Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Friday 16 July 2004 12:01 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: The Other wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:45:10 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, before I do that, I could install an earlier version of kppp and see how that performs(My MD8.1 is running on some very ancient version)as I don't think any dependencies in say the MD9.1's kppp version is likely to be a problem, but would it install? Try the MD9.1 install. I'm using MDK9.1 right now with the KPPP dialer. The LFS 5.1 system is another system/kernel I multiboot with MDK9.1 and Win95B (for some legacy music apps). In search of the bullet-proof apps. Stephen. One further question. Should I have the bios MC97 Modem, set for auto of disabled with a hardware controlled modem. John John: I'd say that best setting would be to disable it. The auto setting could be a recipe for disaster, with both modems fighting for recognition. I suppose that you might be able to get away with having them assigned to different ports and IRQ's, but I'm not sure why you would want to do that. -- cmg I quite agree, just checking. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Friday 16 July 2004 12:01 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > The Other wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:45:10 +0100, John Richard Smith > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> However, before I do that, I could install an earlier version of kppp > >> and see how that performs(My MD8.1 is running on some very ancient > >> version)as I don't think any dependencies in say the MD9.1's kppp > >> version is likely to be a problem, but would it install? > > > > Try the MD9.1 install. I'm using MDK9.1 right now with the KPPP > > dialer. The LFS 5.1 system is another system/kernel I multiboot with > > MDK9.1 and Win95B (for some legacy music apps). > > > > In search of the bullet-proof apps. > > Stephen. > > One further question. > > Should I have the bios MC97 Modem, set for auto of disabled with a > hardware controlled modem. > > John John: I'd say that best setting would be to disable it. The auto setting could be a recipe for disaster, with both modems fighting for recognition. I suppose that you might be able to get away with having them assigned to different ports and IRQ's, but I'm not sure why you would want to do that. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
The Other wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:45:10 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, before I do that, I could install an earlier version of kppp and see how that performs(My MD8.1 is running on some very ancient version)as I don't think any dependencies in say the MD9.1's kppp version is likely to be a problem, but would it install? Try the MD9.1 install. I'm using MDK9.1 right now with the KPPP dialer. The LFS 5.1 system is another system/kernel I multiboot with MDK9.1 and Win95B (for some legacy music apps). In search of the bullet-proof apps. Stephen. One further question. Should I have the bios MC97 Modem, set for auto of disabled with a hardware controlled modem. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:31:19 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In KPPP under modem, there is a line termination field with 3 choices. Hello John, When KPPP was giving me fits, I went to WVdial. That seemed to work okay. You'll have to open a terminal window and then log in as superuser to start WVdial. After it connects, use your favorite web browser/mail/whatever in another window or terminal session. When you're done, go back to the WVdial terminal session and do CTRL-C to stop WVdial. I liked this approach because I would have the KPPP daemon die on me for no readily apparent reason. The only way to get control of the system was to do a software reboot. With WVdial, you can always CTRL-C to regain control if the PPP daemon dies. Recently, my ISP had someone upstream change their connection protocol and WVdial now doesn't work for me. I'm back to using KPPP. On my Linux From Scratch box (LFS 5.1), I'm going back to PPP and use a Chat Script for logging in. At least, that's the next project. :) So try WVdial-1.53, and if that doesn't work try PPP-2.4.2. Take Care John, Stephen. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
John Rye wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Richard Smith wrote: | Martin Foster wrote: | |> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:11:56 +0100, John Richard Smith |> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> |>> |>> Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night, |>> |>> Dear John, |>> |>> Thank you for your email. |>> |>> The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it |>> usually will not cause any problem whether the number is |>> witheld or not. |>> |>> If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to |>> get in contact with us again. |>> |>> Kind Regards |>> |>> Wanadoo Technical Support REF:WOOTS |>> |>> |>> Original Message Follows: I'm |>> currently using, 147008089916080 147008089916164 |>> |>> But is the 1470 strictly necessary, |>> - |>> |>> And so I'm flabbergasted. Never would of thought it. But there |>> it is. |>> |>> |>> and so you think I should remove 1470 then ? |> |> I don't see any harm in removing it. |> |> However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. Have you |> had a look at my other suggestions yet? |> | OK, I've removed the 1470 prefix and am having less trouble, but | it's too soon to say, but I'm hopeful. | | I'm thinking if this holds up, then maybe the problem is that kppp | handles prefix numbers on the initial dialup but not subsequently | on redial due to a cutoff.Could that make sense ? Somehow it does | not handle the 1470 prefix on redial, but that of course does not | account for why I am getting poor email download in the first | place, that is, that I'm getting cut off during a pop3 download. | Wanadoo my ISP may be rationalising the use of their equipement, I | don't know, though I strongly suspect it, but they would hardly | want to cut users off mid email download. That I find unlikely. It | is not in their best interest. Especially high traffic user like | me. I maybe get 400/ 800 emails a day (about 1/3 is spam though) | and they want to get this traffic off their servers ASAP for | obvious reasons. | | I tried Stephens AT string, AT &F &C1 &D2 E1 Q0 V1,it hung, Not | sure where to put ATH0 for the hangup string . I currently have ###ATH, | I'm to change that to ATH0 ?, I currently have hangup | response OK, presumeably leave that. John, What do you have in /etc/ppp/options ? lock noauth noipdefault usepeerdns Also, if you have wvdial installed, running wvdialconf will give you a pretty good initialisation string which you can copy into the modem options tab of kppp's setup. Not yet, but I may come to it. Whenever I install an OS, I configure kppp from a printscreen printout of every kppp window which I use as a crib sheet. In the past I have chosen CR or CR/LM it made no odds. The same can be said with the choice between PAP and CHAP for authentification( I happen to know my pop3 ISP account server uses CHAP) and so as long as I chose either pap/chap or just chap it didn't matter. Cheers John (NZ) John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
John Richard Smith wrote: Charlie wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:44 pm, John Richard Smith sent these thoughts: Martin Foster wrote: However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet? Can someone help me understand something. In KPPP under modem, there is a line termination field with 3 choices. CR, CR/LF, and something else I cannot just ths moment remember. Googling around I find this to be something to do with the way "line termination" is handled between unix and Dos. I read the spiel on it and it seems to be something to do with inserting the numbers -13-10 in dos line termination, and simply -10- in unix code. Suffice it to say I don't really understand it, but that is beside the point. I had my modem setting set for CR the unix code line termination criteria, is there a possibility that this just might cause kppp to return "No Carrier" on it's first ISP cutoff and redial ? What are the odds that having CR/LF set would cure my problem ? John Just CR works here John. Yes ? But maybe , just maybe, my modem works with the dos line termination code, and maybe yours works with either dos or unix, but kppp can be set to work either/both ways. If I have it on unix line termination could it somehow mess up how the modem is thought to be to be available by kppp, so that when kppp asks the modem to redial, it gets back some signal to say the modem is still running. Maybe not though. That would be like trying to get the modem to do two jobs at once, whensurely kppp wouldn't begin dialing if didn't get back from the modem a signal to say the modem is ready and waiting to dial. It's just that instead of logging in as it does on the first dialup it end with "no carier" instead. Hmm, I'm flying kites. It's just that I've now had modem set on CR/LF for 12 hours, I've had numerous ISP cutoffs, but no failed email downoad, and no failed file download ending redialup to "no Carrier" So I'm wondering ? John John, I don't think the line termination is the problem. This has more to do with file format then modems communication. Every modem I have worked with works fine in Windows, DOS, Linux, CP/M, and dumb terminals, with the commands sent to it terminated with a CR (0dh or 13), and with the normal responce terminater with a CR/LF pair. (odh/oah or 13/10) This is the default setting for most modems, and works for any program thagt expects word results. (Programs that expect numeric results are something that we do not need to get into here!) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Richard Smith wrote: | Martin Foster wrote: | |> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:11:56 +0100, John Richard Smith |> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> |>> |>> Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night, |>> |>> Dear John, |>> |>> Thank you for your email. |>> |>> The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it |>> usually will not cause any problem whether the number is |>> witheld or not. |>> |>> If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to |>> get in contact with us again. |>> |>> Kind Regards |>> |>> Wanadoo Technical Support REF:WOOTS |>> |>> |>> Original Message Follows: I'm |>> currently using, 147008089916080 147008089916164 |>> |>> But is the 1470 strictly necessary, |>> - |>> |>> And so I'm flabbergasted. Never would of thought it. But there |>> it is. |>> |>> |>> and so you think I should remove 1470 then ? |> |> I don't see any harm in removing it. |> |> However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. Have you |> had a look at my other suggestions yet? |> | OK, I've removed the 1470 prefix and am having less trouble, but | it's too soon to say, but I'm hopeful. | | I'm thinking if this holds up, then maybe the problem is that kppp | handles prefix numbers on the initial dialup but not subsequently | on redial due to a cutoff.Could that make sense ? Somehow it does | not handle the 1470 prefix on redial, but that of course does not | account for why I am getting poor email download in the first | place, that is, that I'm getting cut off during a pop3 download. | Wanadoo my ISP may be rationalising the use of their equipement, I | don't know, though I strongly suspect it, but they would hardly | want to cut users off mid email download. That I find unlikely. It | is not in their best interest. Especially high traffic user like | me. I maybe get 400/ 800 emails a day (about 1/3 is spam though) | and they want to get this traffic off their servers