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:) Larry, as always your thoughts are awesome, and profound. Also much appreciated! -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Larry Marshall wrote: > > > > Frankly, I'm getting tired of people and their bloated sense of > > > self-importance on this list, and have made up my mind that in a week, if >bashing and flaming doesn't all settle down, I'm leaving. > > Greg...I've left several conferences because I felt that the > signal/noise ratio became unbearable so I can understand your > feelings. On the other hand, this conference seems to have a few > people who have dubbed themselves list monitor, have set up their own > rules as to what's "proper" and have acted accordingly. In doing so > they quickly label themselves as fools and it's always best to ignore > fools. > > To decrease your own blood pressure, simply take their names and stick > them in a filter that deletes any msg coming from them. You'll be > amazed at how quickly you can get reduce the "bashing and flaming" > that you see here. > > > > been able to provide assistance, but the fact is that there should be > > > absolutley no need to instruct new list members in methods of acceptable > > > conduct. > > Unfortunately, this is the reality of the Internet. Not only are many > people new to Linux, they're new to writing/interacting in public > forums. Many things get said and actions taken that would never > happen if all of us were standing in a hall talking about Linux. > Somehow, people need to learn that the 'standing in a hall' model is > what's going on here and that the same common courtesy towards other > humans that would be given in such a forum should be applied here. > Further, we also need to learn electronic ways of "walking away" from > those few guys who are anti-social. Filters are your feet in this > case. > > So, leave discussions containing people who irritate you but don't > leave the party. > > > > For those who appreciate my help, if I do in fact leave you may continue to >write me off-list. But as things has been going, there is simply not much here to >keep me anymore. > > I appreciate anyone who's willing to write information here about > using Linux. They can write it in English, German, French or Swahili, > though I'll only benefit personally if it's in French or English > (grin). > > Cheers --- Larry > >
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I can understand french german spanish and some dutch, but I cannot write much in them, mandrake is french, and supposed to be world class, so expect some other languages, which I for one welcome. is american realy english anyway? or just a sometimes charming variation. mind you I 'd like to have your Bill of Rights! peter (uk subject. ie no rights at all) Kathleen Dickason wrote: > You're right. Perhaps he can understand English but not compose in it? I'd > be willing to be that he posted to the lists in the languages he can > understand, but wrote in his primary language. I guess that's spamming, but > I have lots of empathy for newbies desperate for information. :/ > > I'm curious: is it against the rules for someone to post a request in a > language other than the list language, looking for an answer in the list > language? > > Kathleen > > "Austin L. Denyer" wrote: > > > The mandrake lists are available in several different languages - you > > select which one when you subscribe via the website, although I did not > > see a Spanish one. > > > > I think the thing that irks most is that the guy states in his e-mail > > that he also speaks English and Italian. If he can speak English then > > why not POST in English? If his Italian is better than his English then > > there is an Italian version of this list... > > > > For the benefit of the others, it is NOT an advert - dwyatt is right. > > > > It actually says (loosely translated): > > = > > Newbie Group: I need to know if you could send to me or inform me which > > Web site I can download drivers from so that mandrake can boot in > > graphics mode. Linux does not recognize my graphics card. This is the > > Diamond VIPER II Z200. I hope that you can help me, since, if it is not > > possible I will not be able to run Linux on my computer. > > Thank you very much. > > Fernando Vasconcelos. > > My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > PS: I can understand English and Italian > > == > > > > Regards, > > Ozz. > > > > > No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, > > IIRC... > > > > > > > what the heck > > > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like > > advertisements!
