Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...

2003-06-24 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 24 Jun 2003 2:24 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:01:20 +0200
>
> Anders Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:55:07 -0400
> >
> > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:20:59 -0500
> > >
> > > "C. Tresenriter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > > > What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on
> > > > my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that
> > > > I want to use  - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM.
> >
> > I would rather guess that you will enhance the system by compiling as
> > much as possible compared to using rpm's
> >
> > /Anders
>
> So if I understand, tar, bzip, etc. require compiling and RPMs are already
> compiled and did I read something about making an RPM out of some other
> format? Is there a tutorial or link to explain all aspects of compiling to
> a noob like me? c

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Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...

2003-06-24 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:29:10 -0400
JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> Most source packages will come with, ahem, detailed instructions
> (README or INSTALL). 9 times out of 10 the instructions are:
> 
> unpack archive
> 
> cd into new dir
> 
> ./configure
> 
> make
> 
> this assumes you have all development tools installed like gcc and so
> on.
> 
> > and did I read something about making an RPM out
> > of some other format?
> 
> yes, SRPMs can be compiled with rpm --rebuild *.srpm, again, you need to
> have the development tools installed though.
> 


I knew those dev tools would come in handy! 



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Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...

2003-06-24 Thread C. Tresenriter

> 
> http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=10

Juyst what I was looking for Derek
Muchgrass!
c


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Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...

2003-06-24 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:01:20 +0200
Anders Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:55:07 -0400
> JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:20:59 -0500
> > "C. Tresenriter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > 
> > > What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on
> > > my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that
> > > I want to use  - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM.
> >
> 
> I would rather guess that you will enhance the system by compiling as much as 
> possible compared to using rpm's
> 
> /Anders

So if I understand, tar, bzip, etc. require compiling and RPMs are already 
compiled and did I read something about making an RPM out of some other format?
Is there a tutorial or link to explain all aspects of compiling to a noob like me?
c



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Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...

2003-06-24 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:24:10 -0500
"C. Tresenriter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> So if I understand, tar, bzip, etc. require compiling and RPMs are
> already compiled  Is there a tutorial or link to explain all
> aspects of compiling to a noob like me?

Most source packages will come with, ahem, detailed instructions
(README or INSTALL). 9 times out of 10 the instructions are:

unpack archive

cd into new dir

./configure

make

this assumes you have all development tools installed like gcc and so
on.

> and did I read something about making an RPM out
> of some other format?

yes, SRPMs can be compiled with rpm --rebuild *.srpm, again, you need to
have the development tools installed though.

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+ whole of the law.


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Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...

2003-06-24 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:08:37 -0500
"C. Tresenriter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

>  I wonder why my inbox is getting replies to my question before it
>  gets my question??

i pop my server every 3 minutes for mail. i'm nuts.

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Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...

2003-06-24 Thread C. Tresenriter
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:55:07 -0400
JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:20:59 -0500
> "C. Tresenriter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on
> > my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that
> > I want to use  - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM.
> 
> If you are talking about installing from source rather than RPM, then
> there is very little chance that you will damage your system.
> 
> One way to make sure this does not happen is to compile the source
> package and run it from there, that way it cannot affect any of the /
> file system.
> 
> -- 
> + Joe Hill
> + Registered Linux user #282046
> + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net
> + ICQ# 279518458 
> + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the
> + whole of the law.

Installing from source huh?
I've got another topic to read up on :)
Thanks again

BTW  I wonder why my inbox is getting replies to my question before it gets my 
question??



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Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...

2003-06-24 Thread Anders Lind
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:55:07 -0400
JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:20:59 -0500
> "C. Tresenriter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on
> > my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that
> > I want to use  - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM.
>

I would rather guess that you will enhance the system by compiling as much as possible 
compared to using rpm's

/Anders

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Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...

2003-06-24 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:20:59 -0500
"C. Tresenriter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on
> my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that
> I want to use  - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM.

If you are talking about installing from source rather than RPM, then
there is very little chance that you will damage your system.

One way to make sure this does not happen is to compile the source
package and run it from there, that way it cannot affect any of the /
file system.

-- 
+ Joe Hill
+ Registered Linux user #282046
+ Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net
+ ICQ# 279518458 
+ Do what thou wilt, this shall be the
+ whole of the law.


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[newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...

2003-06-24 Thread C. Tresenriter
What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on my 9.1 install?
I found a compression format for audio yesterday that I want to use  - .shn - but the 
program isn't made in an RPM.
thanks
c


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