Re: [newbie] ms-linux again?

2001-01-26 Thread Ed Tharp

as a democrat from Dade County Florida, who was out of state for the
elections, and did not vote (possibly thereby being 2% of the population
responsible for the current administration, and if we count my mom who did
not vote because I was out of town ...hmmm. I wonder if my boss is a
republican... I bet he is)
I am NOT in favor of the methodology of elections being changed at all while
baby Bro Bush is it the reigns.
- Original Message -
From: "Carroll Grigsby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] ms-linux again?


> Ed:
> Isn't this the same Microsoft that I read about a week or two back? The
> one that is proposing to convert the US election process to an
> internet-based system in place of the current hodge podge of paper
> ballots, electromechanical machines, punch cards and scanners currently
> used at a cost of only a few kGDP's*? (OK, to be fair, they've got two
> partners working with them.) The idea is to let a couple of script
> kiddies emulate the Florida election officials, but much more
> efficiently and on a much broader scale. I, for one, look forward to all
> of the talking heads on TV news explaining the difference between blue
> and black screens of death. Feel free to add your own fantasy. (It's
> Friday, folks.)
>
> * kilo Gross National Products
>
> Regards,
> cmg
>
> Ed Tharp wrote:
> >
> > an intersting article from
> > http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,41454,00.html
> > wired news
> >
> > But sources close to the company insist that Microsoft had indeed been
the
> > victim of a denial of service attack on Thursday.
> >
> > It also appears that Microsoft has now handed over the management of its
DNS
> > routing systems to Akamai, and may be running Linux on at least one of
its
> > servers.
>
>





Re: [newbie] ms-linux again?

2001-01-26 Thread Carroll Grigsby

Ed:
Isn't this the same Microsoft that I read about a week or two back? The
one that is proposing to convert the US election process to an
internet-based system in place of the current hodge podge of paper
ballots, electromechanical machines, punch cards and scanners currently
used at a cost of only a few kGDP's*? (OK, to be fair, they've got two
partners working with them.) The idea is to let a couple of script
kiddies emulate the Florida election officials, but much more
efficiently and on a much broader scale. I, for one, look forward to all
of the talking heads on TV news explaining the difference between blue
and black screens of death. Feel free to add your own fantasy. (It's
Friday, folks.)

* kilo Gross National Products

Regards,
cmg

Ed Tharp wrote:
> 
> an intersting article from
> http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,41454,00.html
> wired news
> 
> But sources close to the company insist that Microsoft had indeed been the
> victim of a denial of service attack on Thursday.
> 
> It also appears that Microsoft has now handed over the management of its DNS
> routing systems to Akamai, and may be running Linux on at least one of its
> servers.




[newbie] ms-linux again?

2001-01-26 Thread Ed Tharp

an intersting article from
http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,41454,00.html
wired news


But sources close to the company insist that Microsoft had indeed been the
victim of a denial of service attack on Thursday.

It also appears that Microsoft has now handed over the management of its DNS
routing systems to Akamai, and may be running Linux on at least one of its
servers.







Re: [newbie] MS Linux

2000-09-13 Thread Austin L. Denyer



> Thank you for posting both of your responses twice.  I couldn't
undersand
> the first time you said it, but the second time really cleared it up
for me.

Are you sure it was his fault?  The list server has been randomly
vomiting multiple copies of posts for months now...

Regards,
Ozz.





Re: [newbie] MS Linux

2000-09-13 Thread dwyatt

Thank you for posting both of your responses twice.  I couldn't undersand
the first time you said it, but the second time really cleared it up for me.


dwyatt


- Original Message -
From: "Eugene C. Zesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] MS Linux


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 13-Sep-00 00:45:03 Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > writes:
> >
> > << http://www.mslinux.com >>
> > no such address! and thats a good thing
>
> My kill-filter is starting to twitch
>





RE: [newbie] MS Linux

2000-09-13 Thread webmaster

the joke site resides at http://www.mslinux.org



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eugene C.
Zesch
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] MS Linux


could'nt get the link to work


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> go forth and prosper...http://www.mslinux.com