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> > Frankly, I'm getting tired of people and their bloated sense of > > self-importance on this list, and have made up my mind that in a week, if bashing >and flaming doesn't all settle down, I'm leaving. Greg...I've left several conferences because I felt that the signal/noise ratio became unbearable so I can understand your feelings. On the other hand, this conference seems to have a few people who have dubbed themselves list monitor, have set up their own rules as to what's "proper" and have acted accordingly. In doing so they quickly label themselves as fools and it's always best to ignore fools. To decrease your own blood pressure, simply take their names and stick them in a filter that deletes any msg coming from them. You'll be amazed at how quickly you can get reduce the "bashing and flaming" that you see here. > > been able to provide assistance, but the fact is that there should be > > absolutley no need to instruct new list members in methods of acceptable > > conduct. Unfortunately, this is the reality of the Internet. Not only are many people new to Linux, they're new to writing/interacting in public forums. Many things get said and actions taken that would never happen if all of us were standing in a hall talking about Linux. Somehow, people need to learn that the 'standing in a hall' model is what's going on here and that the same common courtesy towards other humans that would be given in such a forum should be applied here. Further, we also need to learn electronic ways of "walking away" from those few guys who are anti-social. Filters are your feet in this case. So, leave discussions containing people who irritate you but don't leave the party. > > For those who appreciate my help, if I do in fact leave you may continue to write >me off-list. But as things has been going, there is simply not much here to keep me >anymore. I appreciate anyone who's willing to write information here about using Linux. They can write it in English, German, French or Swahili, though I'll only benefit personally if it's in French or English (grin). Cheers --- Larry
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote: > I couldn't have said it better myself! > > -- > Mark we dont need to filter the spanish posts, just post em. > > ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 > ** <_||_> in the making of this | > ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 > > > On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Jack Landers wrote: > > > I agree, Iagoba!! Some of the ones who are complaining really don't speak > > (or write) English (or American, if you prefer) all that well. I can > > certainly tolerate a little Spanish, Italian, French, or whatever, if I > > have to tolerate the poor "English" from those who are complaining. > > > > Jack Landers > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "iagoba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Solicitar información > > > > > > > Well, I'm reading this discussion about what language use and I want say > > > something, (without trying to kill anyone, this only a comment) > > > > > > I'm Spanish, and I'm here, why? because the Spanish lists, news, etc... > > > where I can speak in my foreign language normally works like shit, > > > nobody answers our questions, perhaps because they don't know, perhaps > > > because they don't want to answer, I don't know, but that's makes that > > > lot of people that wants to learn something, or resolve some problems, > > > enters in English lists, (that are more easy to understand to us than > > > other languages than German for example), this don't mind that all of us > > > could speak in English, but perhaps could understand it, I thing that > > > that's the Case of Fernando Vasconcelos, I thing that people that could > > > understand Spanish, could try to help Fernando, and the others simply > > > Ignore it. > > > > > > Anyway, I understand that for the people that don't want to receive > > > mails in Spanish, perhaps we could propose something, like put [Spanish] > > > in the subject or something, then that people could filter this type of > > > mails, don't you thing? > > > > > > Please don't kill someone only for speak in Spanish because don't got > > > other chance to try to communicate & learn & resolve problems about > > > linux, help him. > > > > > > Well, see ya all, and don't be ugly for this mail ok? is a comment, > > > > > > Iagoba > > > > > > P.D.: Sorry for my but English, but u know, I'm Spanish. > > > > > > Alan Shoemaker wrote: > > > > > > > > Kathleen Dickason wrote: > > > > > > > > > > No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, > > IIRC... > > > > > > > > > > Kathleen > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > what the heck > > > > > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like > > advertisements! > > > > > > > > This is an English-based mailing list. There are available, > > > > English, French, Italian and German based Linux-Mandrake > > > > newbie and expert mailing lists. I think that if the > > > > powers-that-be wanted a mix of languages in their lists they > > > > wouldn't be offering and maintaining lists in several > > > > different languages. > > > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > >
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obviously im missing something from deleting alot of mail but who is being malicious, i may of said something about this person speaking another language in an english speaking forum but this was not malicious also because i misunderstood what he wrote but my foreign languages are rusted beyond repair but i honestly would like to know who is being considered malicious? i think your jumping to conclusions or i missed something In a message dated 14-Sep-00 19:06:48 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << leave the list because there happens to be a few that can't behave themselves in public. Wouldn't it be easier to just write the owners of the list and request a moritorium on malicious behavior? >>
