Re: [newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4

[Malcolm Candlish]

Hi Ronald,

'cat /proc/interrupts' works well! Thanks for the input.

There appears to be no conflict, yet my dmx3191d scsi card while bearing an 
irq, rates 0 beneath CPU0. Is this correct do you think?

Best wishes,
Malcolm Candlish.

On Thursday 31 Mar 2005 14:25, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 March 2005 04:21 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote:
> > Does anyone know a good way to check for IRQ
> > conflict or have any other suggestion a to why it crashes.
>
> Hi Malcom. Just do a "cat /proc/interrupts" and you'll get the output that
> should help you determine if there is an IRQ conflict.


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Re: [newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Wednesday 30 March 2005 04:21 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote:

> Does anyone know a good way to check for IRQ
> conflict or have any other suggestion a to why it crashes.

Hi Malcom. Just do a "cat /proc/interrupts" and you'll get the output that 
should help you determine if there is an IRQ conflict.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4

[Malcolm Candlish]

On Tuesday 29 Mar 2005 20:49, Malcolm Candlish wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 Mar 2005 23:16, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > On Wednesday 23 March 2005 19:38, Malcolm Candlish wrote:
> > > Hi ,
> > >
> > > Is it possible to successfully change the kernel on Mandrake 10.1  64
> > > bit from 2.6 to 2.4.
> > >
> > > I do know that 2.4 modules run my scanner whereas the 2.6 will not run
> > > module dmx3191d.
> > >
> > > Is there a downside to doing this.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your time.
> > >
> > > Malcolm Candlish.
> >
> > Yes you can quite easily.
> >
> > With your Software Install GUI enter kernel in the search box
> > You will see a list of available kernels. Install the 2.4 kernel.
> >
> > It will become the default kernel. Your 2.6 kernel will still be
> > available in the lilo menu.
> > If you want to change the default kernel use the Boot GUI in Mandrake
> > Control centre.
> >
> > Note the 2.4 kernel loads its modules according to /etc/modules.conf,
> > while the 2.6 kernel uses /etc/modprobe.conf so you must ensure both
> > files are set up correctly.
> >
> > If you have an Nvidia video card and use the proprietary driver you will
> > have to compile it for each kernel version (using the correct
> > kernel-source)
> >
> > My own scanner does not work with the 2.6 kernel so I have to boot with
> > 2.4 whenever I want to use it.
> >
> > derek
>
> Thank you Derek. This seems to be a logical way forward and I downloaded
> the new kernel as you suggested. It went very smoothly.
>
> However, I still get an insmod problem, which you may have dealt with. This
> is with the new 2.4 kernel. It is as follows and if you have any ideas
> please let me know.

Since writing this mail, part of the problem has been solved by changing 
permissions to 777 and making files executable. However, after insmod (ing) 
the  module the scanner starts normally but goes into total computer crash 
after about 10 seconds. Does anyone know a good way to check for IRQ conflict 
or have any other suggestion a to why it crashes.

The change of kernel truly surprised me by its straight forwardness and if 
other Lister's cannot get hardware to work with 2.6 would advise them to try 
2.4. Mandrake is extraordinarily versatile.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4

[Malcolm Candlish]

On Wednesday 23 Mar 2005 23:16, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 March 2005 19:38, Malcolm Candlish wrote:
> > Hi ,
> >
> > Is it possible to successfully change the kernel on Mandrake 10.1  64 bit
> > from 2.6 to 2.4.
> >
> > I do know that 2.4 modules run my scanner whereas the 2.6 will not run
> > module dmx3191d.
> >
> > Is there a downside to doing this.
> >
> > Thank you for your time.
> >
> > Malcolm Candlish.
>
> Yes you can quite easily.
>
> With your Software Install GUI enter kernel in the search box
> You will see a list of available kernels. Install the 2.4 kernel.
>
> It will become the default kernel. Your 2.6 kernel will still be available
> in the lilo menu.
> If you want to change the default kernel use the Boot GUI in Mandrake
> Control centre.
>
> Note the 2.4 kernel loads its modules according to /etc/modules.conf, while
> the 2.6 kernel uses /etc/modprobe.conf so you must ensure both files are
> set up correctly.
>
> If you have an Nvidia video card and use the proprietary driver you will
> have to compile it for each kernel version (using the correct
> kernel-source)
>
> My own scanner does not work with the 2.6 kernel so I have to boot with 2.4
> whenever I want to use it.
>
> derek

Thank you Derek. This seems to be a logical way forward and I downloaded the 
new kernel as you suggested. It went very smoothly.

However, I still get an insmod problem, which you may have dealt with. This is 
with the new 2.4 kernel. It is as follows and if you have any ideas please 
let me know.

