Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-25 Thread ~*Mark*~

Glyn Millington wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 01:43:23PM -0400, thus spake ~*Mark*~:
> > Glyn Millington wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 09:24:44AM -0400, thus spake ~*Mark*~:
> > > >
> > > > I re-ran the install.sh and made sure that ports 25 and 110 are indeed
> > > > open. FM is still not bringing down the mail for use in Pine. I really
> > > > came to like that program! Wish I could get it running again.
> > > > --
> > > > Mark
> > >
> > > Hi, Mark.
> > >
> > > I wonder where the problem really is here!
> > >
> > > Just in case, check port 25 and sendmail
> > > Try
> > >
> > > telnet localhost (or whatever your hostname) 25
> > >
> > > If you get a response type in
> > >
> > > HELO localhost
> > >
> > > You should get a cheery  "pleased to meet you message" from
> > > sendmail.  If not there is something wrong with sendmail, or your
> > > firewall will not even let YOU in.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Like this:-
> > >
> > > [glyn@glyn-thebearded glyn]$ telnet glyn-thebearded 25
> > > Trying 10.12.11.26...
> > > Connected to glyn-thebearded.localdomain.
> > > Escape character is '^]'.
> > > 220 glyn-thebearded.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 
>16:32:40 +0100
> > > HELO glyn-thebearded
> > > 250 glyn-thebearded.localdomain Hello glyn-thebearded.localdomain [10.12.11.26], 
>pleased to meet you
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Is fetchmail bringing down the mail anywhere?
> > >
> > > set syslog
> > >
> > > in your .fetchmailrc will send out put to maillog - you might
> > > then get some indication of where the mail IS going.
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > If that doesn't shed any light could you let us have a look at
> > > your fetchmailrc and a few chunks from maillog?
> > >
> > > Good luck?
> > >
> > > Glyn M
> > >
> > > --
> > >**
> > >* "The soul is greater than the hum of its parts. "  *
> > >* Douglas Hoftstatder*
> > >**
> >
> > On second thought I followed your example to the letter this time.
> >
> > I typed:  telnet localhost.localdomain 25  
> >
> > the resonse was:  Trying 192.168.99.1...
> >   telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: no route to
>   host
> >
> > Now I'm REALLY stumped.
> > --
> > Mark
> 
> Me too!  Sorry - I came in on this thread half way through so am
> not quite sure where you started from.
> 
> The telnet response above might indicate
> 
> 1. That port 25 IS closed by the firewall even though you think
> it isn't. Did it work BEFORE you set up pmfirewall?? Have you the
> patience to remove the firewall and try again?
> 
> 2. Maybe even that sendmail isn't there at all.  Is that
> possible?
> 
> rpm -q sendmail will tell you if it is there or not
> 
> like this -
> 
> [root@glyn-thebearded glyn]# rpm -q sendmail
> sendmail-8.9.3-18mdk
> [root@glyn-thebearded glyn]#
> 
> the reponse tells what the package is.
> 
> ps ax will tell you whether sendmail is running at the moment and
> on which port
> 
> Let me know what you get!
> 
> HTH
> 
> Glyn M
> 
> --
>**
>* "The soul is greater than the hum of its parts. "  *
>* Douglas Hoftstatder*
>**

Glyn,

Now I'm real stumped cause I uninstalled the firewall and it didn't make
a bit of difference. Sendmail is still causing a problem. Fetchmail
experiences a transaction error trying to bring down the mail from the
mailserver on the ISP and then get's a connection error talking to
localhost. I'm really at the end and don't have any idea where to do
next.
-- 
Mark

I love my Linux Box!
REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows!
Registered Linux user #1299563




Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-25 Thread ~*Mark*~

Glyn Millington wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 09:24:44AM -0400, thus spake ~*Mark*~:
> >
> > I re-ran the install.sh and made sure that ports 25 and 110 are indeed
> > open. FM is still not bringing down the mail for use in Pine. I really
> > came to like that program! Wish I could get it running again.
> > --
> > Mark
> 
> Hi, Mark.
> 
> I wonder where the problem really is here!
> 
> Just in case, check port 25 and sendmail
> Try
> 
> telnet localhost (or whatever your hostname) 25
> 
> If you get a response type in
> 
> HELO localhost
> 
> You should get a cheery  "pleased to meet you message" from
> sendmail.  If not there is something wrong with sendmail, or your
> firewall will not even let YOU in.
> 
> --
> Like this:-
> 
> [glyn@glyn-thebearded glyn]$ telnet glyn-thebearded 25
> Trying 10.12.11.26...
> Connected to glyn-thebearded.localdomain.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 glyn-thebearded.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 
>16:32:40 +0100
> HELO glyn-thebearded
> 250 glyn-thebearded.localdomain Hello glyn-thebearded.localdomain [10.12.11.26], 
>pleased to meet you
> ---
> 
> Is fetchmail bringing down the mail anywhere?
> 
> set syslog
> 
> in your .fetchmailrc will send out put to maillog - you might
> then get some indication of where the mail IS going.
> 
> ---
> 
> If that doesn't shed any light could you let us have a look at
> your fetchmailrc and a few chunks from maillog?
> 
> Good luck?
> 
> Glyn M
> 
> --
>**
>* "The soul is greater than the hum of its parts. "  *
>* Douglas Hoftstatder*
>**

On second thought I followed your example to the letter this time.

I typed:telnet localhost.localdomain 25  

the resonse was:Trying 192.168.99.1...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: no route to  
 host

Now I'm REALLY stumped.
-- 
Mark

I love my Linux Box!
REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows!
Registered Linux user #1299563




Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-25 Thread ~*Mark*~

Glyn Millington wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 09:24:44AM -0400, thus spake ~*Mark*~:
> >
> > I re-ran the install.sh and made sure that ports 25 and 110 are indeed
> > open. FM is still not bringing down the mail for use in Pine. I really
> > came to like that program! Wish I could get it running again.
> > --
> > Mark
> 
> Hi, Mark.
> 
> I wonder where the problem really is here!
> 
> Just in case, check port 25 and sendmail
> Try
> 
> telnet localhost (or whatever your hostname) 25
> 
> If you get a response type in
> 
> HELO localhost
> 
> You should get a cheery  "pleased to meet you message" from
> sendmail.  If not there is something wrong with sendmail, or your
> firewall will not even let YOU in.
> 
> --
> Like this:-
> 
> [glyn@glyn-thebearded glyn]$ telnet glyn-thebearded 25
> Trying 10.12.11.26...
> Connected to glyn-thebearded.localdomain.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 glyn-thebearded.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 
>16:32:40 +0100
> HELO glyn-thebearded
> 250 glyn-thebearded.localdomain Hello glyn-thebearded.localdomain [10.12.11.26], 
>pleased to meet you
> ---
> 
> Is fetchmail bringing down the mail anywhere?
> 
> set syslog
> 
> in your .fetchmailrc will send out put to maillog - you might
> then get some indication of where the mail IS going.
> 
> ---
> 
> If that doesn't shed any light could you let us have a look at
> your fetchmailrc and a few chunks from maillog?
> 
> Good luck?
> 
> Glyn M
> 
> --
>**
>* "The soul is greater than the hum of its parts. "  *
>* Douglas Hoftstatder*
>**

Well, I tried telneting into myself and got in, but when I issue the
HELO command it just comes back and says that's an unknown command. I
have no idea whether sendmail is working or not. I do think however that
that is where the problem is. What next?
-- 
Mark

I love my Linux Box!
REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows!
Registered Linux user #1299563




Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-25 Thread Glyn Millington

On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 09:24:44AM -0400, thus spake ~*Mark*~:
> 
> I re-ran the install.sh and made sure that ports 25 and 110 are indeed
> open. FM is still not bringing down the mail for use in Pine. I really
> came to like that program! Wish I could get it running again.
> -- 
> Mark

Hi, Mark.

I wonder where the problem really is here! 

Just in case, check port 25 and sendmail
Try 

telnet localhost (or whatever your hostname) 25

If you get a response type in

HELO localhost

You should get a cheery  "pleased to meet you message" from
sendmail.  If not there is something wrong with sendmail, or your
firewall will not even let YOU in.

