Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Friday 18 March 2005 20:42, Michel Leunen wrote: > It's already a mess and it's worth a try, I think. My second choice is > to upgrade my whole mandrake distribution from 10.0 to 10.2 beta 3. Don't simply "upgrade" from 10.0 to 10.2...that'll be an even finer mess. Better to do a fresh install. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Well you could try a new (kde)install after removing everything that's associated...but that'll be a fine mess, prolly. It's already a mess and it's worth a try, I think. My second choice is to upgrade my whole mandrake distribution from 10.0 to 10.2 beta 3. No prob...too bad this is happening...and prolly quite maddening too, for you. This upgrade stuff is what tore me away from kde to xfce, almost like windows isn't it?:( Yeah, among other things as well :-( Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Thursday 17 March 2005 21:28, Michel Leunen wrote: > H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > apparently your problem isn't solved yet... > > No. I've tried to do another update hoping it will repair kde but with > no luck. I think I'll have to reinstall it, I'm afraid. Well you could try a new (kde)install after removing everything that's associated...but that'll be a fine mess, prolly. I gathered that KDE3.4 was out today and could be installed in the /home directory (or maybe /opt) so as not to interfere with previous versions. Maybe worth a look, eh? > > > so let's take a few tests: > > Ok, let's go! > > > After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror > > from there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle > > button) the error messages and mail 'em to us. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ konqueror > konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: > _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent Frankly, I'm not in the clear what this means other than the obvious "undefined event":( There's a version incompatibility somewhere there, prolly. > > > On top of that start a new session by doing , , > > simultaneously and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at > > the prompt. Then at the same prompt: > > "startx -- :1" without the quotes and watch the space between "--" and > > ":1". > > > > That should open up a second X(kde)session on ,,check > > ,, to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you > > care;) > > > > And go back to the original ,, to see the error messages > > it produces in respect to kde. > > Here is what appears and there is no error message it seems: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ startx -- :1 > > Release Date: 18 December 2003 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 > Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk i686 [ELF] > Current Operating System: Linux LinuxPC 2.6.3-7mdk #1 Wed Mar 17 > 15:56:42 CET 2004 i686 > Build Date: 05 November 2004 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.1.log", Time: Thu Mar 17 21:21:41 2005 > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > > Using vt 8 > > (II) Initializing extension GL > > SetClientVersion: 0 8 Looks OK to me i.e. normal start-up procedure.and I gather KDE is still botching up on F8. > That's all. Nothing more except some newlines. It doesn't tell me much, > quite cryptic for me. > > Thanks for your help. No prob...too bad this is happening...and prolly quite maddening too, for you. This upgrade stuff is what tore me away from kde to xfce, almost like windows isn't it?:( -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: apparently your problem isn't solved yet... No. I've tried to do another update hoping it will repair kde but with no luck. I think I'll have to reinstall it, I'm afraid. so let's take a few tests: Ok, let's go! After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror from there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle button) the error messages and mail 'em to us. [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent On top of that start a new session by doing , , simultaneously and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at the prompt. Then at the same prompt: "startx -- :1" without the quotes and watch the space between "--" and ":1". That should open up a second X(kde)session on ,,check ,, to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you care;) And go back to the original ,, to see the error messages it produces in respect to kde. Here is what appears and there is no error message it seems: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ startx -- :1 Release Date: 18 December 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux LinuxPC 2.6.3-7mdk #1 Wed Mar 17 15:56:42 CET 2004 i686 Build Date: 05 November 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.1.log", Time: Thu Mar 17 21:21:41 2005 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" Using vt 8 (II) Initializing extension GL SetClientVersion: 0 8 That's all. Nothing more except some newlines. It doesn't tell me much, quite cryptic for me. Thanks for your help. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 20:48, Michel Leunen wrote: > H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's > > running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib > > upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). > > I'm not 100% sure that my problem is a consequence of an upgrade but I > think i'll follow your advice in the future. > Thanks, > > Michel apparently your problem isn't solved yet...so let's take a few tests: After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror from there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle button) the error messages and mail 'em to us. On top of that start a new session by doing , , simultaneously and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at the prompt. Then at the same prompt: "startx -- :1" without the quotes and watch the space between "--" and ":1". That should open up a second X(kde)session on ,,check ,, to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you care;) And go back to the original ,, to see the error messages it produces in respect to kde. If you want to see how it should work ergo a working Xsession kill the running/frozen session with ,, and enter "startxfce4 -- :1" at the prompt. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote: However, while the installation was OK (not a single error), when I started the system up, when loading the Mandrake GUI selector (I actually don't know its name, hope I made myself clear: that is, where you should enter the username and password) the system didn't react. It wasn't frozen because when I entered Ctl+Alt+Backspace, the X system stopped alright. Yes, this is exactly the same bahavior as the one I have with may computer. In the first place, I though it had something to do with my hardware. However, when I started up the system WITHOUT authomatic X window startup (that is, only the terminal), and when I write (after the login) # startx the X Window (with KDE) started without problems. This doesn't work for me, though. I mean kde doesn't start but no problem with gnome or xfce. Hence, I suspected that the problem was indeed the GUI Selector. Then, in the configuration panel, I changed the default manager from Mandrake's own to KDE's or GNOME and now everything works fine. I have tried it too but to no avail. Thanks for your help. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). I'm not 100% sure that my problem is a consequence of an upgrade but I think i'll follow your advice in the future. Thanks, Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 11:44, Anne Wilson wrote: > I haven't moved win4lin to this box yet anyway, so that's not a problem. > I seem to spend 6 months ironing out problems on a new install, > only to have to do it all over again because I need maybe just one thing > that the existing install can't give me. My personal trick on win4lin: Install their kernel (when it's available), on the new install and copy (I keep them backed up on the HD as well on CD) /var/win4lin and /opt/win4lin to resp. /var and /opt. If you kept your /home/ann/win directory in order it'll run as beforeno serial number hassle et all. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 22:52, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's > running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib > upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). > I haven't considered it until this last week or two, because it wasn't worth risking problems just for eye-candy. It's only the real problems I'm having with kmail imap that have made me consider it. The developers have always said that imap support was experimental in 1.7.1/3.2.3, so I'm not complaining, but since there are fixes for many of the problems in the next version it's time to consider moving on. > There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted > out most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. > > And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 > quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't > see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. > As a pop client everything except gpg-agent was running sweetly. > This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with > mdk10.1, but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. > > It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 > official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install > retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) I haven't moved win4lin to this box yet anyway, so that's not a problem. I seem to spend 6 months ironing out problems on a new install, only to have to do it all over again because I need maybe just one thing that the existing install can't give me. