Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
On Thursday 29 November 2001 06:09, you wrote: > Regarding Canon BJC 2100 and BJC 2000 > I actually work for Canon and I use at home a BJC2100 why do you say > never buy that? > It works for that little printing that I do at home fine for over a > year now . > > Christian Posratschnig My main 'problems' with the canon bjc2100 are: very heavily pixelized images (frankly the worst I've seen) and: Extremely slow -i.e. taking about 8 minutes to print an A4 page in color. and: the printer cartridges are fairly expensive and badly insulated. By that I mean that they drie out when not in use after a month or so. In comparison: I have a HP 340 portable printer for my laptop that's only used at an average of once a year. It's still printing on the cartridge I bought 4 or 5 years ago. The B/W quality of the bjc2100 is OK though. On using the GIMP's BJC 2000 printerdriver I get a good speed gain but loose a lot of color quality. Still has the same horrible raster. Shame! The bjc2100 is very cheap (cheaper than a new printerhead for the bjc 2000), it's an extreme case of: 'value for money!' You get what you pay for. IMO the bjc 2000 was the better model. (alas the 2100 power supply doesn't fit on the 2000. Wonder why they did that?) good hunting, Harm Bathoorn. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
Dear Luis and All, I have decided to install the new gimp-print driver that just came out. Should I , also, install the new cups driver first? How would I do this since I already have older versions installed? Also, I tried to check my cups version and it said that cups was a bad command. How do I check my cups version? Luis, did you uninstall all files related to printing first? Could you describe to me exactly what you did to uninstall and the files that you had to uninstall? Would you tell me what files, drivers, etc. you installed and exactly how? I will appreciate being led like a blind newbie because about printing I am a newbie. Things worked before without this much trouble until 8.0 and now 8.1 is not better yet for me. Thanks very much for your help. Sincerely, Marcia On Tuesday 27 November 2001 10:34 pm, you wrote: > > > > Thank you for your suggestions. The lpq command tells me that xpp is > > ready and printing with an active job listed that belongs to me. > > Unfortunately the job is not printing. That is the problem. The strange > > thing is the printing worked for a couple of days although it needed > > tweaking for quality. Then out of the blue it stopped working. Has anyone > > had a similar situation that they were able to fix? Thanks for any help. > > Yes, I've had similar experiences. The only way that I've been able to > recover was to delete all instances of my printer and reinstall the printer > drivers from scratch with PrinterDrake. I gave the printer a new "name" > and used the new name. I know there must be a better way, but when you're > desparate, anything that works... good luck! > > Linus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: >On Wednesday 28 November 2001 22:01, you wrote: > >>Dear Linus, >> >>Thank you for your suggestions. Unfortunately I cannot even get a test page >>to print now. Test pages were printing for awhile but not anymore. It is >>very strange, because everything worked at first then just slowly stopped >>working. I do not know what else to do. I think I would like to use a whole >>different printing system at this point but I do not know how to switch at >>this point. I want to stay away from reinstalling if I can. >> >>Thanks for your help. I will continue to research and maybe will find an >>answer. Thanks very much for your help. >> >>Sincerely, >> > >Maybe, just maybe you should check if the printer hasn't given up on you. >I.e. it's a (defective) hardware problem. These things do happen at the most >unexpected moments! >I remember having a Canon bjc2000 that just quit, the printer head died --so >I bought a replacement -- the next day the powerunit (ac to dc) died:( >I bought a bjc 2100 (never buy that!) an my initial woes were over. > >What I'm saying: Test all your hardware before you start messing with the >software too much. >You don't even want to know about when my little daughter's hamster gnawed >through my mouse connection cable, and the state windblow$3.1 was left in >before I figured that out. As a matter of fact I still keep that 48MB >harddisk around as a souvenir:) > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Regarding Canon BJC 2100 and BJC 2000 I actually work for Canon and I use at home a BJC2100 why do you say never buy that? It works for that little printing that I do at home fine for over a year now . Christian Posratschnig Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
Marcia, hang in there. Printing can be (is) often frustration. I don't pretend to know all of the answers. I'm just a newbie that has struggled through this a couple of times. I just know what worked for me. I have an Epson Stylus 777 (good quality printer, but very expensive cartridges). Here's what I recall about getting my printer to work when it quit (or gave me reams of ASCII garbage that I couldn't turn off). I use CUPS, and have the best luck using the WWW version of QTCUps administration. I deleted all printers from my system with the admin tool. I then reinstalled the CUPS printer driver and gave the printer an altogether new name. You can give the printer any name you want, but I think you should not use a command such as "lpr" as a printer name. Don't know if that's bad, but I didn't do it. I used "Printer", "KDEPrinter", among others. Anyway, I don't know if that was necessary either. That's just what I did. Reinstall the printer driver. You should be able to get a test page at this point. Select the appropriate resolution (mine will almost not