Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 05:57 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: > Tuesday 09 December 2003 3:32 pm, Charlie wrote: > > > Any opinion? Any experiences? > > > Pls help me. Thanks. > > > Fajar. >>> whack again > I think something else is the root of the problem. I've > seen people have screaming fits when setting jumpers on Maxtor drives since > the diagrams on their web site suck. Just be certain you slide the jumpers > on the correct pins. > > Charlie Fajar: Another shot in the dark: Maxtor uses a number of different jumper configurations, and the differences between them are not always easy to discern (especially with these tired old eyes). In particular, Maxtor's style A is especially easy to get wrong way around. It has two rows of five pins each, with the fourth pin in the top row missing. It's easy to get top and bottom confused, especially if you install the jumpers before you put the drives in the case. If your drives are not identical, it's possible that they could have different jumpering. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday 09 December 2003 3:32 pm, Charlie wrote: > > Any opinion? Any experiences? > > Pls help me. Thanks. > > Fajar. All 4 of my internal drives, both USB enclosures, and all but 2 of the last 5 systems I assembled, are using Maxtor drives. Most of the "upgrades" that I do for people as well. Of the lot I've only had difficulties with one of the multi drive systems, an older Compaq that I added 2 Maxtors on the same IDE channel. One was installed to replace a dead original disk. The trouble was due to defective drive(s) that were RMAed by Maxtor quickly and without problems. > I don't know where, but have read something that is not good with Maxtor > hard drives. Maybe here also google is your friend? It's worth a shot I suppose but as stated I've never had major difficulties with Maxtor drives. I think something else is the root of the problem. I've seen people have screaming fits when setting jumpers on Maxtor drives since the diagrams on their web site suck. Just be certain you slide the jumpers on the correct pins. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 15:49:42 up 1 day, 4:48, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.13, 0.10 That's always the way when you discover something new; everyone thinks you're crazy. -- Evelyn E. Smith -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/1lNoZqvqlrLPr5YRAmf6AJ4nNpsox/VFCLU0t0y0TQobTePwQwCeKgbu lU2nVANB5jOXeGC1fBwCuMM= =nXKq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:41 am, many eyes noted that Fajar Priyanto wrote: > The errors were: > 1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, BIOS only recognise hdd > #1 2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only hdd #2 is recognised. 3. > If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as slave/cable select ( I know this is > wrong), then only hdd #1 is recognised (as slave). > > This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! I don't have this kind of > trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is maxtor and maxtor really can't be > used together? > > Any opinion? Any experiences? > Pls help me. Thanks. > Fajar. I don't know where, but have read something that is not good with Maxtor hard drives. Maybe here also google is your friend? -- Hopeless fellows - using their heads to look for their heads! Zen saying This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off
Fajar Priyanto wrote: Dear all, I'm almost frustated. I tried to add a primary slave hdd into the system, but it didn't work. The BIOS failed to recognise the drive. Both primary master and slave are maxtors. I've double checked the jumper setting and I'm sure I did it right. http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_installation_guide.pdf The errors were: 1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, BIOS only recognise hdd #1 2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only hdd #2 is recognised. 3. If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as slave/cable select ( I know this is wrong), then only hdd #1 is recognised (as slave). This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! I don't have this kind of trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is maxtor and maxtor really can't be used together? No, your've done something wrong, or rather not completed something, First , you have your drives master/slave on the same ide line, are you sure ? those tiny litle diagrams on the drive can be difficult to interpret sometimes. I generally don't use cable select, but if you do make sure both are cable select. Otherwise each must be correctly set either master or slave. then go into bios and tell it to look for both , they should be autodetected and established as devices with nown parameters , then reboot. The only other concern I can think of is, you haven't got some monster sized HD ? I think mandrake lernels may still have limitations ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off
