Re: [newbie] FIXED - ALSA driver not running
On Sunday 25 July 2004 09:08 pm, Dave Ashmore wrote: > > > > > > > > href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > wrap="">My heartfelt thanks to Frans and Raffaele. The problem is fixed, > kinda. XMMS still refuses to play mp3s or oggs properly, even those ripped > by myself with Grip. Totem plays both, though, so XMMS is going to be > uninstalled pronto. Shame, really, I like it better than Totem, but there > you are. > > Totem, however, is still being rubbish with CDs. Not to worry, Grip > plays them beautifully even if that's not its primary function. The > problem with Grip was as easily solved as turning the volume up with > alsamixer. Duh! > > AmÃlia Rodrigues singing fados. Ah, mellowness! :) > > Thanks guys, > GermÃn. > > On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 21:39, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > > > On Sunday 25 July 2004 16:57, class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" > href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 21:09, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > > > Try this (as root): > > Edit the /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf (back them up > first) and remove all sound-related stuff (lines containing > 'sound', 'sb', 'synth', 'opl3'). Also remove all sound-related > modules from the kernel with rmmod. > > > Done. > > > > Now try to insmod the snd-ess1688. If it works it will > pull in all the necessary sound core modules. > > > Done, with modprobe. > > The improvement is tremendous. In XMMS and Totem I can now listen to > mp3s, but they still have glitches. As in, they suddenly skip bits or > "jump a groove" as if they were vinils. The files are all right, I > can play them on Winamp from a Windblows box on my network. Still, > it's infinitely better than before, mp3-wise. XMMS is specially bad, > Totem seems to do better. > > > If your system is old check the CPU load with 'top'. I > would also try encoding my own mp3: the mp3's you tried may have errors > which Windows had a workaround for. > > > > The weirdness doesn't end, though. Not at all! Audio > CDs, which Grip played beautifully when I had the mess I had before I > uninstalled the OSS modules, are now giving me a hard time. Grip no longer > plays them - the timer counts the seconds as if the track was playing, but > there is no sound. Since I had to change the output plugin from libOSS.so > to libALSA.so in ~/.xmms/config, I thought to do the same for Grip. > > ALSA has OSS emulation, just modprobe snd-pcm-oss and > snd-mixer-oss. > > > > But there doesn't seem to be an option to change the > plugin in ~/.grip. > > > On my system grip brings up KsCD as the player. You can > use alsamixer to raise the volume of the CD channel. Be sure the channel is > unmuted (no 'MM' at the top, toggle with the 'm' key). > > > > And CD playing in Totem is worse than mp3s on XMMS. It > seems I have to choose between playing CDs with Grip or mp3s with Totem. :( > > > Totem plays using the drive's IDE interface which is CPU > intensive. With KsCD digital to analog conversion is done in the CDROM > drive and an ananalog signal is send to the soundcard. In modern systems > manufacturers often don't install the needed analog cable. > > > > > If it fails with a 'board not found' or > similar error, you might need to enable the board. You do it this > way: > > > > Note what Raffaele wrote: "If it fails with a 'board not > found' or > > > similar error" :-) > > > > > > Install the isapnp package, then type > # pnpdump > isapnp.conf > and edit the isapnp.conf file. Read the file to understand what to > do, it is quite well explained (ask if unclear). In short, pnpdump > scans the ISA bus and presents you with a number of possible > configurations for the board, you need to manually select one by > uncommenting the appropriate lines. > > After you are done, run > # isapnp isapnp.conf > you should see messages confirming the board was correctly > configured and enabled. Now try again to insmod snd-ess1688. > > If this works, you'll need to configure the /etc/modprobe.preload > to load the ess-1688 at boot, later on that. > > If some of the steps fail, send the error messages across. I don't > guarantee it works for you, or that it's the easiest way, but > that's how I manage to make the ESS (or the AZT, also an ISA board) > work after every MDK install. > > raffaele > > > OK, I'm going to remove the sound modules again, install > isapnp and try with that, I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for all the > info. > > GermÃn. > > > HTH, > > -Frans > > > > __ > ___
