Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread JoeHill
On 03 Jun 2003 22:54:22 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> 
> If your file system is foobar'ed that bad, and you've done and fsck on
> that partition and it hasn't fixed any of the inodes or recovered your
> data and made things "happy" again, you might consider backing up your
> /home directory and doing a format/reinstallation. Hate to say it.
> Have you tried doing a boot up with the installation CD and doing and
> fsck on the / partition yet? Cuz that's next on the menu hometeam...

actually, everything seems to work fine now so far. make works.

I'll keep my fingers crossed. I hate the reinstall route unless it's
really necessary, like I can't boot no matter what, you know what i
mean?

we shall see.

thanks mastah Kuhn...

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Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:28, JoeHill wrote:
> On 03 Jun 2003 21:59:15 +1000
> Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > "make" is a strange thing to have lost - so it would seem that either
> > the system path is mucked up or your .bash_profile is mucked up; have
> > you tried all of this as either root or a different user?
> 
> no mate, it's *gone*, there was no /usr/bin/make. I did a rpm -e
> --nodeps then rpm'd it back in and all is fine. I ain't never goin thru
> that skinny elephant thing again, i'll just hard boot if I have to... :D

If your file system is foobar'ed that bad, and you've done and fsck on
that partition and it hasn't fixed any of the inodes or recovered your
data and made things "happy" again, you might consider backing up your
/home directory and doing a format/reinstallation. Hate to say it. Have
you tried doing a boot up with the installation CD and doing and fsck on
the / partition yet? Cuz that's next on the menu hometeam...

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Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread JoeHill
On 03 Jun 2003 21:59:15 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> "make" is a strange thing to have lost - so it would seem that either
> the system path is mucked up or your .bash_profile is mucked up; have
> you tried all of this as either root or a different user?

no mate, it's *gone*, there was no /usr/bin/make. I did a rpm -e
--nodeps then rpm'd it back in and all is fine. I ain't never goin thru
that skinny elephant thing again, i'll just hard boot if I have to... :D

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Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread eric huff
> so it's installed, but I need to know what /usr/bin/make linked to. It
> would have either been a shell script or symlink...what does yours
> look like?
>
> vi /usr/bin/make or whatever
>
> thanks!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ll /usr/bin/make
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   132568 Jan  2 03:54 /usr/bin/make*

I'm a bit confused... Mine's a 132k binary file.

I could send it to you.  :)

Does this mean anything to you:

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Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:15:11 -0700
eric huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> make it baby!

but link it to what?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/joehill>$whereis make
make: /usr/share/man/man1/make.1.bz2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/joehill>$which make
which: no make in
(/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local
/sbin) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/joehill>$ll /usr/bin/make
ls: /usr/bin/make: No such file or directory
but

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/joehill>$rpm -q make
make-3.80-3mdk

so it's installed, but I need to know what /usr/bin/make linked to. It
would have either been a shell script or symlink...what does yours
look like?

vi /usr/bin/make or whatever

thanks!

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Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread eric huff
> I am missing "make" now, but I don't know what to symlink it to.

> do you  know what the "make" command usually links with?

Is this what you mean?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] cvs]$ whereis make
make: /usr/bin/make /usr/share/man/man1/make.1.bz2

[EMAIL PROTECTED] cvs]$ which make
/usr/bin/make

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ll /usr/bin/make
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   132568 Jan  2 03:54 /usr/bin/make*

make it baby!

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Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread JoeHill
On 03 Jun 2003 10:46:27 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> 1.) Don't panic.
> 2.) Don't panic.
> 3.) Don't panic.

me panic? what's the worst that could happen? I reinstall the system,
and since I run everything from my home dir anyway, I just gotta
remember a few dependencies first, like libxpm and that, X11-devel, etc.

> Have you done a nice clean shutdown and reboot yet?

I rebooted, and it makes it but there some errors that go by too fast to
read.

I am missing "make" now, but I don't know what to symlink it to.

christ, this is starting to look like a PITA.

do you  know what the "make" command usually links with?

chahs 

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Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread JoeHill
On 03 Jun 2003 10:46:27 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> 
> 1.) Don't panic.
> 2.) Don't panic.
> 3.) Don't panic.
> 
> Have you done a nice clean shutdown and reboot yet?

LOL, I was right all along! I did:

ln -s /usr/bin/perl5 perl

and it seems to be back, just a missing symlink. Galeon won't run
either, I bet a couple of symlinks got deleted somehow.

whew!

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Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 10:17, JoeHill wrote:

> profile and ld.so.conf show:
> 
> /usr/X11R6/bin
> and
> /usr/X11R6/lib
> /usr/lib/qt3/lib
> 
> respectively.
> 
> I show /usr/bin/perl5 and /usr/lib/perl5, so I know it's still there. I
> tried rpm -e --nodeps perl then reinstalled, then ldconfig again, still
> no go.
> 
> aaah craaap.

1.) Don't panic.
2.) Don't panic.
3.) Don't panic.

Have you done a nice clean shutdown and reboot yet?
 
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Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread JoeHill
On 03 Jun 2003 09:55:54 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:



> Check all your system paths (in /etc/profile) and your lib paths (in
> /etc/ld.so.conf)

profile and ld.so.conf show:

/usr/X11R6/bin

and

/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/lib/qt3/lib

respectively.

I show /usr/bin/perl5 and /usr/lib/perl5, so I know it's still there. I
tried rpm -e --nodeps perl then reinstalled, then ldconfig again, still
no go.

aaah craaap.


 - rerun ldconfig just in case - locate your perl
> directory and double check that all is well and good there for
> reassurance. Look for any aberrations anywhere. Could be something
> SIMPLE, could be something worse...
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Re: [newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 09:41, JoeHill wrote:
> Seems I've gone and made my system think I no longer have perl
> installed, which means I can't use urpmi, run drakconf, pretty much
> everything is hosed. I had a hard X lockup and tried the ctrl-alt-sysreq
> sequence, ended up rebooting anyway.
> 
> as you can see my sig is gone...
> 
> anyway, when it started to boot up, I did a file system integrity check,
> it asked if I wanted to repair the errors it found, I said yes, and MDK
> booted, I did not notice any other errors.
> 
> I'm thinkin  a symlink got deleted maybe? anyway, before I go and do
> something drastic, is there a way someone know that I can recover from
> this? I would love to just reinstall perl, but I can't install or
> uninstall anything at the moment...
> 
> cheers all... :(

Check all your system paths (in /etc/profile) and your lib paths (in
/etc/ld.so.conf) - rerun ldconfig just in case - locate your perl
directory and double check that all is well and good there for
reassurance. Look for any aberrations anywhere. Could be something
SIMPLE, could be something worse...
 
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[newbie] Perl is no more...

2003-06-03 Thread JoeHill
Seems I've gone and made my system think I no longer have perl
installed, which means I can't use urpmi, run drakconf, pretty much
everything is hosed. I had a hard X lockup and tried the ctrl-alt-sysreq
sequence, ended up rebooting anyway.

as you can see my sig is gone...

anyway, when it started to boot up, I did a file system integrity check,
it asked if I wanted to repair the errors it found, I said yes, and MDK
booted, I did not notice any other errors.

I'm thinkin  a symlink got deleted maybe? anyway, before I go and do
something drastic, is there a way someone know that I can recover from
this? I would love to just reinstall perl, but I can't install or
uninstall anything at the moment...

cheers all... :(

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