RE: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-12 Thread Tony S. Sykes

On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 9:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear Friends ,
>
> I have Asus A7n8x-deluxe , 2500 + athlon and Asus FX 5600 vga card. I
> installed Mandrake 9.2 and I also installed latest original mainboard
and
> vga drivers from Nvidia's site. Everything ( even 3com lan adapter )
works
> fine. I see no fail message during boot -up. I also installed some
styles(
> aqua ) from www.kde-look.org and normally there seems no any error.
But my
> system crashes randomly ( stops responding , no mouse and no keyboard
!! )
> . I experienced this while I was scrolling with mouse ( mouse stopped
> suddenly ) . This happened twice in 3 hours. When I was using Win XP I
had
> the same problem ( The system crashed randomly in 3 hours or sometimes
did
> not crash at all several days. I mean This happened randomly . But
after
> installing latest XP drivers for mobo and VGA I did not experience any
> crash since 7 days of hardwork on XP. It seems  It  is OK on XP ,  but
how
> about on Mandrake 9.2 ??. My rams are Kingston. My power supply unit
is 400
> W Zalman.
>
> Is there any possibility of hardware failure if so how can I
understand ??
> And if the reason is somehow Mandrake 9.2 ; I heard always that linux
is
> much more stable , so what is this ?
>
> And what can I do if such crash happens on Mandrake ? should I wait ?
or
> should I  reset the computer ?? since keyboard and mouse does not
respond.
>
> Thanks..
>
> Hertas.
The fact that it crashes in Linux and in Windows immediately indicates a
hardware problem.
Typical causes of crashes are usually memory problems or thermal. You
are 
using good quality components, but if you are over clocking or using 
aggressive memory timings you could be operating in  marginal stability.
Often memory problems are more obvious in Linux than in Windows because
Linux 
uses all the memory  (for disc caching) while in Windows the upper
memory 
areas can be virtually unused.

To find the problem install memtest86 from your Mandrake CDs. It will
put a 
new entry in Lilo.  Boot into memtest86 and run a test for several
hours. 
There should be *no* failures at all.

As for what to do when a crash happens. It is possible the crash has
only 
affected your Window Manager in which case the kernel is still running.
There 
is a page in the Mandrake On line manual which tells you how to do a
graceful 
shutdown using Alt+SysRq+r, Alt+SysRq+s, Alt+SysRq+t, Alt+SysRq+e, but
if it 
is a kernel panic then the only thing to do is power off.

derek
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-Original Message-
From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux
really stable ??

Derek,

Doh! I should have thought of memtest but never crossed my mind, I am
using Corsair value matched pairs so I expect them to have had some
testing done but being value does that mean they didn't make the grade
as fully fledged matched pairs? I will install that tonight when I get
home from work and run over night. As for undoing the freeze I have
tried all the key combinations from the page and nothing happens at all.

Thanks,

Tony.
  

-Original Message-
From: Tony S. Sykes 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux
really stable ??

Well mine has gone belly up again since I did an urpmi --update. Seemed
to load my kernel source again? Now it just stops after lilo. Never got
chance to do the memtest or cpuburn. Not able to get back to it until
Thursday so I will be debugging it then. Any hints/tips much
appreciated.

Thanks,

Tony.
  

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Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??-new findings !!

2003-11-12 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 02:48 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> To all that helped me ,
>
> first of all thanks for your considerations. My new situation is :
>
> 1) I ran memtest-96 3.0 for 7.5 hours ( all night long) and it did not give
> me any error. I think this means memory  is OK.

That seems okay.

> 2) If the heat is problem how can I detect ( my CPu temperature is between
> 49 - 54 C and system temp is 30-30 C ) is this temp. OK ?

This one is trickier - keep in mind that your actual CPU temp can be 10 -20 
degrees C. higher than what is reported.

Did you run cpuburn? If not, install it and run it. There are specific 
versions for whatever flavor CPU you're using. If your system locks up or 
does anything else funny in less than 15 mins, then something is not quite 
right. If it will run for 20-30 mins, you're in pretty good shape. If it will 
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Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??-new findings !!