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpxnx3FzxnCF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Hello all. Just a few thoughts. I bought my Mandrake copy directly from France. No downloads, no screwed CDs, everything should have been perfect. However, while the installation was OK (not a single error), when I started the system up, when loading the Mandrake GUI selector (I actually don't know its name, hope I made myself clear: that is, where you should enter the username and password) the system didn't react. It wasn't frozen because when I entered Ctl+Alt+Backspace, the X system stopped alright. In the first place, I though it had something to do with my hardware. However, when I started up the system WITHOUT authomatic X window startup (that is, only the terminal), and when I write (after the login) # startx the X Window (with KDE) started without problems. Hence, I suspected that the problem was indeed the GUI Selector. Then, in the configuration panel, I changed the default manager from Mandrake's own to KDE's or GNOME and now everything works fine. Maybe you can try something like these, although I don't know how to do it from command line. Greetings, Fernando Gómez. == Registered Linux User 381647. Usuario Registrado de Linux 381647 http://counter.li.org - Original Message - From: "H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:17, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > > I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from > > > xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that > > > laptop..and I'm not complaining;) > > > > > > Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love > > > xfce4;) > > > > > > I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a > > > winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I > > > don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) > > > > I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on > > the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and > > kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I > > get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so > > many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This > > is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. > > > > Anne > > Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's > running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib > upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). > > There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out > most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. > > And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 > quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't > see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. > > This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, > but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. > > It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 > official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install > retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) > -- > Good luck, > HarM > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:17, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from > > xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that > > laptop..and I'm not complaining;) > > > > Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love > > xfce4;) > > > > I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a > > winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I > > don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) > > I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on > the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and > kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I > get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so > many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This > is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. > > Anne Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Have you tried to launch kde from the command line ? If not, try : startx kde -- :1 as root, in a text shell and you will know if the problem is in your configuration or kde itself. On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:20:29 +0100, Michel Leunen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > > Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a > > command > > line. Try booting "linux-nonfb" if you can't, then try XFDrake. If > > everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. > > Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). > Nothing that I can launch. > > Michel > -- > Michel Leunen > http://www.leunen.com/ > mailto: see my homepage > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from > xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that > laptop..and I'm not complaining;) > > Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love > xfce4;) > > I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a > winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I > don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgplh44W0zD5N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:19, Michel Leunen wrote: > H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? > > Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading > > yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my > last upgrade. > In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the > solution? Retry an update? > > Michel I don't know.I like xfce4 but it sucks when apps like konq don't start when asked..agreed. I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:12, Michel Leunen wrote: > H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline > > ergo when you say that about "/usr/share/bla/bla", are you trying to find > > "clickable" executables like in windows? > > I'm a new Linux user but not completely dumb, I hope :-) You don't give the impression, nor does your site...on the contrary. It's just that some very proficiant windows-users sometimes get terribly lost in their first steps. especially when it comes to the CoMmandLine (CML) which we take almost for granted after a while:) > > > Executables are found in "bin/" and "sbin/" directories in linux but very > > few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command! > > I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just > said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ > and it's a directory. The unsaid question was then: Anne, what do you > mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it? It's XFdrake (mind the capitals) .enter XFd on the commandline (as su/root) and hit for autocompletion. The is your best friend (better 'n google) on the CML. XFdrake is a wizard for configuring X and the desktop BTW.You don't need it here. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: Michael, capitalisation is very important. Try it again with slocate XFdrake Oops, sorry. Hey H.J.Bathoorn, maybe I'm really dumb after all :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Sorry, Anne and thanks for your help. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: I don't know if you are aware of this, but when you update a package, if it is running it does not appear to be affected. It is not until you re-start it that the new package kicks in. Yeah, I learned that the hard way :-) In the case of kde it would be logging in afresh that would do that. Does that explain it? It makes sense, especially since I mainly use xfce and I don't remember if I logged in kde since the last update. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:49, Michel Leunen wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake > > /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png > > /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png > > /usr/sbin/XFdrake > > Thanks Anne, that's definitely not the same as what i got: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ slocate xfdrake > /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake > /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake/xfdrake-test-card.png > > No executable in my system. Michael, capitalisation is very important. Try it again with slocate XFdrake If you still don't find it, you may not have all the wizards installed. There's an rpm caller drakwiz (or is it wiz-drak?) that installs quite a few of them. Run Software Installer and search for 'drak' - you should recognise the one I mean. And btw, to run XFdrake you need to be in a root console. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpw9vqvTswbN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Thanks Anne, that's definitely not the same as what i got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ slocate xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake/xfdrake-test-card.png No executable in my system. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:19, Michel Leunen wrote: > H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? > > Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading > > yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my > last upgrade. > In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the > solution? Retry an update? > I don't know if you are aware of this, but when you update a package, if it is running it does not appear to be affected. It is not until you re-start it that the new package kicks in. In the case of kde it would be logging in afresh that would do that. Does that explain it? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpuXTudMsZ98.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:12, Michel Leunen wrote: > > I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just > said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ > and it's a directory. Sorry - I made a mistake on the capitalisation. [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake So there it is. It looks as though you have established that it is a kde problem, not a display one, as I thought from your first message, so it probably won't help here, but for future reference, it is one of Mandrake's 'wizards' and it deals with display settings. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpXf7jWl28Uq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:12 pm, Michel Leunen wrote:
> mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it?
i do not know ~ but, taking a wild guess
. . . maybe, Mandrake's tool for setting up X-windows { XFree86 or
X-Org } [ my Linux presently is SuSE ] ?
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my last upgrade. In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the solution? Retry an update? Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo
when you say that about "/usr/share/bla/bla", are you trying to find
"clickable" executables like in windows?
I'm a new Linux user but not completely dumb, I hope :-)
Executables are found in "bin/" and "sbin/" directories in linux but very few
will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command!
I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just
said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/
and it's a directory. The unsaid question was then: Anne, what do you
mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it?
Did you try adding a new user ("userdrake" on the commandline) or deleting the
kde config (.rc files) files Kaj and I suggested?
Yes, but to no avail.
Like your site BTWvery clean and slick:)
Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:26, Michel Leunen wrote: > $ konqueror > konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: > _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent > > Have no idea what it means. Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:20, Michel Leunen wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a
> > command line. Try booting "linux-nonfb" if you can't, then try XFDrake.
> > If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility.
>
> Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake).
> Nothing that I can launch.
>
> Michel
Michel,
Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo
when you say that about "/usr/share/bla/bla", are you trying to find
"clickable" executables like in windows?
Executables are found in "bin/" and "sbin/" directories in linux but very few
will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command!