--
Like this:-

[glyn@glyn-thebearded glyn]$ telnet glyn-thebearded 25
Trying 10.12.11.26...
Connected to glyn-thebearded.localdomain.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 glyn-thebearded.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:32:40 
+0100
HELO glyn-thebearded
250 glyn-thebearded.localdomain Hello glyn-thebearded.localdomain [10.12.11.26], 
pleased to meet you
---

Is fetchmail bringing down the mail anywhere?

set syslog

in your .fetchmailrc will send out put to maillog - you might
then get some indication of where the mail IS going.  

---

If that doesn't shed any light could you let us have a look at
your fetchmailrc and a few chunks from maillog?

Good luck?


Glyn M





-- 
   **
   * "The soul is greater than the hum of its parts. "  *
   * Douglas Hoftstatder*
   **




Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-25 Thread flupke

On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, ~*Mark*~ wrote:

> I re-ran the install.sh and made sure that ports 25 and 110 are indeed
> open. FM is still not bringing down the mail for use in Pine. I really
> came to like that program! Wish I could get it running again.
> 

try "telnet localhost 25", and see what happens.
If you are explicitly ejected, then there is a problem with the
server. Check that it is enabled in /etc/inetd.conf, and that there is
nothing wrong in /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny.

If there is no response, maybe it just canot resolve "localhost" (that
already happend once to me). In this case, check your /etc/hosts. Or try
to "telnet your.local.ip.address 25" and see if it is better. 

HTH
Flupke

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Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-25 Thread ~*Mark*~

flupke wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, ~*Mark*~ wrote:
> 
> > Monte Milanuk wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I haven't had this problem myself (yet), but a few things to try
> > > might be to check your system logs, in case fetchmail is really running
> > > into the firewall, it may leave a trace in the logs.  The only part of
> > > fetchmail that I would think would have problems w/ a firewall would be
> > > the last stage where it feeds it to the MTA (sendmail) on port 25.  But
> > > you said you left that open explicitly.  The other thing to maybe try is
> > > to run fetchmail w/ the ' -vvv' flag for extremely verbose reporting, and
> > > see what it says.
> > >
> > > Monte
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > __
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> > > http://im.yahoo.com
> >
> > Ok...I've done those checks and fetchmail is reporting that it cannot
> > connect with localhost. It's communicating fine with the servers at my
> > ISP and is able to bring down the mail, but it's failing to talk with my
> > machine.
> >
> > I opened and edited pmfirewall.conf and added a line to the local.rules
> > giving access to POP3 port 110 but that didn't make any difference
> > either. Is there some way that I must configure sendmail to allow proper
> > access? Should I set up a POP3 account here on my machine for fetchmail
> > to talk to when it's pulling down the mail from my ISP?
> >
> > I'm perplexed about this cause when I was running Mandrake 7.0 all this
> > worked just fine with no configuration. I didn't start experiencing
> > trouble of any kind till the 7.1 upgrade, and subsequent firewall
> > installation. I'm wondering now if it's the firewall or 7.1 that's
> > causing the trouble. 7.1 can go, but the FW must remain.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> 
> Seems like you should open the smtp (25) port on your firewall.
> Fetchmail transmits the mail from a remote pop3 server to a local smtp
> server.
> 
> HTH
> Flupke
> 
> --
> << There's no place like ~ ! >>

I re-ran the install.sh and made sure that ports 25 and 110 are indeed
open. FM is still not bringing down the mail for use in Pine. I really
came to like that program! Wish I could get it running again.
-- 
Mark

I love my Linux Box!
REASON #1 -- ...it's not Windows!
Registered Linux user #1299563




Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-25 Thread flupke

On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, ~*Mark*~ wrote:

> Monte Milanuk wrote:
> > 
> > Well, I haven't had this problem myself (yet), but a few things to try
> > might be to check your system logs, in case fetchmail is really running
> > into the firewall, it may leave a trace in the logs.  The only part of
> > fetchmail that I would think would have problems w/ a firewall would be
> > the last stage where it feeds it to the MTA (sendmail) on port 25.  But
> > you said you left that open explicitly.  The other thing to maybe try is
> > to run fetchmail w/ the ' -vvv' flag for extremely verbose reporting, and
> > see what it says.
> > 
> > Monte
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> > http://im.yahoo.com
> 
> Ok...I've done those checks and fetchmail is reporting that it cannot
> connect with localhost. It's communicating fine with the servers at my
> ISP and is able to bring down the mail, but it's failing to talk with my
> machine.
> 
> I opened and edited pmfirewall.conf and added a line to the local.rules
> giving access to POP3 port 110 but that didn't make any difference
> either. Is there some way that I must configure sendmail to allow proper
> access? Should I set up a POP3 account here on my machine for fetchmail
> to talk to when it's pulling down the mail from my ISP?
> 
> I'm perplexed about this cause when I was running Mandrake 7.0 all this
> worked just fine with no configuration. I didn't start experiencing
> trouble of any kind till the 7.1 upgrade, and subsequent firewall
> installation. I'm wondering now if it's the firewall or 7.1 that's
> causing the trouble. 7.1 can go, but the FW must remain.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Mark