Re: [newbie] MS Linux

2000-09-13 Thread Mwinold

you know i almost started freaking before i realized it was a gag, that is a 
very scary thought though



In a message dated 13-Sep-00 06:55:13 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< http://www.mslinux.org >>




Re: [newbie] MS Linux

2000-09-13 Thread Charles Oriez

At 07:52 AM 9/13/00 -0400, Adam wrote:
>*hint* try http://www.mslinux.org

I'm still on my windoze box this morning reading this.  I assume Linux 
netscape displays it properly, but they have serious problems on windoze 
browsers (especially MSIE which is still displaying the real MS pull down bar)

great parody though


--
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes





Re: [newbie] MS Linux

2000-09-13 Thread Adam

*hint* try http://www.mslinux.org

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] MS Linux


> In a message dated 13-Sep-00 00:45:03 Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
> << http://www.mslinux.com >>
> no such address! and thats a good thing
>
>
>
>





Re: [newbie] MS Linux

2000-09-12 Thread Eugene C. Zesch

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 13-Sep-00 00:45:03 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> 
> << http://www.mslinux.com >>
> no such address! and thats a good thing

My kill-filter is starting to twitch




Re: [newbie] MS Linux

2000-09-12 Thread Eugene C. Zesch

could'nt get the link to work


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> go forth and prosper...http://www.mslinux.com




Re: [newbie] MS Linux

2000-09-12 Thread Mwinold

In a message dated 13-Sep-00 00:45:03 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< http://www.mslinux.com >>
no such address! and thats a good thing




[newbie] MS Linux

2000-09-12 Thread Taamensu

go forth and prosper...http://www.mslinux.com




Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread Sthitaprajna

On 2 Jul 00, at 18:51, Paul wrote:

> I missed something of this thread, it seems. MS did try to make the
> transition from Linux to Windows NT after they took over Hotmail, and they
> put in a LOT of effort and money. The problem that they faced, however,

Well, Hotmail never ran of LinuxIIRC, it used to run FreeBSD, and 
it still runs FBSD. And it uses qmail and tries to be pretty secure. 
IMHO, BSD clones are somewhat stabler than Linux systems, if only 
Bill Joy came out from Sun and helped guide another release of the 
Berkeley Unix, we people sure would have lots of advances - technical 
and otherwise.

Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com
  




Re[2]: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread Michael P. Wilson


When they bought HotMail, they tried to convert the servers to NT, but
it was a complete disaster (as you might imagine.)  So they had to
switch back to the original platform.

I don't recall which unix flavor it was though.  Something in the back
of my mind says BSD.

- M
Sunday, July 02, 2000, 5:27:05 PM, you wrote:

JA> Microsoft uses Linux on its servers
JA> Who on earth told you that??/

JA> On Sun, 02 Jul 2000, also sprach:
>> MS makes applications for Mac OS and others, but nothing for Linux. It seems 
>> especially strange considering that Microsoft choose Linux to run it's 
>> Hotmail webservers, instead of NT! I wonder how long until MS Linux comes 
>> out? Will Linux ever replace the old "Quick and Dirty OS" (that's what it 
>> was known as before Bill bought it out from a small Seattle company in 
>> 1980)? Then a future version of Windows could just be a Windows manager like 
>> KDE with X.
>> 
>> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com





Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread John Arkoulis

Microsoft uses Linux on its servers
Who on earth told you that??/

On Sun, 02 Jul 2000, also sprach:
> MS makes applications for Mac OS and others, but nothing for Linux. It seems 
> especially strange considering that Microsoft choose Linux to run it's 
> Hotmail webservers, instead of NT! I wonder how long until MS Linux comes 
> out? Will Linux ever replace the old "Quick and Dirty OS" (that's what it 
> was known as before Bill bought it out from a small Seattle company in 
> 1980)? Then a future version of Windows could just be a Windows manager like 
> KDE with X.
> 
> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
-- 
Windoze is a virus with a user interface.
This message was created with Linux




Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread Mike & Tracy Holt


>   http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=hotmail.com&Examine=Wait..


