Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
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> idea of using a board with that chipset on the new system I plan to build
> but I've decided to wait for the "Opteron/Hammer/Whatever they'll call it
> to be released and go through a couple of steppings first. If I'm going
> to spend that sort of money I may as well get another three years between
planning on getting me a dual opteron myself. hope she runs as advertised.
i figure a year or so after it comes out the price drop (i hope) combined
with my running a 750 will force the issue..
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist sidetrack
On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 00:37, dfox wrote: > > > Hat ha eddig nem volt nyilvanvalo :-() > > My hovercraft is full of eels. > > (ducking) > > LOL! :) LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
on MY wishlist for MDK 9.0... voice activated menus. ( I liked viavoice in 7.2, and install and use it still. seems to me the only viavoice that really worked) On Friday 14 June 2002 07:46 am, you wrote: > On Thursday 13 June 2002 09:37 pm, Damian G wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > Damian, > > > > > > clearly you haven't seen kde-301 yet, have you? and besides...it's not > > > their job to make it "look" prettier. thats what desktop managers like > > > KDE, Blackbox, and the rest are for, right? > > > > .. i used KDE 3.0.1 a while and i dumped it when i found fluxbox ;o) > > > > but i think you didn't get my point. i'm not saying Mandrake has to > > improve KDE themes. that's up to kde-look . > > > > > > .. you will have perfect, beautiful icons, transparent menus, > > sleek 3D window decorations, gorgeous fonts with antialiasing. > > and a horrid "mandrake control center" icon that matches nothing, > > looks way too flat, and with opaque colors. > > http://damz.net/theme1/linux.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist sidetrack
> > Hat ha eddig nem volt nyilvanvalo :-() My hovercraft is full of eels. (ducking) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
My wishlist, for 9.0 is FreeSwan 1.97 with X.509 patches up to 0.9.10 :) or is this up to the freeswan list to submit the RPMS? Regards, Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. - Original Message - From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >I disagree with the Opera thing.. not that it's a bad browser or anything, > >but it is closed source... maybe an extra's cd filled with all closed > >source code, but I don't think it should be mixed together. The beauty is > >knowing I can do whatever I want with a standard 2 disc install and not > >have to worry about violating patents or getting in trouble. THis is one > >thing I admire about Debian. > > > AFAIK, this is the case with 8.2 - the standard download edition (2 or 3 > CDs, depending one whether you want the /contrib stuff) is now > completely Open Source (which is why there are still a few little things > you may need to download after installation, like closed-source > drivers). The last proprietary application in Mandrake was, I believe, > Netscape 4.something, which has now been replaced by Mozilla. If you > want the proprietary software as well, there's the PowerPack. > > Sir Robin > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I disagree with the Opera thing.. not that it's a bad browser or anything, >but it is closed source... maybe an extra's cd filled with all closed >source code, but I don't think it should be mixed together. The beauty is >knowing I can do whatever I want with a standard 2 disc install and not >have to worry about violating patents or getting in trouble. THis is one >thing I admire about Debian. > AFAIK, this is the case with 8.2 - the standard download edition (2 or 3 CDs, depending one whether you want the /contrib stuff) is now completely Open Source (which is why there are still a few little things you may need to download after installation, like closed-source drivers). The last proprietary application in Mandrake was, I believe, Netscape 4.something, which has now been replaced by Mozilla. If you want the proprietary software as well, there's the PowerPack. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 June 2002 3:31 pm, Linux Maniac wrote: > I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My > wishlist is in short: > > - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to > provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 > - Hungarian spell checkers > - Opera 6.x > - Mldonkey > - Latest gtk-gnutella > - Themable graphical boot > - More KDE/Gnome themes > - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) > - Mozilla 1.1 > - Mplayer > - An advanced control center with more advanced options > - winex and crossover office > - preinstalled flash plugin > - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would > be only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome > - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, > etc.) -Maybe a change of logo? Things are generally very impressive, but there are a few annoying glitches that could be fixed fairly easily: - - 'obvious' firewalling with something like Guarddog (the current security level method is not obvious enough; it's hard to see the firewall doing its stuff, hence unclear that it's actually working); - - the user interface of the Mandrake-specific applications improved, particularly font importing (I regret to say this, but the profusion of buttons there is just awful); - - the ghastly and broken decorative fonts removed (the Adobe, URW and B&H ones are quite enough to be going on with as most people will import Microsoft fonts); - - support for both greyscale and subpixel anti-aliasing (with a flat panel having to edit /etc/X11/Xftconfig on reinstall to add one line is irritating); - - the Mosfet Liquid theme compiled in as standard (one less job to do, and I'd imagine most KDE users have it installed by now); - - some solution for the Alcatel Speedtouch USB driver problem (getting the proprietary mgmt.o microcode file by hook or by crook as, without it, the Mandrake installation _can never work_ out of the box); - - KDE applications added to fill in gaps currently occupied by Gnome applications only (eg k3b for CD-R and CD-RW, kbear for FTP, kile for LaTeX editing if emTeX is installed), thus enabling 'clean' KDE without Gnome installations. Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9CkkWCv59vFiSU4YRAk5NAKCg2z9QEIIeY8dnt5sadPMgcIF1lQCeMlGo LfiG5Z1fXIUqIc9L0YI35bM= =/S83 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
Boxed sets that come with a complete set of RPMs would be nice. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist sidetrack
On Thursday 13 June 2002 11:57 am, you wrote: Well, I'm not exactly fluent in the language, I only now a little, (my father is Hungarian) so I'll try to figure out what you're saying: "Well, I'm not Hungarian but I speak the language." close? "By the way, are you subscribed to the hungarian mandrake list?" Please tell me if I'm way off. And if that is what you were asking, no I'm not. > Sorry for those who do not speak hungarian > > Hat ha eddig nem volt nyilvanvalo :-() > > Udv! fenn vagy a [EMAIL PROTECTED] listan? > > BAT > > 2002-06-13, cs keltezéssel Michael ezt írta: > > On Thursday 13 June 2002 09:32 am, you wrote: > > You mentioned Hungarian spell checkers...magyar vagyok? > > > > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Linux Maniac wrote: > > > > I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My > > > > wishlist is in short: > > > > > > > > - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to > > > > provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 > > > > - Hungarian spell checkers > > > > - Opera 6.x > > > > - Mldonkey > > > > - Latest gtk-gnutella > > > > - Themable graphical boot > > > > - More KDE/Gnome themes > > > > - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) > > > > - Mozilla 1.1 > > > > - Mplayer > > > > - An advanced control center with more advanced options > > > > - winex and crossover office > > > > - preinstalled flash plugin > > > > - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would > > > > be only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome > > > > - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, > > > > etc.) -Maybe a change of logo? > > > > > > > > BAT > > > > > > No! No soup for you!! > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
A few thing I would change would be in Gnome... When you click a tar.gz file it automagically opens it... no having to setup a program to run when clicked. Also a .gnome-desktop sym-link such as Gnome-desktop in your /home/user/ directory would be nice. I disagree with the Opera thing.. not that it's a bad browser or anything, but it is closed source... maybe an extra's cd filled with all closed source code, but I don't think it should be mixed together. The beauty is knowing I can do whatever I want with a standard 2 disc install and not have to worry about violating patents or getting in trouble. THis is one thing I admire about Debian. These things would make life easier on newbies I believe... I customize my box from scratch so it doesn;t matter to me and I learn alot doing it. Nvidia/flash install helper not a bad idea, but those things are easy to install... Mandrake Icons... yeah, they are not that great.. I like the connective crystal Icon theme, very nice... but I am not to concerned with things like that. > I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My > wishlist is in short: > > - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to > provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 > - Hungarian spell checkers > - Opera 6.x > - Mldonkey > - Latest gtk-gnutella > - Themable graphical boot > - More KDE/Gnome themes > - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) > - Mozilla 1.1 > - Mplayer > - An advanced control center with more advanced options > - winex and crossover office > - preinstalled flash plugin > - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be > only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome > - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) > -Maybe a change of logo? > > BAT Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thursday 13 June 2002 10:37 pm, you wrote: > you see, when i said mandrake needs a graphic redesign, i really > meant mandrake. not KDE, Gnome, or any other product. just the > looks of Mandrakesoft's products. Totally agree. All the icons look too similar... Too much purple CAN be a bad thing. :) Anyhow, who said you need a star in EVERY icon? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thursday 13 June 2002 09:37 pm, Damian G wrote: > > [snip] > > > > Damian, > > > > clearly you haven't seen kde-301 yet, have you? and besides...it's not > > their job to make it "look" prettier. thats what desktop managers like > > KDE, Blackbox, and the rest are for, right? > > .. i used KDE 3.0.1 a while and i dumped it when i found fluxbox ;o) > > but i think you didn't get my point. i'm not saying Mandrake has to > improve KDE themes. that's up to kde-look . > > .. you will have perfect, beautiful icons, transparent menus, > sleek 3D window decorations, gorgeous fonts with antialiasing. > and a horrid "mandrake control center" icon that matches nothing, > looks way too flat, and with opaque colors. http://damz.net/theme1/linux.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
