Re: [newbie] New Hobby
On Thursday 18 July 2002 12:29 pm, you wrote: > On Tuesday 16 July 2002 9:04 pm, Carroll Grigsby did speak unto the huddled > > masses, saying: > > Large bodies of water don't seem to make any difference -- most of them > > here are idiots, too. Say "Linux" and they get the panicked look of a > > deer standing in the middle of the road, or else they edge towards a > > phone so that they can dial 911 to report an evil terrorist hacker on the > > premises. > > 10 ways to tell if you or someone you know may be a potential terrorist: > They are shy or antisocial; > They spend a large percentage of their free time on a computer; > They are quick to criticize the government or corporations, often > complaining about their "rights online"; > They are obsessed with privacy; > They have a tendency to play violent computer games; > They frequently illegally copy music, movies, or software; > They listen to aggressive, "alternative" music; > They have an aversion to going outside; > They like to reverse-engineer, or "hack", anything they can for no > substantive reason; > They use software such as Linux, which is designed by and for hackers. > > > don't know about you but i am 8 for 10. :) > > > As for the original post: Could we cut out this emphasis on uptime? It's > > a sensitive subject for us older guys. > > good thing there isn't a command to show _that_ uptime! a new part of the > personals ads: > > SWF seeks SM with personal uptime of over.. my new hobby is putting a different start up screen on any win product that I have to repair from a virus related problem twice. the second time, they get this as the start screen, while I watch them boot it up : "http://home.earthlink.net/~etharp/hobby.png"; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
On Monday 15 July 2002 11:26 am, Alastair Scott wrote: > On Sunday 14 July 2002 2:08 am, magnet wrote: > > If you are ever in West Thurrock, Essex somewhere near the PCWorld > > store [M$World] please take the time to pop in to chat with their > > upgrade assistant and confirm that "no... you cant play Linux on an > > X-Box or PS2, altho you can get a high-score on "uptime". Trust me, > > she will ask if the game "Uptime" can run on an X-box or PS2! *sigh* > > > > All I went in for was to ask if a particular gfx card had linux > > support (I had nothing better to do), and yes, you guessed, no-one in > > the whole store could answer. ;-) > > One for the non-British list members :P > > Out of interest (as some slashdot and kuro5hin items are difficult to > understand otherwise) ... which US computer stores are equivalent to PC > World? > > At PCW employees only know, at maximum, about what's physically there on > the shelves, extended warranties are pushed, you pay the full > manufacturer's price unless someone's feeling generous, attempts at > haggling are met with the Stare of Death and (as noted) PCW is a > Microsoft fiefdom. The only good thing is that they usually have an > excellent stock of Belkin cables, including obscure ones. > > Alastair Alastair: Large bodies of water don't seem to make any difference -- most of them here are idiots, too. Say "Linux" and they get the panicked look of a deer standing in the middle of the road, or else they edge towards a phone so that they can dial 911 to report an evil terrorist hacker on the premises. I did get lucky once at a local store when I was buying the guts of this system -- the clerk was doing graduate work at NCSU in Computer Science, and was a long-time Debian guy. He gave me some good advice, and even sent me a couple of followup e-mails. Sadly, he has soon afterwards completed his degree and moved on to much bigger and better things, so it's back to the blank stare/panic response. As for the original post: Could we cut out this emphasis on uptime? It's a sensitive subject for us older guys. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
On Sunday 14 July 2002 10:49 am, you wrote: > "??What's Linux?" > > Anne Hi Anne! Yep, thats just about the usual reponse I get... -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 14 July 2002 2:08 am, magnet wrote: > If you are ever in West Thurrock, Essex somewhere near the PCWorld > store [M$World] please take the time to pop in to chat with their > upgrade assistant and confirm that "no... you cant play Linux on an > X-Box or PS2, altho you can get a high-score on "uptime". Trust me, > she will ask if the game "Uptime" can run on an X-box or PS2! *sigh* > > All I went in for was to ask if a particular gfx card had linux > support (I had nothing better to do), and yes, you guessed, no-one in > the whole store could answer. ;-) One for the non-British list members :P Out of interest (as some slashdot and kuro5hin items are difficult to understand otherwise) ... which US computer stores are equivalent to PC World? At PCW employees only know, at maximum, about what's physically there on the shelves, extended warranties are pushed, you pay the full manufacturer's price unless someone's feeling generous, attempts at haggling are met with the Stare of Death and (as noted) PCW is a Microsoft fiefdom. The only good thing is that they usually have an excellent stock of Belkin cables, including obscure ones. Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9MumbCv59vFiSU4YRAi+XAJ9hJpicqe34SsgvS511WzS30yX59QCcDPE9 +E0M6Agf5TXdljA7DKqZ+Mc= =qmVD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
On Saturday 13 Jul 2002 10:29 pm, you wrote: > On Saturday 13 July 2002 03:57 pm, you wrote: > > I plan to start a new "hobby" -- whenever I'm at a computer show or > > store, I'm going to go around and ask about different products saying -- > > "does that have a driver for Linux". > > > > I'll try not to become too well known, or the vendors will see "that one > > nut who asks about Linux drivers". (I'll try to buy something every > > once in a while, also.) > > > > Anybody want to take up the same hobby? > > > > Randy Kramer > > Do this all the time every place I go, "yes, thats great - but does it work > under Linux?"... "??What's Linux?" Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