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Greg, I, for one, would really hate to see you leave the list because there happens to be a few that can't behave themselves in public. Wouldn't it be easier to just write the owners of the list and request a moritorium on malicious behavior? -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Greg Stewart wrote: > To clear things up, and hopefully make this thread go away: > > The Linux-Mandrake Spanish Website does offer similar multi-linugal suport > lists as the English website. However, the options are: English, > English-Summarised, French, and Italian. > > If a native Spanish speaking individual chooses to write to an english > speaking board there may be a good reason for it: ie. English speakers on > the list may be from America, and have more exposure to Linux, and benefit > from better availability and the lower overall cost of computers; May > popluate the message boards more heavily than foreign language boards, and > therefore offer better opportunity for response; May speak a language that, > although foreign, is better understood than the others; etcetera, etcetera, > blah blah blah. > > Frankly, I'm getting tired of people and their bloated sense of > self-importance on this list, and have made up my mind that in a week, if > bashing and flaming doesn't all settle down, I'm leaving. > > I appologise to those with whom I have a good rapport, and to whom I have > been able to provide assistance, but the fact is that there should be > absolutley no need to instruct new list members in methods of acceptable > conduct. > > For those who appreciate my help, if I do in fact leave you may continue to > write me off-list. But as things has been going, there is simply not much > here to keep me anymore. > > --Greg > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kathleen Dickason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > You're right. Perhaps he can understand English but not compose in it? > I'd > > be willing to be that he posted to the lists in the languages he can > > understand, but wrote in his primary language. I guess that's spamming, > but > > I have lots of empathy for newbies desperate for information. :/ > > > > I'm curious: is it against the rules for someone to post a request in a > > language other than the list language, looking for an answer in the list > > language? > > > > Kathleen > > > > "Austin L. Denyer" wrote: > > > > > The mandrake lists are available in several different languages - you > > > select which one when you subscribe via the website, although I did not > > > see a Spanish one. > > > > > > I think the thing that irks most is that the guy states in his e-mail > > > that he also speaks English and Italian. If he can speak English then > > > why not POST in English? If his Italian is better than his English then > > > there is an Italian version of this list... > > > > > > For the benefit of the others, it is NOT an advert - dwyatt is right. > > > > > > It actually says (loosely translated): > > > = > > > Newbie Group: I need to know if you could send to me or inform me which > > > Web site I can download drivers from so that mandrake can boot in > > > graphics mode. Linux does not recognize my graphics card. This is the > > > Diamond VIPER II Z200. I hope that you can help me, since, if it is not > > > possible I will not be able to run Linux on my computer. > > > Thank you very much. > > > Fernando Vasconcelos. > > > My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > PS: I can understand English and Italian > > > == > > > > > > Regards, > > > Ozz. > > > > > > > No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, > > > IIRC... > > > > > > > > > what the heck > > > > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like > > > advertisements! > > > > > > > __ > Vous avez un site perso ? > 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! > Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif > > > >
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Hi, I just want to add a comment to this discussion. Fernando, at the end of his post wrote that he UNDERSTANDS english and italian, not that he SPEAKS or WRITES these languages, which is very different. So I supose he doesn't expect anyone to answer him in spanish, I think he asked for help the only way he could and he will be happy to get information in english. If he understands the answers or not is his problem, I don't think this could bother anyone on the list, IMHO of course. Cheers, Carol^ El mié, 13 sep 2000, escribiste: > Sounds like spanish to me and "solicitar informacion" is loosely "asking > for information" no need to flame the guy. Some english speaking people can > also speak spanish. I thought the list was to help fellow penguinistas. If > I'm wrong let me know and I will unsubscibe from the list. Dennis > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > either way i dont speak italian and i presumed based on solicitar in the > > subject but you sould be right that word is used else where > > > > In a message dated 13-Sep-00 21:05:02 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > writes: > > > > << I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the > > Viper II to work in 7.1 >> > > -- > Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
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Hi, this is not an advertisement, it's in spanish. This person would like some information on where he can get the drivers for the Viper II Z200 of diamond. Here is the translation: "Newbie group: I need that you inform me, to know if you could send me or inform me in which web I can download the drivers so that I can start Linux Mandrake in grafical mode because the program doesn't recognise my colour board. It's the VIPER II Z200 of diamond. I hope that you can help me, because if it's not possible y will not be able to run Linux on my pc. Thank you very much. Fernando Vasconcelos." I can speak spanish but I don't know where to get this information, so I can't help him. If someone does and he doesn't understand then I can help with the translation. Fernando, no sé dónde puedes conseguir los drivers, puedes probar en Google y buscar desde ahí. De todas formas lo que si puedo hacer es ayudarte si hay cosas que no entiendas porque estén en inglés, aunque al parecer tú si que hablas inglés, en cuyo caso creo que si posteas en inglés seguro que consigues más respuestas, aunque ya se que no es lo mismo entender que hablar o escribir, es mucho más fácil lo primero que lo segundo, de hecho cuando aprendemos un idioma nuevo lo primero que hacemos es