2003-11-12 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 7:48 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> To all that helped me ,
>
> first of all thanks for your considerations. My new situation is :
>
> 1) I ran memtest-96 3.0 for 7.5 hours ( all night long) and it did not give
> me any error. I think this means memory  is OK.
>
> 2) If the heat is problem how can I detect ( my CPu temperature is between
> 49 - 54 C and system temp is 30-30 C ) is this temp. OK ?
>
> 3) I have Asus FX 5600 vga card. Could it possible that the heat is problem
> with this vga card. ??
>
> 4) I think there is something wrong between nvidia vga driver and Asus mobo
> . Since I experienced almost the same things on XP too.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Have a nice day / night

Memory and thermals seem fine.  (That was while running cpuburn was it?)
The next favourite cause that springs to my mind is the good old IRQ conflict.
Take a look at KDE Control Centre>Information>Interrupts
IRQ lines shared between video and ethernet are a favourite for causing random 
lockups.
Reassigning IRQs depends on your BIOS in some BIOS' you can specifically 
assign IRQ. With others you have to move cards. With some of the really bad 
BIOS' you have to go around disabling unused on board devices.

It might also be worth adding the 'nopentium'  option to the append line of 
your Lilo config  (It hides a bug in the Athlon to do with memory page 
swapping. I thought it was fixed in later Athlons, but you never know)

derek

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Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 1:31 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Hertas,
>
> I think this is an Asus problem as I have the same MB as you and am
> having problems with Mandrake. I have not been able to find the cause
> yet, but W2k is stable (unusually).

I have a A7N8X Deluxe mobo and I have no problems with it under 9.0, 9.1 or 
9.2 once I figured some stuff out.

I use a USB Digital Logitech Wheel mouse, a USB Camera, and a Handspring Visor 
that I gave up on syncing via USB before the solution.

I have had nasty crashes with USB problems. I now don't use Supermount or 
Devfs, and I stopped running the multimedia kernel that was shipped with 9.1. 
The worst system lockup was with the multimedia kernel and moving the mouse. 
I had to push the 'reset' button to get the system to reboot. With Devfs and 
supermount, I had problems syncing my camera and losing my mouse and stuff 
like that. without devfs and supermount, everything works well.

The Visor I can't comment on, as I sync very reliably with a serial port, and 
really don't want to try to break the system now. But under USB the 
connection was really hard to sync, as supermount and devfs were showing the 
port, and pulling it away too fast for most of the syncing software.

Rob
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Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Dale Kosan wrote:

snip...

I have the same board and cpu combo and have had no freezes or lock 
ups. I am using an older gforce2 card and have only installed the 
nvidia driver for it.. I have not found the need to install the rest 
of the nvidia stuff. Maybe you have bad memory?
I'll bet what the original poster was having is a video card driver 
problem.  I had the exact same problems with an Asus A7V with a GeForce 
2 MX running nVidia's drivers.  Couldn't seem to run for any substantial 
period of time without crashing hard enough to lock up everything 
locally (dead mouse and desktop, no terminals).  I could, however, ssh 
in from another computer on my network, kill X and everything would be 
fine again.

What worked around the problem was reverting to the Mandrake drivers for 
the video card.  First time after rebooting it ran for a month without 
any problems.  A power surge and a slow to react UPS caused a reboot 
otherwise I believe it would have run much longer.

Another thing I've read is that if you do choose to use the nVidia 
drivers you much disable the frame buffer.  I believe that will 
eliminate the problem.  This get's rid of bootsplashes but you won't crash.

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Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread Dale Kosan
snip... 

I have the same board and cpu combo and have had no freezes or lock ups. 
I am using an older gforce2 card and have only installed the nvidia 
driver for it.. I have not found the need to install the rest of the 
nvidia stuff. Maybe you have bad memory?


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Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 11:09 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Subject: Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux
> really stable ??
>
> Derek,
>
> Doh! I should have thought of memtest but never crossed my mind, I am
> using Corsair value matched pairs so I expect them to have had some
> testing done but being value does that mean they didn't make the grade
> as fully fledged matched pairs? I will install that tonight when I get
> home from work and run over night. As for undoing the freeze I have
> tried all the key combinations from the page and nothing happens at all.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony.

