Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-15 Thread g


Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:05, Wade Waldron wrote:

I would like to install hardware while bypassing the Mandrake

Bypassing the GUI or what?
Because hardware detection is going to initiate during the bootup
another question is just what hardware it is that he is wanting to install. :)

peace out.

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-11 Thread Derek Jennings
Thanks for identifying the driver source bascule.
If you look at the latest source code for the driver 
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pegasus2/pegasus/pegasus.h
you can see the Microsoft adapter was added to the source 4 weeks and 5 days 
ago.

From the latest source we can see
VENDOR_MICROSOFT0x045e
PEGASUS_DEV( "Microsoft MN-110", VENDOR_MICROSOFT, 0x007a,
DEFAULT_GPIO_RESET | PEGASUS_II )

Adding the line
pegasus  0x0003 0x045e   0x007a0x   0x   0x00 
0x000x000x000x000x00
0x

(That is all one line) to /etc/hotplug/usb.handmap  should cause the driver to 
be loaded whenever the USB adapter is plugged in.

If that does not work then you may have to compile the driver from CVS which 
is quite a lot more work for a newbie.

derek


On Friday 11 Jul 2003 7:31 am, bascule wrote:
> wade,
> well seeing as how it's a microsoft piece of kit i'd guess that the odds of
> them realeasing drivers are vanishingly small, however according to:
> http://www.linux-usb.org/devices.html
> under 'network adapters' the top two entries looks promising, you will need
> to know what speed usb port you have, note the second entry seems to imply
> that you need a later kernel
> it's also not obvious what the actual driver names are from the devices
> listed there :)
> however assuming that a)the pegasus driver is what you want
> b) you have your usb system up and running
> then hopefully
> #modprobe pegasus (note done as root)
> will load the driver, if not you could try some of the other drivers listed
> under /lib/modules/2./kernel/drivers/usb/
> use
> #modinfo 
> to see what sort of driver it is
>
> now the next bit i could be wrong! :)
> assuming the driver is correct then you will need to set up an interface
> using that device, assuming you haven't any already then i think you may be
> talking 'usb0' from something i read online
> if you do:
> # ifconfig -a
> you should hopefully see a refernce to usb0 or indeed to a net interface
> that didn't use to be there, if so then you need to set it up,
>  i believe you will need to create a file under
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/
> called ifcgf-usb0 (assuming usb0 is the interface name) that has something
> like:
> BOOTPROTO=static
> BROADCAST=192.168.129.255
> IPADDR=192.168.129.1
> NETMASK=255.255.255.0
> NETWORK=192.168.129.0
> DEVICE=usb0
>
> this assumes a static ip for the interface, you will have to adjust
> accordingly
> or
>
> DEVICE=usb0
> USERCTL=no
> ONBOOT=yes
> BOOTPROTO=dhcp
> IPADDR=
> NETMASK=
> NETWORK=0.0.0.0
> BROADCAST=255.255.255.255
> DHCP_CLIENT=/sbin/dhcpcd
>
> for a dhcp assigned ip
> i ripped that from my dhcp assigned interface on my mandrake firewall so i
> figure it should be the right format, not you would have to have
> /sbin/dhcpcd on your system
>
> then you should be able to do
> #ifup usb0
>
> and if it works
> #ifconfig
> should show it up and running
> then you would need to add your pegasus module (or whatever it turns out to
> be) to your start up files, that would either be /etc/modules
> with a line:
> pegasus
>
> or /etc/modules.conf
> with a line:
> alias usb0 pegasus
>
> i'm not sure if both would work and if so which is better form
>
> for how wrong i am with this advice wait for others to comment! :)
>
> bascule
>
> On Friday 11 Jul 2003 3:24 am, Wade Waldron wrote:
> > Microsoft MN-110 USB ethernet adapter.
> >
> > Wade
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Carroll Grigsby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware
> >
> > > On Thursday 10 July 2003 08:15 pm, Wade Waldron wrote:
> > > > Okay, maybe some more background is needed.  When I run the mandrake
> > > > configuration utility, and look under the listed hardware I have a
> > > > few unknown devices (like my network adapter).  I have looked around
> > > > and
> >
> > found
> >
> > > > that my network adapter probably uses the pegasus driver.  I would
> > > > like