entender y luego empezamos a hablar, escribir, etc. Un saludo y mucha suerte, Carol^ Ah! y no te preocupes si ves que hay gente que no le gusta que escribas en español en la lista, siempre tiene que haber de todo (me refiero a toda clase de personas). Seguro que en esta lista también hay gente dispuesta a ayudarte. Si quieres tambien puedes escribirme directamente a mi dirección. TRANSLATION OF MY REPLY (just in case..): "Fernando, I don't know where you can get the drivers, you can try in Google and search from there. Anyway what I CAN do is help you translate if there are things that you don't understand because they are in english, although apparently you do speak english, and in this case I think that if you post in english sure you would get more answers. I know that it's not the same to understand than to speak or write, the first thing is much easier, in fact when we learn a new language the first thing we do is understand and THEN we start speaking, writing, etc Cheers and good luck, Carol^ Ah! and don't worry if you see that there are people that don't like it if you write in spanish to the list, there always must be all sort of things (I mean all sort of people). Sure that on this list there are also people that will offer you some help. If you want you can also write to me directly to my address." P.S.: I've translated this so EVERYONE can read what I wrote in spanish, as I've posted this to the list and not to this person privatly. Cheers, and "buen rollito" (this is a spanish sort of modern expression that the young people use a lot now, it means something like "good vibrations" in a more slang way, I supose you know what I mean, don't you?) Carol^ El jue, 14 sep 2000, escribiste: > I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the > Viper II to work in 7.1? > > > dwyatt > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Solicitar información > > > > what the heck > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like > advertisements! > >
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To clear things up, and hopefully make this thread go away: The Linux-Mandrake Spanish Website does offer similar multi-linugal suport lists as the English website. However, the options are: English, English-Summarised, French, and Italian. If a native Spanish speaking individual chooses to write to an english speaking board there may be a good reason for it: ie. English speakers on the list may be from America, and have more exposure to Linux, and benefit from better availability and the lower overall cost of computers; May popluate the message boards more heavily than foreign language boards, and therefore offer better opportunity for response; May speak a language that, although foreign, is better understood than the others; etcetera, etcetera, blah blah blah. Frankly, I'm getting tired of people and their bloated sense of self-importance on this list, and have made up my mind that in a week, if bashing and flaming doesn't all settle down, I'm leaving. I appologise to those with whom I have a good rapport, and to whom I have been able to provide assistance, but the fact is that there should be absolutley no need to instruct new list members in methods of acceptable conduct. For those who appreciate my help, if I do in fact leave you may continue to write me off-list. But as things has been going, there is simply not much here to keep me anymore. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Kathleen Dickason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You're right. Perhaps he can understand English but not compose in it? I'd > be willing to be that he posted to the lists in the languages he can > understand, but wrote in his primary language. I guess that's spamming, but > I have lots of empathy for newbies desperate for information. :/ > > I'm curious: is it against the rules for someone to post a request in a > language other than the list language, looking for an answer in the list > language? > > Kathleen > > "Austin L. Denyer" wrote: > > > The mandrake lists are available in several different languages - you > > select which one when you subscribe via the website, although I did not > > see a Spanish one. > > > > I think the thing that irks most is that the guy states in his e-mail > > that he also speaks English and Italian. If he can speak English then > > why not POST in English? If his Italian is better than his English then > > there is an Italian version of this list... > > > > For the benefit of the others, it is NOT an advert - dwyatt is right. > > > > It actually says (loosely translated): > > = > > Newbie Group: I need to know if you could send to me or inform me which > > Web site I can download drivers from so that mandrake can boot in > > graphics mode. Linux does not recognize my graphics card. This is the > > Diamond VIPER II Z200. I hope that you can help me, since, if it is not > > possible I will not be able to run Linux on my computer. > > Thank you very much. > > Fernando Vasconcelos. > > My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > PS: I can understand English and Italian > > == > > > > Regards, > > Ozz. > > > > > No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, > > IIRC... > > > > > > > what the heck > > > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like > > advertisements! > > __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
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Perdone mi espanol, do puedo escribir perfectemente. Aparte de la gente quien quieren insultarse, hay gente aca quien pueden ayudarse. A veces, la gente quien hablan espanol escriben aparte de la lista despues de recibir una nota, pero yo prefiero molestar la otra genta al momento quien son estupido. Yo escribi la ulitma semana sobre personas y como compartieron aca, pero nadie me escuchieron. Que me puedo hacer? Entonces, (y perdone me otra vez) yo no se mucho sobre la VIPER II Z200 de diamond, pero se puede visitar la web de SuSE Linux. Usualmente, ellos tienen muchos drivers para controller cosas que son nuevos o que no son reconocido de la installacion. Espero que se puede encontrar lo que se necesita con SuSE, o que una otra persona se puede responder con mas informacion. Pero, yo no tengo mas. :-( Buena Suerte, --Greg - Original Message - From: Fernando Vasconcelos Grupo newbie: Necesito que me informen, para saber si ustedes me podrían enviar o informarme en que web puedo bajarme los ''drivers'' para que pueda iniciar linux mandrake en modo gráfico ya el programa no reconoce mi placa de color. Esta es la VIPER II Z200 de diamond. Espero que me puedan ayudar, ya que, si no es posible no podré correr Linux en mi computadora. Muchas Gracias. Fernando Vasconcelos. Mi dirección es [EMAIL PROTECTED] PD: puedo entender ingles e italiano __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