Seems like you should open the smtp (25) port on your firewall.
Fetchmail transmits the mail from a remote pop3 server to a local smtp
server.

HTH
Flupke

-- 
<< There's no place like ~ ! >>




Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-25 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> I was wondering about something. Ever since I got my firewall up and
> running fetchmail no longer works. It won't connect to my ISP's mail
> server and bring down the mail. I like using Pine for mail, but I can't
> now. I've left the SMPT port open so that I could use that port. Does
> anyone have any ideas or suggestions on the matter?
> 
> thanks in advance,
> 
> Mark

   re -run PMFirewall's install.sh and this time leave 25 and 110
open.  See if that fixes it

 -- 
~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-25 Thread ~*Mark*~

Monte Milanuk wrote:
> 
> Well, I haven't had this problem myself (yet), but a few things to try
> might be to check your system logs, in case fetchmail is really running
> into the firewall, it may leave a trace in the logs.  The only part of
> fetchmail that I would think would have problems w/ a firewall would be
> the last stage where it feeds it to the MTA (sendmail) on port 25.  But
> you said you left that open explicitly.  The other thing to maybe try is
> to run fetchmail w/ the ' -vvv' flag for extremely verbose reporting, and
> see what it says.
> 
> Monte
> 
> --
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> http://im.yahoo.com

Ok...I've done those checks and fetchmail is reporting that it cannot
connect with localhost. It's communicating fine with the servers at my
ISP and is able to bring down the mail, but it's failing to talk with my
machine.

I opened and edited pmfirewall.conf and added a line to the local.rules
giving access to POP3 port 110 but that didn't make any difference
either. Is there some way that I must configure sendmail to allow proper
access? Should I set up a POP3 account here on my machine for fetchmail
to talk to when it's pulling down the mail from my ISP?

I'm perplexed about this cause when I was running Mandrake 7.0 all this
worked just fine with no configuration. I didn't start experiencing
trouble of any kind till the 7.1 upgrade, and subsequent firewall
installation. I'm wondering now if it's the firewall or 7.1 that's
causing the trouble. 7.1 can go, but the FW must remain.

thanks,

Mark




Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-25 Thread Paul

On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, ~*Mark*~ wrote:

>I was wondering about something. Ever since I got my firewall up and
>running fetchmail no longer works. It won't connect to my ISP's mail
>server and bring down the mail. I like using Pine for mail, but I can't
>now. I've left the SMPT port open so that I could use that port. Does
>anyone have any ideas or suggestions on the matter?

Note that you need to have 2 ports open for mail:
SMTP uses 25 and POP uses 110

Paul

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that wash away life's dirt...

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Re: [newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-24 Thread Monte Milanuk

Well, I haven't had this problem myself (yet), but a few things to try
might be to check your system logs, in case fetchmail is really running
into the firewall, it may leave a trace in the logs.  The only part of
fetchmail that I would think would have problems w/ a firewall would be
the last stage where it feeds it to the MTA (sendmail) on port 25.  But
you said you left that open explicitly.  The other thing to maybe try is
to run fetchmail w/ the ' -vvv' flag for extremely verbose reporting, and
see what it says.

Monte

-- 


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com




[newbie] Fetchamil is broken! :(

2000-06-24 Thread ~*Mark*~

I was wondering about something. Ever since I got my firewall up and
running fetchmail no longer works. It won't connect to my ISP's mail
server and bring down the mail. I like using Pine for mail, but I can't
now. I've left the SMPT port open so that I could use that port. Does
anyone have any ideas or suggestions on the matter?

thanks in advance,

Mark