Another great one!  Thanks again!

Mike =)




Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sun, 02 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> That's great to hear (!), do you possibly know of any reference to that on
> the web?  I'd like to share that with some co-workers, but I'm afraid
> without proof it could seem sorta like an 'urban legend'.  I tried searching
> both cnet and zdnet with no luck, it would be nice to find a page of 'little
> known facts' about Linux - anyone know of any?

  http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=hotmail.com&Examine=Wait..

> 
> Mike
> 
> > On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, someone wrote:
> >
> > >> > MS makes applications for Mac OS and others, but nothing for Linux.
> > >It seems > > especially strange considering that Microsoft choose Linux
> > >to run it's > > Hotmail webservers, instead of NT!
> >
> > I missed something of this thread, it seems. MS did try to make the
> > transition from Linux to Windows NT after they took over Hotmail, and they
> > put in a LOT of effort and money. The problem that they faced, however,
> > was that there was no combination of NT-computer/memory/disk and windoze
> > mailserver that could handle the amount of accounts (millions) and e-mails
> > (gazillions per day). They tried setting this up for 4 months, shadowing
> > the load of the Sparc's that Hotmail used to NT machines in each
> > conceivable configuration. It did not work.
> >
> > So they did not choose Linux, they were just doomed to continue using it,
> > in a way, since their own product was not able to make it work.
> >
> > The only thing that I know of that MS did for Unix (not even specifically
> > Linux), is build some things for Apache so that can support "BackPage"
> > extensions. (Who'd want that with PHP anyway.)
> >
> > I know about the limitations of win NT compared to Unix. At work we use a
> > bit of a database that continuously calculates processes (1.6 million
> > measuring points that are updated every 2 minutes). All attempts to make
> > this go on Win NT failed 10 out of 10 times. MS-Access cannot take it,
> > Oracle for Windows is way too slow.
> >
> > A nice basic Oracle database on an HP-9000, running HP-UX, has no problem
> > with it...
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > --
> > Does anyone know what killed the Dead Sea?
> >
> > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0(
> > http://nlpagan.net -  ICQ 147208
> > Registered  Linux  User   174403
> >
-- 
~~   Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

http://www.hotmailsux.com/ should do the trick. I stumbled upon it while
trying to do the same thing as you, Mike (i.e. convince friends how crap
Hotmail and Microsoft is). However, it states that Hotmail began with FreeBSD
(not Linux), and after a failed attempt at moving it to NT, it is now back on
FreeBSD. Also on that site are good links, including one to get free webmail at
microsuxx.com. I made an account, and I can say it's pretty good (and quite
speedy too).

I remember reading in a reputable computer publication (I don't remember
which one) a while ago that for a (very) brief time M$ had part of it's
microsoft.com site running on Linux with Apache, and some pages had Linux
links. This apparently was *fixed* as soon as word got out. This could well be
true, especially since Bill has been known to have held shares in Linux
companies in the past.