Did you try adding a new user ("userdrake" on the commandline) or deleting the
kde config (.rc files) files Kaj and I suggested?
Like your site BTWvery clean and slick:)
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: It does seem rather difficult to do anything about kde if you can't even get in. He should be able to try renaming .kde, but that would only work if the problem was after logging in, and as I understand it he can't even get so far. But - if he can't, how did he get XFCE working, I wonder? I have tried deleteing the ~/.kde to no avail. It doesn't seems to be a settings problem but rather a library problem. Some library corrupted or missing. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde that's for sure. You're right, everything else seems to work just fine. I can log in Gnome desktop, XFCE4 without any problem. Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check what kind of error messages come drifting by I can launch some of the KDE config program like userdrake but konqueror, for instance, returns with an error message and never shows up. The error message is: $ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent Have no idea what it means. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting "linux-nonfb" if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). Nothing that I can launch. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 05:41, Erylon Hines wrote: > On Monday 14 March 2005 11:01 am, Michel Leunen wrote: > | Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. > | Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log > | in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop > | and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with > | another window manager. > | How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall > | once again. > | > | Michel > > Can you log into kde as a different user? Maybe create one and see. If > so, rename your /home/~/.kde to .OLDkde. Logout and then back into KDE. > That will probably fix it. Beware, you may want to backup your Mail > directory and your kaddressbook, because you may lose them in the process. > Your desktop settings will also return to the default. The bright side is, > it is a relatively quick fix. > Renaming is always a good option. You can copy your addressbook over to the new directory. If you use kmail it isn't stored under .kde but under .Mail, so you don't lose that either. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpI2L87rbmm4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 11:01 am, Michel Leunen wrote: | Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. | Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log | in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop | and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with | another window manager. | How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall | once again. | | Michel Can you log into kde as a different user? Maybe create one and see. If so, rename your /home/~/.kde to .OLDkde. Logout and then back into KDE. That will probably fix it. Beware, you may want to backup your Mail directory and your kaddressbook, because you may lose them in the process. Your desktop settings will also return to the default. The bright side is, it is a relatively quick fix. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 21:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde > that's for sure. I hadn't realised about XFCE when I sent it, but you're right, of course. > Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check > what kind of error messages come drifting by.but I'd recomend that for > a later stage. Prolly some kind of setting that got messed up when logging > out in a previous session. It does seem rather difficult to do anything about kde if you can't even get in. He should be able to try renaming .kde, but that would only work if the problem was after logging in, and as I understand it he can't even get so far. But - if he can't, how did he get XFCE working, I wonder? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpxzHKsdm60Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 22:11, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 14 Mar 2005 20:39, Michel Leunen wrote: > > eric jackson wrote: > > > You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the > > > command line, did you try startx? > > > > No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login > > tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually, > > the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the > > splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar > > message in /var/log/... either. > > Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a > command line. Try booting "linux-nonfb" if you can't, then try XFDrake. > If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. > > Anne X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde that's for sure. Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check what kind of error messages come drifting by.but I'd recomend that for a later stage. Prolly some kind of setting that got messed up when logging out in a previous session. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 20:39, Michel Leunen wrote: > eric jackson wrote: > > You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the > > command line, did you try startx? > > No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login > tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually, > the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the > splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar > message in /var/log/... either. > Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting "linux-nonfb" if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgp9kNF5Tv3Wm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
eric jackson wrote: You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the command line, did you try startx? No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually, the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar message in /var/log/... either. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:18:24 +0100, Michel Leunen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SOTL wrote: Please supply info on usual components. Equipment make video card et. Linux Distribution and version et. Mandrake 10.0 updated regularly. I don't think the card installed matter. You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the command line, did you try startx? I lost KDE once and I think that's what I did to get it back although I admit, I'm not sure. Eric -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
SOTL wrote: Please supply info on usual components. Equipment make video card et. Linux Distribution and version et. Mandrake 10.0 updated regularly. I don't think the card installed matter. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 20:01, Michel Leunen wrote: > Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. > Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log > in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop > and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with > another window manager. > How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall > once again. > > Michel The first thing I'd do is create another user and log into KDE as that new user. If the problems don't show up it's a faulty setting in your "/home/michel/.kde/" directory.just delete it and check in as you used to. You will lose existing kde settings like those of kmail as well as bookmarks in konqueror etc etc. So if that is a major problem, say so and we'll fine tune what has to be changed/deleted. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 14:01, Michel Leunen wrote: > Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. > Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log > in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop > and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with > another window manager. > How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall > once again. > > Michel Please supply info on usual components. Equipment make video card et. Linux Distribution and version et. Did you download KDE and install or did you install from distribution? Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with another window manager. How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall once again. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Need a GMail invitation? Send me an email. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop sharing through a router
julian wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 10:02 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: I want to use the KDE Desktop sharing application, but have a Linksys router installed. So the IP address that the desktop sharing gives me is my internal IP. What do I need to do to authorize desktop sharing on the machine. I suppose I first need to find the IP assigned by my IP (in the Linksys router setup?). How then do I authorize a connection through the router to my machine? Thanks, You will need to open a port on your router. The details on this depend on the router. Typically you tell it what port you want to open, and the lan IP of the computer to which traffic on that port should go. You can set the port here: control center->internet&network->destop sharing->network tab It looks like it uses port 5900 by default, so try opening that first. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I'll try this...thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop sharing through a router