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-11 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 11 Jul 2003 2:15 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> On Thursday 10 July 2003 08:15 pm, Wade Waldron wrote:
> > Okay, maybe some more background is needed.  When I run the mandrake
> > configuration utility, and look under the listed hardware I have a few
> > unknown devices (like my network adapter).  I have looked around and
> > found that my network adapter probably uses the pegasus driver.  I would
> > like to set it up to use that driver to see if that will work.  I can not
> > see anywhere in the Configuration utility that allows me to assign a
> > driver to a device.  When I highlight the device, there are no options
> > buttons or configuration buttons that show up.  When I right or left
> > click I get nothing.  On the Right hand side it shows that there is no
> > module loaded for that device so I try clicking there and nothing
> > happens.  None of the menus have any options that suggest I can do that. 
> > I ran the networking wizard, but nothing there seemed to help because it
> > can't seem to find my network adapter (presumably because it is an
> > unknown device) besides, that won't help with my other devices like my
> > CD-RW.  There must be a way to manually assign a driver to a device, but
> > for the life of me, I can not seem to find it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wade
>
> Wade:
> Exactly what adapter are you trying to install (manufacturer and model
> number)?
> -- cmg


The pegasus driver is a USB driver so are we to assume we are talking about a 
usb device?
If so then the driver will be loaded by USB hotplugging. When the device is 
plugged in its vendor code and device code will be read from the USB bus and 
compared to the lookup tables in /etc/hotplug/usb.distmap or usb.usermap or 
usb.handmap.  If a match is found then the appropriate driver is loaded.

It may be there is no table entry for your device in which case you should run 
usbview so you can read the device/vendor codes and make an entry yourself in 
usb.handmap.  Once the driver is loading OK the networking wizard should be 
able to configure it.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-11 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 20:15, Wade Waldron wrote:
> Okay, maybe some more background is needed.  When I run the mandrake
> configuration utility, and look under the listed hardware I have a few
> unknown devices (like my network adapter).  I have looked around and
> found that my network adapter probably uses the pegasus driver.  I
> would like to set it up to use that driver to see if that will work. 
> I can not see anywhere in the Configuration utility that allows me to
> assign a driver to a device.  When I highlight the device, there are
> no options buttons or configuration buttons that show up.  When I
> right or left click I get nothing.  On the Right hand side it shows
> that there is no module loaded for that device so I try clicking there
> and nothing happens.  None of the menus have any options that suggest
> I can do that.  I ran the networking wizard, but nothing there seemed
> to help because it can't seem to find my network adapter (presumably
> because it is an unknown device) besides, that won't help with my
> other devices like my CD-RW.  There must be a way to manually assign a
> driver to a device, but for the life of me, I can not seem to find it.
>  
> Thanks,
> Wade

I've got a suggestion that might work for you.  Drakconf detects
hardware changes when a system is booted.  What you could do is shut the
system down, pull the network card, boot it back up, answer the
configuration questions such that there is no network card, and then
shut the system down again.

Reinstall the network card and boot the system.  Drakconf should go thru
a detection routine and your network card will be redetected.

If the system cannot then detect the card properly, you are left with
two choices.  Either get a supported card, or manually configure the
driver that you actually need into the config files with vi.  Assuming
that it will work with your card.  I can help with the manual config
changes if you need it.

Let me know how it goes. :)

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-10 Thread bascule
wade,
well seeing as how it's a microsoft piece of kit i'd guess that the odds of 
them realeasing drivers are vanishingly small, however according to:
http://www.linux-usb.org/devices.html
under 'network adapters' the top two entries looks promising, you will need to 
know what speed usb port you have, note the second entry seems to imply that 
you need a later kernel
it's also not obvious what the actual driver names are from the devices listed 
there :)
however assuming that a)the pegasus driver is what you want
b) you have your usb system up and running
then hopefully
#modprobe pegasus (note done as root)
will load the driver, if not you could try some of the other drivers listed 
under /lib/modules/2./kernel/drivers/usb/
use
#modinfo 
to see what sort of driver it is

now the next bit i could be wrong! :)
assuming the driver is correct then you will need to set up an interface using 
that device, assuming you haven't any already then i think you may be talking 
'usb0' from something i read online
if you do:
# ifconfig -a
you should hopefully see a refernce to usb0 or indeed to a net interface that 
didn't use to be there, if so then you need to set it up,
 i believe you will need to create a file under 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/
called ifcgf-usb0 (assuming usb0 is the interface name) that has something 
like:
BOOTPROTO=static
BROADCAST=192.168.129.255
IPADDR=192.168.129.1
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=192.168.129.0
DEVICE=usb0

this assumes a static ip for the interface, you will have to adjust 
accordingly
or