ASAP for | obvious reasons. | | I tried Stephens AT string, AT &F &C1 &D2 E1 Q0 V1,it hung, Not | sure where to put ATH0 for the hangup string . I currently have ###ATH, | I'm to change that to ATH0 ?, I currently have hangup | response OK, presumeably leave that. John, What do you have in /etc/ppp/options ? Also, if you have wvdial installed, running wvdialconf will give you a pretty good initialisation string which you can copy into the modem options tab of kppp's setup. Cheers John (NZ) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA8SYo8a+rYf8pSJ4RAkKcAKDbY5iQCnD5fvKhj/vO6eU+2rRgYACdH3D/ 90W3pvQRG+EnH4KHvrWwUvo= =qVhp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Richard Smith wrote: | Martin Foster wrote: | |> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:11:56 +0100, John Richard Smith |> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> |>> |>> Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night, |>> |>> Dear John, |>> |>> Thank you for your email. |>> |>> The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it |>> usually will not cause any problem whether the number is |>> witheld or not. |>> |>> If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to |>> get in contact with us again. |>> |>> Kind Regards |>> |>> Wanadoo Technical Support REF:WOOTS |>> |>> |>> Original Message Follows: I'm |>> currently using, 147008089916080 147008089916164 |>> |>> But is the 1470 strictly necessary, |>> - |>> |>> And so I'm flabbergasted. Never would of thought it. But there |>> it is. |>> |>> |>> and so you think I should remove 1470 then ? |> |> I don't see any harm in removing it. |> |> However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. Have you |> had a look at my other suggestions yet? |> | OK, I've removed the 1470 prefix and am having less trouble, but | it's too soon to say, but I'm hopeful. | | I'm thinking if this holds up, then maybe the problem is that kppp | handles prefix numbers on the initial dialup but not subsequently | on redial due to a cutoff.Could that make sense ? Somehow it does | not handle the 1470 prefix on redial, but that of course does not | account for why I am getting poor email download in the first | place, that is, that I'm getting cut off during a pop3 download. | Wanadoo my ISP may be rationalising the use of their equipement, I | don't know, though I strongly suspect it, but they would hardly | want to cut users off mid email download. That I find unlikely. It | is not in their best interest. Especially high traffic user like | me. I maybe get 400/ 800 emails a day (about 1/3 is spam though) | and they want to get this traffic off their servers ASAP for | obvious reasons. | | I tried Stephens AT string, AT &F &C1 &D2 E1 Q0 V1,it hung, Not | sure where to put ATH0 for the hangup string . I currently have ###ATH, | I'm to change that to ATH0 ?, I currently have hangup | response OK, presumeably leave that. John, What do you have in /etc/ppp/options ? Also, if you have wvdial installed, running wvdialconf will give you a pretty good initialisation string which you can copy into the modem options tab of kppp's setup. Cheers John (NZ) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA8npN8a+rYf8pSJ4RAh6iAJ90NySPeeVEK84LAHs+bX4nzvC89wCfZpa5 ODQlphsX7s0TkDg2Go6GDD4= =t0wI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
Charlie wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:44 pm, John Richard Smith sent these thoughts: Martin Foster wrote: However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet? Can someone help me understand something. In KPPP under modem, there is a line termination field with 3 choices. CR, CR/LF, and something else I cannot just ths moment remember. Googling around I find this to be something to do with the way "line termination" is handled between unix and Dos. I read the spiel on it and it seems to be something to do with inserting the numbers -13-10 in dos line termination, and simply -10- in unix code. Suffice it to say I don't really understand it, but that is beside the point. I had my modem setting set for CR the unix code line termination criteria, is there a possibility that this just might cause kppp to return "No Carrier" on it's first ISP cutoff and redial ? What are the odds that having CR/LF set would cure my problem ? John Just CR works here John. Yes ? But maybe , just maybe, my modem works with the dos line termination code, and maybe yours works with either dos or unix, but kppp can be set to work either/both ways. If I have it on unix line termination could it somehow mess up how the modem is thought to be to be available by kppp, so that when kppp asks the modem to redial, it gets back some signal to say the modem is still running. Maybe not though. That would be like trying to get the modem to do two jobs at once, whensurely kppp wouldn't begin dialing if didn't get back from the modem a signal to say the modem is ready and waiting to dial. It's just that instead of logging in as it does on the first dialup it end with "no carier" instead. Hmm, I'm flying kites. It's just that I've now had modem set on CR/LF for 12 hours, I've had numerous ISP cutoffs, but no failed email downoad, and no failed file download ending redialup to "no Carrier" So I'm wondering ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
