on channel 0, id 0, lun 0, CDB: Read (10) 00 01 ff ff f8 00 00 08 00 Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: Info fld=0x1f8, Current sda: sense key Medium Error Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: Additional sense: Unrecovered read error Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 33554424 Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 4194303 Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 scannerdrake[7479]: ### Program is starting ### Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 6 Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using address 7 Oct 26 21:05:49 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 7 Oct 26 21:05:50 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using address 8 Oct 26 21:05:51 0x50c63c55 scannerdrake[7597]: ### Program is starting ### .And it goes on and on forever. Furthermore, lsmod mentiones nothing about a camera. Can you decipher that ? Thanks in advance... Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 20:16, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Thanks, H.J. > > Right now I'm a little reluctant to plug in my camera again, because > it makes my 10.1 completely unusable. If nothing else shows up, I > may have to, and will let you know. > > lsmod doesn't show anything about a camera. > > And yes, KDE + Gnome + ICEwm + Windowmaker all runs amok after a > camera is plugged in. This is driving me crazy. > > Kaj Haulrich. So "telinit 3" into level 3 (you know the good ol' CML;)) and plug in whilst running "tail -f /var/log/messages" there and on another tty running "mc" (to try and read your device) and on yet another tty just logged in as root so you can "telinit 1" into level 1 if things turn bad. At least you'll know whether it's just the w-manager or not. It can't be that bad. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 19:58, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 14:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Hello friends... > > > > Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm > > : Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon > > on my desktop (be it KDE or Gnome) and I could copy, move, > > delete and one thing and another, just as another mass storage > > medium. I could even use the camera as another USB stick. > > > > But in 10.1 the thing goes crazy : plugging the camera into an > > USB port clutters the desktop with strange icons > > (xsane-blah-blah-blah), rearranges all other icons and never > > stops. > > > > Furthermore the CPU goes bananas. Using "top" when in KDE > > shows kdeinit consuming 99% of the CPU cycles. In Gnome nothing > > shows in "top", but nevertheless the system becomes almost > > unusable. Logging out/in doesn't remedy the problem, only a > > full reboot does. > > > > Strange thing is, /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab don't reveil > > anything concerning the matter. > > > > Do I really have to roll back to 10.0 ? > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > I'm quit happy with 10.1, so (according to me) > you shouldn't roll back. > > But Kaj, > what do you get when running "tail -f /var/log/messages" when you > plug in the device? > That's where we should be looking as well as "lsmod" before > and after plugging-in. > > Are these symptoms showing up in gnome as well as in KDE? You > didn't mention;) Thanks, H.J. Right now I'm a little reluctant to plug in my camera again, because it makes my 10.1 completely unusable. If nothing else shows up, I may have to, and will let you know. lsmod doesn't show anything about a camera. And yes, KDE + Gnome + ICEwm + Windowmaker all runs amok after a camera is plugged in. This is driving me crazy. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 14:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Hello friends... > > Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm : > Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon on my > desktop (be it KDE or Gnome) and I could copy, move, delete and one > thing and another, just as another mass storage medium. I could > even use the camera as another USB stick. > > But in 10.1 the thing goes crazy : plugging the camera into an USB > port clutters the desktop with strange icons > (xsane-blah-blah-blah), rearranges all other icons and never stops. > > Furthermore the CPU goes bananas. Using "top" when in KDE shows > kdeinit consuming 99% of the CPU cycles. In Gnome nothing shows in > "top", but nevertheless the system becomes almost unusable. Logging > out/in doesn't remedy the problem, only a full reboot does. > > Strange thing is, /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab don't reveil anything > concerning the matter. > > Do I really have to roll back to 10.0 ? > > Kaj Haulrich. I'm quit happy with 10.1, so (according to me) you shouldn't roll back. But Kaj, what do you get when running "tail -f /var/log/messages" when you plug in the device? That's where we should be looking as well as "lsmod" before and after plugging-in. Are these symptoms showing up in gnome as well as in KDE? You didn't mention;) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