And after running memtest86 run cpuburn  (see 'man cpuburn' for parameters for 
your CPU)

While running cpuburn use 'sensors' to measure your CPU temperature (assuming 
you have installed lm-sensors ) You should be able to run cpuburn for about 1 
hour without exceeding the rated spec of your CPU.

derek
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RE: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread Tony S. Sykes
On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 9:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear Friends ,
>
> I have Asus A7n8x-deluxe , 2500 + athlon and Asus FX 5600 vga card. I
> installed Mandrake 9.2 and I also installed latest original mainboard
and
> vga drivers from Nvidia's site. Everything ( even 3com lan adapter )
works
> fine. I see no fail message during boot -up. I also installed some
styles(
> aqua ) from www.kde-look.org and normally there seems no any error.
But my
> system crashes randomly ( stops responding , no mouse and no keyboard
!! )
> . I experienced this while I was scrolling with mouse ( mouse stopped
> suddenly ) . This happened twice in 3 hours. When I was using Win XP I
had
> the same problem ( The system crashed randomly in 3 hours or sometimes
did
> not crash at all several days. I mean This happened randomly . But
after
> installing latest XP drivers for mobo and VGA I did not experience any
> crash since 7 days of hardwork on XP. It seems  It  is OK on XP ,  but
how
> about on Mandrake 9.2 ??. My rams are Kingston. My power supply unit
is 400
> W Zalman.
>
> Is there any possibility of hardware failure if so how can I
understand ??
> And if the reason is somehow Mandrake 9.2 ; I heard always that linux
is
> much more stable , so what is this ?
>
> And what can I do if such crash happens on Mandrake ? should I wait ?
or
> should I  reset the computer ?? since keyboard and mouse does not
respond.
>
> Thanks..
>
> Hertas.
The fact that it crashes in Linux and in Windows immediately indicates a
hardware problem.
Typical causes of crashes are usually memory problems or thermal. You
are 
using good quality components, but if you are over clocking or using 
aggressive memory timings you could be operating in  marginal stability.
Often memory problems are more obvious in Linux than in Windows because
Linux 
uses all the memory  (for disc caching) while in Windows the upper
memory 
areas can be virtually unused.

To find the problem install memtest86 from your Mandrake CDs. It will
put a 
new entry in Lilo.  Boot into memtest86 and run a test for several
hours. 
There should be *no* failures at all.

As for what to do when a crash happens. It is possible the crash has
only 
affected your Window Manager in which case the kernel is still running.
There 
is a page in the Mandrake On line manual which tells you how to do a
graceful 
shutdown using Alt+SysRq+r, Alt+SysRq+s, Alt+SysRq+t, Alt+SysRq+e, but
if it 
is a kernel panic then the only thing to do is power off.

derek
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-Original Message-
From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux
really stable ??

Derek,

Doh! I should have thought of memtest but never crossed my mind, I am
using Corsair value matched pairs so I expect them to have had some
testing done but being value does that mean they didn't make the grade
as fully fledged matched pairs? I will install that tonight when I get
home from work and run over night. As for undoing the freeze I have
tried all the key combinations from the page and nothing happens at all.

Thanks,

Tony.
  

