Re: [newbie] Packages Installer
On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 13:22:03 -0400 Matt Warden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'update-menus -v -n' (without the quotes) as root and user > > Out of curiosity, what is the -n switch for? I did not see anything in > the manpage. While trying it out, it seemed to create some different > output to stdout, but that could have been because I was trying it out > as a non-root user. Not sure other than that it appears to exit cleanly. I can't remember where I got the -n been using for what seems like years :-)) Cheers John (NZ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Packages Installer
> 'update-menus -v -n' (without the quotes) as root and user Out of curiosity, what is the -n switch for? I did not see anything in the manpage. While trying it out, it seemed to create some different output to stdout, but that could have been because I was trying it out as a non-root user. Thanks, -- Matt Warden Berry Neuroscience Lab Department of Psychology Miami University This email proudly and graciously contributes to entropy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Packages Installer
On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 18:19, eric jackson wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "EE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:32 AM > Subject: [newbie] Packages Installer > > > > Guys/Gals > > > > I Installed freetype-1.3.1-20mdk.i586.rpm* I got few error but later I > > lost my menu System|Configuration|Packages|Install Package > > > > Any idea > > When this happened to me updating the menus didn't help. Most of the > Packages stuff was no longer installed. Does urpmi still work? If so try to > install rpmdrake. It will offer to install several other packages or at > least it did when I lost my menus. > > Eric Jackson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yes update the menus did not work. I tried it before posting but urpmi rpmdrake did it. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Packages Installer
- Original Message - From: "EE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:32 AM Subject: [newbie] Packages Installer > Guys/Gals > > I Installed freetype-1.3.1-20mdk.i586.rpm* I got few error but later I > lost my menu System|Configuration|Packages|Install Package > > Any idea When this happened to me updating the menus didn't help. Most of the Packages stuff was no longer installed. Does urpmi still work? If so try to install rpmdrake. It will offer to install several other packages or at least it did when I lost my menus. Eric Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Packages Installer
On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 17:32:28 +0300 EE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys/Gals > > I Installed freetype-1.3.1-20mdk.i586.rpm* I got few error but later I > lost my menu System|Configuration|Packages|Install Package > > Any idea 'update-menus -v -n' (without the quotes) as root and user Cheers John nz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Packages Installer
Guys/Gals I Installed freetype-1.3.1-20mdk.i586.rpm* I got few error but later I lost my menu System|Configuration|Packages|Install Package Any idea Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] packages
>tarball. Early on the biggest problem I sometimes had with .rpm's was >trying to find out just where the script was putting the actual >executable. > Mark, 'rpm -ql ' comes to mind--it tells you what files are in a package and where they are. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems & Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] packages
>If you want a DIY approach a good place to start is kpackage. >This will list all the rpms installed on your system divided into cats. >When you select an rpm a short describe is given as to what the app does, >any depends it has and what other pkgs it provides. Another starting place would be to do an 'rpm -qi ' on whatever package(s) you are interested in. If you want info regarding all packages, you can do 'rpm -qai > all.txt'. -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems & Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] packages
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:59:47 +0100 Stojs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there anywhere I can find help on each package in mandrake 8.1? > > Here you advice people to use different packages that I know nothing > about and sometimes even understand nothing of. It´s a bit embarrasing > to get a good answer to a question and immediately come back saying "I > installed what you suggested, what is it and how do I configure it?". > With the range and scope of the pkgs avaiable for linux and the names given to each if can be hard for Anyone to know what each is or does. If you want a DIY approach a good place to start is kpackage. This will list all the rpms installed on your system divided into cats. When you select an rpm a short describe is given as to what the app does, any depends it has and what other pkgs it provides. For more in depth explains, many apps come with either manuals and/or help files. To access these open a terminal and enter: man 'package name' or 'package name' --help 2 examples: man samba This will display the samba manual : rpm --help This will display the rpm help file There are of course other resources that can be used, this list, google-linux, a 'good' linux refernce book (2 or 3 if you're like me). Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] packages
Stojs wrote: > > Is there anywhere I can find help on each package in mandrake 8.1? > > Here you advice people to use different packages that I know nothing > about and sometimes even understand nothing of. It´s a bit embarrasing > to get a good answer to a question and immediately come back saying "I > installed what you suggested, what is it and how do I configure it?". > Stojs, Often times with .rpm packages there isn't supposed to be alot or any configuration happening after the package is installed. At least not to the immediate stuff like would be need to be done when compiling a tarball. Early on the biggest problem I sometimes had with .rpm's was trying to find out just where the script was putting the actual executable. What specifically are you refering to? Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] packages how to open?
how do you open after i download on windows I reboot to Linux and then go to /mount/windowsand then transfer the file to Linux then cannot open the package Is there something similar to .exe in windowz?
