Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?

2000-06-30 Thread Scott Tyson

Install XFREE86 4.0 and then install the Linux reference drivers from
Nvidia.  

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On 6/30/2000 at 12:07 AM Gary scribbled:

>On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 10:03:16AM +0530 or thereabouts, Sthitaprajna
wrote:
>
>> > Also, there was talk of problems with freeX86 V4, versus the 
>> established version.  Should I install it over 7.0 (which is very
well
>> > setup for me presently), or just do a fresh install?  Any thoughts
from
>> those who have  installed it?
>> 
>> I believe, if something is working fine, don't break it. If you do 
>> not find any special need, then there is no need to upgrade, or for 
>> that matter change your OS. When I upgraded the X server to version 
>> on my m/c, my goal was better support for my V3, so that I could
play 
>> Quake better. And it worked better too, with better drivers, the glx

>> extensions and the new XFree4
>
>Thanks for your input.  I really would like the drivers for my TNT2
though,
>plus the mentioned above.  Do you think an install over the 7.0 would
>suffice?  I really have my doubts considering the horror stories here
upon
>upgrading.
>
>Best regards,
>Gary






Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?

2000-06-29 Thread Sthitaprajna

On 30 Jun 00, at 0:07, Gary wrote:
 
> Thanks for your input.  I really would like the drivers for my TNT2 though,
> plus the mentioned above.  Do you think an install over the 7.0 would

The Creative team seems to have released some sort of drivers for the 
TNT2. You could try the gaming newsgroups for more news of the same. 
also see http://www.lokigames.com.development for new info and 
drivers.

> suffice?  I really have my doubts considering the horror stories here upon
> upgrading.

Upgrading is best left aside with most Unices, except Debian which 
has a nice tool called apt. However, you can do things with the least 
hassle on a mandrake system if you've taken some precautions,like
1. Make multiple partitions..
My setup is 
/boot - 10 megs
/ - 300 megs
swap - total 160 megs
/var - 200 megs
/home - 800 megs
/usr - all the rest, in my case 2.5 GB

With a setup like this, you can save all the data in your home 
directory and the configuration files in /etc. Then doing a fresh 
install in the text mode is both fast and easy. Upgrading takes way 
too much time and I had a bad experience with upgrading Redhat where 
the compilers broke after the upgrade. Si I would'nt recommed it

Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com
  




Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?

2000-06-29 Thread Anthony Huereca


>  I have been lurking and have noticed that many people have had trouble with
> installing V7.1.  I am not talking about burning CDs, etc, but rather with
> the actual installation.  I just ordered 7.1 and the CDs should be here
> shortly.  Question is, is it okay.  Seems like some have been having trouble
> with either X config, or not picking up something, or mouse problems, etc. 

People will always have problems installing a distro. I've been lucky, I've
never had a major unfixable problem during the install. But I'm helping a
friend of mine trying to install 6.1 and he's having all sorts of trouble. It
just varies by the machine. 

> Also, there was talk of problems with freeX86 V4, versus the established
> version.  

The first time I tried it, it worked fine except for the mouse wheel. I
eventually found out how to get the mouse wheel to work, but by that time I was
stuck in 3.3.6. And then when I finally figured out how to get back to X 4.0,
the resolution was all screwed up and none of the X tools seemed to affect 4.0.
The second time I installed, 4.0 came up with too high a resolution again, and
now I couldn't get back to 3.3.6. So finally I just said screw it and went with
3.3.6. Basically, if your card is supported under 3.3.6, then go with 3.3.6. 

>Should I install it over 7.0 (which is very well setup for me
> presently), or just do a fresh install?  

Apparently there has been problems with installs taking forever (12 hours +) if
you decide to upgrade. So I'd suggest a fresh install. 

Any thoughts from those who have
> installed it?
> 
> Thanks,   
> 
> Gary
-- 
Anthony Huereca
http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 




Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?

2000-06-29 Thread Gary

On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 10:03:16AM +0530 or thereabouts, Sthitaprajna wrote:

> > Also, there was talk of problems with freeX86 V4, versus the 
> established version.  Should I install it over 7.0 (which is very well
> > setup for me presently), or just do a fresh install?  Any thoughts from
> those who have  installed it?
> 
> I believe, if something is working fine, don't break it. If you do 
> not find any special need, then there is no need to upgrade, or for 
> that matter change your OS. When I upgraded the X server to version 
> on my m/c, my goal was better support for my V3, so that I could play 
> Quake better. And it worked better too, with better drivers, the glx 
> extensions and the new XFree4

Thanks for your input.  I really would like the drivers for my TNT2 though,
plus the mentioned above.  Do you think an install over the 7.0 would
suffice?  I really have my doubts considering the horror stories here upon
upgrading.

Best regards,
Gary 




Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?

2000-06-29 Thread Sthitaprajna

On 29 Jun 00, at 19:49, Gary wrote:

> Also, there was talk of problems with freeX86 V4, versus the 
established
> version.  Should I install it over 7.0 (which is very well setup 
for me
> presently), or just do a fresh install?  Any thoughts from those 
who have
> installed it?

I believe, if something is working fine, don't break it. If you do 
not find any special need, then there is no need to upgrade, or for 
that matter change your OS. When I upgraded the X server to version 
on my m/c, my goal was better support for my V3, so that I could play 
Quake better. And it worked better too, with better drivers, the glx 
extensions and the new XFree4

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?

2000-06-29 Thread Sthitaprajna

On 29 Jun 00, at 19:33, Larry Hignight wrote:

> If for some reason your employer or someone else won't allow 
you to delete
> the messages check into fetchmail.  It is an excellent program 
designed to fetch

The employer will have to be real daft to have such a policy. Pretty 
soon, the mailbox quotas will be filled, what then?

> mail off of servers.  Don't quote me but I believe it will do what 
you need
> quite nicely.  Be sure to read up a bit and try fetchmailconf for 
the
> configuration.

Fetchmail has no option to download only new messages. The only 
options of note are the "all" option which'll get everything, and the 
"keep" option which'll suck all but leave the msgs on the mail host.

There's one way thoughif you can run a procmail recipe right at 
your mail host, it might help, like you download all the headers and 
select those messages you want to download. But don't think KMAIL is 
capable of this. If your mail host follows the IMAP proto, it might 
help.

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[newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?

2000-06-29 Thread Gary

Hello All,

 I have been lurking and have noticed that many people have had trouble with
installing V7.1.  I am not talking about burning CDs, etc, but rather with
the actual installation.  I just ordered 7.1 and the CDs should be here
shortly.  Question is, is it okay.  Seems like some have been having trouble
with either X config, or not picking up something, or mouse problems, etc. 

Also, there was talk of problems with freeX86 V4, versus the established
version.  Should I install it over 7.0 (which is very well setup for me
presently), or just do a fresh install?  Any thoughts from those who have
installed it?

Thanks, 

Gary