> [snip] > > Damian, > > clearly you haven't seen kde-301 yet, have you? and besides...it's not > their job to make it "look" prettier. thats what desktop managers like > KDE, Blackbox, and the rest are for, right? .. i used KDE 3.0.1 a while and i dumped it when i found fluxbox ;o) but i think you didn't get my point. i'm not saying Mandrake has to improve KDE themes. that's up to kde-look . it's true you can make a beautiful KDE by dwnloading a couple of coloschemes and icon themes and such, but then you will find out what i was talking about. .. you will have perfect, beautiful icons, transparent menus, sleek 3D window decorations, gorgeous fonts with antialiasing. and a horrid "mandrake control center" icon that matches nothing, looks way too flat, and with opaque colors. what i meant by icons, colors, etc, is: the Mandrake control center icons, for example... you see, when i said mandrake needs a graphic redesign, i really meant mandrake. not KDE, Gnome, or any other product. just the looks of Mandrakesoft's products. Damian DISCLAIMER: There's no accounting for taste ;o) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
daRcmaTTeR wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Linux Maniac wrote: > >>I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My >>wishlist is in short: >> >>- a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to >>provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 >>- Hungarian spell checkers >>- Opera 6.x >>- Mldonkey >>- Latest gtk-gnutella >>- Themable graphical boot >>- More KDE/Gnome themes >>- Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) >>- Mozilla 1.1 >>- Mplayer >>- An advanced control center with more advanced options >>- winex and crossover office >>- preinstalled flash plugin >>- Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be >>only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome >>- A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) >>-Maybe a change of logo? >> >>BAT >> > >No! No soup for you!! > Heh heh. This little Oliver would like Sony camcorder drivers LyX 2.0 Wine 1.0 A version of OpenOffice that loads in under a minute Turkish spellchecker ... and so on. But of course these are up to the to the program developers, not Mandrake. On the whole, I think Mandrake do a fairly good job of selecting apps which balance usefulness and stability. I don't want bleeding-edge stuff when I'm installing my system - I'll download those later at my own risk. Similarly, I don't want a load of themes, as a theme can be downloaded quickly, and I don't want them cluttering up my installation. As for flash and winex, these are proprietary or semi-proprietary programs that should be in the Powerpack but not the basic CD. The same would go for proprietary drivers. I don't mind sullying my system with the odd bit of proprietary software (e.g. I use nvidia's drivers) but I agree with the current policy of quarantining them - some people are fanatical about this. One idea I did think was good was a separate games CD. There are now a lot of Linux games around. Most of them are dissappointing, not so much through any fault of the developers, but because these days producing a decent game takes a lot of people and a lot of money (I once wrote a game for the Atari ZX81; OK, it sucked even by ZX81 standards, but the point is that if I'd been a better progammer and spent months rather than days, I could have produced a market leader - that isn't true now*). Put the games on a separate CD, then we can spend installation time on the serious stuff, then browse the games at our leisure. Sir Robin * There are of course honourable exceptions (Nethack Falcon's Eye springs to mind, plus a few nostaligic arcade games, but again the key word is nostalgia). Speaking of which, I'd pay any money for a Linux clone of Elite - not the yucky 16-colour DOS versions you can get from places like Abandonware, but the clean, aesthetic, wireframe graphics BBC Micro version. That's the only game I've played long enough to start hallucinating. > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist sidetrack
Sorry for those who do not speak hungarian Hat ha eddig nem volt nyilvanvalo :-() Udv! fenn vagy a [EMAIL PROTECTED] listan? BAT 2002-06-13, cs keltezéssel Michael ezt írta: > On Thursday 13 June 2002 09:32 am, you wrote: > You mentioned Hungarian spell checkers...magyar vagyok? > > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Linux Maniac wrote: > > > I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My > > > wishlist is in short: > > > > > > - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to > > > provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 > > > - Hungarian spell checkers > > > - Opera 6.x > > > - Mldonkey > > > - Latest gtk-gnutella > > > - Themable graphical boot > > > - More KDE/Gnome themes > > > - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) > > > - Mozilla 1.1 > > > - Mplayer > > > - An advanced control center with more advanced options > > > - winex and crossover office > > > - preinstalled flash plugin > > > - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be > > > only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome > > > - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) > > > -Maybe a change of logo? > > > > > > BAT > > > > No! No soup for you!! > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Damian G wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:31:27 +0200 > "Linux