DEVICE=usb0
USERCTL=no
ONBOOT=yes
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
IPADDR=
NETMASK=
NETWORK=0.0.0.0
BROADCAST=255.255.255.255
DHCP_CLIENT=/sbin/dhcpcd

for a dhcp assigned ip
i ripped that from my dhcp assigned interface on my mandrake firewall so i 
figure it should be the right format, not you would have to have /sbin/dhcpcd 
on your system

then you should be able to do 
#ifup usb0

and if it works
#ifconfig
should show it up and running
then you would need to add your pegasus module (or whatever it turns out to 
be) to your start up files, that would either be /etc/modules
with a line:
pegasus

or /etc/modules.conf
with a line:
alias usb0 pegasus

i'm not sure if both would work and if so which is better form

for how wrong i am with this advice wait for others to comment! :)

bascule



On Friday 11 Jul 2003 3:24 am, Wade Waldron wrote:
> Microsoft MN-110 USB ethernet adapter.
>
> Wade
> - Original Message -
> From: "Carroll Grigsby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware
>
> > On Thursday 10 July 2003 08:15 pm, Wade Waldron wrote:
> > > Okay, maybe some more background is needed.  When I run the mandrake
> > > configuration utility, and look under the listed hardware I have a few
> > > unknown devices (like my network adapter).  I have looked around and
>
> found
>
> > > that my network adapter probably uses the pegasus driver.  I would like
>
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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-10 Thread Wade Waldron



Okay, maybe some more background is needed.  
When I run the mandrake configuration utility, and look under the listed 
hardware I have a few unknown devices (like my network adapter).  I have 
looked around and found that my network adapter probably uses the pegasus 
driver.  I would like to set it up to use that driver to see if that will 
work.  I can not see anywhere in the Configuration utility that allows me 
to assign a driver to a device.  When I highlight the device, there are no 
options buttons or configuration buttons that show up.  When I right or 
left click I get nothing.  On the Right hand side it shows that there is no 
module loaded for that device so I try clicking there and nothing happens.  
None of the menus have any options that suggest I can do that.  I ran 
the networking wizard, but nothing there seemed to help because it can't 
seem to find my network adapter (presumably because it is an unknown device) 
besides, that won't help with my other devices like my CD-RW.  There must 
be a way to manually assign a driver to a device, but for the life of me, I can 
not seem to find it.
 
Thanks,
Wade

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Wade 
  Waldron 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:05 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] Installing new 
  hardware
  
  I would like to install hardware while bypassing 
  the Mandrake configuration utility.  Can someone give me an idea where to 
  start.  Basically the hardware is installed, I just need to make the 
  system aware of it and set up the drivers.
   
  Wade


Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-10 Thread bascule
wade,

to do things manually (is there a specific reason for that by the way?), 
you'll need to specify the hardware you have installed so that folk can tell 
you what needs to be done - assuming we know!

bascule

On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 6:05 am, Wade Waldron wrote:
> I would like to install hardware while bypassing the Mandrake configuration
> utility.  Can someone give me an idea where to start.  Basically the
> hardware is installed, I just need to make the system aware of it and set
> up the drivers.
>
> Wade

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-10 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:05, Wade Waldron wrote:
> I would like to install hardware while bypassing the Mandrake
> configuration utility.  Can someone give me an idea where to start. 
> Basically the hardware is installed, I just need to make the system
> aware of it and set up the drivers.
>  
> Wade

Bypassing the GUI or what?
Because hardware detection is going to initiate during the bootup
process, it's almost impossible. Unless you want to bypass logging into
the GUI so that you can tailor the configuration prior to actually
starting XWindows - but you'd have to put your system into runlevel 3 so
that it starts up with all the normal multiuser services and processes;
then you can start the GUI as desired?

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-10 Thread ed tharp
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 01:35, JoeHill wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:05:00 -0600
> Wade Waldron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > I just need to make the system aware of it and set up the drivers.
> 
> That's what Mandrake Control Center does...if it didn't load them when
> you booted, that is.
yea, but Joe, (I guess you are reading to quickly) he said "while
bypassing the Mandrake configuration utility"

kinda like, "I want to ride the bike, but I don't want to touch the
pedals and I don't know how to balance. where is the bike stored?"

