Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-23 Thread David E. Fox
>I took the easy way out an installed a Mandrake gnutella client 
> (gtk-gnutella-0.91.1-1plf rpm). Just start it and it works right out 

Hmm. that's something to try. I just have Limewire and 'gnut' but
downloaded the source for mutella last night. I've a plf mirror
defined as one of my urpmi sources :).

> Out of curiosity sparked by this thread, I d/l'd the mutella 
> src.rpm. It won't build on current cooker 9.1, 'can't find 
> readline.h', tho readline is installed. I know I could probly hack it 

You'll need readline and readline-devel installed. Once those are in
place, it's pretty smooth sailing. There is a gotcha in the rc3 source
tarball: there's a readline4fix.c source file which needs a little
modification because it's tied to readline 4.2 and Mandrake uses
readline 4.3. Consequently, one gets unresolved link errors.

The quick and dirty fix is to insert an #undef for HAVE_READLINE42 in
that file, and recompile. I haven't done the acid test yet.

> their gnutella traffic throttled. I've gotten about half the files 
> systems, but there are large (hours) gaps between gettin files d/l'd. 

I have about 4 or five files queued since late last night - I left the 
connection open all night - still nothing when I get up this morning.

> else, throttled down, 5K/s Gnutella traffic both in & out, 5K/s 
> upload, d/l wide open ... it's like gnutella's not even running. 

Hmm. That is very attractive. My u/l is 128K as well, and as of now
there are only two outgoing connections (1k/s and 3k/s) but still it
feels throttled. Nothing is gettting d/led, and urpmi is grabbing 
gtk-gnutella verrry slowly.


> artist was available on the binary newsgroups, I wouldn't even bother 
> with gnutella.

Oh yeah, I've perused those as well from tiem to time. With knode it
is a bit awkward to piece together dozens (if not over a hundred) of
separate files then decode, but at least you get to see the girly pics
inline :).


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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday February 23 2003 12:00 am, David E. Fox wrote:
> > Well I don't know if its spyware but I certainly found mutella to
> > be much faster!!!
>
> Well does it use a Java runtime like Limewire?
>
> I use LimeWire sparingly -- just downloaded a more recent version.
> For me, sometimes I can get files fast, but that's few and far
> between, with long waits. I got one file in a few minutes, but
> another file of smaller length is taking over an hour, yet the
> connection spped was supposedly DSL. (I'm on a DSL connection,
> btw.) Other files sit waiting for a connection for what seems
> forever.
>
> I use it sparingly mostly because it really swamps my DSL
> connection with just a few files going out and one or two files
> coming in, maybe 4-6 connections at a time.
>
> > It does have a gui but I never set it up.
>
> gui is helpful but not strictly necessary. I've got an old gnut but
> last time I tried it couldn't find any files :(.

   I took the easy way out an installed a Mandrake gnutella client 
(gtk-gnutella-0.91.1-1plf rpm). Just start it and it works right out 
the box with default settings, tho it is highly configurable. Docs 
are sparse, but the GUI is fairly intuitive, and the tool tips for 
each setting are helpful, and give advice for optimum performance. 
I've never tried Limewire.

Out of curiosity sparked by this thread, I d/l'd the mutella 
src.rpm. It won't build on current cooker 9.1, 'can't find 
readline.h', tho readline is installed. I know I could probly hack it 
to get it to build, but I didn't figure it was worth the hassle 
dealin with a 'not up to snuff for current Mandrake' app. Maybe 
somebody'll package it for Mandrake, but it appears to be just a fork 
from the already available and more mature gnutella clients anyhow.

