[newbie] hard drive thread
Can anyone point me to he hard drive thread we had awhile ago? I've searched the archives, but can't find it. It's the one where everyone piped in with their experiences with hard drives. Thanks, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Hard Drive Activity Indicator on KDE Panel?
Is there such an application that sits in the KDE Panel that shows harddrive activity? Thanks, Sevatio Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 17:45, BJ Tracy wrote: > Hello All, > > Well I finally had to reboot my system because of something I did in the > console and it froze up. On the reboot I was watching the screen and there > was a bunch of hd errors so I went into Mandrake Mount Points and here is > what I found. > > My desktop has three hard drives and I can see all three in Mount Points. > When I loaded MDK 10.0 on my desktop I installed it on my new hard drive and > have been up and running great. > > Here is what I have then I will ask for advice / help. > My new hard drive has / swap and /home on it. > the other two are just journalized ext 3 but not mounted ( I guess is the > term). > > My question is: If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard drive and > choose the partition size and define it what should they be ? > /var another /home . just what I'm not sure. I have all this space and > it's not showing up usable. Partitioning is one thing you must do yourself as far as I am concerned because everybody has different space requirements. One place you can start is by analyzing the space requirements of 9.2 MDK itself. On my system I have a pretty hefty installation, as far as number of total mdk packages installed. The RULE is for the /usr partition is to be at 40% or less usage AFTER you finish a brand new MDK install. Why? Because as your installation grows you want plenty of room for the upgrade/bugfix packages and more brand new packages. Through trial and error over the years I have found that 40% usage at installation time on the /usr partition pretty much covers all bases until the next upgrade. What is that size, you ask? Well I have a pretty loaded install and for me that means the /usr partition is 4.6 gigs total. The only other partitions you have to worry about as far as size goes are /var and /home. I don't do separate /var and /home partitions because the file lifetimes on those partitions are very similar (and I don't put a large number of separate hard drives in my box). One main criterion for separation of partitions is file lifetimes; the more files change, the higher the probability of filesystem failure or corruption. Therefore file groups with high rates of change are historically grouped on their own partitions, such as /tmp. For that reason I symlink /home to /var/home, and during partitioning the lion's share of the drive space is always allocated to /var. (var also has a habit of being extremely variable in size, which is another important reason to give it the lions share of the space along with /var/home. That way your logs will never cause the system to outstrip it's available space on /var. Another advantage of doing a /home-/var/home symlink setup.) The current 9.2 MDK partition size requirements as I have determined them are as follows: root = not more than 540 megs boot = exactly 43 megs(JFS and XFS filesystems require at least this much, which is overkill) tmp = not more than 1.2 gig (depending on if you use it for downloading or not. If you download stuff to other spots, 1.2G is more than enough) usr = not more than 4.6 gigs as long as your default install is at or below 40% usage of /usr. In other words at 40% usage my /usr is 1.7 gigs of program/other data. Your usage at the end of making your installation choices may be more; the only way to know is to install and look. I myself always do manual selections (on EVERYTHING) with no group selections except for "kde workstation" and "documentation"; and then use the floppy save feature of the package install step to save what I have selected. Then on the next install I just deselect all group selections, select individual selections, and then load the floppy save from the previous installation. This is a real fast way to pick your packages, but it does require that you go through a total individual selection install at least once. It also requires that you know what you like and use and what you don't like and don't use. Floppy-style package selection during installation just plain takes pre-preparation. That in turn requires a little time and experience with the distro, and ALOT of reading of the package descriptions at installation time. > > Also do I need a swap on all three drives? Short answer: NO, you technically do not need swap on all three drives. HOWEVER...*supposedly* if the kernel sees that you have multiple swap on several drives, then (according to the docs) it will "stripe" it's swap across those three drives. This means a three-fold swap performance increase, because you now have three drives doing the work of one. I personally don't depend on the kernel doing swap; I've got two identical drives raided together into raid-0 partitions, and I've soft-raided the swap partition myself at raid-0. That way I know for a fact that the swap is raided. The other way I can't "see" what the kernel is doing with swap for sure, but if I do swap with soft
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:23:11 -0400 BJ Tracy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not sure of you mount scheme either. > Can you call a partition anything you want and assign it to part 1 thru 12 ? People's mount schemes are based on their personal needs & experience. I think these schemes have been debated back and forth for some time now :). But essentially you can name the partition anything you want, with the following caveats: 1) You can only have 4 primary partitions on a hard drive, so this basically means that partition 4 is an "extended partition" containing the rest of the available partitions. That's why yuo don't see a 'part4' listed, it's the extended partition. 2) the names chosen should be meaningful, because they are mounted onto the main tree (in other words, / ) by the mount command. In other words, sver on partition 7 (using his example) there are files starting with "home" - every file "underneath" home is located on that partition. When he mounts "home", all directory requests "/home/somethingorother" just get routed to that particular partition. The main reasons for doing this is flexibility and to have more space available. And, you don't need a swap partition on each drive, but balancing them across multiple drives may prove beneficial. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Issues
On Monday 30 August 2004 14:16, BJ Tracy wrote: > On Monday 30 August 2004 01:23 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > On Monday 30 August 2004 11:53, BJ Tracy wrote: > > > > I would reboot after restore though the experts would likely > > say you dont have to but for peace of mind I would. If you > > used mccbackup then using mccrestore should be ok. I have > > only had to restore 1 file from backup and it worked ok, > > but someone else should answer that question. > > SNIP > So can you restore single files at a time using Mandrake > Control Center ? If so since my system is running great now, > can I restore everything but system files ? > bj If you select configure->system->backup->restore You will be presented with several optione, Search for files to restore, Restore all backups, Custom restore, Restore from catalog. System files are the /etc directory and Custom restore I believe gives you that option, just deselect, or do not select, restore system. -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Friday 27 August 2004 16:26, BJ Tracy wrote: > Hello All, > > Thanks Hoyt for responding to my questions. > > Not sure if you are going to see my responses, I tried to respond > and Kmail went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself > the second time. > > What is up with that ?? I have never had any problems with > Kmail. > > Can anyone help,,, is this a bug or what. > > Thanks again Hoyt, let me know if you get my other questions > Regards to all, > bj Sorry I didnt feel well yesterday so I gave up early. I think I had some good luck as to kmail when I switched from kernel-2.6.3.15 to 2.3.6.16 a bugfix possibly dating back a ways. -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Friday 27 August 2004 16:23, BJ Tracy wrote: > On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > SNIP > Thanks Hoyt but I'm still a little confused. From your response you > have one large hard drive ( I think that is what I see ). Yes. > > I have three large hard drives - I is perfect and the other two well > not sure. If not sure means not mounted then likely they have not been defined in Mount Point. > > My question is: If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard drive > and choose the partition size and define it what should they be ? > /var another /home . just what I'm not sure. I have all this > space and it's not showing up usable. Do not make duplicate partitions(two with the same name). > > Do I need a swap file on all three hard drives? No. > > > > Also do I need a swap on all three drives? > > > > > > I have gone thru all my books and the net and nothing really > > > talks about multiple hard drives. > > > > > > I'm really confused now on what to do. > > > Thanks for all your help in advance, > > > bj > > SNIP > Hoyt, > Are you using the DiskDrake tool to do this? The reason I'm askin is > that /music is not an option neither is /backup. > I'm not sure of you mount scheme either. If you use Mount Point to define your part's then they will be mounted. > Can you call a partition anything you want and assign it to part 1 If you delete all parts and start with all three disks clean then hda should be the first disk and the first part can be called anything you want normally '/boot' or '/' but anything you want. Windows even. > thru 12 ? Let mount point worry about the part # it knows more about that than you and I both put together. You might want to put a swap near the begining for easy and more rapid access. > > > I went through this exercise a while ago and got a lot of > > suggestions from which I developed a scheme. It proved to be > > somewhat too generous and if I had to do it again I would set > > things closer to the used col. I am not going to give any advice > > but will because I am sending you my df. Alter it to your needs: > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 > > 2.9G 123M 2.7G 5% / > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12 > >18G 4.7G 12G 28% /backup > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 > >66M 11M 53M 17% /boot > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 > >20G 3.6G 15G 20% /home > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 > >34G 26G 5.9G 82% /music > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 > > 7.7G 406M 7.0G 6% /tmp > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 > >20G 5.9G 13G 33% /usr > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 > > 9.5G 207M 8.8G 3% /var > > I have installed everything that looked interesting so in my case > > reseting the part's to used would be sufficient. -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Friday 27 August 2004 16:22, BJ Tracy wrote: > On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > Snip > Thanks Hoyt, I'm still a little confused. By reading your > partitions you have one large hard drive. I have Three (3) and one > is working great. Yes one 120GB. > > > > Here is what I have then I will ask for advice / help. > > > My new hard drive has / swap and /home on it. > > Snip > Did you use DiskDrake to partition your hard drive?? The options > /backup and /music are not in my options OR can I call them anything > I want and assign them to /part 1 thru 12 as needed ??? You can forget about them if you want they are what I use and your drives should reflect your use. And yes I used Diskdrake(mount point) during the installation to paritition the drive which will allow you to do all three of your drives just remember to format all drives and all partitions, (also you will have an option to check for bad blocks. This takes about an hour for my drive) but if you dont know or have some reason to suspect any drive its a good idea. Also IIRC you are not limited to 12 partitions I seem to remember 24 per extended partition(could be incorrect). > > > > My question is: If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard > > > drive and choose the partition size and define it what should > > > they be ? Anything you want them to be misc1, misc2, keep1, keep2, in my case I used backup. You can see in mount point the directories that the system wants after you use all of them it dosent matter as long as you define them they will be mounted. > > /var ?? another /home ? ?. just what I'm not sure. I have all > this space and it's not showing up usable. > Snip >? ? Do I need a swap on all three drives ? ? No although I have been advised by some to put a swap at the beginning and at the end of the partitions. > > > > I have gone thru all my books and the net and nothing really > > > talks about multiple hard drives. > > There is really nothing out there for multiple hard drives. > Snip > > > > I'm really confused now on what to do. > > > Thanks for all your help in advance, > > > bj > > Snip > This is helpful . Do you have just one large hard drive ? Yes. > > > > Alter it to your needs: > > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 > > 2.9G 123M 2.7G 5% / > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12 > >18G 4.7G 12G 28% /backup > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 > >66M 11M 53M 17% /boot > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 > >20G 3.6G 15G 20% /home > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 > >34G 26G 5.9G 82% /music > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 > > 7.7G 406M 7.0G 6% /tmp > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 > >20G 5.9G 13G 33% /usr > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 > > 9.5G 207M 8.8G 3% /var > > I have installed everything that looked interesting so in my case > > reseting the part's to used would be sufficient. > > Thanks again. > Sorry Still confused > bj -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 27 August 2004 15:44:03, cdrack wrote: Nice answer. Not entirely accurate but nice. > Hi BJ. > > In my opinion the size of each partition are given > acord the use you intent to give and of course the > size of youre disk. i.e. Close enough within limits. > if you have let's say a 80 Gb Hdd. then if youre > computer is just for personal usage... the Mandrake > Linux Normal instalation will use a partition named > "/" wich is the root of the operative system... (don't > get confused about the root user, that's another > thing). so into this partition can be alocated all > the other directories that the system needs like > "home", "var", "usr" "tmp". But the main reason to > create partitions for this directories is to limit the > size of each one to an especific maximun size. .i.e. Possibly not the best idea to hang system variables (/var) and /usr off the / partition. I definitely wouldn't put /tmp there. / is the "trunk of the tree" for the entire system. > / = 20 GB > /Home = 40 GB (because is the home of each user and > have to hold the user's documents like music, imgs, > etc.) Home can be that large if you routinely have large files (ISOs) or large ogg or mp3 collections or audio visual (aka movies) files stored there. If you set a /multimedia partition of appropriate size on one of the other drives /home doesn't need to be that big. But don't forget your e-mail and other things. My ~.Mail directory for K-Mail is at 470 MB and growing. My bookmark file is fairly large too. > /swap = recomended 2x RAM Memory, let's say you have a > 512 DDRAM dim, so create a 1 GB swap partition. OK this has as many answers as there are Linux users and the only correct answer is "set a large enough swap." You define enough by the intended usage and the available physical memory, granted. But if you're manipulating large files, like video, you need as much as you can accommodate without compromising anything else. The 2x or 2.5x recommendation is usually OK. Not always needed though. This system has 512 MB of DDR at the moment. It will have 768 MB again tomorrow and the swap file is 800 MB. Why? 'Cause I set it that way just for the hell of it. > /tmp = 5 GB 's But if you have or may have sometime in the future a "dual layer" DVD burner and use it routinely that isn't enough. The burning apps use /tmp and the dual layer disk images will be larger than that. I hate coasters, especially at the price of *that* media. 1.5x up to 2x the size of the largest file you may manipulate or edit is my own rule of thumb and it hasn't bitten me on the ass yet. > and that's all ... there are no especific size or > directive that any of the prior directories must be > partitions on youre hard drive, but is easier to > mantain in case of dissasters or even back up > operations. i.e. > > If for any reason you have to reinstall youre Linux > box and you created separated partitions to hold "/" > and "/home" then you just have to format the "/" > partition and youre documents will be safe on the > other partition and ready to use after youre > instalation. > > Cdrack. > No argument really. Won't always be so obvious when upgrading to the next version of the OS but... My own (for the moment) table on this box with the 2 drives that I have plugged back in so far: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nanook]$ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 789M 122M 667M 16% / /dev/hdb1 29G 18G 11G 64% /archive /dev/hda10 23G 11G 13G 46% /dump /dev/hda8 5.9G 2.2G 3.7G 38% /home /dev/hdb5 28G 22G 6.8G 76% /store /dev/hda9 2.0G 3.7M 2.0G 1% /tmp /dev/hda6 3.9G 1.7G 2.3G 43% /usr /dev/hda7 2.0G 328M 1.7G 17% /var That table changes almost as often as the weather in Edmonton. It's just what's here now, by morning it will be different/more complex/more and larger drives etc. BJ, read the following until one of the _smart_ regulars shows up to give you *good* advice: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/4269/1/ Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.6.8.1-4mdk 19:20:39 up 19:05, 1 user, load average: 0.60, 0.29, 0.16 Whistler's mother is off her rocker. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBL+NsZqvqlrLPr5YRAr3XAJ9EwJfrSUQtDsIfbwiV4WHNsmCjCQCeIBi5 L/YONxsfb/8Vrc6hIDOhxZc= =Xgfr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Friday 27 August 2004 03:45 pm, charlie wrote: | On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:26 am, BJ Tracy wrote: | > Hello All, | > | > Thanks Hoyt for responding to my questions. | > | > Not sure if you are going to see my responses, I tried to respond and | > Kmail went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself the second | > time. Rebooted? I think it may not be kmail--you may have a hardware problem. Something about kmail may be accessing a specific part of your hd, or using a specific amount of cpu or memory, or ethernet, and that is the cause of the crash. The reason I say this, a few years ago, sometimes when I tried to transfer files from-or-to one of the computers on my network I would get a spontaneous reboot. Now, the weird part is, more than one computer was doing this, but one specific computer was always involved (either it would reboot or the one being transferred to or from would reboot). After a couple of months of pulling my hair out, I changed the network card in that machine and the problem went away! | > | > What is up with that ?? I have never had any problems with Kmail. Well, any problem I've ever had was cured by deleting my /home/username/.kde and logging back in. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Friday 27 August 2004 04:22 pm, BJ Tracy wrote: > On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > Snip > Thanks Hoyt, I'm still a little confused. By reading your partitions you > have one large hard drive. I have Three (3) and one is working great. > > > > Here is what I have then I will ask for advice / help. > > > My new hard drive has / swap and /home on it. > > Snip > Did you use DiskDrake to partition your hard drive?? The options /backup > and /music are not in my options OR can I call them anything I want and > assign them to /part 1 thru 12 as needed ??? > > > > My question is: If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard drive > > > and choose the partition size and define it what should they be ? > > /var ?? another /home ? ?. just what I'm not sure. I have all this > space and it's not showing up usable. > Snip >? ? Do I need a swap on all three drives ? ? > > > > I have gone thru all my books and the net and nothing really talks > > > about multiple hard drives. > > There is really nothing out there for multiple hard drives. > Snip > > > > I'm really confused now on what to do. > > > Thanks for all your help in advance, > > > bj > > Snip > This is helpful . Do you have just one large hard drive ? > > > > Alter it to your needs: > > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 > > 2.9G 123M 2.7G 5% / > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12 > >18G 4.7G 12G 28% /backup > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 > >66M 11M 53M 17% /boot > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 > >20G 3.6G 15G 20% /home > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 > >34G 26G 5.9G 82% /music > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 > > 7.7G 406M 7.0G 6% /tmp > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 > >20G 5.9G 13G 33% /usr > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 > > 9.5G 207M 8.8G 3% /var > > I have installed everything that looked interesting so in my case > > reseting the part's to used would be sufficient. > > Thanks again. > Sorry Still confused > bj bj, I have three harddrives they are set up so that / , /usr , /var , /tmp and swap are on one drive. Then I have a second drive that is /home and a third drive as /home1 The first drive above is hda and the primary master, /home is primary slave and /home1 is secondary master. It should not matter what you set up as partitions as long as / and or boot is on the primary master drive. All the rest can go where you want to put it . HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:26 am, BJ Tracy wrote: > Hello All, > > Thanks Hoyt for responding to my questions. > > Not sure if you are going to see my responses, I tried to respond and > Kmail went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself the second > time. > > What is up with that ?? I have never had any problems with Kmail. > > Can anyone help,,, is this a bug or what. > > Thanks again Hoyt, let me know if you get my other questions > Regards to all, > bj I'm not certain that you're allowed to use on this list, unless referring to something m$ -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- In three words I can sum up everything I've learnt about life. It goes on. ...Robert Frost ___ This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 10, KMail 1.6.1 and of course OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
Hi BJ. In my opinion the size of each partition are given acord the use you intent to give and of course the size of youre disk. i.e. if you have let's say a 80 Gb Hdd. then if youre computer is just for personal usage... the Mandrake Linux Normal instalation will use a partition named "/" wich is the root of the operative system... (don't get confused about the root user, that's another thing). so into this partition can be alocated all the other directories that the system needs like "home", "var", "usr" "tmp". But the main reason to create partitions for this directories is to limit the size of each one to an especific maximun size. .i.e. / = 20 GB /Home = 40 GB (because is the home of each user and have to hold the user's documents like music, imgs, etc.) /swap = recomended 2x RAM Memory, let's say you have a 512 DDRAM dim, so create a 1 GB swap partition. /tmp = 5 GB 's and that's all ... there are no especific size or directive that any of the prior directories must be partitions on youre hard drive, but is easier to mantain in case of dissasters or even back up operations. i.e. If for any reason you have to reinstall youre Linux box and you created separated partitions to hold "/" and "/home" then you just have to format the "/" partition and youre documents will be safe on the other partition and ready to use after youre instalation. Cdrack. --- BJ Tracy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey > wrote: > SNIP > Thanks Hoyt but I'm still a little confused. From > your response you have one > large hard drive ( I think that is what I see ). > > I have three large hard drives - I is perfect and > the other two well not sure. > > My question is: If I go into Mount Points and go > to each hard drive > and choose the partition size and define it what > should they be ? > /var another /home . just what I'm not sure. I > have all this > space and it's not showing up usable. > > Do I need a swap file on all three hard drives? > > > Also do I need a swap on all three drives? > > > > > > I have gone thru all my books and the net and > nothing really talks > > > about multiple hard drives. > > > > > > I'm really confused now on what to do. > > > Thanks for all your help in advance, > > > bj > SNIP > Hoyt, > Are you using the DiskDrake tool to do this? The > reason I'm askin is > that /music is not an option neither is /backup. > I'm not sure of you mount scheme either. > Can you call a partition anything you want and > assign it to part 1 thru 12 ? > > I went through this exercise a while ago and got a > lot of suggestions > > from which I developed a scheme. It proved to be > somewhat too generous > > and if I had to do it again I would set things > closer to the used col. > > I am not going to give any advice but will because > I am sending you my > > df. Alter it to your needs: > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% > Mounted on > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 > > 2.9G 123M 2.7G 5% / > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12 > >18G 4.7G 12G 28% > /backup > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 > >66M 11M 53M 17% /boot > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 > >20G 3.6G 15G 20% /home > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 > >34G 26G 5.9G 82% /music > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 > > 7.7G 406M 7.0G 6% /tmp > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 > >20G 5.9G 13G 33% /usr > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 > > 9.5G 207M 8.8G 3% /var > > I have installed everything that looked > interesting so in my case > > reseting the part's to used would be sufficient. > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
Hello All, Thanks Hoyt for responding to my questions. Not sure if you are going to see my responses, I tried to respond and Kmail went nuts and crashed the first time and rebooted itself the second time. What is up with that ?? I have never had any problems with Kmail. Can anyone help,,, is this a bug or what. Thanks again Hoyt, let me know if you get my other questions Regards to all, bj Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: SNIP Thanks Hoyt but I'm still a little confused. From your response you have one large hard drive ( I think that is what I see ). I have three large hard drives - I is perfect and the other two well not sure. My question is: If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard drive and choose the partition size and define it what should they be ? /var another /home . just what I'm not sure. I have all this space and it's not showing up usable. Do I need a swap file on all three hard drives? > > Also do I need a swap on all three drives? > > > > I have gone thru all my books and the net and nothing really talks > > about multiple hard drives. > > > > I'm really confused now on what to do. > > Thanks for all your help in advance, > > bj SNIP Hoyt, Are you using the DiskDrake tool to do this? The reason I'm askin is that /music is not an option neither is /backup. I'm not sure of you mount scheme either. Can you call a partition anything you want and assign it to part 1 thru 12 ? > I went through this exercise a while ago and got a lot of suggestions > from which I developed a scheme. It proved to be somewhat too generous > and if I had to do it again I would set things closer to the used col. > I am not going to give any advice but will because I am sending you my > df. Alter it to your needs: > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 > 2.9G 123M 2.7G 5% / > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12 >18G 4.7G 12G 28% /backup > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 >66M 11M 53M 17% /boot > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 >20G 3.6G 15G 20% /home > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 >34G 26G 5.9G 82% /music > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 > 7.7G 406M 7.0G 6% /tmp > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 >20G 5.9G 13G 33% /usr > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 > 9.5G 207M 8.8G 3% /var > I have installed everything that looked interesting so in my case > reseting the part's to used would be sufficient. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:58 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Snip Thanks Hoyt, I'm still a little confused. By reading your partitions you have one large hard drive. I have Three (3) and one is working great. > > Here is what I have then I will ask for advice / help. > > My new hard drive has / swap and /home on it. Snip Did you use DiskDrake to partition your hard drive?? The options /backup and /music are not in my options OR can I call them anything I want and assign them to /part 1 thru 12 as needed ??? > > My question is: If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard drive > > and choose the partition size and define it what should they be ? /var ?? another /home ? ?. just what I'm not sure. I have all this space and it's not showing up usable. Snip ? ? Do I need a swap on all three drives ? ? > > > > I have gone thru all my books and the net and nothing really talks > > about multiple hard drives. There is really nothing out there for multiple hard drives. Snip > > I'm really confused now on what to do. > > Thanks for all your help in advance, > > bj Snip This is helpful . Do you have just one large hard drive ? > > Alter it to your needs: > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 > 2.9G 123M 2.7G 5% / > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12 >18G 4.7G 12G 28% /backup > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 >66M 11M 53M 17% /boot > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 >20G 3.6G 15G 20% /home > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 >34G 26G 5.9G 82% /music > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 > 7.7G 406M 7.0G 6% /tmp > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 >20G 5.9G 13G 33% /usr > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 > 9.5G 207M 8.8G 3% /var > I have installed everything that looked interesting so in my case > reseting the part's to used would be sufficient. Thanks again. Sorry Still confused bj Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Question
On Thursday 26 August 2004 16:45, BJ Tracy wrote: > Hello All, > > Well I finally had to reboot my system because of something I did in > the console and it froze up. On the reboot I was watching the screen > and there was a bunch of hd errors so I went into Mandrake Mount > Points and here is what I found. > > My desktop has three hard drives and I can see all three in Mount > Points. When I loaded MDK 10.0 on my desktop I installed it on my new > hard drive and have been up and running great. > > Here is what I have then I will ask for advice / help. > My new hard drive has / swap and /home on it. > the other two are just journalized ext 3 but not mounted ( I guess is > the term). > > My question is: If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard drive > and choose the partition size and define it what should they be ? > /var another /home . just what I'm not sure. I have all this > space and it's not showing up usable. > > Also do I need a swap on all three drives? > > I have gone thru all my books and the net and nothing really talks > about multiple hard drives. > > I'm really confused now on what to do. > Thanks for all your help in advance, > bj I went through this exercise a while ago and got a lot of suggestions from which I developed a scheme. It proved to be somewhat too generous and if I had to do it again I would set things closer to the used col. I am not going to give any advice but will because I am sending you my df. Alter it to your needs: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 2.9G 123M 2.7G 5% / /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part12 18G 4.7G 12G 28% /backup /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 66M 11M 53M 17% /boot /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 20G 3.6G 15G 20% /home /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 34G 26G 5.9G 82% /music /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 7.7G 406M 7.0G 6% /tmp /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 20G 5.9G 13G 33% /usr /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part11 9.5G 207M 8.8G 3% /var I have installed everything that looked interesting so in my case reseting the part's to used would be sufficient. -- Regards: Hoyt Registered Linux User # 363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Hard Drive Question
Hello All, Well I finally had to reboot my system because of something I did in the console and it froze up. On the reboot I was watching the screen and there was a bunch of hd errors so I went into Mandrake Mount Points and here is what I found. My desktop has three hard drives and I can see all three in Mount Points. When I loaded MDK 10.0 on my desktop I installed it on my new hard drive and have been up and running great. Here is what I have then I will ask for advice / help. My new hard drive has / swap and /home on it. the other two are just journalized ext 3 but not mounted ( I guess is the term). My question is: If I go into Mount Points and go to each hard drive and choose the partition size and define it what should they be ? /var another /home . just what I'm not sure. I have all this space and it's not showing up usable. Also do I need a swap on all three drives? I have gone thru all my books and the net and nothing really talks about multiple hard drives. I'm really confused now on what to do. Thanks for all your help in advance, bj Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up? (Solved)
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 2:16 pm, Keith Powell wrote: > My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own > caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose. > > A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a couple > of days ago whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to boot, > then stopped with the error message: > > Partition Check: > hda: <4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21 > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting > > the hard drive activity light was permanently on. > Stephen said that caddies sometimes go flakey, so: I put the "faulty" hard drive into a different caddy and a good hard drive into the caddy the "faulty" drive had been using. Everything now works, so it appeared to have been a caddy/drive connection problem. I will investigate this further. Also, I will put the drives back into their original caddies and see what happens. Thanks to all who have made suggestions. They are all noted for possible future use. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up?
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 02:35, Keith Powell wrote: > Hello Stephen. > > I am afraid that I haven't access to another machine in which to try it. > > The other drives work in their caddies, so I can't suspect the IDE cable could > be faulty just for this one drive - could it? However, you have given me an > idea! In case it is a caddy fault, I will try the "faulty" drive in one of > the other caddies which I know to be OK. > > I will also try the drive upside down. If I can get it working again, it will > save me about £50 for a new drive. > > Many thanks for your help > > Keith I have witnessed those caddies getting flakey in the past... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- 88. Management says... --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up?