I think the aim is to weaken Microsoft rather than to strengthen GNU/Linux. Microsoft loses over $US125 per XBox sold, and they hope to recoup those costs through the sale of games. Despite this, MS have lost billions on the XBox already. If you can buy an XBox, put GNU/Linux on it and run any software you want, there would be no reason to buy games from MS and they'd lose even more money. XBox sales will probably go up since software can now be run freely on it, which will make things even worse for MS. With MS severely weakened, it will be easier for alternate technologies and companies to mount a decent challenge to MS in _all_ its markets (not just OSs). The XBox is MS's greatest weak spot. Exploiting it is IMHO the best way to topple the giant. On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:35:02 -0600, Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael, > > See http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/ > > Also not that someone will dump $100,000 into the project > each time the porting team completes each of two tasks. > > You'd think there are better place to dump $200,000 into > the Linux community. Odd. > > Miark > > > > Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith: > > > Can you confirm that with a link? > > This is as close as i got:- > > http://www.techtv.com/news/security/story/0,24195,3388837,00.html > > -- > > Michael -- Sridhar Dhanapalan There's no place like ~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
HAHAHA.. I do the same thing and no one has a clue > >> Do this all the time every place I go, "yes, thats great - but does it > work >> under Linux?"... >> >> -- >> > /\ >> > Dark>> > \/ >> >> > > If you are ever in West Thurrock, Essex somewhere near the PCWorld store > [M$World] please take the time to pop in to chat with their upgrade > assistant and confirm that "no... you cant play Linux on an X-Box or > PS2, altho you can get a high-score on "uptime". Trust me, she will ask > if the game "Uptime" can run on an X-box or PS2! *sigh* > > All I went in for was to ask if a particular gfx card had linux support > (I had nothing better to do), and yes, you guessed, no-one in the whole > store could answer. ;-) > > regards and giggles > > magnet Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
Michael, See http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/ Also not that someone will dump $100,000 into the project each time the porting team completes each of two tasks. You'd think there are better place to dump $200,000 into the Linux community. Odd. Miark Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith: > Can you confirm that with a link? > This is as close as i got:- > http://www.techtv.com/news/security/story/0,24195,3388837,00.html > -- > Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:34, Rick Henderson wrote: > On Saturday 13 July 2002 09:08 pm, magnet wrote: > > > Do this all the time every place I go, "yes, thats great - but does it > > > > work > > > > > under Linux?"... > > > > > > -- > > > > /\ > > > > Dark> > > > \/ > > > > > > > > If you are ever in West Thurrock, Essex somewhere near the PCWorld store > > [M$World] please take the time to pop in to chat with their upgrade > > assistant and confirm that "no... you cant play Linux on an X-Box or PS2, > > on tech tv (screen saver), they just confirmed that someone got linux > installed and running on an X-box > Can you confirm that with a link? This is as close as i got:- http://www.techtv.com/news/security/story/0,24195,3388837,00.html > > altho you can get a high-score on "uptime". Trust me, she will ask if the > > game "Uptime" can run on an X-box or PS2! *sigh* > > > > All I went in for was to ask if a particular gfx card had linux support > > (I had nothing better to do), and yes, you guessed, no-one in the whole > > store could answer. ;-) > > > > regards and giggles > > > > magnet -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
Miark wrote: > I have to move in a couple months and was looking for new > work when I came across a job for a network admin. I'm not > really interesting in the job, but the description mentioned > that it was a Windows network that will soon be upgraded "to > Windows 2000 or Windows XP". > > I couldn't resist. I wrote the company back and asked why > they were burdening their company with the expense and > licsensing associated with those products when Linux is > available. > > They didn't respond. Not yet anyway :-) Alright!! Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
On Saturday 13 July 2002 03:57 pm, you wrote: > I plan to start a new "hobby" -- whenever I'm at a computer show or > store, I'm going to go around and ask about different products saying -- > "does that have a driver for Linux". > > I'll try not to become too well known, or the vendors will see "that one > nut who asks about Linux drivers". (I'll try to buy something every > once in a while, also.) > > Anybody want to take up the same hobby? > > Randy Kramer Do this all the time every place I go, "yes, thats great - but does it work under Linux?"... -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Hobby
I do that on occasion too. I have to move in a couple months and was looking for new work when I came across a job for a network admin. I'm not really interesting in the job, but the description mentioned that it was a Windows network that will soon be upgraded "to Windows 2000 or Windows XP". I couldn't resist. I wrote the company back and asked why they were burdening their company with the expense and licsensing associated with those products when Linux is available. They didn't respond. Not yet anyway :-) Miark Randy Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith: > I plan to start a new "hobby" -- whenever I'm at a computer show or > store, I'm going to go around and ask about different products saying -- > "does that have a driver for Linux". > > I'll try not to become too well known, or the vendors will see "that one > nut who asks about Linux drivers". (I'll try to buy something every > once in a while, also.) > > Anybody want to take up the same hobby? > > Randy Kramer > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] New Hobby
I plan to start a new "hobby" -- whenever I'm at a computer show or store, I'm going to go around and ask about different products saying -- "does that have a driver for Linux". I'll try not to become too well known, or the vendors will see "that one nut who asks about Linux drivers". (I'll try to buy something every once in a while, also.) Anybody want to take up the same hobby? Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