   I also have DSL (1.5Mbit downlink). Gnutella traffic is heavy 
(stuff just being routed thru my IP), people can and have d/l'd lot's 
from me at around 10K/sec (128Kbit uplink).  Since last night I've 
been tryin to d/l a not so popular artist for a friend, about 20 
titles available. Seems the few that have them are on slow 
connections, or have 'em throttled down, or hops in between have 
their gnutella traffic throttled. I've gotten about half the files 
and the d/l rate is 1 to 3k/sec (slow ;)  A fresh search from time to 
time (automatic, configurable) shows the files are still on connected 
systems, but there are large (hours) gaps between gettin files d/l'd. 
Then I'll get several in short order, one at a time since they've 
always been from the same IP.

Anyhow, with gtk-gnutella any of the loads, gnutella traffic 
(i/o), up loads, and down loads can be throttled separately. With 
everything wide open, there's very little bandwith left for anything 
else, throttled down, 5K/s Gnutella traffic both in & out, 5K/s 
upload, d/l wide open ... it's like gnutella's not even running. 
Plenty of DSL bandwidth left for me ;)  I'm servin up 12 gigs of 
mp3's, seems I give a heck of a lot more than I get ;)   If this 
artist was available on the binary newsgroups, I wouldn't even bother 
with gnutella.
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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-23 Thread Aaron
NO no java.

I will say that on Mandrake it flew for me but on Xandros I can't get a
connection up??

But I would say give it a try. The other option is gtk-gnutella, but I
also had problems with it.
Aaron
On Sun, 2003-02-23 at 08:00, David E. Fox wrote:
> > Well I don't know if its spyware but I certainly found mutella to be
> > much faster!!!
> 
> Well does it use a Java runtime like Limewire?
> 
> I use LimeWire sparingly -- just downloaded a more recent version. For
> me, sometimes I can get files fast, but that's few and far between,
> with long waits. I got one file in a few minutes, but another file of
> smaller length is taking over an hour, yet the connection spped was
> supposedly DSL. (I'm on a DSL connection, btw.) Other files sit
> waiting for a connection for what seems forever.
> 
> I use it sparingly mostly because it really swamps my DSL connection
> with just a few files going out and one or two files coming in, maybe
> 4-6 connections at a time. 
>  
> > It does have a gui but I never set it up.
> 
> gui is helpful but not strictly necessary. I've got an old gnut but
> last time I tried it couldn't find any files :(.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-22 Thread David E. Fox
> Well I don't know if its spyware but I certainly found mutella to be
> much faster!!!

Well does it use a Java runtime like Limewire?

I use LimeWire sparingly -- just downloaded a more recent version. For
me, sometimes I can get files fast, but that's few and far between,
with long waits. I got one file in a few minutes, but another file of
smaller length is taking over an hour, yet the connection spped was
supposedly DSL. (I'm on a DSL connection, btw.) Other files sit
waiting for a connection for what seems forever.

I use it sparingly mostly because it really swamps my DSL connection
with just a few files going out and one or two files coming in, maybe
4-6 connections at a time. 
 
> It does have a gui but I never set it up.

gui is helpful but not strictly necessary. I've got an old gnut but
last time I tried it couldn't find any files :(.


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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-22 Thread Aaron
Well I don't know if its spyware but I certainly found mutella to be
much faster!!!

It does have a gui but I never set it up.

You could always try it and if you don't like it dump it.
Aaron
On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 13:48, John Drouhard wrote:
> Hi, I just installed LimeWire, and found it to be really good. It downloads 
> files quickly, and searches are neat. But, I was wondering if it was spyware. 
> If it is, then I may try Mutella. So if someone could tell me if was or not, 
> that would be great.
> 
> -John Drouhard
> 
> On Tuesday 18 February 2003 07:26 am, Aaron wrote:
> > I had Limewire installed but found it slow so I dumped it for mutella
> > which I like much better.
> >
> >
> > But if you must go to the Limewire forum and under Linux installation is
> > a post that will cure all your problems.:- )(hint kaffe needs to be
> > removed)
> >
> > Aa
> >
> > On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 13:54, andy wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin
> > > (which it came in as), it came up with this message:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
> > > Preparing to install...
> > > Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
> > > Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
> > > No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
> > > environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
> > > running this program.
> > >
> > > The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working,
> > > it's just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?
> > >
> > >
> > > __
> > >
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> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-22 Thread John Drouhard
Hi, I just installed LimeWire, and found it to be really good. It downloads 
files quickly, and searches are neat. But, I was wondering if it was spyware. 
If it is, then I may try Mutella. So if someone could tell me if was or not, 
that would be great.