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 3:37 pm, Marc wrote: > On Sunday 18 April 2004 08:16 am, Keith Powell wrote: > > I know this isn't strictly Mandrake, so apologies. > > > > My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own > > caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose. > > > > A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a > > couple of days ago whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to > > boot, then stopped with the error message: > > > > Partition Check: > > hda: <4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21 > > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > > hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting > > > > the hard drive activity light was permanently on. > > > > This error message means nothing to me. > > > > I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would > > install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it > > wouldn't. > > > > I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that > > everything was OK. > > > > I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The > > drive still can't be used. > > > > Googling brings up nothing of apparent use. > > > > Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away? > > >Been there done that. There are 2 different Maxtor diagnostic utilitys, > maxblast and and powermax. Powermax is far more usefull. have you used it? > Have you tried a low leval format. I had a problem with a maxtor drive > where that was the only thing that would help. There is a low level format > utility in powermax. > >Hope that helps > > Marc Thanks for the reply, Marc. It was Powermax which I used. I went through all the tests, including the full low level format. Powermax found nothing wrong. That's why I can't think what the problem could be. I will try another low level format and see what happens. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up?
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 2:59 pm, Brian Parish wrote: > On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 23:16, Keith Powell wrote: > > > > My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own > > caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose. > > > > A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a > > couple of days ago whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to > > boot, then stopped with the error message: > > > > Partition Check: > > hda: <4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21 > > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > > hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting > > > > the hard drive activity light was permanently on. > > > > This error message means nothing to me. > > > > I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would > > install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it > > wouldn't. > > > > I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that > > everything was OK. > > > > I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The > > drive still can't be used. > > > > Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away? > > > > You'll have more potential to diagnose the problem by attempting to > mount it from a running system than by trying to install onto it. Can > you connect it as a second drive and try diskdrake on it? > > HTH > Brian Hello Brian. I could mount it as a second drive, but as it would mean quite a lot of work (I don't have a second drive installed) I will try the other suggestions first. Thanks for the suggestion. Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up?
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 3:41 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 23:16, Keith Powell wrote: > > My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own > > caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose. > > > > A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a > > couple of days ago whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to > > boot, then stopped with the error message: > > > > Partition Check: > > hda: <4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21 > > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > > hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting > > > > the hard drive activity light was permanently on. > > > > This error message means nothing to me. > > > > I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would > > install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it > > wouldn't. > > > > I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that > > everything was OK. > > > > I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The > > drive still can't be used. > > > > Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away? > > > > Have you tried the HD in another machine? Have you tried with a > different IDE cable? Have you tried with the drive installed upside > down? (not a joke) > > stephen kuhn - owner Hello Stephen. I am afraid that I haven't access to another machine in which to try it. The other drives work in their caddies, so I can't suspect the IDE cable could be faulty just for this one drive - could it? However, you have given me an idea! In case it is a caddy fault, I will try the "faulty" drive in one of the other caddies which I know to be OK. I will also try the drive upside down. If I can get it working again, it will save me about £50 for a new drive. Many thanks for your help Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up?
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 23:16, Keith Powell wrote: > I know this isn't strictly Mandrake, so apologies. > > My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own > caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose. > > A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a couple of > days ago whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to boot, then > stopped with the error message: > > Partition Check: > hda: <4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21 > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting > > the hard drive activity light was permanently on. > > This error message means nothing to me. > > I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would > install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it > wouldn't. > > I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that > everything was OK. > > I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The > drive still can't be used. > > Googling brings up nothing of apparent use. > > Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away? > > Any ideas will be gratefully received. > > Many thanks > > Keith Have you tried the HD in another machine? Have you tried with a different IDE cable? Have you tried with the drive installed upside down? (not a joke) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Win98 is called Win98 because 98% of all hardware components will need driver updates. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up?
On Sunday 18 April 2004 08:16 am, Keith Powell wrote: > I know this isn't strictly Mandrake, so apologies. > > My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own > caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose. > > A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a couple > of days ago whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to boot, > then stopped with the error message: > > Partition Check: > hda: <4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21 > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting > > the hard drive activity light was permanently on. > > This error message means nothing to me. > > I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would > install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it > wouldn't. > > I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that > everything was OK. > > I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The > drive still can't be used. > > Googling brings up nothing of apparent use. > > Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away? > > Any ideas will be gratefully received. > > Many thanks > > Keith Been there done that. There are 2 different Maxtor diagnostic utilitys, maxblast and and powermax. Powermax is far more usefull. have you used it? Have you tried a low leval format. I had a problem with a maxtor drive where that was the only thing that would help. There is a low level format utility in powermax. Hope that helps Marc -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and Windows free computer using Mandrake Linux 10.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up?
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 23:16, Keith Powell wrote: > I know this isn't strictly Mandrake, so apologies. > > My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own > caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose. > > A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a couple of > days ago whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to boot, then > stopped with the error message: > > Partition Check: > hda: <4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21 > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > hda: timeout waiting for DMA > hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting > > the hard drive activity light was permanently on. > > This error message means nothing to me. > > I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would > install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it > wouldn't. > > I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that > everything was OK. > > I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The > drive still can't be used. > > Googling brings up nothing of apparent use. > > Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away? > > Any ideas will be gratefully received. > > Many thanks > > Keith > You'll have more potential to diagnose the problem by attempting to mount it from a running system than by trying to install onto it. Can you connect it as a second drive and try diskdrake on it? HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Hard drive packed up?
I know this isn't strictly Mandrake, so apologies. My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose. A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a couple of days ago whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to boot, then stopped with the error message: Partition Check: hda: <4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21 hda: timeout waiting for DMA hda: timeout waiting for DMA hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting the hard drive activity light was permanently on. This error message means nothing to me. I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it wouldn't. I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that everything was OK. I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The drive still can't be used. Googling brings up nothing of apparent use. Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away? Any ideas will be gratefully received. Many thanks Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Configuration
At 01:29 AM 7/9/2003 -0400, you wrote: Hey Again, Are there any particular issues with them that I should be aware of? Any help would be much appreciated. A last thought which is only vaguely relevant to the list is: what Windows OS should I run for gaming? I have always run 98SE but have heard XPPro runs better. If I get eaten alive for even asking a Windows question I won't blame you, just curious what your experiences have been. Thanks again! Isaac XP is good if you don't mind learning to turn off some intrusive crap. W98 sucks ...is crashprone. W2K Pro is ok and alittle harder to config than xp. Can this exist on a single HDD: Yes. Its far easier now a days to do so. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Configuration
On Wednesday 09 July 2003 01:29 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A last thought which is only vaguely > relevant to the list is: what Windows OS should I run for gaming? I have > always run 98SE but have heard XPPro runs better. If I get eaten alive for > even asking a Windows question I won't blame you, just curious what your > experiences have been. Thanks again! > the only thing i could input to that would be based on the amount of RAM you want to run while gaming, as win98 just won't work with over 512mb of ram, however XP doesn't care. games kill resources (as i'm sure you already know) so the more the better for gaming. i'm using win98 and when i bumped the system from 320mb to 768mb of ram, i had to go into msconfig and tell it to not use more than 512mb of ram. i actually went and knocked that down later to 448, because it just still didn't seem happy at 512mb. before i knocked it down, however, i was having problem after problem after problem just trying to do basic stuff. has microsoft addressed this problem? yes...their answer if you want to use more than 512mb of ram.go buy one of their "better" OS versions. at least they were human enough to put a patch out there to allow larger than 30gb hard drives, as when i installed my 100gb hard drive, it took forever before i got the patch from them. fdisk would only show a 30gb capacity on a brand new never used 100gb hard drive. i guess they're willing to "help" resolve some issues and unwilling to resolve others w/out making you buy a better version. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Configuration
> Just install windows first then install linux. shouldn't be a problem at all. > > i think i'm right...correct me if i'm wrong (or verify if i'm right!) Yes you are right, Windows first then Linux, and keep a bootdisc for Linux in case you have to reinstall Windows so you can rerun Lilo /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
On Saturday June 21 2003 06:16 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > I've used a separate /boot since civileme recommended doin > > so quite a while ago if your other partitions are journalized > > fs's. He said to use ext2 or ext3 for /boot, specially with XFS > > or ReisersFS / and other partitions. So I do, particularly > > since civileme's specialty was HDD, fs's and partition QA. > Hmmm...funny - I'm even using ReiserFS on my /boot partition... Well, you can try seaching the newbie archive, it was about two years ago. I also use ReiserFS for all partitions, and I didn't have a separate /boot. When I mentioned a few minor gremlins (sorry, don't remember what they were), that's when civileme advised to use a separate /boot and make it ext2 or 3, when using journaling FS's. You might consider doin the same next time you install. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
> On Saturday June 21 2003 09:46 am, eric huff wrote: >> A! If i were, theoretically, wanting to just reformat /boot, and >> rebuild it, how would i do that? >> >> I had this exact need last weekend... > > Disclaimer: I've never done this! But I believe you could do > an install with the first CD, choosing only to reformat /boot. > >Why did you want to reformat /boot? If it was just a matter of > links and files you messed up in /boot, I believe I'd just use I had resized the ntfs partition (which worked) but managed to screw up the next one (/boot) to where it was corrupted. Tried fscking, but couldn't fix it. Then tried reinstalling and only formatting /boot, but i still had problems. Looking back, though, i think it may have actually been a video problem. For some reason, i often have to fiddle with video config before i get it to work right. If i ever install again and have problems, i will spend some time comparing the X config file. Anyway, i got to do a new fresh install, and in the end have more space (because i only installed my favorite progs this time) and better partition organization... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 00:03, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Saturday June 21 2003 12:21 am, eric huff wrote: > > I'm still trying to figure out if /boot should be seperate, but > > here is an example of mine: > > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/hda6 621M 86M 535M 14% / > > /dev/hda5 172M 6.4M 157M 4% /boot > > I've used a separate /boot since civileme recommended doin so > quite a while ago if your other partitions are journalized fs's. He > said to use ext2 or ext3 for /boot, specially with XFS or ReisersFS > / and other partitions. So I do, particularly since civileme's > specialty was HDD, fs's and partition QA. > > I've found it handy at install time too. I run cooker and have > a lot of kernels in /boot. Havin 'em in a separate partition gives > me the option to keep 'em, or go ahead and reformat /boot to clear > it out when various cooker iso's start comin out. Mines 46MB, and > over 20mb is used. Most people would only need about a 20mb /boot. Hmmm...funny - I'm even using ReiserFS on my /boot partition... I still like "spreading it out" and load balancing - so putting the SWAP and /tmp on different physical drives is always a good thing for getting the most out of a system...(IF you've got more than one drive to play with) -- Sun Jun 22 09:10:00 EST 2003 09:10:00 up 18:20, 5 users, load average: 1.87, 1.92, 2.17 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "What is the Nature of God?" CLICK...CLICK...WHIRRR...CLICK...=BEEP!= 1 QT. SOUR CREAM 1 TSP. SAUERKRAUT 1/2 CUT CHIVES. STIR AND SPRINKLE WITH BACON BITS. "I've just GOT to start labeling my software..." -- Bloom County Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
On Saturday June 21 2003 09:46 am, eric huff wrote: > A! If i were, theoretically, wanting to just reformat /boot, > and rebuild it, how would i do that? > > I had this exact need last weekend... Disclaimer: I've never done this! But I believe you could do an install with the first CD, choosing only to reformat /boot. Why did you want to reformat /boot? If it was just a matter of links and files you messed up in /boot, I believe I'd just use 'rpm -ivh --force kernel...mdk...rpm' to replace the kernel links, files, and packages for the kernel you want, but is already installed. Reboot. Even tho there might be nothin wrong with the kernel, this will fix /boot and get the links properly pointing again. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