Martin Foster wrote: On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:11:56 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night, --- Dear John, Thank you for your email. The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it usually will not cause any problem whether the number is witheld or not. If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in contact with us again. Kind Regards Wanadoo Technical Support REF:WOOTS Original Message Follows: I'm currently using, 147008089916080 147008089916164 But is the 1470 strictly necessary, - And so I'm flabbergasted. Never would of thought it. But there it is. and so you think I should remove 1470 then ? I don't see any harm in removing it. However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet? OK, I've removed the 1470 prefix and am having less trouble, but it's too soon to say, but I'm hopeful. 36 HOURS LATER == Alas, the removal of prefix 1470 to the dialup number has not proved to be the solution to the problem. I still get NO CARRIER on kppp reconnect after first ISP cutoff. So I will try ATH0 on the hangup string for a while and see what if anything that does and report. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:44 pm, John Richard Smith sent these thoughts: > Martin Foster wrote: > > However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. > > Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet? > > Can someone help me understand something. > > In KPPP under modem, there is a line termination field with 3 choices. > > CR, CR/LF, and something else I cannot just ths moment remember. > > Googling around I find this to be something to do with the way "line > termination" is handled between unix and Dos. I read the spiel on it and > it seems to be something to do with inserting the numbers > -13-10 in dos line termination, and simply -10- in unix code. Suffice > it to say I don't really understand it, but that is beside the point. > > I had my modem setting set for CR the unix code line termination > criteria, is there a possibility that this just might cause kppp to > return "No Carrier" on it's first ISP cutoff and redial ? > > What are the odds that having CR/LF set would cure my problem ? > > John Just CR works here John. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that, during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. .Ugo Betti ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 If you want to know Mandrake more intimately - look here:-) http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
Martin Foster wrote: On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:11:56 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night, --- Dear John, Thank you for your email. The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it usually will not cause any problem whether the number is witheld or not. If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in contact with us again. Kind Regards Wanadoo Technical Support REF:WOOTS Original Message Follows: I'm currently using, 147008089916080 147008089916164 But is the 1470 strictly necessary, - And so I'm flabbergasted. Never would of thought it. But there it is. and so you think I should remove 1470 then ? I don't see any harm in removing it. However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet? OK, I've removed the 1470 prefix and am having less trouble, but it's too soon to say, but I'm hopeful. I'm thinking if this holds up, then maybe the problem is that kppp handles prefix numbers on the initial dialup but not subsequently on redial due to a cutoff.Could that make sense ? Somehow it does not handle the 1470 prefix on redial, but that of course does not account for why I am getting poor email download in the first place, that is, that I'm getting cut off during a pop3 download. Wanadoo my ISP may be rationalising the use of their equipement, I don't know, though I strongly suspect it, but they would hardly want to cut users off mid email download. That I find unlikely. It is not in their best interest. Especially high traffic user like me. I maybe get 400/ 800 emails a day (about 1/3 is spam though) and they want to get this traffic off their servers ASAP for obvious reasons. I tried Stephens AT string, AT &F &C1 &D2 E1 Q0 V1,it hung, Not sure where to put ATH0 for the hangup string . I currently have +++ATH , I'm to change that to ATH0 ?, I currently have hangup response OK, presumeably leave that. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Saturday 10 Jul 2004 11:55, Martin Foster wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:11:56 +0100, John Richard Smith > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Martin Foster wrote: > >> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:26:21 +0100, Margot > >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Martin Foster wrote: > On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK > > ATM1L1 > > OK > > ATDT147008089916080 > > Why are you using "1470" in front of your ISP's phone number? > > Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an > account with them, it was unnecessary to use "1470". > >>> > >>> Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't! > >>> I use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they > >>> said the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd > >>> get charged for the call by BT! > >> > >> H, here's the result of a search for "1470" on BeeTee's Web site: > >> > >> "A customer with Permanent Number Withhold on their line can release > >> their number on a per call basis by dialling 1470 before dialling the > >> number of the person they would like to call. This means that the > >> person they are calling will be able to see the caller's number on > >> Caller Display or be told it through the free 1471 service." > > > > Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night, > > > > - > >-- > > > > Dear John, > > > > Thank you for your email. > > > > The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it usually > > will not cause any problem whether the number is witheld or not. > > > > If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in > > contact with us again. > > > > Kind Regards > > > > Wanadoo Technical Support > > REF:WOOTS > > > > > > Original Message Follows: > > > > I'm currently using, > > 147008089916080 > > 147008089916164 > > > > But is the 1470 strictly necessary, > > - > > > > And so I'm flabbergasted. > > Never would of thought it. > > But there it is. > > > > > > and so you think I should remove 1470 then ? > > I don't see any harm in removing it. > > However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. > Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet? Shot in the dark here as it's a long time since I was on dial up but I needed to use 1470 with BT Internet . I needed to put 2 commas between 1470 and the rest of number so it dialled 1470,,0845 the ,, creates a pause (IIRC each comma is 1 second) -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:11:56 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Foster wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:26:21 +0100, Margot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Foster wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 Why are you using "1470" in front of your ISP's phone number? Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an account with them, it was unnecessary to use "1470". Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't! I use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they said the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd get charged for the call by BT! H, here's the result of a search for "1470" on BeeTee's Web site: "A customer with Permanent Number Withhold on their line can release their number on a per call basis by dialling 1470 before dialling the number of the person they would like to call. This means that the person they are calling will be able to see the caller's number on Caller Display or be told it through the free 1471 service." Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night, --- Dear John, Thank you for your email. The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it usually will not cause any problem whether the number is witheld or not. If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in contact with us again. Kind Regards Wanadoo Technical Support REF:WOOTS Original Message Follows: I'm currently using, 147008089916080 147008089916164 But is the 1470 strictly necessary, - And so I'm flabbergasted. Never would of thought it. But there it is. and so you think I should remove 1470 then ? I don't see any harm in removing it. However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet? -- Martin Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
Martin Foster wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:26:21 +0100, Margot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Foster wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 Why are you using "1470" in front of your ISP's phone number? Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an account with them, it was unnecessary to use "1470". Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't! I use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they said the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd get charged for the call by BT! H, here's the result of a search for "1470" on BeeTee's Web site: "A customer with Permanent Number Withhold on their line can release their number on a per call basis by dialling 1470 before dialling the number of the person they would like to call. This means that the person they are calling will be able to see the caller's number on Caller Display or be told it through the free 1471 service." Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night, --- Dear John, Thank you for your email. The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it usually will not cause any problem whether the number is witheld or not. If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in contact with us again. Kind Regards Wanadoo Technical Support REF:WOOTS Original Message Follows: I'm currently using, 147008089916080 147008089916164 But is the 1470 strictly necessary, - And so I'm flabbergasted. Never would of thought it. But there it is. and so you think I should remove 1470 then ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
Martin Foster wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:26:21 +0100, Margot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Foster wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 Why are you using "1470" in front of your ISP's phone number? Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an account with them, it was unnecessary to use "1470". Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't! I use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they said the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd get charged for the call by BT! H, here's the result of a search for "1470" on BeeTee's Web site: "A customer with Permanent Number Withhold on their line can release their number on a per call basis by dialling 1470 before dialling the number of the person they would like to call. This means that the person they are calling will be able to see the caller's number on Caller Display or be told it through the free 1471 service." Now I'm confused. I have recently had to change my numbers, wanadoo says I must dial all the number, this was their reply from customer support, Hi John, Thank you for your email. These numbers are still working: 147008089916080 147008089916164 If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in contact with us again. I have a couple more , but am not supposed to use them, but they also have the 1470 included. I think the 1470080899 is common to all wanadoo numbers and they just vary the last digits to groups of customers in order to even out demand over their telephone line facilities. Whatever happens I don't want to break with the prepay fixed price connection facility. All my windblows OS's use the 1470 prefix, and I've been on this setup ages, it predates the problem by a mile. My MD8.1 uses the prefix too. I think I had better fire off an email to them and ask. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