-John Drouhard

On Tuesday 18 February 2003 07:26 am, Aaron wrote:
> I had Limewire installed but found it slow so I dumped it for mutella
> which I like much better.
>
>
> But if you must go to the Limewire forum and under Linux installation is
> a post that will cure all your problems.:- )(hint kaffe needs to be
> removed)
>
> Aa
>
> On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 13:54, andy wrote:
> > Hi
> > I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin
> > (which it came in as), it came up with this message:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
> > Preparing to install...
> > Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
> > Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
> > No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
> > environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
> > running this program.
> >
> > The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working,
> > it's just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?
> >
> >
> > __
> >
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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-18 Thread Miark
It's been a while since I messed with installing Java2, but I think I
liked using the MDK version because it automatically mades the .bashrc
entries. I could be wrong, though--like I said, it's been a while. I
just remember the generalities:

* Must have j2re.
* Must not have Kaffe.
* The Java bin directory must be in your PATH.

Miark 




On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:41:33 -0600
andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday 17 February 2003 06:57 pm, Miark wrote:
> Yes, I do have j2re installed. Version 1.4.0_03-fcs, to be exact. Would 
> downloading if from MandrakeClub make any difference at all?
> > Which Java is installed? I think you need the j2re for it to work,
> > which you can download from MandrakeClub.
> >
> > Miark
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:54:01 -0600
> >
> > andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin
> > > (which it came in as), it came up with this message:
> > > [deek@localhost Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
> > > Preparing to install...
> > > Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
> > > Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
> > > No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
> > > environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
> > > running this program.
> > >
> > > The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working,
> > > it's just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-18 Thread bones

On Tuesday 18 February 2003 02:47, Terry Sheltra wrote:
> You need to also make sure that the path to j2re is in your
> ~/.bash_profile for it to work.  My ~/.bash_profile has:
>
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:/usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin

I just want to mention that I once had problems with that line as it is. In 
earlier Mandrake distros they had some kind of java installed (Kaffe) and if 
you don't deleted that then the line above would give you still the old java 
executable. Because when Bash searches for a program (i.e. "java") it does so 
from left to right along your PATH and uses the first program that matches 
the given name. ( - That was my explanation anyway)

If you use: 
PATH=/usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin:$HOME/bin:$PATH

With the old PATH at the end. Then you make sure that your new one is found 
before the old one.

The other solution would be to make sure there is only one program called 
"java" in your PATH.

> You definitely need Sun's j2re for it to work, and it won't work if you
> have kaffe installed as well.

You could work with Kaffe and have the rt.jar or classes.jar in your Java 
Classpath (=the PATH for java). Kaffe is fine - they just do not have the 
framework, it is only a runtime. 

But it is a bit of a hassle. Sun's Java is easier to handle.

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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 Feb 2003 7:41 pm, andy wrote:
> On Monday 17 February 2003 06:57 pm, Miark wrote:
> Yes, I do have j2re installed. Version 1.4.0_03-fcs, to be exact. Would
> downloading if from MandrakeClub make any difference at all?
>
I think the only thing is that they use different directory structure.

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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-18 Thread Aaron
I had Limewire installed but found it slow so I dumped it for mutella
which I like much better.