A! If i were, theoretically, wanting to just reformat /boot, and rebuild it, how would i do that? I had this exact need last weekend... eric On Saturday 21 June 2003 07:03 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Saturday June 21 2003 12:21 am, eric huff wrote: > > I'm still trying to figure out if /boot should be seperate, but > > here is an example of mine: > > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/hda6 621M 86M 535M 14% / > > /dev/hda5 172M 6.4M 157M 4% /boot > > I've used a separate /boot since civileme recommended doin > so quite a while ago if your other partitions are journalized > fs's. He said to use ext2 or ext3 for /boot, specially with XFS > or ReisersFS / and other partitions. So I do, particularly since > civileme's specialty was HDD, fs's and partition QA. > > I've found it handy at install time too. I run cooker and > have a lot of kernels in /boot. Havin 'em in a separate partition > gives me the option to keep 'em, or go ahead and reformat /boot > to clear it out when various cooker iso's start comin out. Mines > 46MB, and over 20mb is used. Most people would only need about a > 20mb /boot. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive partition sizes
On Saturday June 21 2003 12:21 am, eric huff wrote: > I'm still trying to figure out if /boot should be seperate, but > here is an example of mine: > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda6 621M 86M 535M 14% / > /dev/hda5 172M 6.4M 157M 4% /boot I've used a separate /boot since civileme recommended doin so quite a while ago if your other partitions are journalized fs's. He said to use ext2 or ext3 for /boot, specially with XFS or ReisersFS / and other partitions. So I do, particularly since civileme's specialty was HDD, fs's and partition QA. I've found it handy at install time too. I run cooker and have a lot of kernels in /boot. Havin 'em in a separate partition gives me the option to keep 'em, or go ahead and reformat /boot to clear it out when various cooker iso's start comin out. Mines 46MB, and over 20mb is used. Most people would only need about a 20mb /boot. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive
> Using /dev/hdxhow can I tell what is on what > drive? Depends greatly on how your system is partitioned. The simplest answer: if your linux is all on one partition then all your files (linux files) are on that drive. You could have other files on other drives, if you run another OS on that drive/partition. If this is not the case, type 'mount' and see what partitions are mounted where. You might see an output like this: /dev/hdb7 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) none on /dev type devfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620) /dev/hdb1 on /home type reiserfs (rw,notail) none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) none on /mnt/floppy type supermount (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hdb5 on /usr/local type reiserfs (rw,notail) /dev/hda1 on /var type ext2 (rw) /dev/hdb6 on /var/spool type reiserfs (rw,notail) If you ignore the 'noen' entries and just concentrate on the 'dev' entries then it lets you know that (in my instance) I have / on the 7th partition of /dev/hdb (second drive). / is the beginning of the file tree, so everything is on that parition unless part of the tree is mounted somewhere else. Here, I have /home on /dev/hdb1, the first partition of the second drive. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive
On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 08:27, Paul Dimitriu wrote: > Using /dev/hdxhow can I tell what is on what > drive? > > In other words, I want to know what files / > directories are on that specific drive? Is the drive mounted? If not, then create a directory under /mnt (mkdir /mnt/nameofharddrive) ...and mount it (mount /dev/hdx /mnt/nameofharddrive) ...then you can open a file manager and browse as you wish... -- Sat Mar 15 09:10:00 EST 2003 09:10:00 up 1:05, 4 users, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** alta, v:To change; make or become different; modify. ansa, v:A spoken or written reply, as to a question. baa, n: A place people meet to have a few drinks. Baaston, n: The capital of Massachusetts. baaba, n: One whose business is to cut or trim hair or beards. beea, n:An alcoholic beverage brewed from malt and hops, often found in baas. caaa, n:An automobile. centa, n: A point around which something revolves; axis. (Or someone involved with the Knicks.) chouda, n: A thick seafood soup, often in a milk base. dada, n:Information, esp. information organized for analysis or computation. -- Massachewsetts Unabridged Dictionary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive
In reply to Paul's mail, d.d. Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:27:35 -0800 (PST): >Using /dev/hdxhow can I tell what is on what >drive? > >In other words, I want to know what files / >directories are on that specific drive? Check /etc/fstab, or run 'mount' to see what partition is linked to what mountpoint. If e.g. /home is on a separate partition like /dev/hda2 you can be sure that all files on /home are on /dev/hda2, and so on. Only trick could be symlinks, they can point to another partition. Paul -- To have what we want, is riches; but to be able to do without, is power. -George Macdonald http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Hard Drive
Using /dev/hdxhow can I tell what is on what drive? In other words, I want to know what files / directories are on that specific drive? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hard drive space
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 17:48, Colin Jenkins wrote: > Hi all, > just finished installing mdk9 on a gigabyte m/b with 40Gb Maxtor > drive. When I check with kdiskfree or Gnome system monitor, the total > size is about 18Gb short. All partitions except /var/www appear > correct. > If I check partition sizes with webmin, it reports the correct size > for /var/www (size 3567780 kB / Free 3356252 kB) > but in kdsiskfree, it's much smaller (can't remember the exact size > 'cause the box is at work) > Any thoughts? > > -- > regards, > Colin Keep in mind that kdiskfree isn't going to report the swap partition; but you can open up a term window and type: df -h ...to get better stats... ...so the total partition size for MDK is going to be the combination between the /boot, the / and the SWAP...(unless you've setup other partitions as well for MDK) ...that could be where you're miscalculating... -- Tue Dec 10 18:05:01 EST 2002 6:05pm up 1 day, 21:50, 6 users, load average: 1.59, 1.46, 1.21 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;"""/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn The hatred of relatives is the most violent. -- Tacitus (c.55 - c.117) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
Ron Bouwhuis wrote: >--- John Richard Smith ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>I once took the problem up with two harddrive >>manufacturers, as to why >>you get >>two different sizes for the same drive , depending >>upon which machine >>you put it in, >>and indeed why the manufacturers size measurements >>always are greater >>than that >>which your system says there is. >> >>The answer appears to be that indeed there are more >>than one way of >>calculating >>sizes. Apparently , there is no industry wide >>standard, it all depends >>upon the formular >>used to calculate it. Now this explanation may be >>false , but I have >>noticed different >>machines do calculate the size of a known hard >>drive slightly >>differently, which tends to >>suggest that this may be true. At any rate , in the >>absense of a better >>explanation >>I have come to accept it. >> >>John >> >> >> >John, > >Check out >http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html - which >IMHO describes a madness that I hope will never reach >the real world (I mean, really, can you imagine >actually saying "mebibyte" or "gibibyte"???). >However, it does explain one major area of confusion >(and opportunity for deceipt) - namely that for a >drive labelled, say as 20GB, what exactly does the "G" >mean? In the old (real) world of IT, "G" means 2 ** >30. However, to a manufacturer following SI units, >"G" means 10 ** 9, which is a lot smaller! > >Ron. > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs >http://www.hotjobs.com > > > > > > Oh dear me, what a nightmare. No wonder, it's a mess, just a sample of this carnage:- Once upon a time, computer professionals noticed that 2^10 was very nearly equal to 1000 and started using the SI prefix "kilo" to mean 1024. That worked well enough for a decade or two because everybody who talked kilobytes knew that the term implied 1024 bytes. But, almost overnight a much more numerous "everybody" bought computers, and the trade computer professionals needed to talk to physicists and engineers and even to ordinary people, most of whom know that a kilometer is 1000 meters and a kilogram is 1000 grams. Then data storage for gigabytes, and even terabytes, became practical, and the storage devices were not constructed on binary trees, which meant that, for many practical purposes, binary arithmetic was less convenient than decimal arithmetic. The result is that today "everybody" does not "know" what a megabyte is. When discussing computer memory, most manufacturers use megabyte to mean 2^20 = 1 048 576 bytes, but the manufacturers of computer storage devices usually use the term to mean 1 000 000 bytes. Some designers of local area networks have used megabit per second to mean 1 048 576 bit/s, but all telecommunications engineers use it to mean 10^6 bit/s. And if two definitions of the megabyte are not enough, a third megabyte of 1 024 000 bytes is the megabyte used to format the familiar 90 mm (3 1/2 inch), "1.44 MB" diskette. The confusion is real, as is the potential for incompatibility in standards and in implemented systems. And that is just a sample. So really the whole computer industry needs better standardization, but there is noone around with the authority to set standards maybe ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
--- John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I once took the problem up with two harddrive > manufacturers, as to why > you get > two different sizes for the same drive , depending > upon which machine > you put it in, > and indeed why the manufacturers size measurements > always are greater > than that > which your system says there is. > > The answer appears to be that indeed there are more > than one way of > calculating > sizes. Apparently , there is no industry wide > standard, it all depends > upon the formular > used to calculate it. Now this explanation may be > false , but I have > noticed different > machines do calculate the size of a known hard > drive slightly > differently, which tends to > suggest that this may be true. At any rate , in the > absense of a better > explanation > I have come to accept it. > > John > John, Check out http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html - which IMHO describes a madness that I hope will never reach the real world (I mean, really, can you imagine actually saying "mebibyte" or "gibibyte"???). However, it does explain one major area of confusion (and opportunity for deceipt) - namely that for a drive labelled, say as 20GB, what exactly does the "G" mean? In the old (real) world of IT, "G" means 2 ** 30. However, to a manufacturer following SI units, "G" means 10 ** 9, which is a lot smaller! Ron. __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 05:09:52 +1200, Sharrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:08, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > > IBM drives made in the year or so have had major reliability problems. In > > fact, IBM are trying to get out of the business by selling most (70%) of > > their hard drive unit to Hitachi. Quantum Bigfoots have had reliability > > problems as well. I am on my third 12GB Bigfoot TX after the first two > > died on me. Fortunately, this one seems to be doing very well. The > > Seagate Barracuda IV is, I believe, a reliable drive. I have 2 80GB > > models in one machine and I've had no trouble. > > Yes, in the last six months I've read many complaints and horror stories > about IBM drives so it came as no surprise to me when my IBM drive died. > I've had no problem with my old Quantum tho (touch wood). I've only had > the Seagate approx. 4 months and so far so good - jeez its so quiet I keep > checking the light to see if its doing anything! Yeah, I do the same for my two Seagate drives. I have them configured into a RAID0, so every read or write operation is done to both drives at once. Even with both drives going, I can't hear them over the system fans. > > What are your hard drive BIOS settings? > > Both drives set to Auto Detection in BIOS which shows: > Seagate (/dev/hda) CHS=28733/16/255 Size=600025 MB > Quantum (/dev/hdb) CHS=13446/15/63 Size=6506 MB > > > Is LBA turned on? > > How do you turn LBA on? I have "lba32" (without the quotes) in lilo.conf if > thats what you mean. There should be an LBA option in the BIOS. > > What you should do is go to the Seagate and IBM Web sites and download > > their drive diagnostic utilities. They will hopefully be able to analyse > > the drives and tell you what's wrong. > > I went to the Seagate web site but their diagnostic utility only runs in > Windoze which I'm pleased to say does not exist on this PC. My 2nd PC will > have Mandrake and Windoze when my new hard drive arrives - I've just > ordered an 80GB Seagate Barracuda IV. The Seagate diagnostic utility downloads as a Windows executable that is used to make a boot disc. You can make the boot disc on any Windows machine, and it should work on any system. IIRC, the IBM Feature tool works in the same way. > > In addition, the IBM Feature Tool > > can turn off Automatic Acoustic Management (AAM) on the Seagate drive, > > giving you better drive performance (hdparm can do this as well, but I'm > > not sure if that setting remains after a reboot) . > > I'll check that out. Is the drive still so quiet when AAM is turned off? My ears can't tell the difference either way. > Also, may I ask what your model and settings are for your 80GB Seagate > drives so that I might have some idea when my new one arrives? According to hdparm: model = ST380021A CHS = 16383/16/63 LBA is on -- Sridhar Dhanapalan " An ordinary frog goes "ribbit, ribbit" and a budfrog goes "bud ,,, Weis... Er", but a winfrog goes "reboot, reboot, reboot" " -- Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
Hi, >> Is LBA turned on? > How do you turn LBA on? I have "lba32" (without the quotes) in > lilo.conf if thats what you mean. Sridhar meant the setting in the BIOS. Try changing it from AUTO to LBA. >> In addition, the IBM Feature Tool >> can turn off Automatic Acoustic Management (AAM) on the Seagate drive, >> giving you better drive performance (hdparm can do this as well, but I'm >> not sure if that setting remains after a reboot) . > I'll check that out. Is the drive still so quiet when AAM is turned off? Almost. That's the point of Acoustic management - to make it quiter at the expense of some performance. AFAIK the drive seeks will be a bit louder. -- HTH Roman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
> Sharrea wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > couldn't resist :) > > I don't understand why BIOS, hdparm and fdisk all report different > > geometries. Also, as a result RedHat 7.3 can't read the partn table for > > hda so I can't install without wiping the drive clean. Any help would be > > much appreciated. > > > > For now I'll try booting with a dos floppy and doing "fdisk /mbr" then > > rebooting with Mandrake boot disk and running lilo - just in case the lilo > > upgrades caused this problem - a long shot I know. > > > > Sharrea > > -- > > The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better" so I installed Linux. > > > > Sounds like bad sectors. Probably (IF thats the case) its a dying > drive. RMA or chuck it. Not your fault. And fwiw, BIOSes, other OSes, > etc all read HDD geom. very differently. Hell theres a few threads on > this in the archives. I know, i wrote a whole little diatribe on it > myself. so did Ed Tharp et al. > -- > Femme > > Good Decisions You boss Made: > > "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that > character from Peanuts." > > - Source: Dilbert > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 15:08, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > IBM drives made in the year or so have had major reliability problems. In > fact, IBM are trying to get out of the business by selling most (70%) of > their hard drive unit to Hitachi. Quantum Bigfoots have had reliability > problems as well. I am on my third 12GB Bigfoot TX after the first two > died on me. Fortunately, this one seems to be doing very well. The > Seagate Barracuda IV is, I believe, a reliable drive. I have 2 80GB > models in one machine and I've had no trouble. Yes, in the last six months I've read many complaints and horror stories about IBM drives so it came as no surprise to me when my IBM drive died. I've had no problem with my old Quantum tho (touch wood). I've only had the Seagate approx. 