work with the default setting of 180 x 180 (or whatever it is) but works MUCH better at 360 x 360). If this works, you should be able to select this new printer from your applications. I don't know about XPP and what it might be doing. I sometimes use XPP and it appears to use the same driver that I installed for CUPS. Maybe someone else can explain that. Good luck! On Wednesday 28 November 2001 03:01 pm, Marcia wrote: > Dear Linus, > > Thank you for your suggestions. Unfortunately I cannot even get a test page > to print now. Test pages were printing for awhile but not anymore. It is > very strange, because everything worked at first then just slowly stopped > working. I do not know what else to do. I think I would like to use a whole > different printing system at this point but I do not know how to switch at > this point. I want to stay away from reinstalling if I can. > > Thanks for your help. I will continue to research and maybe will find an > answer. Thanks very much for your help. > > Sincerely, > > Marcia > > On Wednesday 28 November 2001 01:08 pm, you wrote: > > Marcia, > > > > This would be in the FWIW department. I'm a newbie myself and don't > > pretend to understand the ins and outs of printing. > > > > I have a HP PSC 500 (all-in-one type printer) hung on my parallel port. > > It was configured and printing on LM 8.0. There were 3 drivers available > > for that printer in CUPS. I tested them all and setup a 'lp' and a 'lp1' > > using two of the choices. > > > > In the last month I did a 'clean' installation of LM 8.1, including > > updates of CUPS and CUPS drivers. I ran through the CUPS installation > > process in the installation menu (you can do this from within the > > Mandrake Control Center after the fact as well). I selected the printer > > using my preferred driver and did a test page. Everything was OK in > > terms of the test. > > > > However, from any application (and from a desktop drop) I was getting > > garbage out (symptoms the same as you described in your original note). > > I was stuck until I discovered that the the new version of cups-drivers > > had added another choice to the list. I chose it. All print tests were > > passed and, more importantly, it prints from any application. I have no > > idea why the old drivers no longer work. > > > > So my questions. Can you configure the printer and send it a test page? > > > > If so, consider trying all the available drivers for your printer (or > > similar printers) to see if you can get around the problem. > > > > Terry Smith > > > > Marcia wrote: > > > Dear Linus, > > > > > > Thank you for your advice. It did not work for me although I may not > > > have done everything correctly. Could you send me your exact steps? Did > > > you use cups again or change the spooling? I am still quite the newbie > > > in some areas. I installed lpr because it was not installed before. I > > > wonder if I could just skip cups and use lpr or pdq instead. Would > > > anyone be able to give me the steps for that? > > > > > > How do I change the spooling system from cups to lpr without > > > reinstalling? I really do not want to do that again. I have heard that > > > lpr for spooling has cleared up problems. > > > > > > Does anyone here have Epson Stylus Color that is printing fine in 8.1? > > > If you do could you tell me what you did? > > > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. I have no printing at all and my > > > husband and I both need it desperately. He has not been fond of Linux > > > anyway and I do not want to give him more reasons to not like it. > > > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Marcia > > > > > > On Tuesday 27 November 2001 10:34 pm, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your suggestions. The lpq command tells me that xpp > > > > > is ready and printing with an active job listed that bel
Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 22:01, you wrote: > Dear Linus, > > Thank you for your suggestions. Unfortunately I cannot even get a test page > to print now. Test pages were printing for awhile but not anymore. It is > very strange, because everything worked at first then just slowly stopped > working. I do not know what else to do. I think I would like to use a whole > different printing system at this point but I do not know how to switch at > this point. I want to stay away from reinstalling if I can. > > Thanks for your help. I will continue to research and maybe will find an > answer. Thanks very much for your help. > > Sincerely, Maybe, just maybe you should check if the printer hasn't given up on you. I.e. it's a (defective) hardware problem. These things do happen at the most unexpected moments! I remember having a Canon bjc2000 that just quit, the printer head died --so I bought a replacement -- the next day the powerunit (ac to dc) died:( I bought a bjc 2100 (never buy that!) an my initial woes were over. What I'm saying: Test all your hardware before you start messing with the software too much. You don't even want to know about when my little daughter's hamster gnawed through my mouse connection cable, and the state windblow$3.1 was left in before I figured that out. As a matter of fact I still keep that 48MB harddisk around as a souvenir:) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