On Saturday 15 November 2003 10:02 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: > I want to use the KDE Desktop sharing application, but have a Linksys > router installed. So the IP address that the desktop sharing gives me > is my internal IP. What do I need to do to authorize desktop sharing on > the machine. I suppose I first need to find the IP assigned by my IP > (in the Linksys router setup?). > > How then do I authorize a connection through the router to my machine? > > Thanks, You will need to open a port on your router. The details on this depend on the router. Typically you tell it what port you want to open, and the lan IP of the computer to which traffic on that port should go. You can set the port here: control center->internet&network->destop sharing->network tab It looks like it uses port 5900 by default, so try opening that first. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KDE Desktop sharing through a router
I want to use the KDE Desktop sharing application, but have a Linksys router installed. So the IP address that the desktop sharing gives me is my internal IP. What do I need to do to authorize desktop sharing on the machine. I suppose I first need to find the IP assigned by my IP (in the Linksys router setup?). How then do I authorize a connection through the router to my machine? Thanks, -- Trey pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop cruft
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 10:57 pm, Russ Kepler wrote: > I've got a couple of icons on my desktop that I can't get rid of (and don't > appear in the Desktop directory). I suspect that they're artifacts from an > automount or something, but I can't remove the /mnt entries, either. The > icons appear as "CD-ROM mounted at /mnt/cdrom2" and "CD-ROM mounted at > /mnt/cdrom2" and appear as a cd-rom image with a small green triangle in > the lower right corner. The entries in /mnt have odd permissions: > > drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jul 29 19:13 cdrom2/ > drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jul 29 19:13 cdrom3/ > > These entries are not removable. either. > > I'd really prefer to have the second cd-rom drive use manual mounting as > the first and to clean up my desktop by removing these. Suggestions? KDE Control Centre>LookNFeel>Behaviour check/uncheck however you want your desktop. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KDE desktop cruft
I've got a couple of icons on my desktop that I can't get rid of (and don't appear in the Desktop directory). I suspect that they're artifacts from an automount or something, but I can't remove the /mnt entries, either. The icons appear as "CD-ROM mounted at /mnt/cdrom2" and "CD-ROM mounted at /mnt/cdrom2" and appear as a cd-rom image with a small green triangle in the lower right corner. The entries in /mnt have odd permissions: drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jul 29 19:13 cdrom2/ drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jul 29 19:13 cdrom3/ These entries are not removable. either. I'd really prefer to have the second cd-rom drive use manual mounting as the first and to clean up my desktop by removing these. Suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop Modifications
Oh (he said sheepishly) and will they all have their own login? and can not all be a member of group samedesk? On Sunday 09 September 2001 17:08, you had thoughts to the concept of: > Normally I would agree with you, but in this case, there will be upwards of > 18,000+ users. That's the membership of the place I work (normal real job). > That's the reason I need to lock the desktop down. That way, it'll be > consistent (although somewhat limited ) for all users. > > Lanman > > On Sunday 09 September 2001 10:00 am, you wrote: > > I would wonder if it might be easier to allow each user to have their own > > desktop the way they want, and remove or add them to groups that have > > device permissions? > > > > On Sunday 09 September 2001 09:20, Lanman wrote: > > > I'm hoping that someone on the list can help me out with 2 small > > > problems. I'm in the process of trying to "Lock Down" KDE on Mandrake > > > 8.0 . In other words, I'm trying to remove some functionality. If > > > successful, users will only have the ability to click on designated > > > icons on the desktop. So far, I've been able to get rid of the panel > > > (taskbar), I've made the desktop "read-only", gotten rid of the > > > "right-click" option on the desktop, and changed permissions on the > > > remainig icons to read and execute only. > > > > > > My last few problems are as follows; > > > > > > 1) After removing the panel and right-click menu, I no longer have a > > > simple way to "Log-Off" the users, short of using the > > > CTRL-ALT-Backspace keystroke. I assume that since log-offs can be done > > > by clicking a button on the panel, that there is a command that will > > > work, but I have no idea what it is. The "logout" command - when run > > > from a console will not work, and it suggests that I use "exit", which > > > only closes the console. What I need is a command that will start the > > > log-off process by using an icon. > > > > > > 2) I need to eliminate the "right-click" option when the mouse-pointer > > > is positioned over an icon. > > > > > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! > > > > > > Lanman > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Content-Description: > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Content-Description: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop Modifications
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 09:20:19 -0400, Lanman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm hoping that someone on the list can help me out with 2 small problems. > I'm in the process of trying to "Lock Down" KDE on Mandrake 8.0 . In other > words, I'm trying to remove some functionality. If successful, users will > only have the ability to click on designated icons on the desktop. So far, > I've been able to get rid of the panel (taskbar), I've made the desktop > "read-only", gotten rid of the "right-click" option on the desktop, and > changed permissions on the remainig icons to read and execute only. > > My last few problems are as follows; > > 1) After removing the panel and right-click menu, I no longer have a simple > way to "Log-Off" the users, short of using the CTRL-ALT-Backspace keystroke. > I assume that since log-offs can be done by clicking a button on the panel, > that there is a command that will work, but I have no idea what it is. The > "logout" command - when run from a console will not work, and it suggests > that I use "exit", which only closes the console. What I need is a command > that will start the log-off process by using an icon. > > 2) I need to eliminate the "right-click" option when the mouse-pointer is > positioned over an icon. > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! > > Lanman Both GNOME and KDE have 'kiosk' modes, so-called because they are designed to be used by anybody in an information kiosk. I don't know the specifics, but you may want to do a search of "KDE kiosk" or "GNOME kiosk" at a site like Google (http://www.google.com/linux). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KDE Desktop Modifications
I'm hoping that someone on the list can help me out with 2 small problems. I'm in the process of trying to "Lock Down" KDE on Mandrake 8.0 . In other words, I'm trying to remove some functionality. If successful, users will only have the ability to click on designated icons on the desktop. So far, I've been able to get rid of the panel (taskbar), I've made the desktop "read-only", gotten rid of the "right-click" option on the desktop, and changed permissions on the remainig icons to read and execute only. My last few problems are as follows; 1) After removing the panel and right-click menu, I no longer have a simple way to "Log-Off" the users, short of using the CTRL-ALT-Backspace keystroke. I assume that since log-offs can be done by clicking a button on the panel, that there is a command that will work, but I have no idea what it is. The "logout" command - when run from a console will not work, and it suggests that I use "exit", which only closes the console. What I need is a command that will start the log-off process by using an icon. 2) I need to eliminate the "right-click" option when the mouse-pointer is positioned over an icon. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop icons not displayed
I erased all that are listed in the small quoted printable text file attached. On Sunday 18 February 2001 10:10 am, Romanator wrote: > Vic wrote: > > No but now I deleted a couple of stale files and > > did a runlevel switch from 5 to 1 back to 5 again and > > now they work. > > > > weird > > > > On Saturday 17 February 2001 08:46 pm, Romanator wrote: > > > Vic wrote: > > > > I installed the ximian gnome. > > > > > > > > KDE icon files and other files are still in the dir > > > > /home/user/Desktop so I know they were not erased, how can I get them > > > > displayed again. > > > > > > > > I have no clue what to do. > > > > > > Did you reboot? > > What were the name of the files? intrash.txt
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop icons not displayed
No but now I deleted a couple of stale files and did a runlevel switch from 5 to 1 back to 5 again and now they work. weird On Saturday 17 February 2001 08:46 pm, Romanator wrote: > Vic wrote: > > I installed the ximian gnome. > > > > KDE icon files and other files are still in the dir /home/user/Desktop > > so I know they were not erased, how can I get them displayed again. > > > > I have no clue what to do. > > Did you reboot?
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop icons not displayed
Vic wrote: > > I installed the ximian gnome. > > KDE icon files and other files are still in the dir /home/user/Desktop > so I know they were not erased, how can I get them displayed again. > > I have no clue what to do. Did you reboot? -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Little Tux Email
[newbie] Kde desktop icons not displayed
I installed the ximian gnome. KDE icon files and other files are still in the dir /home/user/Desktop so I know they were not erased, how can I get them displayed again. I have no clue what to do.