Margot wrote: Martin Foster wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 Why are you using "1470" in front of your ISP's phone number? Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an account with them, it was unnecessary to use "1470". Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't! I use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they said the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd get charged for the call by BT! That is exactly how I understand it. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 20:46, John Richard Smith wrote: > Much obliged Raffaele,that was what I'm looking for, though I still have > a few lines unexplained, this is what I'm getting after a particular > recurrence like this, kppp logs on and emails download, > then halfway through the process my ISP seems to cut me off, this causes > kppp to redial with this error message, > > ATZ (initialisation string) > OK (returned an OK) > AT &F1 &V1 (second init string - but I'd suggest using: AT &F &C1 &D2 E1 Q0 V1 instead) > TERMINATION REASON.. NONE > LAST TX rate N/A > HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS (should be 57600bps) > LAST RX rate N/A > HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS (should be 57600bps) > PROTOCOL N/A > COMPRESSION. N/A > Line QUALITY 255 > Rx LEVEL 214 > Highest Rx State 00 > Highest TX State 00 > EQM Sum. > RBS Pattern. FF > Rate Drop... FF > Digital Loss > Local Rtrn Count 00 > Remote Rtrn Count... 00 > V90 > > OK > ATM1L1 > OK > ATDT147008089916080 > NO CARRIER > > Question is why no carrier ? (I think if you check the init string for "Hangup" - which should be ATH0, this won't happen) > The basic questions I need answering are, > > Am I being cut off because my ISP is overloaded and needs to make room > for others, I think it's line noise that cuts you off. Generally that's the main reason. stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures. -- Chief Justice Earl Warren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:26:21 +0100, Margot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Foster wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 Why are you using "1470" in front of your ISP's phone number? Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an account with them, it was unnecessary to use "1470". Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't! I use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they said the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd get charged for the call by BT! H, here's the result of a search for "1470" on BeeTee's Web site: "A customer with Permanent Number Withhold on their line can release their number on a per call basis by dialling 1470 before dialling the number of the person they would like to call. This means that the person they are calling will be able to see the caller's number on Caller Display or be told it through the free 1471 service." -- Martin Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
Margot wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: How to decypher dialupscript Where can I get a list of explanation of the messages the dial up window gives you in kppp ? John Not sure of what kppp prints since I don't use it, but V90 and older modems use the Hayes command set (i.e. AT commands), you can find explanation for example here: http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdenetwork/kppp/appendix-hayes-commands.html raffaele Much obliged Raffaele,that was what I'm looking for, though I still have a few lines unexplained, this is what I'm getting after a particular recurrence like this, kppp logs on and emails download, then halfway through the process my ISP seems to cut me off, this causes kppp to redial with this error message, ATZ OK AT &F1 &V1 TERMINATION REASON.. NONE LAST TX rate N/A HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS LAST RX rate N/A HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS PROTOCOL N/A COMPRESSION. N/A Line QUALITY 255 Rx LEVEL 214 Highest Rx State 00 Highest TX State 00 EQM Sum. RBS Pattern. FF Rate Drop... FF Digital Loss Local Rtrn Count 00 Remote Rtrn Count... 00 V90 OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 NO CARRIER Question is why no carrier ? Immediately I redial she logs on as usual. This has now become a pattern. I don't understand the scale of report in the "F's" and the numbers, like Line QUALITY.. 255, is that good bad or indifferent. All my searches in google have come up with no detailed explanation, and although your suggestion is very helpful it isn't complete, as far as I can see. The basic questions I need answering are, Am I being cut off because my ISP is overloaded and needs to make room for others, Am I being cut off because of line quality or modem config. Am I being cut off because of software like guarddog(don't think so, but I'm not sure) etc. Or what ? John John, Judging by your email address, you're using Wanadoo - formerly known as Freeserve - as your ISP. I've noticed a considerable deterioration in their service since the rebranding. Although I pay for the "Anytime" package (unlimited access, but limited to 2-hour sessions), the connection often drops before the 2-hour limit is up, and sometimes it takes several attempts to get reconnected. This makes downloading my Mdk updates a complete nightmare! So, although it is worth checking that everything else is working OK, it's probably a Wanadoo problem. Margot Indeed Margot you guessed right. I'm aware wanadoo ( some wag has already christened it can na doo) is a lousy service. But I'm not so sure it's the problem , got a feeling it's somthing to do with kppp and the config, or maybe my OS. You see I've another computer with an old MD8.1 on it and the same characteristic does not happen. That is a dialing up and into and retrieval of emails, followed by a premature cutoff before completion, kppp redials ending in no carrier, then, I manually restart to a smooth loggin again. Yes of course I get cut off, Wanadoo is a lousy service, but then they all are, it's just it's probably the least likely to fold of the dialup merchants here in the UK. So if MD8.1 can download emails without being cut off half way through , why cannot MD10.0CE ? So I'm a bit doubtful. I'm often complaining to wanadoo, for one thing they change their phone number more often than I have hot dinners. This suggests to me too little kit to service the demand, but before I do battle yet again, I'd like to be sure of my facts, that is one reason whyi supplied the kpp dialup script. I cannot find a good description of all pieces of script, some is pretty obvious, but then again it often ends in a letter or number and unless you know the scale to refer these to it's pretty meaningless. I've found a kppp manual on the web, but here again no reference to the bits I want. I would of thought there must be a definition somewhere. Just got to keep looking. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