On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, Mike & Tracy Holt wrote:
> That's great to hear (!), do you possibly know of any reference to that on
> the web?  I'd like to share that with some co-workers, but I'm afraid
> without proof it could seem sorta like an 'urban legend'.  I tried searching
> both cnet and zdnet with no luck, it would be nice to find a page of 'little
> known facts' about Linux - anyone know of any?
> 
> Mike
> 
> > On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, someone wrote:
> >
> > >> > MS makes applications for Mac OS and others, but nothing for Linux.
> > >It seems > > especially strange considering that Microsoft choose Linux
> > >to run it's > > Hotmail webservers, instead of NT!
> >
> > I missed something of this thread, it seems. MS did try to make the
> > transition from Linux to Windows NT after they took over Hotmail, and they
> > put in a LOT of effort and money. The problem that they faced, however,
> > was that there was no combination of NT-computer/memory/disk and windoze
> > mailserver that could handle the amount of accounts (millions) and e-mails
> > (gazillions per day). They tried setting this up for 4 months, shadowing
> > the load of the Sparc's that Hotmail used to NT machines in each
> > conceivable configuration. It did not work.
> >
> > So they did not choose Linux, they were just doomed to continue using it,
> > in a way, since their own product was not able to make it work.
> >
> > The only thing that I know of that MS did for Unix (not even specifically
> > Linux), is build some things for Apache so that can support "BackPage"
> > extensions. (Who'd want that with PHP anyway.)
> >
> > I know about the limitations of win NT compared to Unix. At work we use a
> > bit of a database that continuously calculates processes (1.6 million
> > measuring points that are updated every 2 minutes). All attempts to make
> > this go on Win NT failed 10 out of 10 times. MS-Access cannot take it,
> > Oracle for Windows is way too slow.
> >
> > A nice basic Oracle database on an HP-9000, running HP-UX, has no problem
> > with it...
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > --
> > Does anyone know what killed the Dead Sea?
> >
> > )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0(
> > http://nlpagan.net -  ICQ 147208
> > Registered  Linux  User   174403
> >

-- 
 _

Sridhar Dhanapalan
Linux is like a wigwam...No windows, no gates.
   Apache inside.
 _




Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread Mike & Tracy Holt

That's great to hear (!), do you possibly know of any reference to that on
the web?  I'd like to share that with some co-workers, but I'm afraid
without proof it could seem sorta like an 'urban legend'.  I tried searching
both cnet and zdnet with no luck, it would be nice to find a page of 'little
known facts' about Linux - anyone know of any?

Mike

> On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, someone wrote:
>
> >> > MS makes applications for Mac OS and others, but nothing for Linux.
> >It seems > > especially strange considering that Microsoft choose Linux
> >to run it's > > Hotmail webservers, instead of NT!
>
> I missed something of this thread, it seems. MS did try to make the
> transition from Linux to Windows NT after they took over Hotmail, and they
> put in a LOT of effort and money. The problem that they faced, however,
> was that there was no combination of NT-computer/memory/disk and windoze
> mailserver that could handle the amount of accounts (millions) and e-mails
> (gazillions per day). They tried setting this up for 4 months, shadowing
> the load of the Sparc's that Hotmail used to NT machines in each
> conceivable configuration. It did not work.
>
> So they did not choose Linux, they were just doomed to continue using it,
> in a way, since their own product was not able to make it work.
>
> The only thing that I know of that MS did for Unix (not even specifically
> Linux), is build some things for Apache so that can support "BackPage"
> extensions. (Who'd want that with PHP anyway.)
>
> I know about the limitations of win NT compared to Unix. At work we use a
> bit of a database that continuously calculates processes (1.6 million
> measuring points that are updated every 2 minutes). All attempts to make
> this go on Win NT failed 10 out of 10 times. MS-Access cannot take it,
> Oracle for Windows is way too slow.
>
> A nice basic Oracle database on an HP-9000, running HP-UX, has no problem
> with it...
>
> Paul
>
> --
> Does anyone know what killed the Dead Sea?
>
> )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0(
> http://nlpagan.net -  ICQ 147208
> Registered  Linux  User   174403
>




Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread Mark Weaver

Just keep a copy of the REAL thing handy in case. Prolly won't be a lot of
support if that ever happens, but at least we'll have something that won't
crash every time you open the window! Pardon the pun

-- 
Mark

I love my Linux Box...
REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym.
Registered Linux user # 1299563

On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Roger Pithers wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> > yes and I like it that way. The minute M$ starts making apps for Linux I
> > have a feeling we'll be right back to one of the original reasons I left
> > windows. I don't want that and I'm hoping neither does the Linux
> > commuinity at large!
> > 
> I agree, if Bill gets his sticky fingers on Linux I'm off to BeOS!
> > -- 
> > Mark
> > 
> > I love my Linux Box...
> > REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym.
> > Registered Linux user # 1299563
> > 
> > On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Thomas 2 wrote:
> > 
> > > MS makes applications for Mac OS and others, but nothing for Linux. It seems 
> > > especially strange considering that Microsoft choose Linux to run it's 
> > > Hotmail webservers, instead of NT! I wonder how long until MS Linux comes 
> > > out? Will Linux ever replace the old "Quick and Dirty OS" (that's what it 
> > > was known as before Bill bought it out from a small Seattle company in 
> > > 1980)? Then a future version of Windows could just be a Windows manager like 
> > > KDE with X.
> > > 
> > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
> > > 
> > >
> 
> 




Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread Paul

On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, someone wrote:

>> > MS makes applications for Mac OS and others, but nothing for Linux.
>It seems > > especially strange considering that Microsoft choose Linux
>to run it's > > Hotmail webservers, instead of NT!

I missed something of this thread, it seems. MS did try to make the
transition from Linux to Windows NT after they took over Hotmail, and they
put in a LOT of effort and money. The problem that they faced, however,
was that there was no combination of NT-computer/memory/disk and windoze
mailserver that could handle the amount of accounts (millions) and e-mails
(gazillions per day). They tried setting this up for 4 months, shadowing
the load of the Sparc's that Hotmail used to NT machines in each
conceivable configuration. It did not work.

So they did not choose Linux, they were just doomed to continue using it,
in a way, since their own product was not able to make it work.

The only thing that I know of that MS did for Unix (not even specifically
Linux), is build some things for Apache so that can support "BackPage"
extensions. (Who'd want that with PHP anyway.)

I know about the limitations of win NT compared to Unix. At work we use a
bit of a database that continuously calculates processes (1.6 million
measuring points that are updated every 2 minutes). All attempts to make
this go on Win NT failed 10 out of 10 times. MS-Access cannot take it,
Oracle for Windows is way too slow.

A nice basic Oracle database on an HP-9000, running HP-UX, has no problem
with it...

Paul

-- 
Does anyone know what killed the Dead Sea?

)0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0(
http://nlpagan.net -  ICQ 147208
Registered  Linux  User   174403




Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread Mark Weaver

yes and I like it that way. The minute M$ starts making apps for Linux I
have a feeling we'll be right back to one of the original reasons I left
windows. I don't want that and I'm hoping neither does the Linux
commuinity at large!

-- 
Mark

I love my Linux Box...
REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym.
Registered Linux user # 1299563

On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Thomas 2 wrote:

> MS makes applications for Mac OS and others, but nothing for Linux. It seems 
> especially strange considering that Microsoft choose Linux to run it's 
> Hotmail webservers, instead of NT! I wonder how long until MS Linux comes 
> out? Will Linux ever replace the old "Quick and Dirty OS" (that's what it 
> was known as before Bill bought it out from a small Seattle company in 
> 1980)? Then a future version of Windows could just be a Windows manager like 
> KDE with X.
> 
> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
> 
> 




Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

2000-07-02 Thread Sthitaprajna

On 2 Jul 00, at 0:42, Thomas 2 wrote:

> MS makes applications for Mac OS and others, but nothing for Linux. It seems 
> especially strange considering that Microsoft choose Linux to run it's 
> Hotmail webservers, instead of NT! I wonder how long until MS Linux comes 
> out? Will Linux ever replace the old "Quick and Dirty OS" (that's what it 
> was known as before Bill bought it out from a small Seattle company in 
> 1980)? Then a future version of Windows could just be a Windows manager like 
> KDE with X.

Hey, no Ms bashing. This is a Linux help list, lets keep it that way. 
OTOH, what you say is perfectly true, I mean the fact that a large 
company like MS should put in some effort into contributing towards a 
stable, reliable and dependable OS. It may not be Linux, FreeBSD, it 
is enough if they make something that works well, and is rock solid. 
But then, they'll have to write it from scratch, coz DOS can never 
give the stability of the Unices.

Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com
  




Re: [newbie] MS Linux?

1999-08-31 Thread George

That is somewhat scary. It reminds me what Gates said few weeks ago. The
secret of MS success, is the stupidity of other company's, and that he would
destroy MS if he would take over another company very fast. 
But to takeover Linux movement, it's a long shot at best, I think. Like linux
doesn't belong to Red Hat, it will be hard to belong to any company.


