Re: [newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 12:00, Miark wrote: > On 10 Jun 2003 18:29:04 -0400 > ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > TigerDirect is such a bunch of liars to start with, I don't know which > > part to think is a lie Tiger Direct would be under investigation by > > the Better Business Bureau, if there was a Better Business Bureau for > > Miami-Dade County (where they are headquartered), but it was also so > > crooked the National Better Business Bureau Closed them down too. I > > would not believe tiger direct if they told me the sky was blue, without > > 2 or 3 more opinions. Just my opinion. > > I share that opinion. Like a dumb ass, I gave then a lot of business for > about a year. I finally realized that despite decent prices, just dealing > with them was an _excruciating_ experience. I stopped even looking at their > site or catalogs about three years ago. > > Miark me too, and heck in those three years, they could have had a real turn around and have gotten honest,,, but I doubt it, and it will take someone else's money and opinion to change my mind, cause they ain't getting no more of mine > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
On 12 Jun 2003 02:14:52 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 01:57, Miark wrote: > > On 11 Jun 2003 06:36:51 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > it's too bad they won't just "start from scratch" and > > > create something clean, unbloated, productive and useful instead of > > > sucking in the entire marketplace with bloat, unwanted and unnecessary > > > features, eye-candy and forced usage. > > > > Too bad? How is that too bad :-) > > > > Miark > > Because they COULD create a really nice product - giving linux REAL > competition - but that won't happen. Having two really great OS's makes > for great competition, and brings out the "dark horses"... Not when one of the OSes is Windows. If M$ started doing good work, it would propel their monopoly indefinitely. Ya, we'd have great work and less reason to look elsewhere, but it really would eliminate any competition. The only way to have competition is to first eliminate the monopoly, and for that reason, M$'s sloth and incompetence is good thing because they're working to eliminate themselves. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 01:57, Miark wrote: > On 11 Jun 2003 06:36:51 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > it's too bad they won't just "start from scratch" and > > create something clean, unbloated, productive and useful instead of > > sucking in the entire marketplace with bloat, unwanted and unnecessary > > features, eye-candy and forced usage. > > Too bad? How is that too bad :-) > > Miark Because they COULD create a really nice product - giving linux REAL competition - but that won't happen. Having two really great OS's makes for great competition, and brings out the "dark horses" - pushing technology to become better and OS's to become better - but I doubt that game will happen. Microsoft is too "stuck in a rut" - and we all know what a "rut" really is - it's a grave with both ends knocked out. Microsoft is too fat'n'happy to create something for a change - although they're currently scared of loosing marketshare, it'll result only in lower prices, retrenchments in Microsoft departments and more advertising. -- Thu Jun 12 02:10:01 EST 2003 02:10:01 up 2:08, 3 users, load average: 0.12, 0.23, 0.17 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * America works less, when you say "Union Yes!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
On 10 Jun 2003 18:29:04 -0400 ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TigerDirect is such a bunch of liars to start with, I don't know which > part to think is a lie Tiger Direct would be under investigation by > the Better Business Bureau, if there was a Better Business Bureau for > Miami-Dade County (where they are headquartered), but it was also so > crooked the National Better Business Bureau Closed them down too. I > would not believe tiger direct if they told me the sky was blue, without > 2 or 3 more opinions. Just my opinion. I share that opinion. Like a dumb ass, I gave then a lot of business for about a year. I finally realized that despite decent prices, just dealing with them was an _excruciating_ experience. I stopped even looking at their site or catalogs about three years ago. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
