Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
> > Paul > -- > The Bible was written by the same people who said the Earth was flat. > > http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 > -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=- Actually Paul, your statement is incorrect. The people that originally wrote down everything that was "later" canonized as "the bible" new from the words they were writing that the earth was indeed round. It was the clerics of the dark, and middle ages who lacked the proper spiritual understanding and intelectual maturity who believed the earth was flat. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496
Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
Ata boy Ralph. Pine's the only way to go...it's the Unix way, you know? -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Ralph Lambert wrote: > Thank you everybody I am now happily using Pine for reading email and > news. > > Ralph > > > Ralph Lambert wrote: > > > OK > > > > Since nobody answered my first post does this mean I can't use Pine > > with a dialup connection? > > > > Ralph > > > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Ralph Lambert wrote: > > > Where can I find information about setting up Pine with a dialup > > > connection. I am assuming that it can be done since I have seen > > > th echeckbox forr using a slow connection. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS Where is my LM serial number so I can properly register? > > > >
Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
Oh, I almost forgot. This was the method I used.
I had it all except the last part. Now on to samba. I can print using
my linux printer from win98 box. I can see everybody bothways in
Network Neighborhood. I just cant copy or write. Sigh. Love it
though.
Ralph
The following instructions are courtesy of Ramon Gandia, one of the
great gurus on our Mandrake list.
There is NO NEED whatsoever to use fetchmail or sendmail or any other
program to configure Pine. In fact, configuring it is one of the easiest
things in the world of Linux. Here are the 1-2-3 steps:
1) in xterm type as user "pine" (without the quotes). This will bring up
Pine and create a hidden file .pinerc in your home directory. Now close
down Pine by typing Quit.
2) Now open any text editor and bring up the .pinerc file you just
created. Remember that this file will NOT exist until you first launch
Pine as in step 1.
Now the rest is as easy as pie:
Just fill out the following information. Below is the relevant section
from my .pinerc:
# Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for
PC-Pine. personal-name=Benjamin Sher
# Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail.
user-domain=
# List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses
sendmail. smtp-server=mail.msy.bellsouth.net
# NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news
reading. nntp-server=news.msy.bellsouth.net
# Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox #
Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER).
inbox-path={msy.bellsouth.net/pop3}INBOX
3) That's it, folks!!!
Just type in your name, your mail server, news server and your INBOX,
precisely as you see above. Save your file. Now relaunch pine by typing
pine in xterm. Pine will now work perfectly. It will ask you for your
password. Type your password and your mail will be waiting for you. You
can now SEND and RECEIVE mail and REPLY and read NEWS. By the way, after
you get you mail in Pine, you will find that the same mail may be
waiting for you in Netscape. No problem. Standard procedure.
Again, don't thank me. Thank Ramon!
Ralph Lambert wrote:
> Thank you everybody I am now happily using Pine for reading email and
> news.
>
> Ralph
>
> Ralph Lambert wrote:
>
> > OK
> >
> > Since nobody answered my first post does this mean I can't use Pine
> > with a dialup connection?
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Ralph Lambert wrote:
> > > Where can I find information about setting up Pine with a dialup
> > > connection. I am assuming that it can be done since I have seen
> > > th echeckbox forr using a slow connection.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Ralph
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> > > PS Where is my LM serial number so I can properly register?
Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
Thank you everybody I am now happily using Pine for reading email and news. Ralph Ralph Lambert wrote: > OK > > Since nobody answered my first post does this mean I can't use Pine > with a dialup connection? > > Ralph > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Ralph Lambert wrote: > > Where can I find information about setting up Pine with a dialup > > connection. I am assuming that it can be done since I have seen > > th echeckbox forr using a slow connection. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > PS Where is my LM serial number so I can properly register?
Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Vic wrote:
> Well, yes and no.
>
> Since pine relies on only the local mailbox in
> the Linux mail spool, which only works with either
> internal network mail or with a static ip domain
> thing, it is not set up to talk to a pop server,
Well, errr, this is not true
You can define your inbox path (in the setup menu or in your ~/.pinerc
file) as beeing :
inbox-path={mail.myisp.com/IMAP}inbox
And, of course, this works as well with POP3.
> but I thikn there is a little app or daemon
> called fetchmail?? I think, that does talk
> to the pop server that you specify and it
> I think, puts the mails from the pop server
> into the local mail spool on your machine,
> therefore making it retreivable by pine.
Yes. Fetchmail is another alternative to do nearly the same work.
The difference is that you can retrieve mail from several remote mailbox
with fetchmail (I don't think it's possible with pine. Please, if it IS
possible, tell me how. It would help me.)
[snip]
> >
> > Since nobody answered my first post does this mean I can't use Pine
> > with a dialup connection?
I don't know how it works, but I know that you can have diald
automagically connecting you to the internet as soon as any program needs
it.