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Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 9:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear Friends ,
>
> I have Asus A7n8x-deluxe , 2500 + athlon and Asus FX 5600 vga card. I
> installed Mandrake 9.2 and I also installed latest original mainboard and
> vga drivers from Nvidia's site. Everything ( even 3com lan adapter ) works
> fine. I see no fail message during boot -up. I also installed some styles(
> aqua ) from www.kde-look.org and normally there seems no any error. But my
> system crashes randomly ( stops responding , no mouse and no keyboard !! )
> . I experienced this while I was scrolling with mouse ( mouse stopped
> suddenly ) . This happened twice in 3 hours. When I was using Win XP I had
> the same problem ( The system crashed randomly in 3 hours or sometimes did
> not crash at all several days. I mean This happened randomly . But after
> installing latest XP drivers for mobo and VGA I did not experience any
> crash since 7 days of hardwork on XP. It seems  It  is OK on XP ,  but how
> about on Mandrake 9.2 ??. My rams are Kingston. My power supply unit is 400
> W Zalman.
>
> Is there any possibility of hardware failure if so how can I understand ??
> And if the reason is somehow Mandrake 9.2 ; I heard always that linux is
> much more stable , so what is this ?
>
> And what can I do if such crash happens on Mandrake ? should I wait ? or
> should I  reset the computer ?? since keyboard and mouse does not respond.
>
> Thanks..
>
> Hertas.
The fact that it crashes in Linux and in Windows immediately indicates a 
hardware problem.
Typical causes of crashes are usually memory problems or thermal. You are 
using good quality components, but if you are over clocking or using 
aggressive memory timings you could be operating in  marginal stability. 
Often memory problems are more obvious in Linux than in Windows because Linux 
uses all the memory  (for disc caching) while in Windows the upper memory 
areas can be virtually unused.

To find the problem install memtest86 from your Mandrake CDs. It will put a 
new entry in Lilo.  Boot into memtest86 and run a test for several hours. 
There should be *no* failures at all.

As for what to do when a crash happens. It is possible the crash has only 
affected your Window Manager in which case the kernel is still running. There 
is a page in the Mandrake On line manual which tells you how to do a graceful 
shutdown using Alt+SysRq+r, Alt+SysRq+s, Alt+SysRq+t, Alt+SysRq+e, but if it 
is a kernel panic then the only thing to do is power off.

derek
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RE: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Anton,

My is not from heat as I have had it running for 5 mins doing nothing
and it has just frozen. I have also run it hard for several hours at
100% and it was fine. None of the logs say anything it is just a
complete system freeze which is why I think it is not Linux but
hardware, I have had one or two problems in Windows but those have gone
away after the 4th reinstall.

Tony.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux
really stable ??


guys,
I have a similar problem and it is VERY annoying. I have a suspicion it 
has something to do with the temperature of the cpu - at least in my 
case. A friend put the thermo tape on and heatsink - he's a careless 
bastard. The problem seems to happen every time when encoding video - 
something that really needs cpu grunt. Try transcoding in either windoze
or linux and if you have a similar problem then it will surface. The 
thing is not that linux is less stable, rather that it gets better usage
out of the cpu and works it harder.
I would be interested to know as now even with the fan on full-bore it 
happens for me! Bloody annoying!
Cheers
Anton
ps I was told the cure was new thermo tape - haven't had the time to 
change it but will try in the next couple of weeks...

Tony S. Sykes wrote:

>Hertas,
>
>I think this is an Asus problem as I have the same MB as you and am
>having problems with Mandrake. I have not been able to find the cause
>yet, but W2k is stable (unusually).
>
>Tony.
>
  

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Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread anton
guys,
I have a similar problem and it is VERY annoying. I have a suspicion it 
has something to do with the temperature of the cpu - at least in my 
case. A friend put the thermo tape on and heatsink - he's a careless 
bastard. The problem seems to happen every time when encoding video - 
something that really needs cpu grunt. Try transcoding in either windoze 
or linux and if you have a similar problem then it will surface. The 
thing is not that linux is less stable, rather that it gets better usage 
out of the cpu and works it harder.
I would be interested to know as now even with the fan on full-bore it 
happens for me! Bloody annoying!
Cheers
Anton
ps I was told the cure was new thermo tape - haven't had the time to 
change it but will try in the next couple of weeks...

Tony S. Sykes wrote:

Hertas,

I think this is an Asus problem as I have the same MB as you and am
having problems with Mandrake. I have not been able to find the cause
yet, but W2k is stable (unusually).
Tony.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really
stable ??