Al the best,

George




[newbie] MS Linux?

1999-08-31 Thread John Connell



Check this out. Kinda scarey.
John http://securityportal.com/direct.cgi?/coverstory19990830.html


Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!

1999-05-09 Thread Stefan Dozier

At 10:13 PM 5/8/99 -0500, you wrote:

>I remember those days well. Had a commodore 64 myself what a joy.

I remember those days as well. Actually, computing was really fun back in
those days. I still have my Commodore VIC 20 and C128. Keeping them for my
private computing museum. And to think what I paid to get my C128 system,
can now probably purchase a Pentium III system, with money left over.



Stefan Dozier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!

1999-05-08 Thread sphilp

On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 10:13:03PM -0500, Lyndon Lininger Sr. wrote:
> I remember those days well. Had a commodore 64 myself what a joy.
> 
> > Heh.  Filesystem GUIs were around long before OS/2 or MacOS, though they
> > were significantly less complex.  Anyone remember GeOS for the Commodore
> > 64/128 by Berkeley Softworks?  Shockingly similar to early versions of
> > MacOS.  This was even before the days of mice (mouses?) and you had to
> > maneuver around your "desktop" with a joystick.  Eventually Commodore
> > mice came along, and unless my memory is fading they were among the very
> > first on the market.  IBM users were relegated to 286 and eventually 386
> > machines and old IBM and MS-Dos, usually with the now forgotten "green
> > screen" monochrome displays or, if you were _really_ lucky an EGA or CGA
> > display.  Hehe... man, those were the days.
> > 
> > Off topic?  Well, yeah... sorry.

I think I've still got my GeoProgrammer 5.25" disks and manuals at home
somewhere.  Might have to look those up one of these days.  :)

-- 
Steve Philp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!

1999-05-08 Thread Lyndon Lininger Sr.

I remember those days well. Had a commodore 64 myself what a joy.

Lyndon Lininger Sr.

- Original Message - 
From: Meanie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1999 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!


> Heh.  Filesystem GUIs were around long before OS/2 or MacOS, though they
> were significantly less complex.  Anyone remember GeOS for the Commodore
> 64/128 by Berkeley Softworks?  Shockingly similar to early versions of
> MacOS.  This was even before the days of mice (mouses?) and you had to
> maneuver around your "desktop" with a joystick.  Eventually Commodore
> mice came along, and unless my memory is fading they were among the very
> first on the market.  IBM users were relegated to 286 and eventually 386
> machines and old IBM and MS-Dos, usually with the now forgotten "green
> screen" monochrome displays or, if you were _really_ lucky an EGA or CGA
> display.  Hehe... man, those were the days.
> 
> Off topic?  Well, yeah... sorry.
> 
> --
> Meanie



Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!

1999-05-08 Thread Meanie

Heh.  Filesystem GUIs were around long before OS/2 or MacOS, though they
were significantly less complex.  Anyone remember GeOS for the Commodore
64/128 by Berkeley Softworks?  Shockingly similar to early versions of
MacOS.  This was even before the days of mice (mouses?) and you had to
maneuver around your "desktop" with a joystick.  Eventually Commodore
mice came along, and unless my memory is fading they were among the very
first on the market.  IBM users were relegated to 286 and eventually 386
machines and old IBM and MS-Dos, usually with the now forgotten "green
screen" monochrome displays or, if you were _really_ lucky an EGA or CGA
display.  Hehe... man, those were the days.

Off topic?  Well, yeah... sorry.

--
Meanie



Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!

1999-05-08 Thread Steve Philp

Roberto Angelo wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] scritto:
> 
> > As for code copying, I think you're more likely to see that flowing
> in the
> > opposite direction.  I'd imagine that Microsoft programmers could find
> > interesting ideas in the Linux source that could be made for use in
> the
> > Windows platforms.  That's illegal without code release, of course,
> but it
> > didn't stop BeOS from using LILO or some of the device driver code.
> 
>   I didn't think about code but about logos: see the joke (I suppose,
> I hope)
>www.microsoff.com/linux
> 
>   I agree and appreciate your comments, thank you.