Dear Linus, Thank you for your suggestions. Unfortunately I cannot even get a test page to print now. Test pages were printing for awhile but not anymore. It is very strange, because everything worked at first then just slowly stopped working. I do not know what else to do. I think I would like to use a whole different printing system at this point but I do not know how to switch at this point. I want to stay away from reinstalling if I can. Thanks for your help. I will continue to research and maybe will find an answer. Thanks very much for your help. Sincerely, Marcia On Wednesday 28 November 2001 01:08 pm, you wrote: > Marcia, > > This would be in the FWIW department. I'm a newbie myself and don't > pretend to understand the ins and outs of printing. > > I have a HP PSC 500 (all-in-one type printer) hung on my parallel port. > It was configured and printing on LM 8.0. There were 3 drivers available > for that printer in CUPS. I tested them all and setup a 'lp' and a 'lp1' > using two of the choices. > > In the last month I did a 'clean' installation of LM 8.1, including > updates of CUPS and CUPS drivers. I ran through the CUPS installation > process in the installation menu (you can do this from within the > Mandrake Control Center after the fact as well). I selected the printer > using my preferred driver and did a test page. Everything was OK in > terms of the test. > > However, from any application (and from a desktop drop) I was getting > garbage out (symptoms the same as you described in your original note). > I was stuck until I discovered that the the new version of cups-drivers > had added another choice to the list. I chose it. All print tests were > passed and, more importantly, it prints from any application. I have no > idea why the old drivers no longer work. > > So my questions. Can you configure the printer and send it a test page? > > If so, consider trying all the available drivers for your printer (or > similar printers) to see if you can get around the problem. > > Terry Smith > > Marcia wrote: > > Dear Linus, > > > > Thank you for your advice. It did not work for me although I may not have > > done everything correctly. Could you send me your exact steps? Did you > > use cups again or change the spooling? I am still quite the newbie in > > some areas. I installed lpr because it was not installed before. I wonder > > if I could just skip cups and use lpr or pdq instead. Would anyone be > > able to give me the steps for that? > > > > How do I change the spooling system from cups to lpr without > > reinstalling? I really do not want to do that again. I have heard that > > lpr for spooling has cleared up problems. > > > > Does anyone here have Epson Stylus Color that is printing fine in 8.1? If > > you do could you tell me what you did? > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. I have no printing at all and my > > husband and I both need it desperately. He has not been fond of Linux > > anyway and I do not want to give him more reasons to not like it. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Marcia > > > > On Tuesday 27 November 2001 10:34 pm, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your suggestions. The lpq command tells me that xpp is > > > > ready and printing with an active job listed that belongs to me. > > > > Unfortunately the job is not printing. That is the problem. The > > > > strange thing is the printing worked for a couple of days although it > > > > needed tweaking for quality. Then out of the blue it stopped working. > > > > Has anyone had a similar situation that they were able to fix? Thanks > > > > for any help. > > > > > > Yes, I've had similar experiences. The only way that I've been able to > > > recover was to delete all instances of my printer and reinstall the > > > printer drivers from scratch with PrinterDrake. I gave the printer a > > > new "name" and used the new name. I know there must be a better way, > > > but when you're desparate, anything that works... good luck! > > > > > > Linus > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
Marcia, This would be in the FWIW department. I'm a newbie myself and don't pretend to understand the ins and outs of printing. I have a HP PSC 500 (all-in-one type printer) hung on my parallel port. It was configured and printing on LM 8.0. There were 3 drivers available for that printer in CUPS. I tested them all and setup a 'lp' and a 'lp1' using two of the choices. In the last month I did a 'clean' installation of LM 8.1, including updates of CUPS and CUPS drivers. I ran through the CUPS installation process in the installation menu (you can do this from within the Mandrake Control Center after the fact as well). I selected the printer using my preferred driver and did a test page. Everything was OK in terms of the test. However, from any application (and from a desktop drop) I was getting garbage out (symptoms the same as you described in your original note). I was stuck until I discovered that the the new version of cups-drivers had added another choice to the list. I chose it. All print tests were passed and, more importantly, it prints from any application. I have no idea why the old drivers no longer work. So my questions. Can you configure the printer and send it a test page? If so, consider trying all the available drivers for your printer (or similar printers) to see if you can get around the problem. Terry Smith Marcia wrote: > > Dear Linus, > > Thank you for your advice. It did not work for me although I may not have > done everything correctly. Could you send me your exact steps? Did you use > cups again or change the spooling? I am still quite the newbie in some areas. > I installed lpr because it was not installed before. I wonder if I could just > skip cups and use lpr or pdq instead. Would anyone be able to give me the > steps for that? > > How do I change the spooling system from cups to lpr without reinstalling? I > really do not want to do that again. I have heard that lpr for spooling has > cleared up problems. > > Does anyone here have Epson Stylus Color that is printing fine in 8.1? If you > do could you tell me what you did? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. I have no printing at all and my > husband and I both need it desperately. He has not been fond of Linux anyway > and I do not want to give him more reasons to not like it. > > Thanks for any help. > > Sincerely, > > Marcia > > On Tuesday 27 November 2001 10:34 pm, you wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you for your suggestions. The lpq command tells me that xpp is > > > ready and printing with an active job listed that belongs to me. > > > Unfortunately the job is not printing. That is the problem. The strange > > > thing is the printing worked for a couple of days although it needed > > > tweaking for quality. Then out of the blue it stopped working. Has anyone > > > had a similar situation that they were able to fix? Thanks for any help. > > > > Yes, I've had similar experiences. The only way that I've been able to > > recover was to delete all instances of my printer and reinstall the printer > > drivers from scratch with PrinterDrake. I gave the printer a new "name" > > and used the new name. I know there must be a better way, but when you're > > desparate, anything that works... good luck! > > > > Linus > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
> > Thank you for your suggestions. The lpq command tells me that xpp is ready > and printing with an active job listed that belongs to me. Unfortunately > the job is not printing. That is the problem. The strange thing is the > printing worked for a couple of days although it needed tweaking for > quality. Then out of the blue it stopped working. Has anyone had a similar > situation that they were able to fix? Thanks for any help. > > Yes, I've had similar experiences. The only way that I've been able to recover was to delete all instances of my printer and reinstall the printer drivers from scratch with PrinterDrake. I gave the printer a new "name" and used the new name. I know there must be a better way, but when you're desparate, anything that works... good luck! Linus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
Dear Harm, Thank you for your suggestions. The lpq command tells me that xpp is ready and printing with an active job listed that belongs to me. Unfortunately the job is not printing. That is the problem. The strange thing is the printing worked for a couple of days although it needed tweaking for quality. Then out of the blue it stopped working. Has anyone had a similar situation that they were able to fix? Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Marcia On Tuesday 27 November 2001 12:52 pm, you wrote: > On Tuesday 27 November 2001 17:34, you wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > I have recently installed Linux-mandrake 8.1. I have an Epson Stylus > > Color printer which worked fine with cups in 7.2 and after a fix from > > Till worked eventually in 8. I thought it was going to work great in 8.1. > > It worked at first and then decided to not work on its own. It first > > started to spit out paper with colorful code, then blank pages, and now > > it just does not print at all. It just queues up jobs that never go > > anywhere. I went to Mandrake Forum and found out that this is a problem > > for many and there have been no answers provided there. Does anyone have > > any ideas how to fix this? Should I forget cups and try a different > > printing system? I even purchased turboprint which does not work either. > > Any help here will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Marcia > > Take careful note of the print commands in the pop-up windows! > Apparently Mandrake still hobbles along on two horses -- every now and then > when using a new apps (or printing from there the first time) I see the > 'lpr' command again. On replacing it with 'qtcups' usually gives me the > right printer or at least > > Check your spool with the "lpq' command on a console. > > Good luck, > Harm Bathoorn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 17:34, you wrote: > Dear All, > > I have recently installed Linux-mandrake 8.1. I have an Epson Stylus Color > printer which worked fine with cups in 7.2 and after a fix from Till worked > eventually in 8. I thought it was going to work great in 8.1. It worked at > first and then decided to not work on its own. It first started to spit out > paper with colorful code, then blank pages, and now it just does not print > at all. It just queues up jobs that never go anywhere. I went to Mandrake > Forum and found out that this is a problem for many and there have been no > answers provided there. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this? Should > I forget cups and try a different printing system? I even purchased > turboprint which does not work either. Any help here will be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks. > > Marcia Take careful note of the print commands in the pop-up windows! Apparently Mandrake still hobbles along on two horses -- every now and then when using a new apps (or printing from there the first time) I see the 'lpr' command again. On replacing it with 'qtcups' usually gives me the right printer or at least Check your spool with the "lpq' command on a console. Good luck, Harm Bathoorn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] No printing in 8.1 now
Dear All, I have recently installed Linux-mandrake 8.1. I have an Epson Stylus Color printer which worked fine with cups in 7.2 and after a fix from Till worked eventually in 8. I thought it was going to work great in 8.1. It worked at first and then decided to not work on its own. It first started to spit out paper with colorful code, then blank pages, and now it just does not print at all. It just queues up jobs that never go anywhere. I went to Mandrake Forum and found out that this is a problem for many and there have been no answers provided there. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this? Should I forget cups and try a different printing system? I even purchased turboprint which does not work either. Any help here will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