4 months and so far so good - jeez its so quiet I keep checking the light to see if its doing anything! > What are your hard drive BIOS settings? Both drives set to Auto Detection in BIOS which shows: Seagate (/dev/hda) CHS=28733/16/255 Size=600025 MB Quantum (/dev/hdb) CHS=13446/15/63 Size=6506 MB > Is LBA turned on? How do you turn LBA on? I have "lba32" (without the quotes) in lilo.conf if thats what you mean. > What you should do is go to the Seagate and IBM Web sites and download > their drive diagnostic utilities. They will hopefully be able to analyse > the drives and tell you what's wrong. I went to the Seagate web site but their diagnostic utility only runs in Windoze which I'm pleased to say does not exist on this PC. My 2nd PC will have Mandrake and Windoze when my new hard drive arrives - I've just ordered an 80GB Seagate Barracuda IV. > In addition, the IBM Feature Tool > can turn off Automatic Acoustic Management (AAM) on the Seagate drive, > giving you better drive performance (hdparm can do this as well, but I'm > not sure if that setting remains after a reboot) . I'll check that out. Is the drive still so quiet when AAM is turned off? Also, may I ask what your model and settings are for your 80GB Seagate drives so that I might have some idea when my new one arrives? Thanks for your input Sridhar. I'll go check out the IBM Feature Tool now. Cheers Sharrea -- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better" so I installed Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 13:08, et wrote: > On Sunday 18 August 2002 07:26 pm, you wrote: > > After my sh*tty IBM Deskstar drive dying on me last week, I'm wondering > > whether it was thru my own doing so can someone please help me > > determine what the correct parameter for my hard drives are. I have > > two hard drives: 60GB Seagate Barracuda IV and 6.4GB Quantum Bigfoot. > > > > I'm using Mandrake Cooker and lilo-22.3.2-5 gives the following warning > > (I've been getting warnings about differing geometries with the last 3 > > or 4 versions of lilo, including on the now-dead IBM Deskstar) : > > Sharrea > > now was one of these drives (my guess the seagate) in a computer that had > a bios that could not see a drive as big as this? maybe when brand new? > and has since gotten ether an new motherboard or a BIOS upgrade? and was > setup with the manufacturers setup disk? maybe backup first, then a > fooling around with diskdrake from the install CD is in your future. > maybe a newdrive is also in your future, but not as likely unless you > feel like spending the cash. Sounds like you're onto something there! The drive that is now a paper-weight (I'm going to take it apart to see whats inside to satisfy my curiosity) is the 60GB IBM Deskstar which only lasted 18 months! Yes, it came with the IBM Drive Manager installed on it which I originally used when installing Windoze 98SE. IIRC, I later formatted the drive and removed the Drive Manager only to find that the BIOS did not recognise the full capacity. I did a BIOS flash upgrade but it still didn't recognise full capacity so I installed the Ontrack Dynamic Drive Overlay to be able to utilise the full 60GB. Next came the PC upgrade (new case, mobo, cpu, ram, etc) and I transferred the drive to that PC. Then last year when I first started using linux, Civileme said that I should remove the DDO and use the hd geometries from hdparm. I messed around with that trying every possible thing I could think of but Mandrake could only see the 30GB (same in the BIOS) so I had no choice BUT to use the DDO. I tried all that again about a month ago but it was a waste of time. Then we had a wicked power outage a few weeks ago which fried part of the drive - it affected one of the RedHat (dual booting with Mandrake) partitions. I continued to use the drive knowing it was only a matter of time before it was completely stuffed - it was making loud screeching noises whenever that part of the drive was accessed. And finally I decided to use the Seagate drive in my main PC so switched drives, removed all partitions, created new partitions and formatted (on both drives). The IBM drive didn't complete the formatting process (not that I expected it to) so I turned the computer off. When I turned it back on: nada, nothing but screech... screech... Never did like that stupid drive anyway, especially having to use the DDO and it was noisy. And would you believe I paid NZ$1109 (approx US$550) for it 18 months ago! So I'm just a bit worried about lilo's warnings of differing geometries and wondering why BIOS, hdparm and fdisk all use different geometries on the Seagate and Quantum. Jeez this has turned into long rant. Thanks for your input. Cheers Sharrea -- The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better" so I installed Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
Hi, >> Sharrea wrote: >> > I don't understand why BIOS, hdparm and fdisk all report different >> > geometries. Also, as a result RedHat 7.3 can't read the partn table for >> > hda so I can't install without wiping the drive clean. Any help would be >> > much appreciated. > I can't recite the details, but a disk can be formatted with different > geometries. (I don't know if that was what I meant to say.) > Try again: In some programs (fdisk, partition commnder, bios ) I > have seen more than one geometry reported for the same hard disk. (AHH, > IIRC, it was in the bios.) Although there was a mechanism to choose any > one of them, if I chose the wrong one the disk was unreadable. > Maybe someone else can provide more insight on this. AFAIK the different reports are normal - the disk can be accessed in many ways. If it is a 1GB+ disk you only should make sure that in BIOS the access method is set to LBA, in no way NORMAL or LARGE. You can make check that at the screen right after after the memory check - the sort of table with CPU and disk info before it says "loading grub" or "loading lilo". Before info about your capacity there should be LBA. My friend's P3 800 had his 30GB disk set to LARGE and it screwed up the whole partition table when I tried to install MDK 8.2 (said something about sector 633GB conflicting with some 800GB sector... oh well). -- HTH Roman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
> Sharrea wrote: > > I don't understand why BIOS, hdparm and fdisk all report different > > geometries. Also, as a result RedHat 7.3 can't read the partn table for > > hda so I can't install without wiping the drive clean. Any help would be > > much appreciated. I can't recite the details, but a disk can be formatted with different geometries. (I don't know if that was what I meant to say.) Try again: In some programs (fdisk, partition commnder, bios ) I have seen more than one geometry reported for the same hard disk. (AHH, IIRC, it was in the bios.) Although there was a mechanism to choose any one of them, if I chose the wrong one the disk was unreadable. Maybe someone else can provide more insight on this. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
Sharrea wrote: > > Hi all > I don't understand why BIOS, hdparm and fdisk all report different > geometries. Also, as a result RedHat 7.3 can't read the partn table for > hda so I can't install without wiping the drive clean. Any help would be > much appreciated. > > For now I'll try booting with a dos floppy and doing "fdisk /mbr" then > rebooting with Mandrake boot disk and running lilo - just in case the lilo > upgrades caused this problem - a long shot I know. > > Sharrea > -- > The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better" so I installed Linux. > Sounds like bad sectors. Probably (IF thats the case) its a dying drive. RMA or chuck it. Not your fault. And fwiw, BIOSes, other OSes, etc all read HDD geom. very differently. Hell theres a few threads on this in the archives. I know, i wrote a whole little diatribe on it myself. so did Ed Tharp et al. -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
Hi all
First, I apologise for the looong post but I think it may all be relevant.
After my sh*tty IBM Deskstar drive dying on me last week, I'm wondering
whether it was thru my own doing so can someone please help me determine
what the correct parameter for my hard drives are. I have two hard drives:
60GB Seagate Barracuda IV and 6.4GB Quantum Bigfoot.
I'm using Mandrake Cooker and lilo-22.3.2-5 gives the following warning
(I've been getting warnings about differing geometries with the last 3 or 4
versions of lilo, including on the now-dead IBM Deskstar) :
# /sbin/lilo
Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80
fn 08: 1024 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors
fn 48: 28733 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors
Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x81
fn 08: 790 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors
fn 48: 13446 cylinders, 15 heads, 63 sectors
Warning: 'menu-scheme' not supported by boot loader
Added failsafe
Added floppy
Added Mandrake *
I have both drives on auto detection in my BIOS settings which both show the
correct drive size.
BIOS Seagate /dev/hda:
Auto CHS=28733/16/255 Size=600025 MB
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
Model=ST360021A, FwRev=7.18, SerialNo=3HV0QF9N
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs RotSpdTol>.5% }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=117231408
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2
AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: device does not report version: 1 2 3 4 5
# fdisk /dev/hda
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 7297.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems...
Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 7297 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
==
BIOS Quantum /dev/hdb:
Auto CHS=13446/15/63 Size=6506 MB
# hdparm -i /dev/hdb
Model=QUANTUM BIGFOOT_CY6480A, FwRev=A03.0500, SerialNo=166703029317
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>5Mbs TrkOff }
RawCHS=13446/15/63, TrkSize=32256, SectSize=512, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=67kB, MaxMultSect=32, MultSect=32
CurCHS=13446/15/63, CurSects=12706470, LBA=yes, LBAsects=12706470
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:333,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: sdma0 sdma1 sdma2 mdma0 mdma1 *mdma2
AdvancedPM=no
# fdisk /dev/hdb
Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 790 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
===
I don't understand why BIOS, hdparm and fdisk all report different
geometries. Also, as a result RedHat 7.3 can't read the partn table for
hda so I can't install without wiping the drive clean. Any help would be
much appreciated.
For now I'll try booting with a dos floppy and doing "fdisk /mbr" then
rebooting with Mandrake boot disk and running lilo - just in case the lilo
upgrades caused this problem - a long shot I know.
Sharrea
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Re: [newbie] hard drive performance
On Saturday 11 May 2002 13:43, Michael Kovary opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: > I've been using hdparm to set my hard drive speed, and it's been working > pretty well. This is the command I use: hdparm -c1 -d1 -m16 /dev/hda > > Everything goes fine, and it tells me that the I/O is 32 bit, whenever I > restart it's set back to 16 bit, I know this from running idetool. Is > there something I need to add to LILO to keep this setting at boot? from mandrake user.org: "Once you've found a suitable setting, execute the 'hdparm' command again, adding the 'k' option. This will preserve your settings beyond the current session." hope that helps -- "It is increasingly obvious that our techknowledgy is outpacing our humanity." -Einstein shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] hard drive performance
I've been using hdparm to set my hard drive speed, and it's been working pretty well. This is the command I use: hdparm -c1 -d1 -m16 /dev/hda Everything goes fine, and it tells me that the I/O is 32 bit, whenever I restart it's set back to 16 bit, I know this from running idetool. Is there something I need to add to LILO to keep this setting at boot?
Re: [newbie] Hard drive readers...
Gerald Waugh wrote: > Not sure about an RPM or what, but there is general support in Linux for > these small drives, > There not actually hard drives (magnetic media) they are solid state drives > (semiconductor). > Search on http://www.google/linux for the technology you require. Thanks, I'll try that. -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive readers...
On Friday 26 April 2002 10:03 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > Does Mandrake support the new, removable small sized (card) hard drives? I > don't have one, but a friend was asking if they did... > Not sure about an RPM or what, but there is general support in Linux for these small drives, There not actually hard drives (magnetic media) they are solid state drives (semiconductor). Search on http://www.google/linux for the technology you require. -- Gerald Waugh : Registered Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com Front Street Networks LLC - ph. 203.785.0699 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, United States of America 10:46am up 36 days, 18:13, 3 users, load average: 0.87, 1.04, 1.16 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Hard drive readers...
Does Mandrake support the new, removable small sized (card) hard drives? I don't have one, but a friend was asking if they did... Thanks! -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive
Paul Kraus wrote: > > How do you access another Partion? I have a fat32 windows partion that I > have been saving linux apps on when I was running windows? How do I get > to the drive to find the files? > > Paul Kraus Hi Paul. If its your only Windog partition, then you can get there in several ways. cd /mnt/windows will take you there. (assuming this is what your setup calls it). You can also back up from a standard KDE or Gnome window until you get to /, then go into /mnt, and then into /windows, if you want the graphical stuff, so you can just drag n' drop. Hope this helps! ;-) -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Hard Drive
mount -t fat32 /dev/hda3 /mnt/C Obviously, change hda3 to whatever device is your windows partion. You can get a clue by looking at the boot messages (dmesg | less). > -Original Message- > From: Paul Kraus [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:23 PM > To: Newbie > Subject: [newbie] Hard Drive > > How do you access another Partion? I have a fat32 windows partion that I > have been saving linux apps on when I was running windows? How do I get > to the drive to find the files? > > Paul Kraus > > > > << File: message.footer >> ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life & Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive
Mandrake will automagically mount your windows partition as /mnt/windows derek On Tuesday 22 January 2002 17:23, Paul Kraus wrote: > How do you access another Partion? I have a fat32 windows partion that I > have been saving linux apps on when I was running windows? How do I get > to the drive to find the files? > > Paul Kraus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive
Es Dimarts 22 Gener 2002 18:23, en Paul Kraus va escriure: > How do you access another Partion? I have a fat32 windows partion that I > have been saving linux apps on when I was running windows? How do I get > to the drive to find the files? > > Paul Kraus You can use diskdrake to help you set the mounting directory; select the partition you want to be able to access to and set it to be mounted on startup at, for instance, /mnt/linuxprograms -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain Yahoo & AOL quini2k ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Hard Drive
How do you access another Partion? I have a fat32 windows partion that I have been saving linux apps on when I was running windows? How do I get to the drive to find the files? Paul Kraus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Hard drive results with KT266A
hi all, I have recently been asking about how to get the hard disk perforamce back up when using an unrecognised mainboard like the KT266A, (this is on Mdk 7.2) I was only getting 3.5 mb/sec with the default settings.. since drakopt doesn't work on 7.2 (needs a 2.4 kernel) I tried using hdparm manually, enabled DMA and 32bit and got the following results.. Buffer cache: 261.22 MB/sec Buffered: 38.10 MB/sec so its as fast as it was before again, except now it has a newer board, and upgraded from a 1.4 Athlon, to a athlonXP1800+ much nicer,, will be interesting to see if I can get 8.1 to install on it,, I may have to put the hard disk on another PC, install linux and then swap it back,, that remains to be seen... rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] hard drive recognition
Does the second hard-drive mount OK? Is it formatted as a FAT(32) drive or EXT2/Reiser? Do you have an entry for it in /etc/fstab? Steve Flynn NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst * 01603 687386 -Original Message- From: Joe Brault [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 11:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] hard drive recognition Hello again, I apologize for posting this again, but I became extremely busy after I first posted this topic, and I misplaced all emails pertaining to it... so here goes: I am having problems getting my second hard drive to be recognized in Linux Mandrake 8.0. I have a 15GB Maxtor drive (primary drive) and a 40GB Maxtor drive (secondary drive). My drive can bee seen in the linux explorer, but it shows up with a 'default' type of name, and I cannot see any files on it... I'm wondering how to 'install' this drive in Linux so I can access my files already on the drive? My system specs are below. Thanks for any help, and feel free to email me personally if you wish. Thanks! PIII 667Mhz 256mb Ram Creative CDRW 8x4x32 drive Creative 52x Drive 1.44mb floppy drive Sound Blaster Live! Platinum card and drive bay NE2k compatible ethernet card vodoo 3 3500 TV AGP graphics card Dual boot operating systems: win98 on 7GB partition and LM8.0 on 8GB partition. -- | Have you petted your penguin today? :) | | Registered Linux user #183248 | -- _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp << File: message.footer >> ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life & Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Hard drive recognition (2nd post)
I posted this before, but got no responses so I thought i'd post it again. Thanks for any help :) Hello again, I apologize for posting this again, but I became extremely busy after I first posted this topic, and I misplaced all emails pertaining to it... so here goes: I am having problems getting my second hard drive to be recognized in Linux Mandrake 8.0. I have a 15GB Maxtor drive (primary drive) and a 40GB Maxtor drive (secondary drive). My drive can bee seen in the linux explorer, but it shows up with a 'default' type of name, and I cannot see any files on it... I'm wondering how to 'install' this drive in Linux so I can access my files already on the drive? My system specs are below. Thanks for any help, and feel free to email me personally if you wish. Thanks! PIII 667Mhz 256mb Ram Creative CDRW 8x4x32 drive Creative 52x Drive 1.44mb floppy drive Sound Blaster Live! Platinum card and drive bay NE2k compatible ethernet card vodoo 3 3500 TV AGP graphics card Dual boot operating systems: win98 on 7GB partition and LM8.0 on 8GB partition. -- | Have you petted your penguin today? :) | | Registered Linux user #183248 | -- _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Hard drive optimisation errors..