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-09 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:05:00 -0600
Wade Waldron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> I just need to make the system aware of it and set up the drivers.

That's what Mandrake Control Center does...if it didn't load them when
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[newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-09 Thread Wade Waldron



I would like to install hardware while bypassing 
the Mandrake configuration utility.  Can someone give me an idea where to 
start.  Basically the hardware is installed, I just need to make the system 
aware of it and set up the drivers.
 
Wade


Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-10 Thread skinky

On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 02:00, Tom Brinkman wrote:
|  It won't break.  You could try to break it tho ;)  IIRC, early on
|  in the kerenl config, there's an option called 'big' or 'high' memory
|  support. It's off by default in what I'm calling a regular kernel. If
|  you recompile the kernel with this option on, then the kernel will be
|  able to address megagigs of ram.  Problem is I vaguely remember it's
|  off for good reasons, ie, high memory support in a 'regular' kernel
|  can break or degrade other stuff ;>  If you do recompile, I suggest
|  you edit the Makefile's  EXTRAVERSION = -?mdk to somethin else, say
|  = -big , so you'll have a completely new kernel version and you can
|  keep your existing kernel.
|
| FWIW, as long as you're in there installing new ram, pull out that
|  existing 128mb stick, clean the contacts lightly with a pencil eraser
|  and re-install it.  Also, re-seat all your other stuff like IDE
|  cables, peripheal cards, etc. Clean any dust bunnies out of all the
|  heatsinks. Can't hurt, may save you some future problems


Tom, thanks for the advice and the extra tips! Muchly appreciated.

I've decided to install all the ram and the enterprise kernel alongside 
the 'regular' kernel and see how that goes.

This kernel thing is also a first for me but I've been following the 
threads on installing kernels and saved all the relevant posts.  I'll hang 
on to your advice should I later decide to recompile.

I'll read up some docs on kernels (the enterprise one in particular) 
tonight.

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-10 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Saturday 10 November 2001 04:00 am, skinky wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:44, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> |
> | The regular kernel will work as always, it just won't see
> | more'n about 900+mb of ram.

> Well anyway, thats good news Tom, thanks.  I'll put the two new
> 512mb sticks in slots 2 & 3 like you said, and leave the 128mb
> stick in the first slot... then I'll hold my breath while I wait to
> see if anything breaks!
>
> skinky

It won't break.  You could try to break it tho ;)  IIRC, early on 
in the kerenl config, there's an option called 'big' or 'high' memory 
support. It's off by default in what I'm calling a regular kernel. If 
you recompile the kernel with this option on, then the kernel will be 
able to address megagigs of ram.  Problem is I vaguely remember it's 
off for good reasons, ie, high memory support in a 'regular' kernel 
can break or degrade other stuff ;>  If you do recompile, I suggest 
you edit the Makefile's  EXTRAVERSION = -?mdk to somethin else, say 
= -big , so you'll have a completely new kernel version and you can 
keep your existing kernel.

   FWIW, as long as you're in there installing new ram, pull out that 
existing 128mb stick, clean the contacts lightly with a pencil eraser 
and re-install it.  Also, re-seat all your other stuff like IDE 
cables, peripheal cards, etc. Clean any dust bunnies out of all the 
heatsinks. Can't hurt, may save you some future problems
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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-10 Thread skinky

On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:44, Tom Brinkman wrote:
|  On Friday 09 November 2001 06:34 pm, skinky wrote:
|  > On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:09, Tom Brinkman wrote:
|
|  Regular' kernels will only address 'bout
|
|  > | 900+ mb of ram. So if you want to use all that ram, you'll need
|  > | to install a -enterprise kernel (it's on your CD's or you can get
|  > | the latest from cooker).
|  >
|  > Firstly, Dennis, Jose and Tom thanks to you all for your replies.
|  > Tom, when you say "'regular' kernels will only address 'bout 900+
|  > mb of ram" does that mean I can install all of the ram but only
|  > 900+ mb will be recognised
|
|  Yes
|
|  >- or is LM8.1 ('regular' kernel) not
|  > likely to work anymore?
|
| The regular kernel will work as always, it just won't see more'n
|  about 900+mb of ram.

Oh heck!  hehe... I've been playing around with my filters in kmail and it 
looks like I'm reading email in the wrong order : )

Well anyway, thats good news Tom, thanks.  I'll put the two new 512mb 
sticks in slots 2 & 3 like you said, and leave the 128mb stick in the 
first slot... then I'll hold my breath while I wait to see if anything 
breaks!