Re: [newbie] FIXED - ALSA driver not running
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My heartfelt thanks to Frans and Raffaele. The problem is fixed, kinda. XMMS still refuses to play mp3s or oggs properly, even those ripped by myself with Grip. Totem plays both, though, so XMMS is going to be uninstalled pronto. Shame, really, I like it better than Totem, but there you are. Totem, however, is still being rubbish with CDs. Not to worry, Grip plays them beautifully even if that's not its primary function. The problem with Grip was as easily solved as turning the volume up with alsamixer. Duh! AmÃlia Rodrigues singing fados. Ah, mellowness! :) Thanks guys, GermÃn. On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 21:39, Frans Ketelaars wrote: On Sunday 25 July 2004 16:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 21:09, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: Try this (as root): Edit the /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf (back them up first) and remove all sound-related stuff (lines containing 'sound', 'sb', 'synth', 'opl3'). Also remove all sound-related modules from the kernel with rmmod. Done. Now try to insmod the snd-ess1688. If it works it will pull in all the necessary sound core modules. Done, with modprobe. The improvement is tremendous. In XMMS and Totem I can now listen to mp3s, but they still have glitches. As in, they suddenly skip bits or "jump a groove" as if they were vinils. The files are all right, I can play them on Winamp from a Windblows box on my network. Still, it's infinitely better than before, mp3-wise. XMMS is specially bad, Totem seems to do better. If your system is old check the CPU load with 'top'. I would also try encoding my own mp3: the mp3's you tried may have errors which Windows had a workaround for. The weirdness doesn't end, though. Not at all! Audio CDs, which Grip played beautifully when I had the mess I had before I uninstalled the OSS modules, are now giving me a hard time. Grip no longer plays them - the timer counts the seconds as if the track was playing, but there is no sound. Since I had to change the output plugin from libOSS.so to libALSA.so in ~/.xmms/config, I thought to do the same for Grip. ALSA has OSS emulation, just modprobe snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss. But there doesn't seem to be an option to change the plugin in ~/.grip. On my system grip brings up KsCD as the player. You can use alsamixer to raise the volume of the CD channel. Be sure the channel is unmuted (no 'MM' at the top, toggle with the 'm' key). And CD playing in Totem is worse than mp3s on XMMS. It seems I have to choose between playing CDs with Grip or mp3s with Totem. :( Totem plays using the drive's IDE interface which is CPU intensive. With KsCD digital to analog conversion is done in the CDROM drive and an ananalog signal is send to the soundcard. In modern systems manufacturers often don't install the needed analog cable. If it fails with a 'board not found' or similar error, you might need to enable the board. You do it this way: Note what Raffaele wrote: "If it fails with a 'board not found' or similar error" :-) Install the isapnp package, then type # pnpdump > isapnp.conf and edit the isapnp.conf file. Read the file to understand what to do, it is quite well explained (ask if unclear). In short, pnpdump scans the ISA bus and presents you with a number of possible configurations for the board, you need to manually select one by uncommenting the appropriate lines. After you are done, run # isapnp isapnp.conf you should see messages confirming the board was correctly configured and enabled. Now try again to insmod snd-ess1688. If this works, you'll need to configure the /etc/modprobe.preload to load the ess-1688 at boot, later on that. If some of the steps fail, send the error messages across. I don't guarantee it works for you, or that it's the easiest way, but that's how I manage to make the ESS (or the AZT, also an ISA board) work after every MDK install. raffaele OK, I'm going to remove the sound modules again, install isapnp and try with that, I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for all the info. GermÃn. HTH, -Frans __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com ___
Re: [newbie] FIXED - ALSA driver not running