But if you must go to the Limewire forum and under Linux installation is
a post that will cure all your problems.:- )(hint kaffe needs to be
removed)

Aa
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 13:54, andy wrote:
> Hi
> I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin (which 
> it came in as), it came up with this message:
> [deek@localhost Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
> Preparing to install...
> Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
> Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
> No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
> environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
> running this program.
> 
> The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working, it's 
> just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?
> 
> 
> __
> 
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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-18 Thread Chuck Burns
On Monday 17 February 2003 12:54 pm, andy wrote:
*snip*
> Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
> No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
> environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
> running this program.
*snip*
if you are using the jre2 from Sun, you need to add these lines to your 
/etc/profile, assuming java is in : /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/
--
PATH=PATH$:/usr/bin/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin
export PATH
then log out and log back in for changes to take effect.. viola! your java 
interpreter is now in your path.


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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-18 Thread bones
Hi, 

Miark is right. I am just being a bit more elaborate.

It could be an issue of the version of your java executable or it could be 
that your java is not in your PATH.

On Tuesday 18 February 2003 00:57, Miark wrote:
> Which Java is installed? I think you need the j2re for it to work,
> which you can download from MandrakeClub.

According to the Limewire website, you need at least 1.3.1 (JRE) installed. 
You can get the JRE from club and also from the Sun web site at: 
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/jre/

Java needs to be in your PATH so if you type "java -version" in a terminal you 
should get something like this:

java version "1.4.1_01"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.1_01-b01)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.1_01-b01, mixed mode)

To get the java executable in your PATH, you need to add the line:

export PATH=/path/to/java/bin:$PATH

either in the file .bashrc in your $HOME directory (for this user alone) or in 
/etc/bashrc (for all users)

You then start Limewire with:
java -jar /path/to/LimeWire.jar

That worked for me, good night.
b.


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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-18 Thread andy
On Monday 17 February 2003 06:57 pm, Miark wrote:
Yes, I do have j2re installed. Version 1.4.0_03-fcs, to be exact. Would 
downloading if from MandrakeClub make any difference at all?
> Which Java is installed? I think you need the j2re for it to work,
> which you can download from MandrakeClub.
>
> Miark
>
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:54:01 -0600
>
> andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> > I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin
> > (which it came in as), it came up with this message:
> > [deek@localhost Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
> > Preparing to install...
> > Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
> > Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
> > No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
> > environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
> > running this program.
> >
> > The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working,
> > it's just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?



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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-18 Thread Terry Sheltra
You need to also make sure that the path to j2re is in your 
~/.bash_profile for it to work.  My ~/.bash_profile has:

PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:/usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin

You definitely need Sun's j2re for it to work, and it won't work if you 
have kaffe installed as well.

HTH,

Terry

Miark wrote:
Which Java is installed? I think you need the j2re for it to work, 
which you can download from MandrakeClub.

Miark



On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:54:01 -0600
andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi
I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin (which 
it came in as), it came up with this message:
[deek@localhost Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
Preparing to install...
Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
running this program.

The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working, it's 
just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?







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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-18 Thread Dennis & Sue
On Monday 17 February 2003 07:57 pm, Miark wrote:
> Which Java is installed? I think you need the j2re for it to work,
> which you can download from MandrakeClub.
>
> Miark

Yeah, Or go to www.sun.com and download it. But if you already have it ( j2re 
) installed, Then it just isn't in your path. Someone wiser will happen 
across this and tell you how to get it included into your path.

> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:54:01 -0600
>
> andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> > I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin
> > (which it came in as), it came up with this message:
> > [deek@localhost Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
> > Preparing to install...
> > Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
> > Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
> > No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
> > environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
> > running this program.
> >
> > The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working,
> > it's just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?



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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-17 Thread Miark
Which Java is installed? I think you need the j2re for it to work, 
which you can download from MandrakeClub.

Miark



On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:54:01 -0600
andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin (which 
> it came in as), it came up with this message:
> [deek@localhost Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
> Preparing to install...
> Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
> Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
> No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
> environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
> running this program.
> 
> The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working, it's 
> just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?
> 
> 


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[newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-17 Thread andy
Hi
I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin (which 
it came in as), it came up with this message:
[deek@localhost Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
Preparing to install...
Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
running this program.

The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working, it's 
just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?


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