hey i don't think that's a contact mather. The maxtors harddrives are a litle self exlcludent thats why you can only see one of them at any configuration you use... i recommend you use separated ide cables for each one and you will see them work fine... try this before doing some thing else with the jumpers... Cdrack. --- "N. B. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 07:41, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > > Dear all, > > I'm almost frustated. > > I tried to add a primary slave hdd into the > system, but it didn't > > work. The BIOS failed to recognise the drive. > > Both primary master and slave are maxtors. > > > > I've double checked the jumper setting and I'm > sure I did it right. > > > http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_installation_guide.pdf > > > > The errors were: > > 1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, > BIOS only recognise > > hdd #1 > > 2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only hdd > #2 is recognised. > > 3. If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as > slave/cable select ( I know > > this is wrong), then only hdd #1 is recognised (as > slave). > > > > This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! > I don't have this > > kind of trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is > maxtor and maxtor > > really can't be used together? > > > > Any opinion? Any experiences? > > Pls help me. Thanks. > > Fajar. > > > > Fajar, > > I've had this trouble and the problem turned out to > be that one of the > jumper blocks wasn't making good contact with the > pins. Verify that > there is actually some _metal_ in the plastic > jumper, or better yet, get > some new jumper blocks. > > -- > N. B. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Physics Department, University of New Orleans > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 07:41, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > Dear all, > I'm almost frustated. > I tried to add a primary slave hdd into the system, but it didn't > work. The BIOS failed to recognise the drive. > Both primary master and slave are maxtors. > > I've double checked the jumper setting and I'm sure I did it right. > http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_installation_guide.pdf > > The errors were: > 1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, BIOS only recognise > hdd #1 > 2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only hdd #2 is recognised. > 3. If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as slave/cable select ( I know > this is wrong), then only hdd #1 is recognised (as slave). > > This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! I don't have this > kind of trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is maxtor and maxtor > really can't be used together? > > Any opinion? Any experiences? > Pls help me. Thanks. > Fajar. > Fajar, I've had this trouble and the problem turned out to be that one of the jumper blocks wasn't making good contact with the pins. Verify that there is actually some _metal_ in the plastic jumper, or better yet, get some new jumper blocks. -- N. B. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Physics Department, University of New Orleans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 01:41 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm almost frustated.
> I tried to add a primary slave hdd into the system, but it
> didn't work. The BIOS failed to recognise the drive. Both
> primary master and slave are maxtors.
>
> I've double checked the jumper setting and I'm sure I did it
> right.
> http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_inst
>allation_guide.pdf
>
> The errors were:
> 1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, BIOS only
> recognise hdd #1 2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only
> hdd #2 is recognised. 3. If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as
> slave/cable select ( I know this is wrong), then only hdd #1 is
> recognised (as slave).
>
> This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! I don't have
> this kind of trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is maxtor and
> maxtor really can't be used together?
>
> Any opinion? Any experiences?
Absolutely don't use cable select. Check the jumpers again.
If you're positive they're set correctly, then it could still be
the motherboard, the IDE cable, and position on the cable. It
should always be that master is on the end of the cable.
Mobo connector--slave--master
and make sure pin 1 on the cable is alligned with pin 1 on
the drive(s). It's difficult to get it wrong at the mobo end, but
it can often easily be reversed at the drive connection. Maxtor/
Maxtor works just fine, that's my setup.
--
Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
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[newbie] Maxtor jumper really pissed me off
Dear all, I'm almost frustated. I tried to add a primary slave hdd into the system, but it didn't work. The BIOS failed to recognise the drive. Both primary master and slave are maxtors. I've double checked the jumper setting and I'm sure I did it right. http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_installation_guide.pdf The errors were: 1. If I set hdd #1 as master and hdd #2 as slave, BIOS only recognise hdd #1 2. If I set both hdd as cable select then only hdd #2 is recognised. 3. If I set hdd #1 as slave and hdd #2 as slave/cable select ( I know this is wrong), then only hdd #1 is recognised (as slave). This maxtor jumper settings really pissed me off! I don't have this kind of trouble if I use maxtor and seagate. Is maxtor and maxtor really can't be used together? Any opinion? Any experiences? Pls help me. Thanks. Fajar. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.547 / Virus Database: 340 - Release Date: 12/2/2003