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You're right. Perhaps he can understand English but not compose in it? I'd be willing to be that he posted to the lists in the languages he can understand, but wrote in his primary language. I guess that's spamming, but I have lots of empathy for newbies desperate for information. :/ I'm curious: is it against the rules for someone to post a request in a language other than the list language, looking for an answer in the list language? Kathleen "Austin L. Denyer" wrote: > The mandrake lists are available in several different languages - you > select which one when you subscribe via the website, although I did not > see a Spanish one. > > I think the thing that irks most is that the guy states in his e-mail > that he also speaks English and Italian. If he can speak English then > why not POST in English? If his Italian is better than his English then > there is an Italian version of this list... > > For the benefit of the others, it is NOT an advert - dwyatt is right. > > It actually says (loosely translated): > = > Newbie Group: I need to know if you could send to me or inform me which > Web site I can download drivers from so that mandrake can boot in > graphics mode. Linux does not recognize my graphics card. This is the > Diamond VIPER II Z200. I hope that you can help me, since, if it is not > possible I will not be able to run Linux on my computer. > Thank you very much. > Fernando Vasconcelos. > My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PS: I can understand English and Italian > == > > Regards, > Ozz. > > > No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, > IIRC... > > > > > what the heck > > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like > advertisements!
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Sounds like spanish to me and "solicitar informacion" is loosely "asking for information" no need to flame the guy. Some english speaking people can also speak spanish. I thought the list was to help fellow penguinistas. If I'm wrong let me know and I will unsubscibe from the list. Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > either way i dont speak italian and i presumed based on solicitar in the > subject but you sould be right that word is used else where > > In a message dated 13-Sep-00 21:05:02 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > << I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the > Viper II to work in 7.1 >> -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
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The mandrake lists are available in several different languages - you select which one when you subscribe via the website, although I did not see a Spanish one. I think the thing that irks most is that the guy states in his e-mail that he also speaks English and Italian. If he can speak English then why not POST in English? If his Italian is better than his English then there is an Italian version of this list... For the benefit of the others, it is NOT an advert - dwyatt is right. It actually says (loosely translated): = Newbie Group: I need to know if you could send to me or inform me which Web site I can download drivers from so that mandrake can boot in graphics mode. Linux does not recognize my graphics card. This is the Diamond VIPER II Z200. I hope that you can help me, since, if it is not possible I will not be able to run Linux on my computer. Thank you very much. Fernando Vasconcelos. My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: I can understand English and Italian == Regards, Ozz. > No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, IIRC... > > > what the heck > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like advertisements!
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: > I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the > Viper II to work in 7.1? > > > dwyatt > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Solicitar información > > > > what the heck > > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like > advertisements! > > welcome in everybody. if enough people enter this newsgroup that dont speak english, i would think that mandrake would see to it that there are other newbie places for them. inclusion if far better than exclusion
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Si usted puede entender inglés entonces porqué no POSTE en inglés - esto es una lista inglesa. Hay versiones de esta lista en otros lenguajes - cheque el website de Mandrake. Respeto, Ozz. (If you can understand English then why not POST in English - this is an English list. There are versions of this list in other languages - check the Mandrake website.) > Grupo newbie: Necesito que me informen, para saber si ustedes me > podrían enviar o informarme en que web puedo bajarme los > ''drivers'' para que pueda iniciar linux mandrake en modo gráfico > ya el programa no reconoce mi placa de color. Esta es la VIPER II > Z200 de diamond. > Espero que me puedan ayudar, ya que, si no es posible no podré > correr Linux en mi computadora. > Muchas Gracias. Fernando Vasconcelos. > Mi dirección es [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PD: puedo entender ingles e italiano
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either way i dont speak italian and i presumed based on solicitar in the subject but you sould be right that word is used else where In a message dated 13-Sep-00 21:05:02 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the Viper II to work in 7.1 >>
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I don't think it's an advertisement. Maybe something about getting the Viper II to work in 7.1? dwyatt - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Solicitar información > what the heck > buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like advertisements! >