Hello friends... Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm : Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon on my desktop (be it KDE or Gnome) and I could copy, move, delete and one thing and another, just as another mass storage medium. I could even use the camera as another USB stick. But in 10.1 the thing goes crazy : plugging the camera into an USB port clutters the desktop with strange icons (xsane-blah-blah-blah), rearranges all other icons and never stops. Furthermore the CPU goes bananas. Using "top" when in KDE shows kdeinit consuming 99% of the CPU cycles. In Gnome nothing shows in "top", but nevertheless the system becomes almost unusable. Logging out/in doesn't remedy the problem, only a full reboot does. Strange thing is, /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab don't reveil anything concerning the matter. Do I really have to roll back to 10.0 ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] digital camera / 2.4 kernel
Hi, A thread in the archives suggests that my Fuji camera is not fully supported in the 2.6 kernel. It also suggests that the 2.4 kernel supplied with LM10 does a better job. (LM9.1 supported it flawlessly) Is there absolutely no way to have the camera on 2.6? If not, what is the easiest way to downgrade to the 2.4? tia, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Camera and Mandrake 10
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:58:55 - "Sweeney, Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I've got a small problem with my digital camera and Mandrake 10. > > Before, with MDK9.0, I used to plug it into the USB port and mount it on > /dev/sda1 (set as vfat) and that would work fine. > > When I plugged the camera into MDK10 my USB mouse stopped working and I am > unable to mount the camera. > > Trying to create sda1, sda2, etc with mknod hasn't helped either. I've read > that the sda# devices aren't really supposed to be used anymore and > /dev/usb/... Should be used instead. Is this correct? > > The other problem is that I've also tried to get the usb-storage and > usb-uchi loaded by adding them to /etc/modules but it doesn't seem to have > make any effect when booting. > > If I attempt to mount the camera currently my system will freeze. Any > advice? I had the same problem with mine. I installed the 2.4 kernel that came with mdk 10. I boot to it instead and the camera works fine. hope that helps Jerry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Digital Camera and Mandrake 10
Hi All, I've got a small problem with my digital camera and Mandrake 10. Before, with MDK9.0, I used to plug it into the USB port and mount it on /dev/sda1 (set as vfat) and that would work fine. When I plugged the camera into MDK10 my USB mouse stopped working and I am unable to mount the camera. Trying to create sda1, sda2, etc with mknod hasn't helped either. I've read that the sda# devices aren't really supposed to be used anymore and /dev/usb/... Should be used instead. Is this correct? The other problem is that I've also tried to get the usb-storage and usb-uchi loaded by adding them to /etc/modules but it doesn't seem to have make any effect when booting. If I attempt to mount the camera currently my system will freeze. Any advice? Cheers, Stevie :) -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Digital Camera Kodak CX 4230
Hi, I have a digital camera Kodak CX 4230. I plug it into USB port. And then, there is no respond from the USB, but when I changed it with another digital camera, FUJI and EPSON, they work fine. And then I check the connection in Mandrake Control Center, Hardware, HardDrake, under the tab Unknown/Others, I see EasyShare CX 4230 camera. Can anyone help me how I resolve the problem, I plug it into the USB I see it under Mandrake Control Center but I cannot access the USB? I am sorry in advance if I confuse you with my writing. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Digital camera: fstab changes succes!
Following with the FinePix S602 Zoom and Mandrake 9.0, I have added the next line to fstab: /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera auto user,noauto,nosuid 0 0 after do "mount -a", now I have added a new hd mount icon for /dev/sda1 and anyuser can mount the /mnt/camera, look the pictures and copy, erase them. Is fantastic! Merry Christmas to everybody! -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera
On Wednesday 01 May 2002 06:44, Bart wrote: > But i can not seem to download the pictures with gPhoto 0.4.3 or 2.0 > . I think this camera is not supported by gphoto . > Are there anternatives or is there a workaround ?? If you have a compact flash reader, stick the card in there and type: modprobe usb-storage mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera (or whatever mount point you want) You should be able to access the card just like a drive. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional KDE 2.2.1 KMail 1.3.1 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera
Op Wednesday 01 May 2002 13:10, schreef u: > Es Dimecres 01 Maig 2002 12:44, en Bart Salien va escriure: > > I have a digital camera type Nikon coolpix 775 in loan form a friend . > > It has a usb connection to download the stored pictures on the flash card > > . The usb connetion is working fine , i can se it with 'usbviewer' as > > NIKON DSC E775 . > > But i can not seem to download the pictures with gPhoto 0.4.3 or 2.0 . > > I think this camera is not supported by gphoto . > > > > Are there anternatives or is there a workaround ?? > > Nikon 700 appears to be working under gphoto2. Have you tryed running > gphoto2 --auto-detect ? I found the solution outside gPhoto . The usb connection acts as a SCSII device , so i just had to make a new mount point and mount it as a FAT32 disk . It works perfect . Thanks for the reply . Bart. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera
Es Dimecres 01 Maig 2002 12:44, en Bart Salien va escriure: > I have a digital camera type Nikon coolpix 775 in loan form a friend . > It has a usb connection to download the stored pictures on the flash card . > The usb connetion is working fine , i can se it with 'usbviewer' as > NIKON DSC E775 . > But i can not seem to download the pictures with gPhoto 0.4.3 or 2.0 . > I think this camera is not supported by gphoto . > > Are there anternatives or is there a workaround ?? Nikon 700 appears to be working under gphoto2. Have you tryed running gphoto2 --auto-detect ? -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Digital camera
I have a digital camera type Nikon coolpix 775 in loan form a friend . It has a usb connection to download the stored pictures on the flash card . The usb connetion is working fine , i can se it with 'usbviewer' as NIKON DSC E775 . But i can not seem to download the pictures with gPhoto 0.4.3 or 2.0 . I think this camera is not supported by gphoto . Are there anternatives or is there a workaround ?? Bart. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Digital Camera Quickie
Just another quickie: Has anyone used a Pretec DC-520 Dual-Mode VGA Digital Camera either as a webcam or as a digital camera on Mandrake, or any Linux for that matter? Or even heard of it? HardDrake doesn't know what it is, it just tells me its a USB device, which is right. How do I go about getting USB Webcams to work on LNX, how do I mount it, or go about mounting it, as I've read on the list? Anybody, any help, any time. TIA. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux
Dear Group I want to thank all of you for your helpful input on this subject. I wound up with an Olympus D-100 which I believe is even the Gphoto list only it shows a D-100z??? However in windows 2000 it does set up exactly like ultima notes below. So I have every reason to believe that this will work. I'm reading that one of the 8.1 features is that it will automatically put an icon on the screen when you hotplug the USB for a new driveassuming my interpretation of what they are saying is correct. That would be really nice, simple, and conveniant. So far have not had time to try the linux, but will let the group know if I get it working. Tazmun - Original Message - From: ultima To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tazmun Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux USB is preferable to serial transfers, for speed and convenience. And you won't need Gphoto. I have a Fuji camera with Smartmedia cards and LM8.0, and the system reads the Smartmedia card just like a hard drive. If you get a USB smartmedia card reader, you can read and write to the card. Plg in the camera to the USB port and let the system detect it. Then you'll be able to mount it from /dev/sda1. > > On Tuesday 25 September 2001 01:55, you wrote: > > Both have USB working in Linux for printers at this point. Is the USB > > interface to downloading from digital cameras doable or am I better off to > > stay with the older serial transfer interface. I'm open to suggestions and Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux
USB is preferable to serial transfers, for speed and convenience. And you won't need Gphoto. I have a Fuji camera with Smartmedia cards and LM8.0, and the system reads the Smartmedia card just like a hard drive. If you get a USB smartmedia card reader, you can read and write to the card. Plg in the camera to the USB port and let the system detect it. Then you'll be able to mount it from /dev/sda1. > > On Tuesday 25 September 2001 01:55, you wrote: > > Both have USB working in Linux for printers at this point. Is the USB > > interface to downloading from digital cameras doable or am I better off to > > stay with the older serial transfer interface. I'm open to suggestions and Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux
USB is preferable to serial transfers, for speed and convenience. And you won't need Gphoto. I have a Fuji camera with Smartmedia cards and LM8.0, and the system reads the Smartmedia card just like a hard drive. If you get a USB smartmedia card reader, you can read and write to the card. Plg in the camera to the USB port and let the system detect it. Then you'll be able to mount it from /dev/sda1. > > On Tuesday 25 September 2001 01:55, you wrote: > > Both have USB working in Linux for printers at this point. Is the USB > > interface to downloading from digital cameras doable or am I better off to > > stay with the older serial transfer interface. I'm open to suggestions and Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux
Forget gphoto. You don't always need it. I have an Olympus 4040Z. All I do to make it work is: 1) Plug it in (USB) (and turn it on of course) 2) Run modprobe usb-storage 3) mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/cam (set up the mount point ahead of time). 4) cd /mnt/cam/... And enjoy the pictures. Want to just browse through them? Use gqview (on the gnome install). Need to edit them? Use GIMP. It's far better than gphoto anyway (IMHO). Everyone seems to think that you can't see these things without gphoto.. Whith some cameras that may be true. But not the Olympus. It was designed not to require extra drivers. I do this now, and it works like a charm. The same will hold true for the older model 3040Z as well. Enjoy! Ric tazmun wrote: > Hello group: > > In pursuit of making windows a distant memory, I am working towards trying > to make sure all my hardware is Linux compliant. Unfortunately windows > still lives here as my proficiency with Linux is still lacking. I am > considering purchasing an Olympus digital camera that uses smart media cards > and is apparently designed to be used with USB interface. I'm hoping the > group can save me considerable time and possibly a lot of money by helping > me avoid hardware that is questionable or absolutely doesn't work with Linux > as well as the best software program available. Currently running 2 boxes > one with Mandrake 8.0 and one with Redhat 7.1. As soon as Mandrake releases > 8.1 to the local stores I will own Mandrake 8.1 Powerpack Both have USB > working in Linux for printers at this point. Is the USB interface to > downloading from digital cameras doable or am I better off to stay with the > older serial transfer interface. I'm open to suggestions and am willing to > spend approximately $300. I admit that I have not researched this much yet. > However I am under pressure from my job to get this camera working in the > very near future and don't have allot of time to look everything over as > thoroughly as I would like. Your experiences and thoughts will be > appreciated. > > Thanks Tazmun > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > message.footer > > Content-Type: > > text/plain > Content-Encoding: > > 8bit > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux
My camera is a Casio QV7000SX and it is not listed as supported by Gphoto, and since there are no Casio's on the list at all I thought it would be futile to just try drivers out at random. If anyone has managed to get any Casio model to work I would be interested to hear of it. On Tuesday 25 September 2001 10:10, you wrote: > On Tuesday 25 September 2001 10:49 am, gunner carstens escribió: > > Derek Jennings wrote: > > > Have you checked out www.gphoto.org > > > Gphoto is software to handle digital cameras in Linux. They have a > > > catalogue of 103 supported cameras. > > > Mine is not on the list.. Doh > > > > My Kodak DC240 is working very well with the gPhoto althouth I use > > the serial port. Both USB and serial connection is provided with this > > Kodak camera but I havent tried the USB yet, as the serial is > > functioning well. > > The GPhoto software is much better than that provided by Kodak (for > > macintosh). > > /gunner > > I did a quick Google and found a Linux database of USB cameras (ie, > work/don't work) http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ > > There's many Olympus models listed (for the original poster). > I have a Olympus 360 DL serial, which isn't in Gphoto's list Derek, but > still works fine with Gphoto by selecting a close model (500 DL IIRC). > Just like you gunner, my camera seems to work better with Gphoto, than > in Windoze with the software that came with the camera. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux
* tazmun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010925 07:03]: [snip] > considering purchasing an Olympus digital camera that uses smart media cards > and is apparently designed to be used with USB interface. I'm hoping the > group can save me considerable time and possibly a lot of money by helping > me avoid hardware that is questionable or absolutely doesn't work with Linux > as well as the best software program available. Currently running 2 boxes > one with Mandrake 8.0 and one with Redhat 7.1. As soon as Mandrake releases > 8.1 to the local stores I will own Mandrake 8.1 Powerpack Both have USB > working in Linux for printers at this point. Is the USB interface to > downloading from digital cameras doable or am I better off to stay with the > older serial transfer interface. I'm open to suggestions and am willing to > spend approximately $300. I admit that I have not researched this much yet. > However I am under pressure from my job to get this camera working in the > very near future and don't have allot of time to look everything over as > thoroughly as I would like. Your experiences and thoughts will be > appreciated. gphoto2 is working fine for downloading images via USB from my Olympus 3030Z. It's a little tricky to set up, but once you've got it it works great. It wasn't very clear (to me at least) in the gphoto2 docs that the folder they were talking about was the folder name on the CAMERA. For my camera, this will download all images to the current directory: gphoto2 -f DCIM/100OLYMP -P BTW, gphoto2 recognized and identified the camera just fine. It's just that the documentation is pretty skimpy ... type gphoto2 without any arguments and it will give you a short help summary ... that's most of what you get for help (no man page). -- Jan Wilson, SysAdmin _/*]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corozal Junior College | |:' corozal.com corozal.bz Corozal Town, Belize | /' chetumal.com & linux.bz Reg. Linux user #151611 |_/ Network, SQL, Perl, HTML Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 10:49 am, gunner carstens escribió: > Derek Jennings wrote: > > Have you checked out www.gphoto.org > > Gphoto is software to handle digital cameras in Linux. They have a > > catalogue of 103 supported cameras. > > Mine is not on the list.. Doh > My Kodak DC240 is working very well with the gPhoto althouth I use > the serial port. Both USB and serial connection is provided with this > Kodak camera but I havent tried the USB yet, as the serial is > functioning well. > The GPhoto software is much better than that provided by Kodak (for > macintosh). > /gunner I did a quick Google and found a Linux database of USB cameras (ie, work/don't work) http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ There's many Olympus models listed (for the original poster). I have a Olympus 360 DL serial, which isn't in Gphoto's list Derek, but still works fine with Gphoto by selecting a close model (500 DL IIRC). Just like you gunner, my camera seems to work better with Gphoto, than in Windoze with the software that came with the camera. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Admiral Yamamoto: "I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux
I have Toshiba PDR-M5 Digital camera that uses SmartMedia with USB/Serial port and it works fine ! You just have to start the USB daemon (as root) by "/etc/rc.d/init.d/usb start', then mount the '/dev/tty1' to some directory (i did it with '/mnt/digitalcam'), and thats it !! you just go to '/mnt/digitalcam' and copy all your images like from regular diskette !!! Very simple and easy. Michael Spivak -Original Message- From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux Have you checked out www.gphoto.org Gphoto is software to handle digital cameras in Linux. They have a catalogue of 103 supported cameras. Mine is not on the list.. Doh Derek On Tuesday 25 September 2001 01:55, you wrote: > Hello group: > > In pursuit of making windows a distant memory, I am working towards trying > to make sure all my hardware is Linux compliant. Unfortunately windows > still lives here as my proficiency with Linux is still lacking. I am > considering purchasing an Olympus digital camera that uses smart media > cards and is apparently designed to be used with USB interface. I'm hoping > the group can save me considerable time and possibly a lot of money by > helping me avoid hardware that is questionable or absolutely doesn't work > with Linux as well as the best software program available. Currently > running 2 boxes one with Mandrake 8.0 and one with Redhat 7.1. As soon as > Mandrake releases 8.1 to the local stores I will own Mandrake 8.1 Powerpack > Both have USB working in Linux for printers at this point. Is the USB > interface to downloading from digital cameras doable or am I better off to > stay with the older serial transfer interface. I'm open to suggestions and > am willing to spend approximately $300. I admit that I have not researched > this much yet. However I am under pressure from my job to get this camera > working in the very near future and don't have allot of time to look > everything over as thoroughly as I would like. Your experiences and > thoughts will be appreciated. > > Thanks Tazmun Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux
Have you checked out www.gphoto.org Gphoto is software to handle digital cameras in Linux. They have a catalogue of 103 supported cameras. Mine is not on the list.. Doh Derek On Tuesday 25 September 2001 01:55, you wrote: > Hello group: > > In pursuit of making windows a distant memory, I am working towards trying > to make sure all my hardware is Linux compliant. Unfortunately windows > still lives here as my proficiency with Linux is still lacking. I am > considering purchasing an Olympus digital camera that uses smart media > cards and is apparently designed to be used with USB interface. I'm hoping > the group can save me considerable time and possibly a lot of money by > helping me avoid hardware that is questionable or absolutely doesn't work > with Linux as well as the best software program available. Currently > running 2 boxes one with Mandrake 8.0 and one with Redhat 7.1. As soon as > Mandrake releases 8.1 to the local stores I will own Mandrake 8.1 Powerpack > Both have USB working in Linux for printers at this point. Is the USB > interface to downloading from digital cameras doable or am I better off to > stay with the older serial transfer interface. I'm open to suggestions and > am willing to spend approximately $300. I admit that I have not researched > this much yet. However I am under pressure from my job to get this camera > working in the very near future and don't have allot of time to look > everything over as thoroughly as I would like. Your experiences and > thoughts will be appreciated. > > Thanks Tazmun Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Digital Camera
Hi there, I was wondering if anyone has been sucessful hooking up a digital camera through the serial port (or USB) on Linux-Mandrake 7.2 or 8.0? I had it hooked up when I used Windows and now I don't use Windows anymore and I don't want the camera to goto waste. Thanks! Richard Wegner = Richard Wegner - Linux User - [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: Derek Rayne is a FICTIONAL CHARACTER this is just an e-mail address I chose! "I don't do Windows" me (Proud Linux User) ICQ #: 12781393 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