On trying to insmod module:-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# 
insmod-f /lib/modules/2.4.28-0.rc1.5mdk/kernel/driver   
   
s/scsi/dmx3191d.o
/lib/modules/2.4.28-0.rc1.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.o: 
/lib/modules/2.4. 
28-0.rc1.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.o: unresolved symbol 
print_msg_R8cc5a   e07

Even if you can't crack it, I do thank you for all your kind help.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4

[Derek Jennings]

On Wednesday 23 March 2005 19:38, Malcolm Candlish wrote:
> Hi ,
>
> Is it possible to successfully change the kernel on Mandrake 10.1  64 bit
> from 2.6 to 2.4.
>
> I do know that 2.4 modules run my scanner whereas the 2.6 will not run
> module dmx3191d.
>
> Is there a downside to doing this.
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> Malcolm Candlish.

Yes you can quite easily.

With your Software Install GUI enter kernel in the search box
You will see a list of available kernels. Install the 2.4 kernel.

It will become the default kernel. Your 2.6 kernel will still be available in 
the lilo menu.
If you want to change the default kernel use the Boot GUI in Mandrake Control 
centre.

Note the 2.4 kernel loads its modules according to /etc/modules.conf, while 
the 2.6 kernel uses /etc/modprobe.conf so you must ensure both files are set 
up correctly.

If you have an Nvidia video card and use the proprietary driver you will have 
to compile it for each kernel version (using the correct kernel-source)

My own scanner does not work with the 2.6 kernel so I have to boot with 2.4 
whenever I want to use it.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI card install for Trust Scanner.

[Malcolm Candlish]

On Wednesday 23 Mar 2005 14:02, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Malcolm Candlish wrote:
> > On Tuesday 22 Mar 2005 17:14, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> >>Malcolm Candlish wrote:
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>The system I  use is Mandrake 10.1  86_64 .
> >>>
> >>>I used insmod to install module dmx3191d.ko for my scsi card which is
> >>>necessary for my Trust Scanner.
> >>>
> >>>However I get the following return:-
> >>>
> >>>'-1 Unknown symbol in module.'
> >>>
> >>>Should I make a kernel bug report to to Linux, or is something else not
> >>>appropriate.
> >>>
> >>>With thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Malcolm Candlih.
> >>
> >>Before thinking of making a bug report, try using "modprobe" inplace of
> >>"insmod". The difference is that modprobe will load any modules that
> >>your modules needs in order to work, while insmod just tries to load the
> >>module you specified. The way things are structured, it is not unusual
> >>for 2 or 3 modules to need to be loaded for a driver to work. In this
> >>case, you probably need a common SCSI modules as well as the basic
> >>driver module. The reasion the common module code is in a seperate
> >>module is that it is used by many different modules, and will be shared
> >>by them if you have more then one loaded.
> >>
> >>modprobe dmx3191d
> >>
> >>Mikkel
> >
> > Dear Mikkel,
> >
> > I tried a you suggested with the following reult:-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/modprobe
> > '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko'
> > FATAL: Module
> > /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko not found.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/insmod
> > '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko'
> > insmod: error inserting
> > '/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko': -1
> > Unknown symbol in module
> >
> > Under insmod '-1 Unknown symbol in module', and under modprobe 'not
> > found' even though I included the full path!
> >
> > I don't know of any other modules that could be needed.
> >
> > Thank you, I do appreciate your kind input.
> >
> > Malcolm Candlish.
>
> Try "modprobe dmx3191d" instead. That is the form needed for modprobe.
> It will use the modules for the currently running kernel.
>
> Mikkel

Dear Mikkel,

I tried with the naked modprobe with this result:-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# modprobe dmx3191d.ko
FATAL: Module dmx3191d.ko not found.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# modprobe dmx3191d
FATAL: Could not open 
'/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko.gz': No such 
file or directory

dmx3191d.ko.gz does not exist as I have used gunzip which I repeated on 
dmx3191d.ko just to be sure.

Prior to receiving your very kind e-mail, I posted an e-mail onto the list as 
to whether I could use the 2.4 kernel with Mandrake 10.1 64 bit. I do know 
that the requirede module will work in linux 2.4. However I am not so sure as 
to whether it would work with Mandrake 10.1 64 bit.

Thank you so much Mikkel for your helpful support and time.

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[newbie] SCSI module change from 2.6 to 2.4

[Malcolm Candlish]

Hi ,

Is it possible to successfully change the kernel on Mandrake 10.1  64 bit from 
2.6 to 2.4. 

I do know that 2.4 modules run my scanner whereas the 2.6 will not run module 
dmx3191d.

Is there a downside to doing this.

Thank you for your time.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI card install for Trust Scanner.