Dear Friends ,

I have Asus A7n8x-deluxe , 2500 + athlon and Asus FX 5600 vga card. I
installed Mandrake 9.2 and I also installed latest original mainboard
and
vga drivers from Nvidia's site. Everything ( even 3com lan adapter )
works
fine. I see no fail message during boot -up. I also installed some
styles(
aqua ) from www.kde-look.org and normally there seems no any error. But
my
system crashes randomly ( stops responding , no mouse and no keyboard !!
)
. I experienced this while I was scrolling with mouse ( mouse stopped
suddenly ) . This happened twice in 3 hours. When I was using Win XP I
had
the same problem ( The system crashed randomly in 3 hours or sometimes
did
not crash at all several days. I mean This happened randomly . But after
installing latest XP drivers for mobo and VGA I did not experience any
crash since 7 days of hardwork on XP. It seems  It  is OK on XP ,  but
how
about on Mandrake 9.2 ??. My rams are Kingston. My power supply unit is
400
W Zalman.
Is there any possibility of hardware failure if so how can I understand
??
And if the reason is somehow Mandrake 9.2 ; I heard always that linux is
much more stable , so what is this ?
And what can I do if such crash happens on Mandrake ? should I wait ? or
should I  reset the computer ?? since keyboard and mouse does not
respond.
Thanks..

Hertas.



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RE: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Hertas,

I think this is an Asus problem as I have the same MB as you and am
having problems with Mandrake. I have not been able to find the cause
yet, but W2k is stable (unusually).

Tony.

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Subject: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really
stable ??




Dear Friends ,

I have Asus A7n8x-deluxe , 2500 + athlon and Asus FX 5600 vga card. I
installed Mandrake 9.2 and I also installed latest original mainboard
and
vga drivers from Nvidia's site. Everything ( even 3com lan adapter )
works
fine. I see no fail message during boot -up. I also installed some
styles(
aqua ) from www.kde-look.org and normally there seems no any error. But
my
system crashes randomly ( stops responding , no mouse and no keyboard !!
)
. I experienced this while I was scrolling with mouse ( mouse stopped
suddenly ) . This happened twice in 3 hours. When I was using Win XP I
had
the same problem ( The system crashed randomly in 3 hours or sometimes
did
not crash at all several days. I mean This happened randomly . But after
installing latest XP drivers for mobo and VGA I did not experience any
crash since 7 days of hardwork on XP. It seems  It  is OK on XP ,  but
how
about on Mandrake 9.2 ??. My rams are Kingston. My power supply unit is
400
W Zalman.

Is there any possibility of hardware failure if so how can I understand
??
And if the reason is somehow Mandrake 9.2 ; I heard always that linux is
much more stable , so what is this ?

And what can I do if such crash happens on Mandrake ? should I wait ? or
should I  reset the computer ?? since keyboard and mouse does not
respond.

Thanks..

Hertas.




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[newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread hertas


Dear Friends ,

I have Asus A7n8x-deluxe , 2500 + athlon and Asus FX 5600 vga card. I
installed Mandrake 9.2 and I also installed latest original mainboard and
vga drivers from Nvidia's site. Everything ( even 3com lan adapter ) works
fine. I see no fail message during boot -up. I also installed some styles(
aqua ) from www.kde-look.org and normally there seems no any error. But my
system crashes randomly ( stops responding , no mouse and no keyboard !! )
. I experienced this while I was scrolling with mouse ( mouse stopped
suddenly ) . This happened twice in 3 hours. When I was using Win XP I had
the same problem ( The system crashed randomly in 3 hours or sometimes did
not crash at all several days. I mean This happened randomly . But after
installing latest XP drivers for mobo and VGA I did not experience any
crash since 7 days of hardwork on XP. It seems  It  is OK on XP ,  but how
about on Mandrake 9.2 ??. My rams are Kingston. My power supply unit is 400
W Zalman.

Is there any possibility of hardware failure if so how can I understand ??
And if the reason is somehow Mandrake 9.2 ; I heard always that linux is
much more stable , so what is this ?

And what can I do if such crash happens on Mandrake ? should I wait ? or
should I  reset the computer ?? since keyboard and mouse does not respond.

Thanks..

Hertas.




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