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-10 Thread skinky

On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:31, Dennis Myers wrote:
|  On Friday 09 November 2001 16:11, you wrote:
|
|  > Other relevant bits are:  Soltek SL-KAV75 mobo and Athlon TBird
|  > 1.0GHz CPU.
|
|  If this is the same board as listed on the soltek site as a SL-75KAV
| then as you look at the attached URL you see that your board will take
| up to 1.5G. I see three slots so that means you can put all of the
| sticks in and have a screamer.  HTH
|  http://www1.soltek.com.tw/English/home/01.htm

Yes its the same board and the manual says it can take 1.5gb, but going by 
what Tom says, I'm not sure if putting in more ram than linux can handle 
is such a good idea  : (.  I don't want to break anything.  I'll try the 
128mb stick and one of the 512mb sticks.  Like I said earlier, I should 
have done my homework before rushing and buying stuff so I've got no-one 
to blame but myself ; )

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-09 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Friday 09 November 2001 10:17 pm, Randy Kramer wrote:
> Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
> > Some machines cannot handle more than 512mb of memory, or run out
> > of cache for more than 512 megs of RAM.
>
> Some motherboards handle less than that -- the TX-Pro II
> motherboards I use can only handle 64 MB in each of two sockets for
> a maximum total of 128 MB (although I can also add some 72 pin
> memory, not sure how much).
>
> Randy Kramer

I was curious 'bout that too. Currently most motherboards can 
handle 256mb modules, 3 or 4 slots. When stinky said he had 512mb 
sticks I went to the Soltek site an looked at his motherboard. 3 
slots, capable of 512mb each for a 1.5 gig total.  Soltek's a great 
board, but I'd stil be a little leary of 512mb modules 
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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-09 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Friday 09 November 2001 06:34 pm, skinky wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:09, Tom Brinkman wrote:
Regular' kernels will only address 'bout
> | 900+ mb of ram. So if you want to use all that ram, you'll need
> | to install a -enterprise kernel (it's on your CD's or you can get
> | the latest from cooker).  

> Firstly, Dennis, Jose and Tom thanks to you all for your replies.
> Tom, when you say "'regular' kernels will only address 'bout 900+
> mb of ram" does that mean I can install all of the ram but only
> 900+ mb will be recognised 

Yes

>- or is LM8.1 ('regular' kernel) not
> likely to work anymore?

   The regular kernel will work as always, it just won't see more'n 
about 900+mb of ram.

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Fwd: Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-09 Thread Dennis Myers

Once again this should have gone listwise.
I can't pay  attention. 

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Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 21:31:51 -0600
From: Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Friday 09 November 2001 16:11, you wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I am about to upgrade the hw in my pc.



> 2 x 512MB PC133 SDRAM (not sure whether to leave the old RAM in also)
> nVidia GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP graphics card
> Soundblaster Live 5.1 sound card
>
> If I boot linux after doing the following, is the new hardware likely to
> be recognised? :



> Other relevant bits are:  Soltek SL-KAV75 mobo and Athlon TBird 1.0GHz CPU.

If this is the same board as listed on the soltek site as a SL-75KAV then as
you look at the attached URL you see that your board will take up to 1.5G. I
see three slots so that means you can put all of the sticks in and have a
screamer.  HTH
http://www1.soltek.com.tw/English/home/01.htm
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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-09 Thread Randy Kramer

Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
> Some machines cannot handle more than 512mb of memory, or run out of
> cache for more than 512 megs of RAM.

Some motherboards handle less than that -- the TX-Pro II motherboards I
use can only handle 64 MB in each of two sockets for a maximum total of
128 MB (although I can also add some 72 pin memory, not sure how much).