Martin Foster wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 Why are you using "1470" in front of your ISP's phone number? Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an account with them, it was unnecessary to use "1470". Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't! I use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they said the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd get charged for the call by BT! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: How to decypher dialupscript Where can I get a list of explanation of the messages the dial up window gives you in kppp ? John Not sure of what kppp prints since I don't use it, but V90 and older modems use the Hayes command set (i.e. AT commands), you can find explanation for example here: http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdenetwork/kppp/appendix-hayes-commands.html raffaele Much obliged Raffaele,that was what I'm looking for, though I still have a few lines unexplained, this is what I'm getting after a particular recurrence like this, kppp logs on and emails download, then halfway through the process my ISP seems to cut me off, I doubt if it's your ISP that's cutting you off, it's more than likely that your modem's timing out. this causes kppp to redial with this error message, It's not actually an error message, it's a report generated by the "&V1" command. What modem is it? ATZ OK AT &F1 &V1 Try either "&F" or "&F2" instead of "&F1". Drop the "&V1" altogether. The "&V1" command isn't designed to be included in an init string, it's designed to be used after the connection has terminated to generate a report such as you have below: TERMINATION REASON.. NONE LAST TX rate N/A HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS LAST RX rate N/A HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS PROTOCOL N/A COMPRESSION. N/A Line QUALITY 255 Rx LEVEL 214 Highest Rx State 00 Highest TX State 00 EQM Sum. RBS Pattern. FF Rate Drop... FF Digital Loss Local Rtrn Count 00 Remote Rtrn Count... 00 V90 Hetre's a report I've just generated by typing "AT&V1" in a dumb terminal following my last call to my ISP: -- 8< -- at&v1 TERMINATION REASON.. LOCAL REQUEST LAST TX rate 26400 BPS HIGHEST TX rate. 26400 BPS LAST RX rate 44000 BPS HIGHEST RX rate. 45333 BPS PROTOCOL LAPM COMPRESSION. V42Bis Line QUALITY 023 Rx LEVEL 015 Highest Rx State 67 Highest TX State 87 EQM Sum. 00D6 Min Distance RBS Pattern. 00 Rate Drop... 00 Digital Loss 2000 Local Rtrn Count 00 Remote Rtrn Count... 00 Flex fail OK -- 8< -- OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 Why are you using "1470" in front of your ISP's phone number? Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an account with them, it was unnecessary to use "1470". NO CARRIER Question is why no carrier ? At this point in time, sorry, dunno. See my suggestions at the end. Immediately I redial she logs on as usual. This has now become a pattern. I don't understand the scale of report in the "F's" and the numbers, like Line QUALITY.. 255, is that good bad or indifferent. Ignore 'em :-) All my searches in google have come up with no detailed explanation, and although your suggestion is very helpful it isn't complete, as far as I can see. The basic questions I need answering are, Am I being cut off because my ISP is overloaded and needs to make room for others, I wouldn't have thought so. It's more than likely a modem init/config problem. Am I being cut off because of line quality or modem config. Am I being cut off because of software like guarddog(don't think so, but I'm not sure) etc. Or what ? I suspect you have a Rockwell chipped modem, similar to mine. If so, fire up KPPP, click the "Configure" button and then click the "Device" tab. Things to look for here are: Flow control should be set at "Hardware(CRTSCTS)" Line termination should be set at "CR" Connection speed should be "115200" Modem timeout should be set at "60" seconds or greater. Now click on the "Modem" tab. "Wait for dialtone before dialing" should be X'd. Now click on the "Modem commands" button. For starters, try "ATZ" in the "Initialisation 1" box. Leave the "Initialisation 2" box empty. "No dialtone detection" should be "ATX3" Now try it again and see what happens. Best of luck :-) Hope this helps. -- Martin Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