Maniac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My > > wishlist is in short: > > > > - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to > > provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 > > - Hungarian spell checkers > > - Opera 6.x > > - Mldonkey > > - Latest gtk-gnutella > > - Themable graphical boot > > - More KDE/Gnome themes > > - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) > > - Mozilla 1.1 > > - Mplayer > > - An advanced control center with more advanced options > > - winex and crossover office > > - preinstalled flash plugin > > - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be > > only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome > > - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) > > -Maybe a change of logo? > > > > BAT > > > > well, i do think they need a redesign.. ( icons, colors, images > simply look "old" ) but hey, they are busy trying to make > it work, and they normally accomplish that. the day they > can't make it work, they will try to make it look pretty. ( a la M$ ;o) > [snip] Damian, clearly you haven't seen kde-301 yet, have you? and besides...it's not their job to make it "look" prettier. thats what desktop managers like KDE, Blackbox, and the rest are for, right? -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:31:27 +0200 "Linux Maniac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My > wishlist is in short: > > - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to > provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 > - Hungarian spell checkers > - Opera 6.x > - Mldonkey > - Latest gtk-gnutella > - Themable graphical boot > - More KDE/Gnome themes > - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) > - Mozilla 1.1 > - Mplayer > - An advanced control center with more advanced options > - winex and crossover office > - preinstalled flash plugin > - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be > only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome > - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) > -Maybe a change of logo? > > BAT > well, i do think they need a redesign.. ( icons, colors, images simply look "old" ) but hey, they are busy trying to make it work, and they normally accomplish that. the day they can't make it work, they will try to make it look pretty. ( a la M$ ;o) they probably have a very little or no graphics design division..? kde/gnome themes? .. uhmmm nah it would mean valuable CD space that we're better off using for useful apps.. adding collections of themes for every WM or for Xmms is simply a waste of space, since everyone is going to like only one or a few of them and feel the rest shouldn't be there. an advanced control center.. this might be a good idea.. but add options for what? i think it's complete enough... preinstalled flash plugin -- definitely. MPlayer.. would be nice, although it's claimed that a precompiled package will never perform as well as an install from tarball.. personally, i have nothing to ask of them. all of my hardware works, 95% of the programs i need are in the download CD's ( too bad i can't afford the boxed sets ) so.. i'll just let them surprise me. Damian > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thursday 13 June 2002 09:32 am, you wrote: You mentioned Hungarian spell checkers...magyar vagyok? > On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Linux Maniac wrote: > > I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My > > wishlist is in short: > > > > - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to > > provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 > > - Hungarian spell checkers > > - Opera 6.x > > - Mldonkey > > - Latest gtk-gnutella > > - Themable graphical boot > > - More KDE/Gnome themes > > - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) > > - Mozilla 1.1 > > - Mplayer > > - An advanced control center with more advanced options > > - winex and crossover office > > - preinstalled flash plugin > > - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be > > only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome > > - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) > > -Maybe a change of logo? > > > > BAT > > No! No soup for you!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Linux Maniac wrote: > > I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My > wishlist is in short: > > - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to > provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 > - Hungarian spell checkers > - Opera 6.x > - Mldonkey > - Latest gtk-gnutella > - Themable graphical boot > - More KDE/Gnome themes > - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) > - Mozilla 1.1 > - Mplayer > - An advanced control center with more advanced options > - winex and crossover office > - preinstalled flash plugin > - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be > only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome > - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) > -Maybe a change of logo? > > BAT No! No soup for you!! -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My wishlist is in short: - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 - Hungarian spell checkers - Opera 6.x - Mldonkey - Latest gtk-gnutella - Themable graphical boot - More KDE/Gnome themes - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) - Mozilla 1.1 - Mplayer - An advanced control center with more advanced options - winex and crossover office - preinstalled flash plugin - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) -Maybe a change of logo? BAT Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
