Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rodolfo, You should realy find the development package for the Xaw3d library. To compile the package yourself, you will need to install a LOT more source. Basicly, you need the X source. You also need more help then I can give you to do it that way. While it would be a good learning experence, it probably isn't one you are ready for yet. (I am not sure I am ready for it, and I have a fair amount of experence building from source.) O.k., Mikkel, you convinced me (however I don't dislike learning to compile packages from source, in fact in future I'm thinking of getting into Linux From Scratch). From http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk.i586.html I downloaded libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk.i586.rpm, copied into ~/tmp and there did: # rpm -i libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk.i586.rpm . Now, when I run `$ ./configure' from Emacs CVS source dir, there are all `yes': Does Emacs use -lXaw3d? yes Does Emacs use -lXpm? yes Does Emacs use -ljpeg? yes Does Emacs use -ltiff? yes Does Emacs use -lungif? yes Does Emacs use -lpng? yes Does Emacs use X toolkit scroll bars? yes . Your help was important as usual. Thanks. Rodolfo P.S.: What do you think about Linux from Scratch? I am glad I could help. It is how I "give something back"... While I think it is a good thing to learn to compile packages yourself, and build your own RPMs, I also think it is a good idea to start with smaller packages, and work your way up. Trying to learn too many different things at once can be a real headache. When installing RPMs, it does not matter where the file is when you run install. The directories rpm uses for temp files, and such are determined by the system configuration of rpm. (The exception to this is source RPMs installed by the user - the user's configuration file overrides the system settings.) So you could have installed from the download directory. Linux from Scratch looks like fun. I wish I had the time to play with it. But right now, most of my spare time is devoted to learning the ins and outs of Mandrake. I have a lot of things to learn yet, especially with the changes in 10.1 and mastering udev. But I think my next project will be trying to solve how I locked up the USB subsystem on this box. If I run lsusb, it just locks up right now... :-( Mikkel I'm struggling with udev also in that I have got it working at times but something is making it unreliable. I suspect that devfs is still in there somewhere and I have learnt elsewhere that udev and devfs do not work side by side. Let us know how you succeed as I'm sure you will. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rodolfo, You should realy find the development package for the Xaw3d library. To compile the package yourself, you will need to install a LOT more source. Basicly, you need the X source. You also need more help then I can give you to do it that way. While it would be a good learning experence, it probably isn't one you are ready for yet. (I am not sure I am ready for it, and I have a fair amount of experence building from source.) O.k., Mikkel, you convinced me (however I don't dislike learning to compile packages from source, in fact in future I'm thinking of getting into Linux From Scratch). From http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk.i586.html I downloaded libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk.i586.rpm, copied into ~/tmp and there did: # rpm -i libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk.i586.rpm . Now, when I run `$ ./configure' from Emacs CVS source dir, there are all `yes': Does Emacs use -lXaw3d? yes Does Emacs use -lXpm? yes Does Emacs use -ljpeg? yes Does Emacs use -ltiff? yes Does Emacs use -lungif? yes Does Emacs use -lpng? yes Does Emacs use X toolkit scroll bars? yes . Your help was important as usual. Thanks. Rodolfo P.S.: What do you think about Linux from Scratch? I am glad I could help. It is how I "give something back"... While I think it is a good thing to learn to compile packages yourself, and build your own RPMs, I also think it is a good idea to start with smaller packages, and work your way up. Trying to learn too many different things at once can be a real headache. When installing RPMs, it does not matter where the file is when you run install. The directories rpm uses for temp files, and such are determined by the system configuration of rpm. (The exception to this is source RPMs installed by the user - the user's configuration file overrides the system settings.) So you could have installed from the download directory. Linux from Scratch looks like fun. I wish I had the time to play with it. But right now, most of my spare time is devoted to learning the ins and outs of Mandrake. I have a lot of things to learn yet, especially with the changes in 10.1 and mastering udev. But I think my next project will be trying to solve how I locked up the USB subsystem on this box. If I run lsusb, it just locks up right now... :-( Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
Aron Smith wrote: On Saturday 12 March 2005 03:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: O.k., Mikkel, you convinced me (however I don't dislike learning to compile packages from source, in fact in future I'm thinking of getting into Linux From Scratch) Will be intrested in how you come out on this Linux from Scratch [ www.linuxfromscratch.org ] is something I myself would recommend for those new to Linux so do not take the following as anything other than a possible alternative. In your case I suspect you are capable of digging a little into the Linux system so would suggest that a copy of LPIC would be more helpful. It is a great reference book in simple to understand language and though points towards certification, I am actually learning heaps using it. So if you are leaning this way take a look here : http://www.examcram2.com/title/0789731274 Hoping this doesn't confuse. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