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
Sorry. I don't have an ICQ number. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 High Energy Penguin Powered Email KompuKit wrote: > > Roman...whats your ICQ# ? > > Romanator wrote: > > > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > > > never mind...fixed it...in: Ksysguard > > > > > > Romanator wrote: > > > > > > > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > > > > > > > yes...I have a dir called: /home/kit > > > > > > > > > > and the file is not there > > > > > > > > > > but not a dir called: /usr/home/kit > > > > > > > > > > Romanator wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have a /usr/home/kit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't make that partition > > > > > > > > > > > > You must have a /home directory folder for user. Every one has one. It's > > > > > > not a partition but a directory folder. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Roman > > > > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > > > > High Energy Penguin Powered Email > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Registered Linux User: 167369 > > > > > <= http://www.kompukit.com => > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 > > > > > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > > > > > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > > > > > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) > > > > > > > > Log out and login to enlightenment. Then log out of enlightenment. > > > > Reboot your computer. > > > > Does it automatically start in enlightenment? If it does, check > > > > /usr/home/kit > > > > Open the hidden file .Xclients > > > > Follow the steps from the previous emails. > > > > After saying that, did you check the /etc/sysconfig/autologin file? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Roman > > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > > High Energy Penguin Powered Email > > > > > > -- > > > Registered Linux User: 167369 > > > <= http://www.kompukit.com => > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 > > > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > > > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > > > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) > > > > That's good to hear. Ksysguard eh... > > > > -- > > Roman > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > High Energy Penguin Powered Email > > -- > Registered Linux User: 167369 > <= http://www.kompukit.com => > [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am)
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
Roman...whats your ICQ# ? Romanator wrote: > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > never mind...fixed it...in: Ksysguard > > > > Romanator wrote: > > > > > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > > > > > yes...I have a dir called: /home/kit > > > > > > > > and the file is not there > > > > > > > > but not a dir called: /usr/home/kit > > > > > > > > Romanator wrote: > > > > > > > > > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have a /usr/home/kit > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't make that partition > > > > > > > > > > You must have a /home directory folder for user. Every one has one. It's > > > > > not a partition but a directory folder. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Roman > > > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > > > High Energy Penguin Powered Email > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Registered Linux User: 167369 > > > > <= http://www.kompukit.com => > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 > > > > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > > > > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > > > > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) > > > > > > Log out and login to enlightenment. Then log out of enlightenment. > > > Reboot your computer. > > > Does it automatically start in enlightenment? If it does, check > > > /usr/home/kit > > > Open the hidden file .Xclients > > > Follow the steps from the previous emails. > > > After saying that, did you check the /etc/sysconfig/autologin file? > > > > > > -- > > > Roman > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > High Energy Penguin Powered Email > > > > -- > > Registered Linux User: 167369 > > <= http://www.kompukit.com => > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 > > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) > > That's good to hear. Ksysguard eh... > > -- > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > High Energy Penguin Powered Email -- Registered Linux User: 167369 <= http://www.kompukit.com => [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am)
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
KompuKit wrote: > > never mind...fixed it...in: Ksysguard > > Romanator wrote: > > > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > > > yes...I have a dir called: /home/kit > > > > > > and the file is not there > > > > > > but not a dir called: /usr/home/kit > > > > > > Romanator wrote: > > > > > > > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't have a /usr/home/kit > > > > > > > > > > I didn't make that partition > > > > > > > > You must have a /home directory folder for user. Every one has one. It's > > > > not a partition but a directory folder. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Roman > > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > > High Energy Penguin Powered Email > > > > > > -- > > > Registered Linux User: 167369 > > > <= http://www.kompukit.com => > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 > > > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > > > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > > > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) > > > > Log out and login to enlightenment. Then log out of enlightenment. > > Reboot your computer. > > Does it automatically start in enlightenment? If it does, check > > /usr/home/kit > > Open the hidden file .Xclients > > Follow the steps from the previous emails. > > After saying that, did you check the /etc/sysconfig/autologin file? > > > > -- > > Roman > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > High Energy Penguin Powered Email > > -- > Registered Linux User: 167369 > <= http://www.kompukit.com => > [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) That's good to hear. Ksysguard eh... -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 High Energy Penguin Powered Email
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
KompuKit wrote: > > yes...I have a dir called: /home/kit > > and the file is not there > > but not a dir called: /usr/home/kit > > Romanator wrote: > > > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > > > I don't have a /usr/home/kit > > > > > > I didn't make that partition > > > > You must have a /home directory folder for user. Every one has one. It's > > not a partition but a directory folder. > > > > -- > > Roman > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > High Energy Penguin Powered Email > > -- > Registered Linux User: 167369 > <= http://www.kompukit.com => > [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) Log out and login to enlightenment. Then log out of enlightenment. Reboot your computer. Does it automatically start in enlightenment? If it does, check /usr/home/kit Open the hidden file .Xclients Follow the steps from the previous emails. After saying that, did you check the /etc/sysconfig/autologin file? -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 High Energy Penguin Powered Email
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
On Tuesday 06 February 2001 05:53, you wrote: > yes...I have a dir called: /home/kit > > and the file is not there > > but not a dir called: /usr/home/kit > if you had the file it would be in ~/ (a more generic method of specifying a home directory) Since you do not have the .Xclients file, there must be something else wrong. Try starting kde then closing the offending gnome panel. then close kde normally and make sure to save your setup. Next restart kde and see if the problem still exists. Other places to check would be .xsession .xinitrc .Xclients-default and .xsession -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