Randy Kramer



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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-09 Thread skinky

On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:09, Tom Brinkman wrote:
|  On Friday 09 November 2001 05:11 pm, skinky wrote:
[snip]
|  > If I boot linux after doing the following, is the new hardware
|  > likely to be recognised? :
|  >
|  > - ensure harddrake and kudzu run on boot,
|  > - shut down the computer
|  > - swap the RAM modules
|  > - install AGP graphics card
|  > - install sound card
|  > - boot into BIOS settings and
|  > - - - disable onboard sound
|  > - - - enable AGP graphics
|  >
|  > Or should I install one thing at a time?  Is there anything tricky
|  > I need to know about installing RAM?  I'm just trying to avoid
|  > reinstalling LM8.1.
|
|
|  You should be able to put 'em all in at once, including the old
|  ram if you want.  Jeezz, if I understand you're gonna have 1.25 gigs
|  of ram!  Which (maybe besides the SB Live!) is gonna be sort of a
|  problem.  'Regular' kernels will only address 'bout 900+ mb of ram.
|  So if you want to use all that ram, you'll need to install a
|  -enterprise kernel (it's on your CD's or you can get the latest from
|  cooker).  You might later find you'd settle for havin less ram
|  recognized so you can use a regular kernel tho.  The -enterprise
|  edition (Big Mem enabled) has issues of it's own from what I've read.
|
|  Mandrake 8.x will see the GeF2 and set it up great... 2d only tho
|  with the Linux open source drivers. You might find it difficult to
|  get the nVidia closed source drivers goin with an -enterprise kernel.
|  I dunno, you'll just haft'a see. Sb Live! could be problems too.
|  There's been a lot of noise about Lives!'s havin/causing problems
|  with various hardware combo's, specially some mobo's, any OS.  For
|  the ram, if you keep the old stick, I'd put it in the first slot, put
|  the new ram in slots 2 & 3.

Firstly, Dennis, Jose and Tom thanks to you all for your replies.

Tom, when you say "'regular' kernels will only address 'bout 900+ mb of 
ram" does that mean I can install all of the ram but only 900+ mb will be 
recognised - or is LM8.1 ('regular' kernel) not likely to work anymore?
 
I'm not keen on using the enterprise kernel so if my system won't work I'd 
rather just leave the 128mb and add (1x) 512mb stick.  And in which case, 
that'll teach me for not doing my homework first won't it?!  I guess I can 
save the other 512mb stick for another pc.

skinky
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RE: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-09 Thread Jose M. Sanchez


Some machines cannot handle more than 512mb of memory, or run out of
cache for more than 512 megs of RAM.

You may want to try with one 512mb strip first, then work up from there.

-JMS

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of skinky
|Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:12 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: [newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM
|
|
|Hi all
|
|I am about to upgrade the hw in my pc.  I currently have:
|
|1 x 128MB PC133 SDRAM
|crappy 1MB S3 PCI graphics card
|AC97 onboard sound
|
|Changing the above with:
|
|2 x 512MB PC133 SDRAM (not sure whether to leave the old RAM 
|in also) nVidia GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP graphics card 
|Soundblaster Live 5.1 sound card
|
|If I boot linux after doing the following, is the new hardware 
|likely to 
|be recognised? :
|
|- ensure harddrake and kudzu run on boot,
|- shut down the computer
|- swap the RAM modules
|- install AGP graphics card
|- install sound card
|- boot into BIOS settings and
|- - - disable onboard sound
|- - - enable AGP graphics
|
|Or should I install one thing at a time?  Is there anything 
|tricky I need 
|to know about installing RAM?  I'm just trying to avoid 
|reinstalling LM8.1.
|
|Other relevant bits are:  Soltek SL-KAV75 mobo and Athlon 
|TBird 1.0GHz CPU.
|
|TIA
|skinky
|-- 
|But what ... is it good for?
|(Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, 
|commenting on the microchip)
|
|




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[newbie] Installing new hardware incl. RAM

2001-11-09 Thread skinky

Hi all

I am about to upgrade the hw in my pc.  I currently have:

1 x 128MB PC133 SDRAM
crappy 1MB S3 PCI graphics card
AC97 onboard sound

Changing the above with:

2 x 512MB PC133 SDRAM (not sure whether to leave the old RAM in also)
nVidia GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP graphics card
Soundblaster Live 5.1 sound card

If I boot linux after doing the following, is the new hardware likely to 
be recognised? :

- ensure harddrake and kudzu run on boot,
- shut down the computer
- swap the RAM modules
- install AGP graphics card
- install sound card
- boot into BIOS settings and
- - - disable onboard sound
- - - enable AGP graphics

Or should I install one thing at a time?  Is there anything tricky I need 
to know about installing RAM?  I'm just trying to avoid reinstalling LM8.1.

Other relevant bits are:  Soltek SL-KAV75 mobo and Athlon TBird 1.0GHz CPU.

TIA
skinky
-- 
But what ... is it good for?
(Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, 
commenting on the microchip)



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