Seems like it was only a couple weeks ago that a Linux site got a lawyer
letter from Microsoft's attorneys about the slogan "Where do you want to
go tomorrow."  

-- 
Steve Philp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!

1999-05-08 Thread Roberto Angelo

[EMAIL PROTECTED] scritto:

> As for code copying, I think you're more likely to see that flowing
in the
> opposite direction.  I'd imagine that Microsoft programmers could find
> interesting ideas in the Linux source that could be made for use in
the
> Windows platforms.  That's illegal without code release, of course,
but it
> didn't stop BeOS from using LILO or some of the device driver code.

  I didn't think about code but about logos: see the joke (I suppose,
I hope) 
   www.microsoff.com/linux

  I agree and appreciate your comments, thank you.
  
> 
> -- 
> Steve Philp
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!

1999-05-08 Thread Roberto Angelo



Nicholas Barnard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scritto:
>
> At 03:51 PM 5/8/99 +, you wrote:
> >On Sat, 8 May 1999, Roberto Angelo wrote:
> >> in the future, at the
> >> appropriate time, MS with its powerfull, legaly, may say: Linux
have
> >> copied me so end of Linux.
> >No way - there's absolutely nothing we copied from M$. What do you
think
> >of? KDE resembles the Windoze 9x UI a bit? Yes, but M$ stole that
from
> >MacOS and OS/2.

  I didn't write about KDE but about the joke Microsoff Linux 98 (yes
i write correct Microsoff) www.microsoff.com/linux
> 
> Microsoft didn't steal the interface to OS/2 - they wrote it..  OS/2
Pre
> version 2 was a joint project of Microsoft and IBM - Gates said once
that
> it would replace windows... 
>
  Mmmh the same thing that they have speak about Mac. I little
collaboration was enought to copy or re-write (as you like) the same
interface.
  Have you never see the halloween documents ?
 
  http://www.dislessici.org/opensource/halloween.html
  
  

 
> Nicholas Barnard
>
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Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!

1999-05-08 Thread Nicholas Barnard

At 03:51 PM 5/8/99 +, you wrote:
>On Sat, 8 May 1999, Roberto Angelo wrote:
>> in the future, at the
>> appropriate time, MS with its powerfull, legaly, may say: Linux have
>> copied me so end of Linux.
>No way - there's absolutely nothing we copied from M$. What do you think
>of? KDE resembles the Windoze 9x UI a bit? Yes, but M$ stole that from
>MacOS and OS/2.

Microsoft didn't steal the interface to OS/2 - they wrote it..  OS/2 Pre
version 2 was a joint project of Microsoft and IBM - Gates said once that
it would replace windows... 

Nicholas Barnard



RE: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!

1999-05-08 Thread Royce Teo

OMG there *are* people who actually fall for this one. And I thought the
joke itself was funny enuf.

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Duke16
Sent:   Saturday, May 08, 1999 10:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!

OMG those come bustards, you try to run away from them but they just pull
you right back in.

You no I'm going to laugh so hard when no one buys it. It could be the first
linux that crashes on a regular bases.

- Original Message -
From: Guillermo Belli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1999 1:35 AM
Subject: [newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!


> Hi all
>
> Did you know Microsoff Linux 98 has been relased?? Don't trust me?? then
check
> it out by yourself at www.microsoff.com/linux  and you'll see.
>
>
> PS: Before you get a heart attack or go crazy, take a close look at the
>   address. Don't panic :)



[newbie] MS Linux 98 is out!!!!!!

1999-05-07 Thread Guillermo Belli

Hi all

Did you know Microsoff Linux 98 has been relased?? Don't trust me?? then check
it out by yourself at www.microsoff.com/linux  and you'll see.


PS: Before you get a heart attack or go crazy, take a close look at the
  address. Don't panic :)