yes...I have a dir called: /home/kit and the file is not there but not a dir called: /usr/home/kit Romanator wrote: > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > I don't have a /usr/home/kit > > > > I didn't make that partition > > You must have a /home directory folder for user. Every one has one. It's > not a partition but a directory folder. > > -- > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > High Energy Penguin Powered Email -- Registered Linux User: 167369 <= http://www.kompukit.com => [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am)
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
KompuKit wrote: > > I don't have a /usr/home/kit > > I didn't make that partition You must have a /home directory folder for user. Every one has one. It's not a partition but a directory folder. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 High Energy Penguin Powered Email
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
I don't have a /usr/home/kit I didn't make that partition Romanator wrote: > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > For some reason...I don't see this hidden file.. > > (yes i have SHOW HIDDEN selected) > > > > where is it...? in my user dir? > > > > /home/kit ? > > > > or in the root dir ? > > > > The .Xclients file will be in /usr/home/kit > > -- > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > High Energy Penguin Powered Email -- Registered Linux User: 167369 <= http://www.kompukit.com => [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am)
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
KompuKit wrote: > > For some reason...I don't see this hidden file.. > (yes i have SHOW HIDDEN selected) > > where is it...? in my user dir? > > /home/kit ? > > or in the root dir ? > The .Xclients file will be in /usr/home/kit -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 High Energy Penguin Powered Email
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
For some reason...I don't see this hidden file.. (yes i have SHOW HIDDEN selected) where is it...? in my user dir? /home/kit ? or in the root dir ? Romanator wrote: > > KompuKit wrote: > > > > I accidently clicked on a gnome app...while in KDE... > > now ...everytime I reboot...or restart..KDE comes up... > > but also the gnome file manager...and desktop icons > > come up...then I must CLOSE them (by Xing them out) > > How can I stop this...? > Check the hidden file .Xclients. Ensure that the last line in the file > appears as shown below: > exec /usr/bin/kde > > Also check: > > /etc/sysconfig/autologinMine looks like this: > > AUTOLOGIN=yes > EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/startx > USER=ROMAN > > -- > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > High Energy Penguin Powered Email -- Registered Linux User: 167369 <= http://www.kompukit.com => [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am)
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
KompuKit wrote: > > I accidently clicked on a gnome app...while in KDE... > now ...everytime I reboot...or restart..KDE comes up... > but also the gnome file manager...and desktop icons > come up...then I must CLOSE them (by Xing them out) > How can I stop this...? > -- > Registered Linux User: > <= http://www.kompukit.com => > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7110071 > Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org > WebDesigner:http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns > (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am) Check the hidden file .Xclients. Ensure that the last line in the file appears as shown below: exec /usr/bin/kde Also check: /etc/sysconfig/autologinMine looks like this: AUTOLOGIN=yes EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/startx USER=ROMAN -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 High Energy Penguin Powered Email
[newbie] KDE desktop
I accidently clicked on a gnome app...while in KDE... now ...everytime I reboot...or restart..KDE comes up... but also the gnome file manager...and desktop icons come up...then I must CLOSE them (by Xing them out) How can I stop this...? -- Registered Linux User: <= http://www.kompukit.com => [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7110071 Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org WebDesigner:http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am)
Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop problems Solved
Dennis Myers wrote: > > Just wanted to let the list know that I finally have the full kde > desktop. I decided that there must be something wrong with my home > burned disks and went online and downloaded the kdebase, kdeadmin, > kdesupport and a bunch of other libc files that weren't wanting to load > properly from rpmdrake. Voila! a desktop with icons and the big K. Now I > am impressed and will quite badmouthing the 7.2 release. It looks pretty > good so far. Time will tell, but it looks like I will be off to buy the > boxed set. > > Dennis M. registered linux user #180842 hasta la vista i cant wait for 7.3 already :)
[newbie] KDE Desktop problems Solved
Just wanted to let the list know that I finally have the full kde desktop. I decided that there must be something wrong with my home burned disks and went online and downloaded the kdebase, kdeadmin, kdesupport and a bunch of other libc files that weren't wanting to load properly from rpmdrake. Voila! a desktop with icons and the big K. Now I am impressed and will quite badmouthing the 7.2 release. It looks pretty good so far. Time will tell, but it looks like I will be off to buy the boxed set. Dennis M. registered linux user #180842
RE: [newbie] KDE Desktop
How right you are, Ron! I always forget this usefull utility (pidof). Anybody knows why it is located under /sbin? I usually don't include /sbin in my $PATH. Flupke On Fri, 12 May 2000, Ron Greer wrote: > Eesh that sounds like WAAY to much command line :) > try: > kill -9 `pidof kwm` > -=Ron=- > > > -Original Message- > From: flupke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 6:13 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop > > > from your telnet session, you could try to kill KDE : > ps aux |grep -i kde |grep -v grep > kill -9 [PID] > PID is the PID of KDE (the number in the 2nd column after the "ps" > command) > > If it doesn't work, try to kill your X session > > HTH > Flupke > > On Thu, 11 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > My KDE desktop is not responding to the mouse-clicks. I am not able to > open > > Netscape, console etc. I can access the system through telnet and does not > > want to reboot. Any suggestions ? > > > > Thanks > > > > - anil > > > > > > > > > >
RE: [newbie] KDE Desktop
Eesh that sounds like WAAY to much command line :) try: kill -9 `pidof kwm` -=Ron=- -Original Message- From: flupke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 6:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop from your telnet session, you could try to kill KDE : ps aux |grep -i kde |grep -v grep kill -9 [PID] PID is the PID of KDE (the number in the 2nd column after the "ps" command) If it doesn't work, try to kill your X session HTH Flupke On Thu, 11 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All, > > My KDE desktop is not responding to the mouse-clicks. I am not able to open > Netscape, console etc. I can access the system through telnet and does not > want to reboot. Any suggestions ? > > Thanks > > - anil > > > >
Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop
from your telnet session, you could try to kill KDE : ps aux |grep -i kde |grep -v grep kill -9 [PID] PID is the PID of KDE (the number in the 2nd column after the "ps" command) If it doesn't work, try to kill your X session HTH Flupke On Thu, 11 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All, > > My KDE desktop is not responding to the mouse-clicks. I am not able to open > Netscape, console etc. I can access the system through telnet and does not > want to reboot. Any suggestions ? > > Thanks > > - anil > > > >
[newbie] KDE Desktop
Hi All, My KDE desktop is not responding to the mouse-clicks. I am not able to open Netscape, console etc. I can access the system through telnet and does not want to reboot. Any suggestions ? Thanks - anil
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop icon permissions
