Re: [newbie] Getting into Linux..

2001-01-26 Thread John Rye



On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:36:47 -0500, Tim Holmes said:

>   When I got through the install, it askes me if I want to use Lilo/GRUB.
>I say yes, goes through and askes what partition the MBR would be on, and
>then does something.  Takes a minute, harddrve light goes off, and then 
>it continues with the last few parts of the install.  Makes me think it's
>done what it's supposed to do.

Sure sounds as if it has setup the boot stuff for the hard disk.
>
>The LS-120 are the _NEW_ floppys that will handle floppy discs that are
>a 100 Mb.  I have no idea why I got it, I was just like "Hmmm sounds like
>a new toy, why not."  I have had no problems with it Windows, it runs 
>over IDE so it's much faster then a legacy floppy.  But the LS-120 is in
>YODA.  And YODA boots with no problem.  

>The machine that I kept getting the GRUB prompt in is R2D2.  I just built that
>machine right before Chrismtas.

I'm losing track here, same LM version on both YODA and R2D2? yes? 
But YODA has LS-120 as a floppy drive. 
Are you able to read and write the LS-120?

>It has a legacy floppy, and it takes like 8 minutes, does not give me any
>errors, and then lets the install go on.  But the floppy has never worked.

Now that makes me wonder.. 
You see the floppy disk led light up at all??  Especially at powerup??
Have you got a faulty floppy cable? 
Is it seated correctly? 
Is the floppy driver faulty?
Got a neighbour who'll let you swap out his/her FDD for an hour or so?

>I was so pissed at one point, I tried to make it a dual boot, to get it to
>work.  In Windows the floppy works, I could create a boot disk and then 
>fdisk /mbr the hard drive.  I haven't tried to make a boot disc in R2D2 
>since I finally got Mandrake installed on it.

But as I understand it's R2D2 with the grub/lilo problem
As you say next para, R2D2 is on the network, can you see it's entire
filesystem?
If so, what's the contend of /boot ? is there a grub subdirectory? What's
in there??

>I'm just glad that R2D2 is on the "network" and is running Linux.  But took
>me almost a month to get Mandrake on there.
>I've tried RedHATE, SuSE,
>Caldera, OpenBSD, TurboLinux (Which hung at a GRUB prompt too.), and Mandrake.

I'm intrigued that another distribution also did this..

>Of all of them I like Mandrake the most.  SuSE had a billion windows managers
>and some kewl looking appz, but was high maint. and didn't really use the same
>architecture.  No slocate to update the locate, not to mention it's a good 
>10-12 GB install!

My experience is Mandrake only, 12 yaers ago it was Sco Xenix on Altos
machines

>I'm thinking it might be my MB.  Never heard of this problem any other time,
>but I don't know exactly how to prove that hypothesis wrong or right.  I mean
>I could gut YODA, put R2D2's hardware in it, and go from there, but that's just
>way too much work!

You may be right about the mobo, but check those cables too, and try the
swapout
of the floppy drives if you can.

I'm echoing this to the list as well seems the reply to: is still broken

cheers

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Re: [newbie] Getting into Linux..

2001-01-22 Thread Chris Hall

Yeah, I have quite a few. Thanks. 
- Original Message - 
From: "David & Julie Matheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting into Linux..


> > Chris Hall wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> >I recently had to reinstall Winblows and it wiped out Grub. How can
> > I get back into linux and set it back up? Thanks!
> 
> Hi Chris
> Simply use your Linux boot Disk you do have one don't u??
> then set up grub again and all should be fine
> 
> 





Re: [newbie] Getting into Linux..

2001-01-22 Thread John Rye


On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:29:22 -0500, Tim Holmes said:

>   When I get a grub prompt it doesn't give me any option to log in 
>as root.  I've tried to su - root several times and I get nothing.
>I just slap in a Winbloze98 floppy in there, and do a fdisk /mbr.
>So how do I log in as root?

