Re: [newbie] Firewal not working...

2004-03-15 Thread Mark Weaver
On Thursday 11 March 2004 04:52 am, rhein wrote:
> Hello,
> I opened port 80 by typing tcp/80 udp/80 in the advanced panel of the
> firewall setup.
> Still no access to the net.
> I removed all the firewall and I can connect again.
> What did I wrong?
> Christophe

Christophe, 

check my reponse to Aron just above this one. It explains a bit more as to 
whats going on.

In brief, if the firewall is turned off, then the inet connections become 
inoperable. When it is turned on things work. Thats a feature and "not" a 
bug. If this is a workstation behind an already configured firewall, then 
just allow everything. If not, then you'll have to configure some sort of 
rudamentary firewall. If you've got no services running other then maybe 
ssh to this machine, then when you turn the firewall on open the ports for 
the service you're running. Thats really all there is to it.

I would suggest reading up on IP Tables a bit so you've got some idea of 
whats going on as opposed to relying solely a GUI config wizard. If you can 
find the packages try installing Bastille on your system. Its probably the 
easiest out there to configure, and once its done you just let it alone.
-- 
Mark

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a man that at one time was an idiot and lived long enough
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Re: [newbie] Firewal not working...

2004-03-15 Thread Mark Weaver
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 04:26 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 March 2004 01:24 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > rhein wrote:
> > > And one more...
> > > I red the instruction to setup a firewall. I use my machine since the
> > > first MDK installation with no firewall.
> > > In my case I had just to remove the "everything" cross and install a
> > > package. No problem until I tried to connect to the net or open a
> > > website. Nothing works.
> > > I go back to the firewall and click in "everything" and I'm back on
> > > the net.
> > > What shall I do?
> > > Is the firewall not just limiting the access to my machine?
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > The firewall is blocking all connections in and out, thereby limiting
> > any internet connection. Only block what you'll never use, or specify
> > ports instead. It happens to be a very good firewall. For instance, I
> > was talking through gAIM once, while playing with the firewall.
> > Suddenly, no communication. Interesting, how well it blocks
> > connections.
>
> For a starter you will need port 80 open for the web
>
> > --Marc

but thats only if you're running a web server. If there's aren't any 
services being run on this machine then it doesn't matter. The firewall has 
to be at least enabled in some fashion in order for the inet connections to 
function correctly. Which is why the poster notices functionality when the 
firewall is turned on, and no functionality when the firewall is turned 
off.

By far the easiest and least troublesome firewall app I've seen and have 
been using now since Mandrake 8.2 is Bastille. I've seen Shorewall, and a 
bunch of the others; and have in fact tried them out. I always came back to 
Bastille. It just works.
-- 
Mark

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a man that at one time was an idiot and lived long enough
to learn from his own stupidity."

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Re: [newbie] Firewal not working...

2004-03-12 Thread Terence Golightly
Cristophe,

Read below:
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 14:59, rhein wrote:
> And one more...
> I red the instruction to setup a firewall. I use my machine since the 
> first MDK installation with no firewall.
> In my case I had just to remove the "everything" cross and install a 
> package. No problem until I tried to connect to the net or open a 
> website. 

First: 


Disclaimer: I'm no expert here,  I just set up my firewall as well. Try
this link below it got me started:

http://www.shorewall.net/

On the introduction page, scroll down to  "Getting started with
Shorewall" Look for a link to a Quick Start Guide HOWTO. Under this link
you will find some 'quickie' setup files.  I had a standalone machine,
so I downloaded the one-interface.tgz file to a temp directory.

You can edit the interfaces file as root and it will show you some
examples of a 'typical' 'rule' to describe your connnection. 

>From a terminal as root:

shorewall stop (provided shorewall is running)

Then copy the files to your /etc/shorewall folder.

%shorewall restart 

Shorewall will restart and read the config files you just copied.


Terry

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Re: [newbie] Firewal not working...

2004-03-11 Thread rhein
Hello,
I opened port 80 by typing tcp/80 udp/80 in the advanced panel of the 
firewall setup.
Still no access to the net.
I removed all the firewall and I can connect again.
What did I wrong?
Christophe

Aron Smith wrote:

On Wednesday 10 March 2004 01:24 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
 

rhein wrote:
   

And one more...
I red the instruction to setup a firewall. I use my machine since the
first MDK installation with no firewall.
In my case I had just to remove the "everything" cross and install a
package. No problem until I tried to connect to the net or open a
website. Nothing works.
I go back to the firewall and click in "everything" and I'm back on
the net.
What shall I do?
Is the firewall not just limiting the access to my machine?
Thanks for your help.
Christophe




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The firewall is blocking all connections in and out, thereby limiting
any internet connection. Only block what you'll never use, or specify
ports instead. It happens to be a very good firewall. For instance, I
was talking through gAIM once, while playing with the firewall.
Suddenly, no communication. Interesting, how well it blocks connections.
   

For a starter you will need port 80 open for the web











 

--Marc
   

 



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[newbie] Firewal not working...

2004-03-10 Thread rhein
And one more...
I red the instruction to setup a firewall. I use my machine since the 
first MDK installation with no firewall.
In my case I had just to remove the "everything" cross and install a 
package. No problem until I tried to connect to the net or open a 
website. Nothing works.
I go back to the firewall and click in "everything" and I'm back on the net.
What shall I do?
Is the firewall not just limiting the access to my machine?
Thanks for your help.
Christophe



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