Re: [newbie] Packages
Piero, Well said all around. I couldn't agree more. You are right about some place to find out what all those terms and programs are, it would be nice to have something like that all in one neat package somewhere. In the meantime thought, we really already have one... it is online through any search engine you choose. Just type in the term or name and search away you will get plenty to hash over, at sites or in messages. I have found the Google search especially handy for most things Linux. It is cool isn't it when you find you don't have to go any further than your own backyard (hard drive or CD) for some thing you want...saves alot of download time and the packages are made for your Mandrake to boot. Bambi Piero wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:02:50 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that > > >gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to > > >know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by > > >taking everything that is offered in the install. > > >This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux. > > > > > >Thanks > > >Robert F. Trettel > > > > Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:42:19 > > > > I had the same Question Robert, all those strange names are quite > > meaningless unless you already have experience...I found that the > > descriptions in the KDE package tool are very helpful.. > > > > Click on a package name and a description shows up in the > > right hand panel...Providing you have a linux loaded of courseIf > > you have the space though ,load it all and then you can search through > > it and learn about it for next installation...or any thing that you > > don't need you can trim out... > > > > If you don't load all the development material you cannot > > manage to make and install some other RPM downloaded later. or do > > compiling and the like. > > > > the site http://mandrakeuser.org/ has been big time helpful to me. > > Olly P > > Biloxi > > I have also been disconcerted, at first, by the overwhelming amount of > packages I found in the Linux distributions (RH first, then Suse and finally > Mandrake). I feared that it would invade my hd and that I would never be in > control of such a number of programs. It would take a whole live just to > understand what they were meant for, and in a little time, much shorter than > the amount of time I'd need in order to be back in command of my computer, new > versions would become available... A maelstrom of programs was going to drag me > away... > > Things went rather differntly, though, and I would like to reassure both Robert > and Olly, and all those who feel the same disconfort with packages. > First, through utilities such as kpackages or rpmdrake, one can explore the > packages installed on ones machine, and have a little explanation of what they > are supposed to do. > > Secondly, as time goes by, you get invlved in properly installing licq, or > configuring imwheel, or tying to understand whether wine is able to execute > something alse as sol.exe. And you just forget the packages problem. Better: as > Bambi says, you feel lucky when you discover that something you 'd like to test > is already installed on your computer. > > As for pruning away the pakages that you do not need... Well, just think that > you will do it one day. The idea that it is not impossible to do it (better, > that through kpackages it would be very easy to do it) is very reassuring: > than, you don't really need to do it . Just think taht you can. It's largely > enough. > > Something would be very useful, though: a dictionary, or encyclopedia on line, > that would allow one to understand such expression as "gui", or "api", or what > a program like "Doom" is meant to do... But may-be it exists. Has anybody got > any idea about this? > > -- > Piero > -- > Dr Piero Caracciolo > Ecole Normale Superieure > > ...humani nihil ...
Re: [newbie] Packages
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:02:50 -0400, you wrote: > > >I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that > >gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to > >know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by > >taking everything that is offered in the install. > >This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux. > > > >Thanks > >Robert F. Trettel > > Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:42:19 > > I had the same Question Robert, all those strange names are quite > meaningless unless you already have experience...I found that the > descriptions in the KDE package tool are very helpful.. > > Click on a package name and a description shows up in the > right hand panel...Providing you have a linux loaded of courseIf > you have the space though ,load it all and then you can search through > it and learn about it for next installation...or any thing that you > don't need you can trim out... > > If you don't load all the development material you cannot > manage to make and install some other RPM downloaded later. or do > compiling and the like. > > the site http://mandrakeuser.org/ has been big time helpful to me. > Olly P > Biloxi I have also been disconcerted, at first, by the overwhelming amount of packages I found in the Linux distributions (RH first, then Suse and finally Mandrake). I feared that it would invade my hd and that I would never be in control of such a number of programs. It would take a whole live just to understand what they were meant for, and in a little time, much shorter than the amount of time I'd need in order to be back in command of my computer, new versions would become available... A maelstrom of programs was going to drag me away... Things went rather differntly, though, and I would like to reassure both Robert and Olly, and all those who feel the same disconfort with packages. First, through utilities such as kpackages or rpmdrake, one can explore the packages installed on ones machine, and have a little explanation of what they are supposed to do. Secondly, as time goes by, you get invlved in properly installing licq, or configuring imwheel, or tying to understand whether wine is able to execute something alse as sol.exe. And you just forget the packages problem. Better: as Bambi says, you feel lucky when you discover that something you 'd like to test is already installed on your computer. As for pruning away the pakages that you do not need... Well, just think that you will do it one day. The idea that it is not impossible to do it (better, that through kpackages it would be very easy to do it) is very reassuring: than, you don't really need to do it . Just think taht you can. It's largely enough. Something would be very useful, though: a dictionary, or encyclopedia on line, that would allow one to understand such expression as "gui", or "api", or what a program like "Doom" is meant to do... But may-be it exists. Has anybody got any idea about this? -- Piero -- Dr Piero Caracciolo Ecole Normale Superieure ...humani nihil ...