Thankyou Kindly Mr Civilme...:-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme Sent: Friday, 24 August 2001 2:26 PM To: Franki; NEWBIE Mandrake List Subject: Re: [newbie] Hard drive optimisation errors.. On Thursday 23 August 2001 11:18, Franki wrote: > Hi all, > > In an effort to increase the speed of my hard drives, particularly the one > with the swap on it.. > > I did these hdparm commands: > > hdparm -a 8 -d 0 -r 0 -u 0 -m 32 -c 1 -A 1 -K 0 -P 0 -X 12 -W 1 -S 0 > /dev/hda > hdparm -a 8 -d 0 -r 0 -u 0 -m 32 -c 1 -A 1 -K 0 -P 0 -X 12 -W 1 -S 0 > /dev/hdb > > Nothing fancy, just PIO mode 4, 32bit i/o,, stuff like that.. > > > > MainBoard, Intel FX Ppro > Hard Disks.. > > hda Maxtor 84200A8 > > hdb Seagate ST51080A > > In the results, I got a couple of errors... Here they are... > > > > HDIO_SET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument > > HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setprefetch) failed: Input/output error > > Here is the full results of the hdparm commands. > > > > /dev/hda: > setting fs readahead to 8 > setting 32-bit I/O support flag to 1 > setting multcount to 32 > HDIO_SET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument > setting readonly to 0 (off) > setting unmaskirq to 0 (off) > setting using_dma to 0 (off) > setting drive keep features to 0 (off) > setting drive prefetch to 0 > HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setprefetch) failed: Input/output error > setting xfermode to 12 (PIO flow control mode4) > setting drive read-lookahead to 1 (on) > setting drive write-caching to 1 (on) > setting standby to 0 (off) > multcount= 16 (on) > I/O support = 1 (32-bit) > unmaskirq= 0 (off) > using_dma= 0 (off) > readonly = 0 (off) > readahead= 8 (on) > > /dev/hdb: > setting fs readahead to 8 > setting 32-bit I/O support flag to 1 > setting multcount to 32 > setting readonly to 0 (off) > setting unmaskirq to 0 (off) > setting using_dma to 0 (off) > setting drive keep features to 0 (off) > setting drive prefetch to 0 > HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setprefetch) failed: Input/output error > setting xfermode to 12 (PIO flow control mode4) > setting drive read-lookahead to 1 (on) > setting drive write-caching to 1 (on) > setting standby to 0 (off) > multcount= 32 (on) > I/O support = 1 (32-bit) > unmaskirq= 0 (off) > using_dma= 0 (off) > readonly = 0 (off) > readahead= 8 (on) > > Can anyone tell me what they (the errors) mean?? > > > Also, can I get it any better with that hardware? > > > > rgds > > Frank the 32 on one drive was above the maximum multcount it would support hdparm -i /dev/hdx to get capabilities The prefetch setting is not supported by many drive/chipset combos, or it is set differently depending on zone density of data on the drive. So the errors mean you cannot do what you tried to with that set of commands, only most of it. It is not obvious that multcount set very high really helps--it is wise to step through a few settings and use hdparm -t three times at each one, paying attention only to the last of the three tests. Civileme Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive optimisation errors..
On Thursday 23 August 2001 10:18 am, Franki escribió: > In an effort to increase the speed of my hard drives, particularly > the one with the swap on it.. > I did these hdparm commands: > hdparm -a 8 -d 0 -r 0 -u 0 -m 32 -c 1 -A 1 -K 0 -P 0 -X 12 -W 1 -S 0 > /dev/hda > hdparm -a 8 -d 0 -r 0 -u 0 -m 32 -c 1 -A 1 -K 0 -P 0 -X 12 -W 1 -S 0 > /dev/hdb > Nothing fancy, just PIO mode 4, 32bit i/o,, stuff like that.. Looks awfully fancy to me ;> Usually somethin as simple as -c1 (to enable 32 bit) and -d1 (to enable DMA) is the optimum. See 'info hadparm' for the whole story, including which options it can be dangerous to fool with. Also 'hdparm -i' will give you many clues as to the maximum settings for that particular HDD. BUT, every version of Mandrake 8.x I've installed has automagically optimized my HDD's. No need to run hdparm or put the settings in rc.local anymore. BTW, any udma mode would be better than pio4 if the drive is dma capable. hdparm -i will tell you that too. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive optimisation errors..
On Thursday 23 August 2001 11:18, Franki wrote: > Hi all, > > In an effort to increase the speed of my hard drives, particularly the one > with the swap on it.. > > I did these hdparm commands: > > hdparm -a 8 -d 0 -r 0 -u 0 -m 32 -c 1 -A 1 -K 0 -P 0 -X 12 -W 1 -S 0 > /dev/hda > hdparm -a 8 -d 0 -r 0 -u 0 -m 32 -c 1 -A 1 -K 0 -P 0 -X 12 -W 1 -S 0 > /dev/hdb > > Nothing fancy, just PIO mode 4, 32bit i/o,, stuff like that.. > > > > MainBoard, Intel FX Ppro > Hard Disks.. > > hda Maxtor 84200A8 > > hdb Seagate ST51080A > > In the results, I got a couple of errors... Here they are... > > > > HDIO_SET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument > > HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setprefetch) failed: Input/output error > > Here is the full results of the hdparm commands. > > > > /dev/hda: > setting fs readahead to 8 > setting 32-bit I/O support flag to 1 > setting multcount to 32 > HDIO_SET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument > setting readonly to 0 (off) > setting unmaskirq to 0 (off) > setting using_dma to 0 (off) > setting drive keep features to 0 (off) > setting drive prefetch to 0 > HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setprefetch) failed: Input/output error > setting xfermode to 12 (PIO flow control mode4) > setting drive read-lookahead to 1 (on) > setting drive write-caching to 1 (on) > setting standby to 0 (off) > multcount= 16 (on) > I/O support = 1 (32-bit) > unmaskirq= 0 (off) > using_dma= 0 (off) > readonly = 0 (off) > readahead= 8 (on) > > /dev/hdb: > setting fs readahead to 8 > setting 32-bit I/O support flag to 1 > setting multcount to 32 > setting readonly to 0 (off) > setting unmaskirq to 0 (off) > setting using_dma to 0 (off) > setting drive keep features to 0 (off) > setting drive prefetch to 0 > HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setprefetch) failed: Input/output error > setting xfermode to 12 (PIO flow control mode4) > setting drive read-lookahead to 1 (on) > setting drive write-caching to 1 (on) > setting standby to 0 (off) > multcount= 32 (on) > I/O support = 1 (32-bit) > unmaskirq= 0 (off) > using_dma= 0 (off) > readonly = 0 (off) > readahead= 8 (on) > > Can anyone tell me what they (the errors) mean?? > > > Also, can I get it any better with that hardware? > > > > rgds > > Frank the 32 on one drive was above the maximum multcount it would support hdparm -i /dev/hdx to get capabilities The prefetch setting is not supported by many drive/chipset combos, or it is set differently depending on zone density of data on the drive. So the errors mean you cannot do what you tried to with that set of commands, only most of it. It is not obvious that multcount set very high really helps--it is wise to step through a few settings and use hdparm -t three times at each one, paying attention only to the last of the three tests. Civileme Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux
Ok, for _my_ wise a$$ rply; yes.; why?; are you trying to be insulting (?"windoze explorer browser"?). yes, that's understandable, none of those MP3s are illegally ripped are they? now the real stuff we are always glad to help someone just learning, and we are learning too, (I ain't nothing budda Neeewwwbeee) you are going to need to access the fstab file and edit it as root. or run diskdrake, I believe it will bo it for you in a GUI. will be important to know the type of filesystem installed On Wednesday 22 August 2001 15:18, Joe Brault wrote: > Hello, > > I found this mailing list on the Mandrake site, and thought you all > might be able to help me with my problem. I purchased a hard drive > yesterday (maxtor 40GB 5400rpm) and installed it thru windoze. I can see > and use the drive fine in windoze, however when I access my linux setup > (Linux Mandrake 8.0, running KDE; I have a dual boot system using grub) I > can see the drive when I look for it in the windoze explorer browser (can't > remember name?) but the size shows as 4kb and I can't see any files on > it... its like a blank drive... > > Does anyone know how to configure Linux to see this drive in kde so I > can read/write to it? I've got all my mp3's on this drive... so it's kinda > important to have it up:) no music until it's working! Thanks in advance! > > > - Joe :) > > -- > > | Have you petted your penguin today? :) | > | Registered Linux user #183248 | > > -- > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Content-Type: text/plain; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux
Lo Joe, As is usual, I had an idea just as I was about to go to bed. Am I right in thinking that you can boot into Linux? If so, try the following for me and send me the results. >From the command line, or from a terminal, run 'fdisk /dev/hda' (no quotes). Run too 'df' and send the results. Once you've run these two let me have the results please. I suspect that you have, quite simply, finished the 'fdisk' too early. I may be wrong of course but keep your fingers crossed! Mail me directly. Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe Brault Sent: 22 August 2001 21:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux << File: message.footer >> Mike, Sorry, should have put that info in before :) I think I did a typo... the drive is a 40GB drive, 5400rpm. here's the rest of my specs: Motherboard: Tyan 1854s CPU: Genuine Intel P3 666Mhz Pri HD: Maxtor 15GB 7200rpm RAM: 256mb Video Card: Vodoo 3 3500TV AGP CD Drive: Creative 52x CDRW Drive: Creative CDRW 8*4*32x Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Platinum! Network card: Generic Ne2k card Modem: Actiontec 56k internal PCI call waiting modem (works with Linux :) I think that's all the pertinent info... my system is a dual boot, 7gig partition is win98. 8gig for Linux Mandrake 8.0. I use grub to boot my system. I'm not sure if I need to 'install' the hard drive in Linux or not.. please see my previous post below for the specifics... But I can read/write to the drive in Win98 (and it sees it as a 40gb drive) but in linux it sees the drive however it shows it to have a size of 4kb... and I see no files on the drive even though over 9gigs are full already. Thanks for any help :) you can email me directly if you have more specific q's about my system, or with an answer to my problem :) Thanks! - Joe :) -- | Have you petted your penguin today? :) | | Registered Linux user #183248 | -- >From: "Michael McGibben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:32:44 +0100 > >Hello there, >Are you saying that windoze sees it as 4GB? A 4Kb drive is a very >retrograde >step! What sort of motherboard do you have, processor etc? Which version of >'doze' do you use? How have you partitioned your drive. Are you using >Partition Magic or what? > >Send some more info please. > >Michael > > -Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe Brault >Sent: 22 August 2001 20:19 >To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux > > << File: message.footer >> Hello, > > I found this mailing list on the Mandrake site, and thought you all >might be able to help me with my problem. I purchased a hard drive >yesterday (maxtor 40GB 5400rpm) and installed it thru windoze. I can see >and use the drive fine in windoze, however when I access my linux setup >(Linux Mandrake 8.0, running KDE; I have a dual boot system using grub) I >can see the drive when I look for it in the windoze explorer browser (can't >remember name?) but the size shows as 4kb and I can't see any files on >it... its like a blank drive... > > Does anyone know how to configure Linux to see this drive in kde so I >can read/write to it? I've got all my mp3's on this drive... so it's kinda >important to have it up:) no music until it's working! Thanks in advance! > > > - Joe :) > >-- >| Have you petted your penguin today? :) | >| Registered Linux user #183248 | >-- > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux
Lo Joe, A little more info please. Of the 40Gb you are using 15. What happens to the rest? The point is that if Doze sees it ok then Linux should. Are you using Mandrake 8.0? When you load Md 8.0 you are asked a) which drive and b) how do you want to partition it. If you assume that doze is the C: drive then Linux will see that as /dev/had. What drive letter does Linux assign? Sorry to be so boring but it all helps to crack the prob. Mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe Brault Sent: 22 August 2001 21:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux << File: message.footer >> Mike, Sorry, should have put that info in before :) I think I did a typo... the drive is a 40GB drive, 5400rpm. here's the rest of my specs: Motherboard: Tyan 1854s CPU: Genuine Intel P3 666Mhz Pri HD: Maxtor 15GB 7200rpm RAM: 256mb Video Card: Vodoo 3 3500TV AGP CD Drive: Creative 52x CDRW Drive: Creative CDRW 8*4*32x Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Platinum! Network card: Generic Ne2k card Modem: Actiontec 56k internal PCI call waiting modem (works with Linux :) I think that's all the pertinent info... my system is a dual boot, 7gig partition is win98. 8gig for Linux Mandrake 8.0. I use grub to boot my system. I'm not sure if I need to 'install' the hard drive in Linux or not.. please see my previous post below for the specifics... But I can read/write to the drive in Win98 (and it sees it as a 40gb drive) but in linux it sees the drive however it shows it to have a size of 4kb... and I see no files on the drive even though over 9gigs are full already. Thanks for any help :) you can email me directly if you have more specific q's about my system, or with an answer to my problem :) Thanks! - Joe :) -- | Have you petted your penguin today? :) | | Registered Linux user #183248 | -- >From: "Michael McGibben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:32:44 +0100 > >Hello there, >Are you saying that windoze sees it as 4GB? A 4Kb drive is a very >retrograde >step! What sort of motherboard do you have, processor etc? Which version of >'doze' do you use? How have you partitioned your drive. Are you using >Partition Magic or what? > >Send some more info please. > >Michael > > -Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe Brault >Sent: 22 August 2001 20:19 >To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux > > << File: message.footer >> Hello, > > I found this mailing list on the Mandrake site, and thought you all >might be able to help me with my problem. I purchased a hard drive >yesterday (maxtor 40GB 5400rpm) and installed it thru windoze. I can see >and use the drive fine in windoze, however when I access my linux setup >(Linux Mandrake 8.0, running KDE; I have a dual boot system using grub) I >can see the drive when I look for it in the windoze explorer browser (can't >remember name?) but the size shows as 4kb and I can't see any files on >it... its like a blank drive... > > Does anyone know how to configure Linux to see this drive in kde so I >can read/write to it? I've got all my mp3's on this drive... so it's kinda >important to have it up:) no music until it's working! Thanks in advance! > > > - Joe :) > >-- >| Have you petted your penguin today? :) | >| Registered Linux user #183248 | >-- > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux
It was Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:18:37 -0500 when Joe Brault wrote: If it is connected through the ATA100 interface, it is probably /dev/hde. My 40Gb maxtors are hde and hdf Paul >Hello, > >I found this mailing list on the Mandrake site, and thought you all >might be able to help me with my problem. I purchased a hard drive >yesterday (maxtor 40GB 5400rpm) and installed it thru windoze. I can see >and use the drive fine in windoze, however when I access my linux setup >(Linux Mandrake 8.0, running KDE; I have a dual boot system using grub) I >can see the drive when I look for it in the windoze explorer browser (can't >remember name?) but the size shows as 4kb and I can't see any files on >it... its like a blank drive... > >Does anyone know how to configure Linux to see this drive in kde so I >can read/write to it? I've got all my mp3's on this drive... so it's kinda >important to have it up:) no music until it's working! Thanks in advance! > > > - Joe :) > >-- >| Have you petted your penguin today? :) | >| Registered Linux user #183248 | >-- > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > -- Doubt indulged soon becomes doubt realized. -Francis R. Havergal http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux
Mike, Sorry, should have put that info in before :) I think I did a typo... the drive is a 40GB drive, 5400rpm. here's the rest of my specs: Motherboard: Tyan 1854s CPU: Genuine Intel P3 666Mhz Pri HD: Maxtor 15GB 7200rpm RAM: 256mb Video Card: Vodoo 3 3500TV AGP CD Drive: Creative 52x CDRW Drive: Creative CDRW 8*4*32x Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Platinum! Network card: Generic Ne2k card Modem: Actiontec 56k internal PCI call waiting modem (works with Linux :) I think that's all the pertinent info... my system is a dual boot, 7gig partition is win98. 8gig for Linux Mandrake 8.0. I use grub to boot my system. I'm not sure if I need to 'install' the hard drive in Linux or not.. please see my previous post below for the specifics... But I can read/write to the drive in Win98 (and it sees it as a 40gb drive) but in linux it sees the drive however it shows it to have a size of 4kb... and I see no files on the drive even though over 9gigs are full already. Thanks for any help :) you can email me directly if you have more specific q's about my system, or with an answer to my problem :) Thanks! - Joe :) -- | Have you petted your penguin today? :) | | Registered Linux user #183248 | -- >From: "Michael McGibben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:32:44 +0100 > >Hello there, >Are you saying that windoze sees it as 4GB? A 4Kb drive is a very >retrograde >step! What sort of motherboard do you have, processor etc? Which version of >'doze' do you use? How have you partitioned your drive. Are you using >Partition Magic or what? > >Send some more info please. > >Michael > > -Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe Brault >Sent: 22 August 2001 20:19 >To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux > > << File: message.footer >> Hello, > > I found this mailing list on the Mandrake site, and thought you all >might be able to help me with my problem. I purchased a hard drive >yesterday (maxtor 40GB 5400rpm) and installed it thru windoze. I can see >and use the drive fine in windoze, however when I access my linux setup >(Linux Mandrake 8.0, running KDE; I have a dual boot system using grub) I >can see the drive when I look for it in the windoze explorer browser (can't >remember name?) but the size shows as 4kb and I can't see any files on >it... its like a blank drive... > > Does anyone know how to configure Linux to see this drive in kde so I >can read/write to it? I've got all my mp3's on this drive... so it's kinda >important to have it up:) no music until it's working! Thanks in advance! > > > - Joe :) > >-- >| Have you petted your penguin today? :) | >| Registered Linux user #183248 | >-- > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux
On Wednesday 22 August 2001 04:32 pm, you wrote: > Hello there, > Are you saying that windoze sees it as 4GB? A 4Kb drive is a very > retrograde step! What sort of motherboard do you have, processor etc? Which > version of 'doze' do you use? How have you partitioned your drive. Are you > using Partition Magic or what? > > Send some more info please. > > Michael > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe Brault > Sent: 22 August 2001 20:19 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux > > << File: message.footer >> Hello, > > I found this mailing list on the Mandrake site, and thought you all > might be able to help me with my problem. I purchased a hard drive > yesterday (maxtor 40GB 5400rpm) and installed it thru windoze. I can see > and use the drive fine in windoze, however when I access my linux setup > (Linux Mandrake 8.0, running KDE; I have a dual boot system using grub) I > can see the drive when I look for it in the windoze explorer browser (can't > remember name?) but the size shows as 4kb and I can't see any files on > it... its like a blank drive... > > Does anyone know how to configure Linux to see this drive in kde so I > can read/write to it? I've got all my mp3's on this drive... so it's kinda > important to have it up:) no music until it's working! Thanks in advance! > > > - Joe :) > > -- > > | Have you petted your penguin today? :) | > | Registered Linux user #183248 | > > -- You need to set up the drive in /etc/fstab. I am not the one to tell you how though, sorry. -- Count on nothing, expect little, hope for everything Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux
Hello there, Are you saying that windoze sees it as 4GB? A 4Kb drive is a very retrograde step! What sort of motherboard do you have, processor etc? Which version of 'doze' do you use? How have you partitioned your drive. Are you using Partition Magic or what? Send some more info please. Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe Brault Sent: 22 August 2001 20:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux << File: message.footer >> Hello, I found this mailing list on the Mandrake site, and thought you all might be able to help me with my problem. I purchased a hard drive yesterday (maxtor 40GB 5400rpm) and installed it thru windoze. I can see and use the drive fine in windoze, however when I access my linux setup (Linux Mandrake 8.0, running KDE; I have a dual boot system using grub) I can see the drive when I look for it in the windoze explorer browser (can't remember name?) but the size shows as 4kb and I can't see any files on it... its like a blank drive... Does anyone know how to configure Linux to see this drive in kde so I can read/write to it? I've got all my mp3's on this drive... so it's kinda important to have it up:) no music until it's working! Thanks in advance! - Joe :) -- | Have you petted your penguin today? :) | | Registered Linux user #183248 | -- _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Hard Drive addition in Linux
Hello, I found this mailing list on the Mandrake site, and thought you all might be able to help me with my problem. I purchased a hard drive yesterday (maxtor 40GB 5400rpm) and installed it thru windoze. I can see and use the drive fine in windoze, however when I access my linux setup (Linux Mandrake 8.0, running KDE; I have a dual boot system using grub) I can see the drive when I look for it in the windoze explorer browser (can't remember name?) but the size shows as 4kb and I can't see any files on it... its like a blank drive... Does anyone know how to configure Linux to see this drive in kde so I can read/write to it? I've got all my mp3's on this drive... so it's kinda important to have it up:) no music until it's working! Thanks in advance! - Joe :) -- | Have you petted your penguin today? :) | | Registered Linux user #183248 | -- _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
It is a Great bootloader as well. It is what I use on any of my systems that have more than 2 OSes installed. It certainly simplifies the life of adding, changing and removing. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. > -Original Message- > From: Marcia Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:38 PM > To: Charles A Edwards; Newbie (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux > > > Dear All, > I agree about using System Commander. I had my hard disk > totally go bad 2 > weeks ago and then put in a new one. I almost used fdisk to > partition but > last minute I decided to try my System Commander. It worked > absolutely great. > I was very impressed. I am up and running now without a > problem and now I do > not think I would use anything else for that job. I used > fdisk before and I > definitely prefer System Commander. > > Marcia > > On Wednesday 08 August 2001 13:33, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > This is true of any 2 partitioning programs. > > Always use only 1 for creating, resizing and moving. > > > > I prefer using either PM or SystemCommader, but not on the > same machine. > > Unlike fdisk or DiskDrake PM and SC can handle all partition types. > > > > The only time I use Diskdrake is to change the file type on > pre-existing > > Linux partitions and I never use fdisk. > > > >Charles
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
Dear All, I agree about using System Commander. I had my hard disk totally go bad 2 weeks ago and then put in a new one. I almost used fdisk to partition but last minute I decided to try my System Commander. It worked absolutely great. I was very impressed. I am up and running now without a problem and now I do not think I would use anything else for that job. I used fdisk before and I definitely prefer System Commander. Marcia On Wednesday 08 August 2001 13:33, Charles A Edwards wrote: > This is true of any 2 partitioning programs. > Always use only 1 for creating, resizing and moving. > > I prefer using either PM or SystemCommader, but not on the same machine. > Unlike fdisk or DiskDrake PM and SC can handle all partition types. > > The only time I use Diskdrake is to change the file type on pre-existing > Linux partitions and I never use fdisk. > >Charles
RE: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
This is true of any 2 partitioning programs. Always use only 1 for creating, resizing and moving. I prefer using either PM or SystemCommader, but not on the same machine. Unlike fdisk or DiskDrake PM and SC can handle all partition types. The only time I use Diskdrake is to change the file type on pre-existing Linux partitions and I never use fdisk. Charles Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sevatio > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:46 AM > To: Robin Ballantine; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux > > > Yes, if you're going to use Diskdrake to set up your HD, you > CANNOT go > back in and resize it with Partition Magic. They are > different enough to > result in mysterious data loss over a period of time and eventually, > you'll end up losing everything. I had this experience over several > machines and this is the response I received from Powerquest > Partition > Magic's tech-support. > > Sevatio > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > On 8/8/01, 6:28:51 AM, Robin Ballantine > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux: > > > > On Wednesday 08 August 2001 2:00 am, you wrote: > > > I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes > to harddrives, > > > but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix > on a drive that > > > was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall > windows on the > > > drive again without it not working or being awfully > unstable. I'm not > sure > > > why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer > wants to work. I > even > > > went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get > in the fdisk, > and > > > create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then > rebooted, fdisk'd > > > off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, > formatted it, > > > then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the > system checker thing > > > at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors > about the > drive. > > > Anyway, anyone else having this problem? > > > I have read somewhere, but can't remember where, That if > you are going to > > install Windows on a partition then you should format that > partition with > the > > dos version of fdisk as supplied with windows or with the disk > installation > > floppy. I believe the linux version of fdisk formats a dos > partition > slightly > > differently. > > Hope this helps, > > Robin >
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
I'm not 100% sure I understand your problem correctly, but no where in this
text do you mention running DOS fdisk command to resetup DOS partitions for
windows support. I'm not that familiar with the linux form of fdisk but at
least in the GUI disk convertors while they do a great job for linux
partitions and may offer to set up fat 32 for dos, well it never worked for
DOS for me. Try the DOS fdisk first and then format from the DOS disk as
well, then give loading winders a try again. If this still doesn't work
it's my opinion that you need to try the low level format or write test
using the hard drive manufacturers utility. All data will be lost using any
of these methods however. Don't mess with the low level format however
until you have exhausted all other possibilities as it has been a subject on
this list, that has in my opinion not been determined yet, whether or not it
potentially can harm the drive.
("I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives,
but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that
was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the
drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure
why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even
went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and
create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off
a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then
tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the
beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway,
anyone else having this problem?")