On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Pierre Lucas wrote: > On Mon, 06 Dec 1999, you wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Pierre Lucas wrote: > > > I have an ATI Mach 64 (CT) card running at 1024X768 in 16 bpp. The resolution > > > is fine, like it has always been in OS/2 including xfree86OS/2., but when I > > > scroll vertically or move a window on the display, I see thin white lines > > > flicker across the screen. I uncommented the memory line in the config file and > > > changed the refresh rates to match the monitor specs to no avail. > > > Is this something that can be fixed with XConfigurator? > > No problems here on the AIW :( > Sorry, I don't understand the AIW but the :( doesn't look good. ATI - All In a Wonder, same chipset.. > > > > > If there's no other way than to try out different modelines, I guess I > > > eventually will but would prefer a simpler solution. I must add that the > > > scrolling also produces interference in the sound, in Netscape and locally also. > > > The CDs play fine though as the player is connected directly to the soundcard. > > > > Sounds like a k6 to me. > > Do you mean an AMD K6 cpu? It's actually an IBM/Cyrix 6x86 PR166+. Is anything > wrong with AMD or IBM/Cyrix cpus? They have (bigger) io problems with sound. People say everything from "Works here(tm)", "OSS, fixed my problem", and of course some say "Alsa". So i assume it's more of a User+Pc thing, mp3's and non acclerated graphics just pretty much don't mix.. [..] > > Unplug the phone cord from the modem and see if that makes a difference. > > I tried with the computer off. If I unplug the phone cord from the modem and You need it isolated from the pc, powering off isn't enough. > it works, what should I then do? Can I do this unplugging business while the Complain to the Teleco and modem manufacturer (tell them both the other said it was their problem, or they'll bounce you around). What would be happening in that case is the modem is shorting the signal, or bleeding power, which means the modems fryed or your teleco company sucks and they can send somebody to retune the lines so the signal is as it should be. > computer is running? Just to be sure, you do mean the actual phone cord, not yes, you don't need to loose uptime just to disconnect the modem, any transfers will stop of course. > the cord that is plugged in the wall outlet? The "Telephone Cord", from either the back of the pc or the wall which ever is easiest to get at. > I've read so much during the last six weeks trying to find answers to these > little problems, and others that I managed to settle on my own, and I read > somewhere that the modem could be picking up the signal, letting it through to > the phone but not giving back any signal, or something. Something like the Lets clarify what kind of TAD (Telephone Answering Device) your trying to get working. From your original post i thought it was the "electronic answering" that most teleco's provide here. Is this what we're talking about? Or are we talking run of the mill off the shelf answering machine? Or useing a voice modem to setup the linuxbox as ananswering machine? > modem command set or something. I'll try to find where I read that, but if you > can point me in the right direction it will be appreciated. When a modem is set to answer data calls and pass voice calls onto a phone, they do funny things to determine if it's data or voice. I don't recommend it as a stable setting, if at all affordable get one line for voice one for data/fax. > Much thanks in advance. > Pierre Lucas > -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop icon permissions
On Mon, 06 Dec 1999, you wrote: > On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Pierre Lucas wrote: > > > > > > I have an ATI Mach 64 (CT) card running at 1024X768 in 16 bpp. The resolution > > is fine, like it has always been in OS/2 including xfree86OS/2., but when I > > scroll vertically or move a window on the display, I see thin white lines > > flicker across the screen. I uncommented the memory line in the config file and > > changed the refresh rates to match the monitor specs to no avail. > > Is this something that can be fixed with XConfigurator? > > No problems here on the AIW :( Sorry, I don't understand the AIW but the :( doesn't look good. > > > If there's no other way than to try out different modelines, I guess I > > eventually will but would prefer a simpler solution. I must add that the > > scrolling also produces interference in the sound, in Netscape and locally also. > > The CDs play fine though as the player is connected directly to the soundcard. > > Sounds like a k6 to me. Do you mean an AMD K6 cpu? It's actually an IBM/Cyrix 6x86 PR166+. Is anything wrong with AMD or IBM/Cyrix cpus? > > > I have another little problem, related to the modem this time. I connected to > > the net two hours after installing Linux-Mandrake with no problem (six weeks > > ago), upgraded Netscape since and all in all it's been fine most of the time, > > but... > > > > The telephone company should pick up my calls when the phone isn't > > picked up after so many rings or if the line is busy. Since I installed Linux, > > it doesn't work, the phone will ring indefinetely if I don't pick it up (if the > > caller is very patient) and I've been told that the line gives the busy tone > > when it is. I tried to set up the voice-fax application in KDE, but put it > > aside for awhile. I guess it's time I get it going now and think I ought to > > settle the modem thing first. I looked through the archives but can't seem to > > pinpoint this particular modem problem. > > Unplug the phone cord from the modem and see if that makes a difference. I tried with the computer off. If I unplug the phone cord from the modem and it works, what should I then do? Can I do this unplugging business while the computer is running? Just to be sure, you do mean the actual phone cord, not the cord that is plugged in the wall outlet? I've read so much during the last six weeks trying to find answers to these little problems, and others that I managed to settle on my own, and I read somewhere that the modem could be picking up the signal, letting it through to the phone but not giving back any signal, or something. Something like the modem command set or something. I'll try to find where I read that, but if you can point me in the right direction it will be appreciated. Much thanks in advance. Pierre Lucas
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop icon permissions
On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Pierre Lucas wrote: > On Fri, 03 Dec 1999, you wrote: > > Pierre Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > Basically, can I install the floppy and the cd-rom on the panel and delete all > > > the icons without risk of causing problems elsewhere? > > > > yes. > > > > --Chmouel > > Thanks for your quick reply Chmouel. > > I noticed you were the packager of some recent additions on rpmfind that had to > do with xfree86 servers. After reading the video how-to's, specially the video > timings one, I still don't know where to turn to settle the problem I'm > experiencing. > > I have an ATI Mach 64 (CT) card running at 1024X768 in 16 bpp. The resolution > is fine, like it has always been in OS/2 including xfree86OS/2., but when I > scroll vertically or move a window on the display, I see thin white lines > flicker across the screen. I uncommented the memory line in the config file and > changed the refresh rates to match the monitor specs to no avail. > Is this something that can be fixed with XConfigurator? No problems here on the AIW :( > If there's no other way than to try out different modelines, I guess I > eventually will but would prefer a simpler solution. I must add that the > scrolling also produces interference in the sound, in Netscape and locally also. > The CDs play fine though as the player is connected directly to the soundcard. Sounds like a k6 to me. > I have another little problem, related to the modem this time. I connected to > the net two hours after installing Linux-Mandrake with no problem (six weeks > ago), upgraded Netscape since and all in all it's been fine most of the time, > but... > > The telephone company should pick up my calls when the phone isn't > picked up after so many rings or if the line is busy. Since I installed Linux, > it doesn't work, the phone will ring indefinetely if I don't pick it up (if the > caller is very patient) and I've been told that the line gives the busy tone > when it is. I tried to set up the voice-fax application in KDE, but put it > aside for awhile. I guess it's time I get it going now and think I ought to > settle the modem thing first. I looked through the archives but can't seem to > pinpoint this particular modem problem. Unplug the phone cord from the modem and see if that makes a difference. > Much thanks in advance. > Pierre Lucas > -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop icon permissions