Tim, Did you make a boot disk when you installed Linux??

What options does your Grub menu give you??

I'm not familar with Grub but I'm sure there must be a 'failsafe',
'Single user' or similar option for you to try.

Seriously the Linux boot disk is the best option, using a dos boot and
then FDISK /MBR is going to destroy your boot sector in linux terms and
throw you into your Windows system.

If you can get into linux via grub, you should be able to su to root from
your user account and make yourself a boot disk with the following
commandline:

" mkbootdisk `uname -r` " (without the double quotes but WITH the reverse
quotes shown around the uname option)

Give it a try ??

John


>
>
>* Romanator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010122 06:18]:
>> > Chris Hall wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hello,
>> >I recently had to reinstall Winblows and it wiped out Grub. How can
>> > I get back into linux and set it back up? Thanks!
>> 
>> Log in as root. From and command prompt, type in: lilo
>> Press the  key. 
>> Reboot you computer.
>>  
>> Roman
>> Registered Linux User #179293
>> Penguin Charged Email
>
>
>

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Re: [newbie] Getting into Linux..

2001-01-22 Thread Tim Holmes

When I get a grub prompt it doesn't give me any option to log in 
as root.  I've tried to su - root several times and I get nothing.
I just slap in a Winbloze98 floppy in there, and do a fdisk /mbr.
So how do I log in as root?
tdh
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* Romanator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010122 06:18]:
> > Chris Hall wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> >I recently had to reinstall Winblows and it wiped out Grub. How can
> > I get back into linux and set it back up? Thanks!
> 
> Log in as root. From and command prompt, type in: lilo
> Press the  key. 
> Reboot you computer.
>  
> Roman
> Registered Linux User #179293
> Penguin Charged Email




Re: [newbie] Getting into Linux..

2001-01-22 Thread Romanator

> Chris Hall wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>I recently had to reinstall Winblows and it wiped out Grub. How can
> I get back into linux and set it back up? Thanks!

Log in as root. From and command prompt, type in: lilo
Press the  key. 
Reboot you computer.
 
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
Penguin Charged Email




Re: [newbie] Getting into Linux..

2001-01-22 Thread civileme

On Sunday 21 January 2001 04:41, you wrote:
> Getting back in can be done with a boot disk (which hopefully you made
> when asked if you wanted one).  If it were lilo, it would just be a
> matter of running /usr/sbin/lilo.  Try that with grub and see if it
> works for you.  (/usr/sbin/grub)
>
You can also get back in this way:

Put in your install CD#1

at the splash screen hit F1 and type "rescue"

Now we hope you remember which partition on the hard disk that you put the 
filesystem labeled /.  If you don't, then run this

# fdisk /dev/hda
p
q

where # is the system prompt and the other keystrokes are yours.  You will 
then have a look at the partition table--record all partitions where the type 
is "Linux Native"  Lets say for example that your linux native partitions are 
listed as /dev/hda5 /dev/hda7 and /dev/hda9

Do this

# mount /dev/hda5 /mnt
# cd /mnt/etc

If you get an error message that the directory doesn't exist issue this 
command

# umount /dev/hda5
and try the next on your list.

If it changes directory then
# cd /
# chroot /mnt
# /sbin/lilo
# shutdown -r now

And remove your boot CD.

You will be using lilo, but you should be able to change back to grub (both 
stay in sync through drakboot).

Civileme

> > Chris Hall wrote:
> > Hello,
> >I recently had to reinstall Winblows and it wiped out Grub. How can
> > I get back into linux and set it back up? Thanks!




Re: [newbie] Getting into Linux..

2001-01-21 Thread David & Julie Matheson

> Chris Hall wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>I recently had to reinstall Winblows and it wiped out Grub. How can
> I get back into linux and set it back up? Thanks!

Hi Chris
Simply use your Linux boot Disk you do have one don't u??
then set up grub again and all should be fine