On 11 Jun 2003 06:36:51 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it's too bad they won't just "start from scratch" and > create something clean, unbloated, productive and useful instead of > sucking in the entire marketplace with bloat, unwanted and unnecessary > features, eye-candy and forced usage. Too bad? How is that too bad :-) Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 08:20, Todd Slater wrote: > I read today that M$ is buying RAV (anti-virus), a Romanian company I > think. The article made reference to this being part of their "secure" > platform initiative. Are all of these writers idiots? "Heh, we'll bundle > in some AV software and call it secure!" > > Todd Ha! That's funny - well, at least they're choosing an antivirus program that actually works...and works well...(McAfee and Symantec don't care if they work - they care about selling product not fighting bugs). It's sad to think that they're just going to bundle bandages in their efforts to create a secure system - and it's not really "creating" is it? They're like "The Borg" - they assimilate programs into their OS and call it their own "feature" - aka Adaptec/Roxio? IF Microsoft were smart (duh) they'd just scrap all their code, start FRESH with a CLEAN SLATE and write and OS from the ground up that works from the beginning instead of constantly needing bandages and patches. -- Wed Jun 11 08:55:01 EST 2003 08:55:01 up 3 days, 18:46, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.15, 0.20 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * (CBG attends the Movementarians mass marriage ceremony) CBG:(to new bride) So, do you enjoy comic books? The Joy Of Sect (Episode 5F23) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 13:36, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 01:16, todd wrote: > > "Microsoft is giving TigerDirect unheard of discounts on Microsoft > > software > > The ONLY way Microsoft is going to be able to counter what's already > started rolling is to secure their platform, not market. A shitty > product is still a shitty product now matter how you market it. For all > the cash they've been spending on marketing, they're loosing ground in > the "real world"; it's too bad they won't just "start from scratch" and > create something clean, unbloated, productive and useful instead of > sucking in the entire marketplace with bloat, unwanted and unnecessary > features, eye-candy and forced usage. --but if they did it would work a lot like linux (just not as good) Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 16:04, JoeHill wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:16:13 -0400 > todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > Additionally, Microsoft > > is paying TigerDirect to collect market research on LindowsOS computer > > purchasers, to figure out other ways to counter this threat to their > > monopoly..." > > Isn't that illegal? ROFL, I kill myself... TigerDirect is such a bunch of liars to start with, I don't know which part to think is a lie Tiger Direct would be under investigation by the Better Business Bureau, if there was a Better Business Bureau for Miami-Dade County (where they are headquartered), but it was also so crooked the National Better Business Bureau Closed them down too. I would not believe tiger direct if they told me the sky was blue, without 2 or 3 more opinions. Just my opinion. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 06:36:51 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 01:16, todd wrote: > > "Microsoft is giving TigerDirect unheard of discounts on Microsoft > > software > > The ONLY way Microsoft is going to be able to counter what's already > started rolling is to secure their platform, not market. A shitty > product is still a shitty product now matter how you market it. For > all the cash they've been spending on marketing, they're loosing > ground in the "real world"; it's too bad they won't just "start from > scratch" and create something clean, unbloated, productive and useful > instead of sucking in the entire marketplace with bloat, unwanted and > unnecessary features, eye-candy and forced usage. > I read today that M$ is buying RAV (anti-virus), a Romanian company I think. The article made reference to this being part of their "secure" platform initiative. Are all of these writers idiots? "Heh, we'll bundle in some AV software and call it secure!" Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:16:13 -0400 todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Additionally, Microsoft > is paying TigerDirect to collect market research on LindowsOS computer > purchasers, to figure out other ways to counter this threat to their > monopoly..." Isn't that illegal? ROFL, I kill myself... -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 16:04:00 up 7 days, 14:07, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT - M$ dumping XP to combat Lindows?
"Microsoft is giving TigerDirect unheard of discounts on Microsoft software, allowing them to sell Microsoft Windows XP for just $50 to all of their customers who have purchased LindowsOS computers. TigerDirect is paying less for some copies of Microsoft Windows XP than even the largest Microsoft customers like Dell. Besides radically discounting their software, Microsoft is agreeing to spend a lot of marketing dollars to advertise their products through TigerDirect and more specifically to past LindowsOS computer buyers. Additionally, Microsoft is paying TigerDirect to collect market research on LindowsOS computer purchasers, to figure out other ways to counter this threat to their monopoly..." Follow the link to the column by the Lindows founder. http://arstechnica.com/archive/news/1055186096.html Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