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
Yes, if you're going to use Diskdrake to set up your HD, you CANNOT go back in and resize it with Partition Magic. They are different enough to result in mysterious data loss over a period of time and eventually, you'll end up losing everything. I had this experience over several machines and this is the response I received from Powerquest Partition Magic's tech-support. Sevatio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 8/8/01, 6:28:51 AM, Robin Ballantine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux: > On Wednesday 08 August 2001 2:00 am, you wrote: > > I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, > > but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that > > was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the > > drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure > > why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even > > went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and > > create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd > > off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, > > then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing > > at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. > > Anyway, anyone else having this problem? > I have read somewhere, but can't remember where, That if you are going to > install Windows on a partition then you should format that partition with the > dos version of fdisk as supplied with windows or with the disk installation > floppy. I believe the linux version of fdisk formats a dos partition slightly > differently. > Hope this helps, > Robin
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
I would suggest you get a Windows98 boot disc with fdisk and delpart First you boot form floppy, then you make delpart to loose everything on your hard drive, you use fdisk to create new partitions you reboot your machine with your floppy inside... then you format your hard drives format c:/s and you should be able to install Winblows... Once I had other problem I could not do anything with the hard drive (I was even not able to boot from floppy...)... so the only way to get hdd again working was make a "clone". I asked a friend of mine to make a "clone" of WindowsNT using Northon Goust... and then I could insall winblows without any problem... If this doesn't work... I think you need to change your hard drive X - A - W - K - Original Message - From: "Greg Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux-Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:16 AM Subject: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem? -- Jest niezly ... i liscik napisze OnetKomunikator [ http://ok.onet.pl/instaluj.html ]
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
Last time I said this, a lot of people yelled at me, but download a utility from the drive manufacturer and do a low-level format. jim Quoting Greg Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but > it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was > formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive > again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this > happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as > far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a > new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot > floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the > installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning > of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else > having this problem? > Ignorance is underrated
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
On Wednesday 08 August 2001 2:00 am, you wrote: > I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, > but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that > was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the > drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure > why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even > went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and > create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd > off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, > then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing > at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. > Anyway, anyone else having this problem? I have read somewhere, but can't remember where, That if you are going to install Windows on a partition then you should format that partition with the dos version of fdisk as supplied with windows or with the disk installation floppy. I believe the linux version of fdisk formats a dos partition slightly differently. Hope this helps, Robin
RE: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
Title: Message The only thing that would cause this, is if Linux activated UDMA/66 (or 100) on a UDMA capable drive that was only working at UDMA/33 or below under winblows. Certain drives, once set to UDMA/66 continue to attempt to operate in this mode, even through a power off. WD & Seagate have a utility to ENABLE/DISABLE this. If your motherboard is UDMA/66 capable, you might want to make SURE that you have an 80 conductor UDMA IDE cable. These are denser than the normal cable(s) running to CD-ROMS, etc. If the OS, Linux, or utility put the drive into UDMA/33/66/100 mode and you do not have a 80 conductor cable, you'll end up with a lot of errors.. -JMS -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg TaylorSent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:01 AMTo: Linux-NewbieSubject: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem?
[newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem?
RE: [newbie] Hard drive not found?
>Hi >I'm trying to install 7.2 on an AMD Thunderbird with an ASUS A7V mother board. I have a hard drive where 20 out of 30Gb are used for Windows, which is working just fine. I have saved the remaining unpartitioned 10Gb for Linux. When I try to install 7.2 however, I get the following message when I reach the point in the installation program where I'm supposed to partition the hard drive and set up the filesystem: "An error has occured - no valid devices were found on which to create new filesystems. Please check your hardware for the couse of this problem". And then I can't do anything else than just exit the install. I've tried to boot directly from the CD, from a boot disk, I've tried to run text mode install and in expert mode, but nothing works. Please send in plain text rather than HTML. The problem you are having is caused by the fact that the installation does not recognize the onboard Promise ATA100 controller and therefore can not see your hds. Here is what will work on most systems, At the installation splash screen press F1 and at the boot prompt (it will be at the bottom of the screen) enter the following: lspci -vv | less use the space bar to scroll down until you find your Promise controller. You will see 5 heximal number strings showing the I/Os for the controller, write down the first 4 sets (call them a,b,c,and d). Reboot your system. At the installation splash screen press F1 and at the boot prompt enter: linux ide2=0x8400, 0x8002 ide3=0x7800, 0x74002 These are from my system you will need to enter yours. The formula to use is ide2=a, (b+2) ide3=c (d+2). If there are no other problems the installation should then run. Charles Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
Re: [newbie] Hard drive not found?
Someone may be able to answer this better than me, but I believe that linux must start in the first 4000 blocks, or maybe it's the first 4 gigs of a hard drive in order to boot. I ran into this problem myself when I tried to get win98 and slackware to share a large hard drive. Jennifer On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Peter Guzikowski wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to install 7.2 on an AMD Thunderbird with an ASUS A7V mother board. I >have a hard drive where 20 out of 30Gb are used for Windows, which is working just >fine. I have saved the remaining unpartitioned 10Gb for Linux. When I try to install >7.2 however, I get the following message when I reach the point in the installation >program where I'm supposed to partition the hard drive and set up the filesystem: "An >error has occured - no valid devices were found on which to create new filesystems. >Please check your hardware for the couse of this problem". And then I can't do >anything else than just exit the install. I've tried to boot directly from the CD, >from a boot disk, I've tried to run text mode install and in expert mode, but nothing >works. >
Re: [newbie] Hard drive not found?
Hi, Have you partitioned your remaining 10GB before you tried to install Linux Mandrake??? On the CD is Partition Magic which should help solve your problem. If you need anymore help, let me know... Regards, Thomas Adam --- Peter Guzikowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to install 7.2 on an AMD Thunderbird with > an ASUS A7V mother board. I have a hard drive where > 20 out of 30Gb are used for Windows, which is > working just fine. I have saved the remaining > unpartitioned 10Gb for Linux. When I try to install > 7.2 however, I get the following message when I > reach the point in the installation program where > I'm supposed to partition the hard drive and set up > the filesystem: "An error has occured - no valid > devices were found on which to create new > filesystems. Please check your hardware for the > couse of this problem". And then I can't do anything > else than just exit the install. I've tried to boot > directly from the CD, from a boot disk, I've tried > to run text mode install and in expert mode, but > nothing works. > = Thomas Adam Linux Co-ordinator for The Purbeck School e-mail (school): [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail (yahoo) : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] Hard drive not found?
Hi I'm trying to install 7.2 on an AMD Thunderbird with an ASUS A7V mother board. I have a hard drive where 20 out of 30Gb are used for Windows, which is working just fine. I have saved the remaining unpartitioned 10Gb for Linux. When I try to install 7.2 however, I get the following message when I reach the point in the installation program where I'm supposed to partition the hard drive and set up the filesystem: "An error has occured - no valid devices were found on which to create new filesystems. Please check your hardware for the couse of this problem". And then I can't do anything else than just exit the install. I've tried to boot directly from the CD, from a boot disk, I've tried to run text mode install and in expert mode, but nothing works.
RE: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit
Some IDE hard drive/cdroms have jumpering configurations which differ from what you expect. I.E. the factory default may be |--... |. and the user jumpers one as master ..|... ..|... and the other as slave .|... .|... however the "leftmost" jumper which was originally installed makes or breaks the LED problem you are seeing. Normally this is the result of using slightly different IDE drive technologies from two different manufacturers. It is the result of improper jumpering, (you almost have it correct, it works but the LED stays lit) or a bad IDE cable. You also might have left the "cable select" jumper incorrectly set... Rarely it's a bad IDE controller chip. If the light goes out in Windows, but stays on in Linux it's normally one of the above. I've seen this too. Rejumpering or changing the cable has always fixed this problem. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelly, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:52 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit Did you build this machine yourself? Maybe you've got the LED's crossed on the Mobo? -Original Message- From: Po Kwok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit Miark wrote: > > I don't think memory is the problem--I have 384 MB! > > Any other insights? > > Miark > > - Original Message - > From: "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > At 11:57 PM 1/5/01 -0700, Miark wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > > > >I dual-boot to Windoze and Mandrake 7.2. In Windoze, the > > >hard drive light on my case acts as you'd expect, but in > > >Linux, it _never_ turns off. Does that mean that my drive > is > > >always running, or that the hardware mechanism that > controls > > >the light just loses its mind while running Linux? > > > > Probably you need more memory, because perhaps you have > too many services > > run at boot which consume the memory. > > to control the services, do ntsysv as a root. tell us your hardware configuration in details. eg. what kind of motherboard is it? how many internal and external devices do you have .. etc... etc.. aston sydney, australia
Re: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit
> wow...what a system...wish I had it...LOL Thanks--it's taken a year and a half to get all this stuff. (I wait for mega-sales.) > first...are you sure it is your HD lite... > and not your turbo lite ...thats always on... > if it's the turbo...thats supposed to be that way... No, this case doesn't even have a turbo light. Miark
Re: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit
When the light is on, can you hear a great deal of harddrive activity? Also, is your CPU bogged down enough to slow every thing else? If this is the case then you may want to check your swap partition and make sure it's not full. When swap gets full, the harddrive will turn into a runaway process. Seve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 1/9/01, 6:51:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit: > You might want to try running 'gtop' from the terminal to see what processes are running. You will have to be su to run it. > Barry :-) > On Mon, 08 January 2001, "Miark" wrote: > > > > I don't think memory is the problem--I have 384 MB! > > > > Any other insights? > > > > Miark > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > At 11:57 PM 1/5/01 -0700, Miark wrote: > > > >Hi all, > > > > > > > >I dual-boot to Windoze and Mandrake 7.2. In Windoze, the > > > >hard drive light on my case acts as you'd expect, but in > > > >Linux, it _never_ turns off. Does that mean that my drive > > is > > > >always running, or that the hardware mechanism that > > controls > > > >the light just loses its mind while running Linux? > > > > > > Probably you need more memory, because perhaps you have > > too many services > > > run at boot which consume the memory. > > > to control the services, do ntsysv as a root. > > > > > > > > Surfree.com - nationwide internet access > http://www.surfree.com
Re: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit
I have the following set up. I should preface this with a few things: first, the wiring on the board is correct because the light works properly in Windoze. Second, all peripherals are PCI unless noted; third, I am using all of my five PCI slots, one of two ISA slots, and neither of my two USB ports. Okay, here's what I got: Mobo: Epox MVP3G5 (2 MB L2 cache) CPU: 500 MHz K6-2 Memory: 384 MB HD: 30 GB Maxtor (6 GB for MDK 7.2) Floppy: One 1.44 MB standard DVD: Toshiba SD-M1202 Burner: Creative RW8433E Mouse: PS/2 M$ IntelliMouse KBoard: standard (generic) Video: Diamond Viper 770 AGP (32 MB) DVD/MPG: Hollywood Plus Capture: Fusion Bt878 capture card for camera Sound: Aureal SQ2500 (may they R.I.P.) Network: Allied Telesyn AT-2500TX 10/100 Ethernet Modem: 56k ISA (56xifxvC) (may they also R.I.P.) Thanks for wading through this for ideas. Miark > tell us your hardware configuration in details. eg. what kind of > motherboard is it? how many internal and external devices do you have > .. etc... etc..
Re: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit
You might want to try running 'gtop' from the terminal to see what processes are running. You will have to be su to run it. Barry :-) On Mon, 08 January 2001, "Miark" wrote: > > I don't think memory is the problem--I have 384 MB! > > Any other insights? > > Miark > > > - Original Message - > From: "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > At 11:57 PM 1/5/01 -0700, Miark wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > > > >I dual-boot to Windoze and Mandrake 7.2. In Windoze, the > > >hard drive light on my case acts as you'd expect, but in > > >Linux, it _never_ turns off. Does that mean that my drive > is > > >always running, or that the hardware mechanism that > controls > > >the light just loses its mind while running Linux? > > > > Probably you need more memory, because perhaps you have > too many services > > run at boot which consume the memory. > > to control the services, do ntsysv as a root. > > > > Surfree.com - nationwide internet access http://www.surfree.com
RE: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit
Did you build this machine yourself? Maybe you've got the LED's crossed on the Mobo? -Original Message- From: Po Kwok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit Miark wrote: > > I don't think memory is the problem--I have 384 MB! > > Any other insights? > > Miark > > - Original Message - > From: "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > At 11:57 PM 1/5/01 -0700, Miark wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > > > >I dual-boot to Windoze and Mandrake 7.2. In Windoze, the > > >hard drive light on my case acts as you'd expect, but in > > >Linux, it _never_ turns off. Does that mean that my drive > is > > >always running, or that the hardware mechanism that > controls > > >the light just loses its mind while running Linux? > > > > Probably you need more memory, because perhaps you have > too many services > > run at boot which consume the memory. > > to control the services, do ntsysv as a root. tell us your hardware configuration in details. eg. what kind of motherboard is it? how many internal and external devices do you have .. etc... etc.. aston sydney, australia
Re: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit
I don't think memory is the problem--I have 384 MB! Any other insights? Miark - Original Message - From: "Irwan Hadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 11:57 PM 1/5/01 -0700, Miark wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >I dual-boot to Windoze and Mandrake 7.2. In Windoze, the > >hard drive light on my case acts as you'd expect, but in > >Linux, it _never_ turns off. Does that mean that my drive is > >always running, or that the hardware mechanism that controls > >the light just loses its mind while running Linux? > > Probably you need more memory, because perhaps you have too many services > run at boot which consume the memory. > to control the services, do ntsysv as a root. > >
Re: [newbie] Hard drive light always lit
At 11:57 PM 1/5/01 -0700, Miark wrote: >Hi all, > >I dual-boot to Windoze and Mandrake 7.2. In Windoze, the >hard drive light on my case acts as you'd expect, but in >Linux, it _never_ turns off. Does that mean that my drive is >always running, or that the hardware mechanism that controls >the light just loses its mind while running Linux? Probably you need more memory, because perhaps you have too many services run at boot which consume the memory. to control the services, do ntsysv as a root.
[newbie] Hard drive light always lit
Hi all, I dual-boot to Windoze and Mandrake 7.2. In Windoze, the hard drive light on my case acts as you'd expect, but in Linux, it _never_ turns off. Does that mean that my drive is always running, or that the hardware mechanism that controls the light just loses its mind while running Linux? Miark
[newbie] hard drive & CD ROM not found on bootup
Hi all I hope you can help me ... When I boot up Linux-Mandrake 7.1 it naturally looks for both my hard drive and CD ROM, but it can't find them, so it starts Kudzo. (Which it also does when my external modem is switched off - that's a real nuicance!) There it gives me the three options: remove driver ; keep driver ; do nothing. Whichever one I choose, It just dumps me at the command line ( well, it looks like it but I can't execute any commands except ) after saying that I should run e2fsck. But i can't give any commands, so I have to reboot. The windows partition still works fine (as good as windows can ) So I really don't know what to do... please help, I'm going to order 7.2 through cheapbytes (anyone know of a cheaper place? - once I saw 7.1 advertised as $2), but I really want to get this working as I can't stand Windows anymore. TIA... creaktop