Re: [newbie] Packages
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:02:50 -0400, you wrote: >I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that >gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to >know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by >taking everything that is offered in the install. >This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux. > >Thanks >Robert F. Trettel Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:42:19 I had the same Question Robert, all those strange names are quite meaningless unless you already have experience...I found that the descriptions in the KDE package tool are very helpful.. Click on a package name and a description shows up in the right hand panel...Providing you have a linux loaded of courseIf you have the space though ,load it all and then you can search through it and learn about it for next installation...or any thing that you don't need you can trim out... If you don't load all the development material you cannot manage to make and install some other RPM downloaded later. or do compiling and the like. the site http://mandrakeuser.org/ has been big time helpful to me. Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Packages
frank wrote: > > i share your concern over the number of packages > that seem to never be used...linux grew as an OS > for programmers, system administrators, etc., and > the major distributions include masses of "stuff" > that holds no interest for those of us who do not > live lives focused on our monitors...browsing > through the package manager (a quicker tour, than > rpm commands at the console) reminds one of the > apartments of older women who've never learned to > discard what is not in use...knick-knacks > and mementos everywhere, all of great import to > the occupant, but of little use or interest to > others...does one really need a half dozen tea > sets sitting on various end tables, or a dozen > different mail clients... > > but what to discard??...i, too, would like to > trim the size of my mandrake system, but am > often unsure of which packages are essential to > its operation...a web site that detailed each > package would help...even better would be a > program within mandrake, where i could sort > through a detailed list of all packages, have all > dependency problems automatically resolved, and > then delete in mass all those i found > un-neededi'd prefer being able to do such a > mass deletion after mandrake is up and running, > as that would allow browsing the programs, rather > than depending on the name and short description > given at installation time...ideally, i'd be able > to save "my list" of packages to floppy, and use > it at installation time if i re-install the whole > system on this or another computer... > > perhaps this is all possible now...perhaps some > package in mandrake accomplishes just what i've > suggested...if so, i'd like to be pointed toward > it... > > frank > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > Hi,All > > > > I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that > > gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to > > know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by > > taking everything that is offered in the install. > > This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux. > > > > Thanks > > Robert F. Trettel > -- ah heck... jest get one o'dem der big assed hard drives and install it all
Re: [newbie] Packages
sorry, frank...I really disagree with you, big time. the packages are a wonderful bundle of joy to me, those I don't use, I delete. If it is used by something else, it tells you. If you aren't sure, you leave it alone till you do. There have been many times when I found some interesting tidbit on the web, some cool program, and when I looked, and I do look, many times it is installed and all I need to do is query it to find the executable and create a desktop.lnk and go. Just a newbie's opinion, Bambi frank wrote: > i share your concern over the number of packages > that seem to never be used...linux grew as an OS > for programmers, system administrators, etc., and > the major distributions include masses of "stuff" > that holds no interest for those of us who do not > live lives focused on our monitors...browsing > through the package manager (a quicker tour, than > rpm commands at the console) reminds one of the > apartments of older women who've never learned to > discard what is not in use...knick-knacks > and mementos everywhere, all of great import to > the occupant, but of little use or interest to > others...does one really need a half dozen tea > sets sitting on various end tables, or a dozen > different mail clients... > > but what to discard??...i, too, would like to > trim the size of my mandrake system, but am > often unsure of which packages are essential to > its operation...a web site that detailed each > package would help...even better would be a > program within mandrake, where i could sort > through a detailed list of all packages, have all > dependency problems automatically resolved, and > then delete in mass all those i found > un-neededi'd prefer being able to do such a > mass deletion after mandrake is up and running, > as that would allow browsing the programs, rather > than depending on the name and short description > given at installation time...ideally, i'd be able > to save "my list" of packages to floppy, and use > it at installation time if i re-install the whole > system on this or another computer... > > perhaps this is all possible now...perhaps some > package in mandrake accomplishes just what i've > suggested...if so, i'd like to be pointed toward > it... > > frank > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > Hi,All > > > > I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that > > gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to > > know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by > > taking everything that is offered in the install. > > This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux. > > > > Thanks > > Robert F. Trettel > --