On Saturday 12 March 2005 03:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > O.k., Mikkel, you convinced me (however I don't dislike learning to compile > packages from source, in fact in future I'm thinking of getting into > Linux From Scratch) Will be intrested in how you come out on this Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > From: > ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/widgets/Xaw3d/R6.3/ > I downloaded the package Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz > but have problems with its installation > (I have Mandrake 10.1 Community). > Can anyone provide help? > when I build Emacs CVS it doesn't detect the presence of Xaw3d > in my system: in fact, when I run `$ ./configure' > from Emacs CVS source dir, the following output appears: > > Does Emacs use -lXaw3d? no > Does Emacs use -lXpm? yes > Does Emacs use -ljpeg? yes > Does Emacs use -ltiff? yes > Does Emacs use -lungif? yes > Does Emacs use -lpng? yes > Does Emacs use X toolkit scroll bars? no Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Rodolfo, > You should realy find the development package for the Xaw3d library. > To compile the package yourself, you will need to install a LOT more > source. Basicly, you need the X source. You also need more help then I > can give you to do it that way. While it would be a good learning > experence, it probably isn't one you are ready for yet. (I am not sure I > am ready for it, and I have a fair amount of experence building from > source.) O.k., Mikkel, you convinced me (however I don't dislike learning to compile packages from source, in fact in future I'm thinking of getting into Linux From Scratch). From http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk.i586.html I downloaded libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk.i586.rpm, copied into ~/tmp and there did: # rpm -i libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk.i586.rpm . Now, when I run `$ ./configure' from Emacs CVS source dir, there are all `yes': Does Emacs use -lXaw3d? yes Does Emacs use -lXpm? yes Does Emacs use -ljpeg? yes Does Emacs use -ltiff? yes Does Emacs use -lungif? yes Does Emacs use -lpng? yes Does Emacs use X toolkit scroll bars? yes . Your help was important as usual. Thanks. Rodolfo P.S.: What do you think about Linux from Scratch? Navighi a 2 MEGA e i primi 3 mesi sono GRATIS. Scegli Libero Adsl Flat senza limiti su http://www.libero.it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rodolfo Medina wrote: From: ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/widgets/Xaw3d/R6.3/ I downloaded the package Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz but have problems with its installation (I have Mandrake 10.1 Community). Can anyone provide help? In the README.XAW3D file contained in the distribution the following steps are prescribed: $ gunzip -c Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz | tar xpf - $ cd xc/lib/Xaw3d $ ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d $ make includes $ make depend $ make # make install . But when I do $ ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d I get the error message: bash: ../../config/imake/imake: No such file or directory . Any suggestion? Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I would run "urpmi libXaw3d7" and use the pre-build Mandrake package. But if you realy want to compile it yourself, start by installing the libxorg-x11-devel package. It contains imake, along with other things you will need. Then you will need to see what other development packages you need to build the Xaw3d libraries... Rodolfo: Mandrake answers me: `Everything already installed' in both cases, i.e. when I say `# urpmi libXaw3d7' and also whan I say `# urpmilibxorg-x11-devel'. But the trouble is, that when I build Emacs CVS it doesn't detect the presence of Xaw3d in my system (that's why I tried to install it manually): in fact, when I run `$ ./configure' from Emacs CVS source dir, the following output appears: Does Emacs use -lXaw3d? no Does Emacs use -lXpm? yes Does Emacs use -ljpeg? yes Does Emacs use -ltiff? yes Does Emacs use -lungif? yes Does Emacs use -lpng? yes Does Emacs use X toolkit scroll bars? no . I had to install manually also jpeg, tiff, gif and png in order to get those 'yes'. Any other suggestion? Mikkel: Run "urpmi libXaw3d7-devel", "urpmi libtiff3-devel", and so forth for all the packages you need. The libraries are probably already installed, but you need the development packages that go with them if you want to compile your own programs that use them. Unfortunately: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rodolfo]# urpmi libXaw3d7-devel no package named libXaw3d7-devel This is strange. Are you running 10.1? If I do a search for Xaw3d packages, I get "libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk". I already have the libXaw3d7-1.5-13mdk package installed. Mikkel: If you realy want to compile it yourself, you can probable run imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d instead of ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d Unfortunately: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xaw3d]$ imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d Imakefile.c:35: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 1. Stop. <[ SNIP ]---> . I'm no linux expert and don't know what the author Kaleb S. KEITHLEY means with the R6.