My heartfelt thanks to Frans and Raffaele. The problem is fixed, kinda. XMMS still refuses to play mp3s or oggs properly, even those ripped by myself with Grip. Totem plays both, though, so XMMS is going to be uninstalled pronto. Shame, really, I like it better than Totem, but there you are. Totem, however, is still being rubbish with CDs. Not to worry, Grip plays them beautifully even if that's not its primary function. The problem with Grip was as easily solved as turning the volume up with alsamixer. Duh! AmÃlia Rodrigues singing fados. Ah, mellowness! :) Thanks guys, GermÃn. On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 21:39, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > On Sunday 25 July 2004 16:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 21:09, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > > > Try this (as root): > > > > > > Edit the /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf (back them up > > > first) and remove all sound-related stuff (lines containing > > > 'sound', 'sb', 'synth', 'opl3'). Also remove all sound-related > > > modules from the kernel with rmmod. > > > > Done. > > > > > Now try to insmod the snd-ess1688. If it works it will pull in all > > > the necessary sound core modules. > > > > Done, with modprobe. > > > > The improvement is tremendous. In XMMS and Totem I can now listen to > > mp3s, but they still have glitches. As in, they suddenly skip bits or > > "jump a groove" as if they were vinils. The files are all right, I > > can play them on Winamp from a Windblows box on my network. Still, > > it's infinitely better than before, mp3-wise. XMMS is specially bad, > > Totem seems to do better. > > If your system is old check the CPU load with 'top'. I would also try > encoding my own mp3: the mp3's you tried may have errors which Windows > had a workaround for. > > > The weirdness doesn't end, though. Not at all! Audio CDs, which Grip > > played beautifully when I had the mess I had before I uninstalled the > > OSS modules, are now giving me a hard time. Grip no longer plays them > > - the timer counts the seconds as if the track was playing, but there > > is no sound. Since I had to change the output plugin from libOSS.so > > to libALSA.so in ~/.xmms/config, I thought to do the same for Grip. > > ALSA has OSS emulation, just modprobe snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss. > > > But there doesn't seem to be an option to change the plugin in > > ~/.grip. > > On my system grip brings up KsCD as the player. You can use alsamixer to > raise the volume of the CD channel. Be sure the channel is unmuted (no > 'MM' at the top, toggle with the 'm' key). > > > And CD playing in Totem is worse than mp3s on XMMS. It seems I have > > to choose between playing CDs with Grip or mp3s with Totem. :( > > Totem plays using the drive's IDE interface which is CPU intensive. With > KsCD digital to analog conversion is done in the CDROM drive and an > ananalog signal is send to the soundcard. In modern systems > manufacturers often don't install the needed analog cable. > > > > If it fails with a 'board not found' or > > > similar error, you might need to enable the board. You do it this > > > way: > > Note what Raffaele wrote: "If it fails with a 'board not found' or > > > similar error" :-) > > > > Install the isapnp package, then type > > > # pnpdump > isapnp.conf > > > and edit the isapnp.conf file. Read the file to understand what to > > > do, it is quite well explained (ask if unclear). In short, pnpdump > > > scans the ISA bus and presents you with a number of possible > > > configurations for the board, you need to manually select one by > > > uncommenting the appropriate lines. > > > > > > After you are done, run > > > # isapnp isapnp.conf > > > you should see messages confirming the board was correctly > > > configured and enabled. Now try again to insmod snd-ess1688. > > > > > > If this works, you'll need to configure the /etc/modprobe.preload > > > to load the ess-1688 at boot, later on that. > > > > > > If some of the steps fail, send the error messages across. I don't > > > guarantee it works for you, or that it's the easiest way, but > > > that's how I manage to make the ESS (or the AZT, also an ISA board) > > > work after every MDK install. > > > > > > raffaele > > > > OK, I'm going to remove the sound modules again, install isapnp and > > try with that, I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for all the > > info. > > > > GermÃn. > > HTH, > > -Frans > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