HTH
Flupke
--
<< There's no place like ~ >>
Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
Ralph, I'm using Pine with a dial up connection. Sorry no one answered your first post. I only just now saw it on the list. Using Pine with dial connections is fairly easy. 1) you want to initialize your "Inbox" by launching Pine. 2) then you want to configure your settings for Pine on your system *I would suggest checking out the docs at http://www.washington.edu/pine * 3) next, you're going to have to get your mail from the server. while Pine will do this the process is VERY tedious and not very much fun. To get your mail from the server you can use a program called "fetchmail". To use the program all you have to do is open a terminal window and call the program. fetchmail -u username mail.hostname.com a) call the programfetchmail b) the ( -u ) flag lets Fetchmail is to pass your "username" to the ISP's mail server. Which, by the way is the one connected tro your email address and not the one you use to log into Linux with. In your case it's "rlambert". c) the last argument in this command for fetching your mail is your ISP's mail server. If you're not sure what this is a quick call to your ISP can solve this mystery. d) the last thing to do here is once the command has been entered correctly the next thing you want to do is hit When fetchmail connects to your mail server you will be asked to provide your password to authenticate yourself to the mail server. Do so, and when the mail server is satisfied that you have authenticated yourself correctly your mail will begin to be downloaded from the mailserver. It's destination is /var/spool/mail/$USER. ( $USER = your username) This is the default location where Pine will look for your messages. SPECIAL NOTE: If you try to run fetchmail BEFORE running Pine for the first time your messages will not find their way to the right place and you will lose ALL of them in the process. It is very important to run Pine FIRST before using fetchmail in order to initialize your mail directory in the system. That about covers it in breif. Once you've downloaded your mail you can begin to read it at your leisure. Enjoy and if you have any more questions, and I know you will, please feel free to contact me. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Ralph Lambert wrote: > OK > > Since nobody answered my first post does this mean I can't use Pine > with a dialup connection? > > Ralph > > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Ralph Lambert wrote: > > Where can I find information about setting up Pine with a dialup > > connection. I am assuming that it can be done since I have seen > > th echeckbox forr using a slow connection. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Ralph > > > > > > PS Where is my LM serial number so I can properly register? > > > >
Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
Dear Vic and friends:
This is a duplicate of my message "Configuring Pine -- Instructions". I
should have sent it to the list using the "Pine and dialup" subject
header. However, I hope you all forgive me for posting it again, this
time under the right heading so it will get to the right people.
Yours,
Benjamin
The following instructions are courtesy of Ramon Gandia, one of the
great gurus on our Mandrake list.
There is NO NEED whatsoever to use fetchmail or sendmail or any other
program to configure Pine. In fact, configuring it is one of the easiest
things in the world of Linux. Here are the 1-2-3 steps:
1) in xterm type as user "pine" (without the quotes). This will bring up
Pine and create a hidden file .pinerc in your home directory. Now close
down Pine by typing Quit.
2) Now open any text editor and bring up the .pinerc file you just
created. Remember that this file will NOT exist until you first launch
Pine as in step 1.
Now the rest is as easy as pie:
Just fill out the following information. Below is the relevant section
from my .pinerc:
# Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for
PC-Pine. personal-name=Benjamin Sher
# Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail.
user-domain=
# List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses
sendmail. smtp-server=mail.msy.bellsouth.net
# NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news
reading. nntp-server=news.msy.bellsouth.net
# Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox #
Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER).
inbox-path={msy.bellsouth.net/pop3}INBOX
3) That's it, folks!!!
Just type in your name, your mail server, news server and your INBOX,
precisely as you see above. Save your file. Now relaunch pine by typing
pine in xterm. Pine will now work perfectly. It will ask you for your
password. Type your password and your mail will be waiting for you. You
can now SEND and RECEIVE mail and REPLY and read NEWS. By the way, after
you get you mail in Pine, you will find that the same mail may be
waiting for you in Netscape. No problem. Standard procedure.
Again, don't thank me. Thank Ramon!
Yours,
Benjamin
--
Benjamin and Anna Sher
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Larry Marshall wrote: > >> Since nobody answered my first post does this mean I can't use Pine >> with a dialup connection? > >I don't use Pine but I can't imagine that it cares how the connection >is made as long as one is active when you tell it to send/receive You need to pull mail from your ISP's mail server through fetchmail or getmail. That drops the mail in a mail-file. Pine reads that file. Pine is a mail user agent (read and write), where sendmail or qmail and fetchmail is a mail transport agent (does the actual getting and sending) Paul -- The Bible was written by the same people who said the Earth was flat. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
Well, yes and no. Since pine relies on only the local mailbox in the Linux mail spool, which only works with either internal network mail or with a static ip domain thing, it is not set up to talk to a pop server, but I thikn there is a little app or daemon called fetchmail?? I think, that does talk to the pop server that you specify and it I think, puts the mails from the pop server into the local mail spool on your machine, therefore making it retreivable by pine. Any other comments or corrections requested. Hope this helps. Vic (Not Charley) On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, you wrote: > OK > > Since nobody answered my first post does this mean I can't use Pine > with a dialup connection? > > Ralph > > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Ralph Lambert wrote: > > Where can I find information about setting up Pine with a dialup > > connection. I am assuming that it can be done since I have seen > > th echeckbox forr using a slow connection. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Ralph > > > > > > PS Where is my LM serial number so I can properly register?
Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
> Since nobody answered my first post does this mean I can't use Pine > with a dialup connection? I don't use Pine but I can't imagine that it cares how the connection is made as long as one is active when you tell it to send/receive mail. I don't think it will initiate that connection though any more than any other mail tool. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Pine and dialup
OK Since nobody answered my first post does this mean I can't use Pine with a dialup connection? Ralph On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Ralph Lambert wrote: > Where can I find information about setting up Pine with a dialup > connection. I am assuming that it can be done since I have seen > th echeckbox forr using a slow connection. > > Thanks in advance. > > Ralph > > > PS Where is my LM serial number so I can properly register?
[newbie] Pine and dialup
Where can I find information about setting up Pine with a dialup connection. I am assuming that it can be done since I have seen th echeckbox forr using a slow connection. Thanks in advance. Ralph PS Where is my LM serial number so I can properly register?