[134] source tree and the importance to build the package from the base of my source tree... I tried to write to him, but the address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to be wrong. (Maybe it's better: I suppose he'd've gone very angry if he'd read may mail!) Any other hint? Thanks, Rodolfo Rodolfo, You should realy find the development package for the Xaw3d library. To compile the package yourself, you will need to install a LOT more source. Basicly, you need the X source. You also need more help then I can give you to do it that way. While it would be a good learning experence, it probably isn't one you are ready for yet. (I am not sure I am ready for it, and I have a fair amount of experence building from source.) If your urpmi sources don't list it, and you are running 10.1, you can get it from here: http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/libXaw3d7-devel-1.5-13mdk.i586.html Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > From: > ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/widgets/Xaw3d/R6.3/ > I downloaded the package Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz > but have problems with its installation > (I have Mandrake 10.1 Community). > Can anyone provide help? > > In the README.XAW3D file contained in the distribution > the following steps are prescribed: > > $ gunzip -c Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz | tar xpf - > $ cd xc/lib/Xaw3d > $ ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. > -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d > $ make includes > $ make depend > $ make > # make install > > . But when I do > $ ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. > -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d > I get the error message: > > bash: ../../config/imake/imake: No such file or directory > > . Any suggestion? Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > I would run "urpmi libXaw3d7" and use the pre-build Mandrake package. > But if you realy want to compile it yourself, start by installing the > libxorg-x11-devel package. It contains imake, along with other things > you will need. Then you will need to see what other development packages > you need to build the Xaw3d libraries... Rodolfo: > Mandrake answers me: `Everything already installed' in both cases, i.e. > when I say `# urpmi libXaw3d7' and also whan I say `# urpmilibxorg-x11-devel'. > But the trouble is, that when I build Emacs CVS it doesn't detect the presence of Xaw3d > in my system (that's why I tried to install it manually): in fact, when I run `$ ./configure' > from Emacs CVS source dir, the following output appears: > > Does Emacs use -lXaw3d? no > Does Emacs use -lXpm? yes > Does Emacs use -ljpeg? yes > Does Emacs use -ltiff? yes > Does Emacs use -lungif? yes > Does Emacs use -lpng? yes > Does Emacs use X toolkit scroll bars? no > > . I had to install manually also jpeg, tiff, gif and png in order to get those 'yes'. > Any other suggestion? Mikkel: > Run "urpmi libXaw3d7-devel", "urpmi libtiff3-devel", and so forth for > all the packages you need. The libraries are probably already installed, > but you need the development packages that go with them if you want to > compile your own programs that use them. Unfortunately: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rodolfo]# urpmi libXaw3d7-devel no package named libXaw3d7-devel Mikkel: > If you realy want to compile it yourself, you can probable run > > imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d > > instead of > > ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. > -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d Unfortunately: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xaw3d]$ imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d Imakefile.c:35: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 1. Stop. . In the README.XAW3D file contained in the Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz package, it is written: Notes on Building Xaw3d Outside an X Source Tree: The source is intended to be built inside an R6.[134] source tree. You can use an X Consortium source tree (R6.1, R6.3), an X Project Team source tree (R6.4), or any XFree86 source tree that corresponds to one of the X Consortium or X Project Team source trees. You might be able to build it outside the source tree, but if you try, (pay attention here) YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. Don't send me email about it. Don't send me email telling me you "...know you're on your own, but..." It's hard enough to find time to put out these releases, I don't have time for handholding if you choose to disregard this advice. If you don't have a source tree, for whatever reason, plan on using binaries built by someone else. I'm sorry, that's just the way it has to be. Some people have written to me and told me that if you add the following line to the Imakefile: EXTRA_INCLUDES=-I. then you can build it anywhere you want, i.e. outside the R6 source tree. If this works for you, great. If not, see above. To simplify things a bit I've already added this line to the Imakefile. Just uncomment it (by deleting the '#' at the beginning of the line. [...] Building: Untar the distribution from the base of your X Consortium or XFree86 source tree with the command: `gunzip -c Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz | tar xpf -` or (if your system's tar supports the 'z' option) `tar xzpf Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz` (PAY ATTENTION HERE: If you don't know where the base of your source tree is, don't send me email asking -- I don't know where you put it. If you don't know, my guess is that you don't have one.) This will create the directory .../xc/lib/Xaw3d. 'cd' there and enter the following commands: `../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d` `make includes; make depend; make; make install` . I'm no linux
Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I would run "urpmi libXaw3d7" and use the pre-build Mandrake package. But if you realy want to compile it yourself, start by installing the libxorg-x11-devel package. It contains imake, along with other things you will need. Then you will need to see what other development packages you need to build the Xaw3d libraries... Thanks. Mandrake answers me: `Everything already installed' in both cases, i.e. when I say `# urpmi libXaw3d7' and also whan I say `# urpmilibxorg-x11-devel'. But the trouble is, that when I build Emacs CVS it doesn't detect the presence of Xaw3d in my system (that's why I tried to install it manually): in fact, when I run `$ ./configure' from Emacs CVS source dir, the following output appears: Does Emacs use -lXaw3d? no Does Emacs use -lXpm? yes Does Emacs use -ljpeg? yes Does Emacs use -ltiff? yes Does Emacs use -lungif? yes Does Emacs use -lpng? yes Does Emacs use X toolkit scroll bars? no . I had to install manually also jpeg, tiff, gif and png in order to get those 'yes'. Any other suggestion? Rodolfo Run "urpmi libXaw3d7-devel", "urpmi libtiff3-devel", and so forth for all the packages you need. The libraries are probably already installed, but you need the development packages that go with them if you want to compile your own programs that use them. If you realy want to compile it yourself, you can probable run imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d instead of ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d but I think you would be better off installing the development packages instead of compiling the libraries yourself. Unless you are carefull about how you do it, you stand a good chance of breaking things, especialy if there is a security update for one of the packages. Having a library installed as an rpm, and then compiling and installing the same library is not realy a good idea. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > From: > ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/widgets/Xaw3d/R6.3/ > I downloaded the package Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz > but have problems with its installation > (I have Mandrake 10.1 Community). > Can anyone provide help? > > In the README.XAW3D file contained in the distribution > the following steps are prescribed: > > $ gunzip -c Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz | tar xpf - > $ cd xc/lib/Xaw3d > $ ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. > -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d > $ make includes > $ make depend > $ make > $ make install > > . But when I do > $ ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. > -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d > I get the error message: > > bash: ../../config/imake/imake: No such file or directory > > . Any suggestion? Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > I would run "urpmi libXaw3d7" and use the pre-build Mandrake package. > But if you realy want to compile it yourself, start by installing the > libxorg-x11-devel package. It contains imake, along with other things > you will need. Then you will need to see what other development packages > you need to build the Xaw3d libraries... Thanks. Mandrake answers me: `Everything already installed' in both cases, i.e. when I say `# urpmi libXaw3d7' and also whan I say `# urpmilibxorg-x11-devel'. But the trouble is, that when I build Emacs CVS it doesn't detect the presence of Xaw3d in my system (that's why I tried to install it manually): in fact, when I run `$ ./configure' from Emacs CVS source dir, the following output appears: Does Emacs use -lXaw3d? no Does Emacs use -lXpm? yes Does Emacs use -ljpeg? yes Does Emacs use -ltiff? yes Does Emacs use -lungif? yes Does Emacs use -lpng? yes Does Emacs use X toolkit scroll bars? no . I had to install manually also jpeg, tiff, gif and png in order to get those 'yes'. Any other suggestion? Rodolfo 6X velocizzare la tua navigazione a 56k? 6X Web Accelerator di Libero! Scaricalo su INTERNET GRATIS 6X http://www.libero.it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all the listers. From: ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/widgets/Xaw3d/R6.3/ I downloaded the package Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz but have problems with its installation (I have Mandrake 10.1 Community). Can anyone provide help? In the README.XAW3D file contained in the distribution the following steps are prescribed: $ gunzip -c Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz | tar xpf - $ cd xc/lib/Xaw3d $ ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d $ make includes $ make depend $ make $ make install . But when I do $ ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d I get the error message: bash: ../../config/imake/imake: No such file or directory . Any suggestion? Thanks, Rodolfo I would run "urpmi libXaw3d7" and use the pre-build Mandrake package. But if you realy want to compile it yourself, start by installing the libxorg-x11-devel package. It contains imake, along with other things you will need. Then you will need to see what other development packages you need to build the Xaw3d libraries... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] How to install Xaw3d?
Hi, all the listers. From: ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/widgets/Xaw3d/R6.3/ I downloaded the package Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz but have problems with its installation (I have Mandrake 10.1 Community). Can anyone provide help? In the README.XAW3D file contained in the distribution the following steps are prescribed: $ gunzip -c Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz | tar xpf - $ cd xc/lib/Xaw3d $ ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d $ make includes $ make depend $ make $ make install . But when I do $ ../../config/imake/imake -I../../config/cf -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURRENTDIR=lib/Xaw3d I get the error message: bash: ../../config/imake/imake: No such file or directory . Any suggestion? Thanks, Rodolfo 6X velocizzare la tua navigazione a 56k? 6X Web Accelerator di Libero! Scaricalo su INTERNET GRATIS 6X http://www.libero.it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com