On Fri, 03 Dec 1999, you wrote: > Pierre Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [...] > > > Basically, can I install the floppy and the cd-rom on the panel and delete all > > the icons without risk of causing problems elsewhere? > > yes. > > --Chmouel Thanks for your quick reply Chmouel. I noticed you were the packager of some recent additions on rpmfind that had to do with xfree86 servers. After reading the video how-to's, specially the video timings one, I still don't know where to turn to settle the problem I'm experiencing. I have an ATI Mach 64 (CT) card running at 1024X768 in 16 bpp. The resolution is fine, like it has always been in OS/2 including xfree86OS/2., but when I scroll vertically or move a window on the display, I see thin white lines flicker across the screen. I uncommented the memory line in the config file and changed the refresh rates to match the monitor specs to no avail. Is this something that can be fixed with XConfigurator? If there's no other way than to try out different modelines, I guess I eventually will but would prefer a simpler solution. I must add that the scrolling also produces interference in the sound, in Netscape and locally also. The CDs play fine though as the player is connected directly to the soundcard. I have another little problem, related to the modem this time. I connected to the net two hours after installing Linux-Mandrake with no problem (six weeks ago), upgraded Netscape since and all in all it's been fine most of the time, but... The telephone company should pick up my calls when the phone isn't picked up after so many rings or if the line is busy. Since I installed Linux, it doesn't work, the phone will ring indefinetely if I don't pick it up (if the caller is very patient) and I've been told that the line gives the busy tone when it is. I tried to set up the voice-fax application in KDE, but put it aside for awhile. I guess it's time I get it going now and think I ought to settle the modem thing first. I looked through the archives but can't seem to pinpoint this particular modem problem. Much thanks in advance. Pierre Lucas
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop icon permissions
On Thu, 02 Dec 1999, you wrote: > Axalon Bloodstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Chmouel, (you still with us :)) > > yep gnus-scoring follow thread for me ;). > > > Am i correct in assumeing the desktop icons are contained in the > > kde packages and not specificly in the applications rpm, in the case of > > linuxconf and MandrakeUpdate? > > yep, all go to mandrake_desk > > --Chmouel Since you're on the subject of Desktop Icons, I would prefer to have no icons at all on my desktop in KDE. I presently have nine left (printer, cd-rom, floppy, linuxconf, rpm, home, autostart, templates and trash). I'd like to have the floppy and cd-rom on the panel (to mount-unmount) but for the rest I have no real use for, I may eventually need the startup folder I don't know but it's empty right now. Print, I can do from the applications, I delete from gmc, rpm?, I mainly use KPackage. All in all I'd rather have no icons on the desktop, but I know that if I put any on the panel and delete the icon, it goes from the panel too, obviously since the link is deleted. Basically, can I install the floppy and the cd-rom on the panel and delete all the icons without risk of causing problems elsewhere? Thanks all. Pierre Lucas
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop icon permissions
I *think* you can log on as root, go into Linuxconf, User accounts, user accounts, select the user you wish to edit, and add/subtract permisions available to that user. Linuxconf just asks me for the root pswd so I don't have to log out and then log back in as root. Same w/ Kpackage. Don't worry, I'm on my umpteenth install which I'll post about in a bit :-) -Josh hugahog wrote: > > Hi again, > On a resent install of LM 6.1 I find I do not have permission > to use most of the desktop icons such as linuxconf and rpm's. > > Yes, I created a user account during install and my root desktop > is OK. > I tried (as root) bringing up the /home/Larry desktop and changing > permissions but did not solve the problem. Strangely, I am allowed > to mount the cd-rom and floppy and configure autostart but not much > else. So I suspect there is a file I need to configure as root? > Any suggestions appreciated. :-) > Larry
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop icon permissions
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, hugahog wrote: > Hi again, > On a resent install of LM 6.1 I find I do not have permission > to use most of the desktop icons such as linuxconf and rpm's. > > Yes, I created a user account during install and my root desktop > is OK. > I tried (as root) bringing up the /home/Larry desktop and changing > permissions but did not solve the problem. Strangely, I am allowed > to mount the cd-rom and floppy and configure autostart but not much > else. So I suspect there is a file I need to configure as root? > Any suggestions appreciated. :-) > Larry If you didn't change them, the only way they could have changed is solar flares. Does absolutly nothing open when clicked on, it's the ppp problem. Does only something not open, what if any are they. Chmouel, (you still with us :)) Am i correct in assumeing the desktop icons are contained in the kde packages and not specificly in the applications rpm, in the case of linuxconf and MandrakeUpdate? -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[newbie] KDE desktop icon permissions
Hi again, On a resent install of LM 6.1 I find I do not have permission to use most of the desktop icons such as linuxconf and rpm's. Yes, I created a user account during install and my root desktop is OK. I tried (as root) bringing up the /home/Larry desktop and changing permissions but did not solve the problem. Strangely, I am allowed to mount the cd-rom and floppy and configure autostart but not much else. So I suspect there is a file I need to configure as root? Any suggestions appreciated. :-) Larry
[newbie] KDE Desktop
Hello List, Following advice from the list I have reinstalled Kppp twice and unchecked the script "Autoconfigure hostname from this IP" in the IP tab of Kppp setup. Still I find that if I connect using Kppp most other items on the desktop are unusable ie I cannot connect and then decide to open, say, Netscape or once I have used Kppp I can no longer use icons (including Kppp itself) after disconnect. Has anyone a cure short of full reinstall of M6.1, which I really would prefer not to do? Thanks. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first.
RE: [newbie] kde Desktop
I seemed to have this problem under 6.0. Does Mandrake run any particular script when loading KDE that checks if the Mandrake default icons are in Desktop, and place them there if they aren't? I really like using WindowMaker, partly because it doesn't use windows styled desktop icons, but there isn't a decent filemanager. kfm is great but it clutters up the desktop with icons. Can you run kfm without the icons? Aaron > -Original Message- > From: Richard Yevchak [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 4:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] kde Desktop > > I have the same problem. I hope someone nows of a fix. > > Richard > > Sean King wrote: > > > > I am having the strangest error with kde under mandrake 6.1. I just up > > graded my system from 6.0 to 6.1 and now every time that i log in I get > > all the icons that I deleted from the desktop file back in desktop file. > > I was wondering if any body is having these errors and if anyone knows > > how to fix this problem. > > > > Sean
Re: [newbie] kde Desktop
I have the same problem. I hope someone nows of a fix. Richard Sean King wrote: > > I am having the strangest error with kde under mandrake 6.1. I just up > graded my system from 6.0 to 6.1 and now every time that i log in I get > all the icons that I deleted from the desktop file back in desktop file. > I was wondering if any body is having these errors and if anyone knows > how to fix this problem. > > Sean
[newbie] kde Desktop
I am having the strangest error with kde under mandrake 6.1. I just up graded my system from 6.0 to 6.1 and now every time that i log in I get all the icons that I deleted from the desktop file back in desktop file. I was wondering if any body is having these errors and if anyone knows how to fix this problem. Sean