Re: [newbie] Packages
i share your concern over the number of packages that seem to never be used...linux grew as an OS for programmers, system administrators, etc., and the major distributions include masses of "stuff" that holds no interest for those of us who do not live lives focused on our monitors...browsing through the package manager (a quicker tour, than rpm commands at the console) reminds one of the apartments of older women who've never learned to discard what is not in use...knick-knacks and mementos everywhere, all of great import to the occupant, but of little use or interest to others...does one really need a half dozen tea sets sitting on various end tables, or a dozen different mail clients... but what to discard??...i, too, would like to trim the size of my mandrake system, but am often unsure of which packages are essential to its operation...a web site that detailed each package would help...even better would be a program within mandrake, where i could sort through a detailed list of all packages, have all dependency problems automatically resolved, and then delete in mass all those i found un-neededi'd prefer being able to do such a mass deletion after mandrake is up and running, as that would allow browsing the programs, rather than depending on the name and short description given at installation time...ideally, i'd be able to save "my list" of packages to floppy, and use it at installation time if i re-install the whole system on this or another computer... perhaps this is all possible now...perhaps some package in mandrake accomplishes just what i've suggested...if so, i'd like to be pointed toward it... frank On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote: > Hi,All > > I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that > gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to > know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by > taking everything that is offered in the install. > This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux. > > Thanks > Robert F. Trettel --
Re: [newbie] Packages
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Robert F. Trettel wrote: > Hi,All > > I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that > gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to > know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by > taking everything that is offered in the install. > This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux. > > Thanks > Robert F. Trettel You might want to learn a bit about the use of the rpm command : To list all the packages installed in your comp, use : rpm -qa To have infos about an installed package, use : rpm -qi To have infos about an uninstalled package, use : rpm -qpi To have a list of the files contained in a package, replace the i by a l. For A LOT more infos about rpm, read "maximum rpm" available at http://www.rpm.org. HTH Flupke -- << There's no place like ~ ! >>
[newbie] Packages
Hi,All I have a question on packages that are on Linux. Is there a web site that gives details of what the package is and etc?? I would like to be able to know what to install and what I don't need. I think I am wasting space by taking everything that is offered in the install. This way I will know what is what as to everyday use of Linux. Thanks Robert F. Trettel
Re: [newbie] packages
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: > "Karen M. Heiby" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I uninstalled Mandrake Update because of the problem I had. I'd like to > > reinstall it--can someone give me the name of the package on my first CD? > > Strangely enough, you'll find it as MandrakeUpdate :) I looked for it on my CD and couldn't find it--after looking in the RPMS directory for ages! I found it on the Mandrake website, though, thanks anyway. Karen > > -- > Steve Philp > Network Administrator > Advance Packaging Corporation > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] packages
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: > "Karen M. Heiby" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I uninstalled Mandrake Update because of the problem I had. I'd like to > > reinstall it--can someone give me the name of the package on my first CD? > > > > Here's another question: > > > > When I use Kpackage to find a file, I get two errors: > > > > Kprocess error: Can't start dpkg > > > > Kprocess error: Cann't start kiss > > > > Thanks, > > Karen > > If you wait a few seconds a box asking for root password will come up. > After putting it in the blank space and clicking the appropriate button > kpackage will install the RPM. Confused me the first few times also, but > that's how it works > -- I'm sorry, I'm not sure my question is understood. I can already get into kpackage. I am already to the point where I am in there with root privileges. When I click Find File and type in a file I want it to find, that's when I get the error. Was this what you are referring to? Thanks, Karen > James Mellema, CRNA MA > - > The idea that an arbitrary naive human should be able to properly use a > given tool without training or understanding is even more wrong for > computing than it is for other tools (e.g. automobiles, airplanes, guns > or power saws). > (Thanks to Mike Marion - Unix SysAdmin/Engineer, Qualcomm Inc.)
Re: [newbie] packages
"Karen M. Heiby" wrote: > > Hi, > > I uninstalled Mandrake Update because of the problem I had. I'd like to > reinstall it--can someone give me the name of the package on my first CD? Strangely enough, you'll find it as MandrakeUpdate :) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] packages
Hi, I uninstalled Mandrake Update because of the problem I had. I'd like to reinstall it--can someone give me the name of the package on my first CD? Here's another question: When I use Kpackage to find a file, I get two errors: Kprocess error: Can't start dpkg Kprocess error: Cann't start kiss Thanks, Karen