John Richard Smith wrote: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: How to decypher dialupscript Where can I get a list of explanation of the messages the dial up window gives you in kppp ? John Not sure of what kppp prints since I don't use it, but V90 and older modems use the Hayes command set (i.e. AT commands), you can find explanation for example here: http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdenetwork/kppp/appendix-hayes-commands.html raffaele Much obliged Raffaele,that was what I'm looking for, though I still have a few lines unexplained, this is what I'm getting after a particular recurrence like this, kppp logs on and emails download, then halfway through the process my ISP seems to cut me off, this causes kppp to redial with this error message, ATZ OK AT &F1 &V1 TERMINATION REASON.. NONE LAST TX rate N/A HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS LAST RX rate N/A HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS PROTOCOL N/A COMPRESSION. N/A Line QUALITY 255 Rx LEVEL 214 Highest Rx State 00 Highest TX State 00 EQM Sum. RBS Pattern. FF Rate Drop... FF Digital Loss Local Rtrn Count 00 Remote Rtrn Count... 00 V90 OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 NO CARRIER Question is why no carrier ? Immediately I redial she logs on as usual. This has now become a pattern. I don't understand the scale of report in the "F's" and the numbers, like Line QUALITY.. 255, is that good bad or indifferent. All my searches in google have come up with no detailed explanation, and although your suggestion is very helpful it isn't complete, as far as I can see. The basic questions I need answering are, Am I being cut off because my ISP is overloaded and needs to make room for others, Am I being cut off because of line quality or modem config. Am I being cut off because of software like guarddog(don't think so, but I'm not sure) etc. Or what ? John John, Judging by your email address, you're using Wanadoo - formerly known as Freeserve - as your ISP. I've noticed a considerable deterioration in their service since the rebranding. Although I pay for the "Anytime" package (unlimited access, but limited to 2-hour sessions), the connection often drops before the 2-hour limit is up, and sometimes it takes several attempts to get reconnected. This makes downloading my Mdk updates a complete nightmare! So, although it is worth checking that everything else is working OK, it's probably a Wanadoo problem. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
John Rye wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100 John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: How to decypher dialupscript Where can I get a list of explanation of the messages the dial up window gives you in kppp ? John Not sure of what kppp prints since I don't use it, but V90 and older modems use the Hayes command set (i.e. AT commands), you can find explanation for example here: http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdenetwork/kppp/appendix-hayes-commands.html raffaele Much obliged Raffaele,that was what I'm looking for, though I still have a few lines unexplained, this is what I'm getting after a particular recurrence like this, kppp logs on and emails download, then halfway through the process my ISP seems to cut me off, this causes kppp to redial with this error message, ATZ OK AT &F1 &V1 TERMINATION REASON.. NONE LAST TX rate N/A HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS LAST RX rate N/A HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS PROTOCOL N/A COMPRESSION. N/A Line QUALITY 255 Rx LEVEL 214 Highest Rx State 00 Highest TX State 00 EQM Sum. RBS Pattern. FF Rate Drop... FF Digital Loss Local Rtrn Count 00 Remote Rtrn Count... 00 V90 OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 NO CARRIER Question is why no carrier ? Immediately I redial she logs on as usual. This has now become a pattern. I don't understand the scale of report in the "F's" and the numbers, like Line QUALITY.. 255, is that good bad or indifferent. All my searches in google have come up with no detailed explanation, and although your suggestion is very helpful it isn't complete, as far as I can see. The basic questions I need answering are, Am I being cut off because my ISP is overloaded and needs to make room for others, Am I being cut off because of line quality or modem config. Am I being cut off because of software like guarddog(don't think so, but I'm not sure) etc. What do you have in /etc/ppp/options ??? John (nz) lock noauth noipdefault usepeerdns John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100 John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > > > John Richard Smith wrote: > > > >> How to decypher dialupscript > >> > >> Where can I get a list of explanation of the messages the dial up > >> window gives you in kppp ? > >> > >> John > > > > > > Not sure of what kppp prints since I don't use it, but V90 and older > > modems use the Hayes command set (i.e. AT commands), you can find > > explanation for example here: > > > > http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdenetwork/kppp/appendix-hayes-commands.html > > > > raffaele > > Much obliged Raffaele,that was what I'm looking for, though I still have > a few lines unexplained, this is what I'm getting after a particular > recurrence like this, kppp logs on and emails download, > then halfway through the process my ISP seems to cut me off, this causes > kppp to redial with this error message, > > ATZ > OK > AT &F1 &V1 > TERMINATION REASON.. NONE > LAST TX rate N/A > HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS > LAST RX rate N/A > HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS > PROTOCOL N/A > COMPRESSION. N/A > Line QUALITY 255 > Rx LEVEL 214 > Highest Rx State 00 > Highest TX State 00 > EQM Sum. > RBS Pattern. FF > Rate Drop... FF > Digital Loss > Local Rtrn Count 00 > Remote Rtrn Count... 00 > V90 > > OK > ATM1L1 > OK > ATDT147008089916080 > NO CARRIER > > Question is why no carrier ? > > Immediately I redial she logs on as usual. > > This has now become a pattern. > > I don't understand the scale of report in the "F's" and the numbers, > like Line QUALITY.. 255, is that good bad or indifferent. > > All my searches in google have come up with no detailed explanation, and > although your suggestion is very helpful it isn't complete, as far as I > can see. > > The basic questions I need answering are, > > Am I being cut off because my ISP is overloaded and needs to make room > for others, > > Am I being cut off because of line quality or modem config. > > Am I being cut off because of software like guarddog(don't think so, but > I'm not sure) etc. What do you have in /etc/ppp/options ??? John (nz) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