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Malcolm Candlish wrote:
On Tuesday 22 Mar 2005 17:14, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Malcolm Candlish wrote:
Hi,
The system I  use is Mandrake 10.1  86_64 .
I used insmod to install module dmx3191d.ko for my scsi card which is
necessary for my Trust Scanner.
However I get the following return:-
'-1 Unknown symbol in module.'
Should I make a kernel bug report to to Linux, or is something else not
appropriate.
With thanks,
Malcolm Candlih.
Before thinking of making a bug report, try using "modprobe" inplace of
"insmod". The difference is that modprobe will load any modules that
your modules needs in order to work, while insmod just tries to load the
module you specified. The way things are structured, it is not unusual
for 2 or 3 modules to need to be loaded for a driver to work. In this
case, you probably need a common SCSI modules as well as the basic
driver module. The reasion the common module code is in a seperate
module is that it is used by many different modules, and will be shared
by them if you have more then one loaded.
modprobe dmx3191d
Mikkel

Dear Mikkel,
I tried a you suggested with the following reult:-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/modprobe 
'/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko'
FATAL: Module /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko not 
found.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/insmod 
'/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko'
insmod: error inserting 
'/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko': -1 Unknown 
symbol in module

Under insmod '-1 Unknown symbol in module', and under modprobe 'not 
found' even though I included the full path!

I don't know of any other modules that could be needed.
Thank you, I do appreciate your kind input.
Malcolm Candlish.
Try "modprobe dmx3191d" instead. That is the form needed for modprobe. 
It will use the modules for the currently running kernel.

Mikkel
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Re: [newbie] SCSI card install for Trust Scanner.

[Malcolm Candlish]

On Tuesday 22 Mar 2005 17:14, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Malcolm Candlish wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The system I  use is Mandrake 10.1  86_64 .
> >
> > I used insmod to install module dmx3191d.ko for my scsi card which is
> > necessary for my Trust Scanner.
> >
> > However I get the following return:-
> >
> > '-1 Unknown symbol in module.'
> >
> > Should I make a kernel bug report to to Linux, or is something else not
> > appropriate.
> >
> > With thanks,
> >
> > Malcolm Candlih.
>
> Before thinking of making a bug report, try using "modprobe" inplace of
> "insmod". The difference is that modprobe will load any modules that
> your modules needs in order to work, while insmod just tries to load the
> module you specified. The way things are structured, it is not unusual
> for 2 or 3 modules to need to be loaded for a driver to work. In this
> case, you probably need a common SCSI modules as well as the basic
> driver module. The reasion the common module code is in a seperate
> module is that it is used by many different modules, and will be shared
> by them if you have more then one loaded.
>
> modprobe dmx3191d
>
> Mikkel

Dear Mikkel,

I tried a you suggested with the following reult:-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/modprobe 
'/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko'
FATAL: Module /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko not 
found.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] malcolm]# /sbin/insmod 
'/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko'
insmod: error inserting 
'/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-12.5mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/dmx3191d.ko': -1 Unknown 
symbol in module

Under insmod '-1 Unknown symbol in module', and under modprobe 'not 
found' even though I included the full path!

I don't know of any other modules that could be needed.

Thank you, I do appreciate your kind input.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI card install for Trust Scanner.

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Malcolm Candlish wrote:
Hi,
The system I  use is Mandrake 10.1  86_64 .
I used insmod to install module dmx3191d.ko for my scsi card which is 
necessary for my Trust Scanner.

However I get the following return:-
'-1 Unknown symbol in module.'
Should I make a kernel bug report to to Linux, or is something else not 
appropriate.

With thanks,
Malcolm Candlih.
Before thinking of making a bug report, try using "modprobe" inplace of 
"insmod". The difference is that modprobe will load any modules that 
your modules needs in order to work, while insmod just tries to load the 
module you specified. The way things are structured, it is not unusual 
for 2 or 3 modules to need to be loaded for a driver to work. In this 
case, you probably need a common SCSI modules as well as the basic 
driver module. The reasion the common module code is in a seperate 
module is that it is used by many different modules, and will be shared 
by them if you have more then one loaded.

modprobe dmx3191d
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[newbie] SCSI card install for Trust Scanner.

[Malcolm Candlish]

Hi,

The system I  use is Mandrake 10.1  86_64 .

I used insmod to install module dmx3191d.ko for my scsi card which is 
necessary for my Trust Scanner.

However I get the following return:-

'-1 Unknown symbol in module.'

Should I make a kernel bug report to to Linux, or is something else not 
appropriate.

With thanks,

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Scanner problem

[Russell Butler]

Russell Butler wrote:
Hi all
Since upgrading to kernel 2.6.3-15, I am unable to access my SCSI 
scanners. I have a Benq 610s on a Symbios 53c810 card and a Canon FS4000 
on a Tekram TRM-S1040 card. Under the 2.4 kernel I could reinitialise 
these using the "rescan-scsi-bus.sh" shell script. Now however, I cannot 
access them at all, and even rebooting does not recognise them. 
Proc/scsi/scsi is empty, as is /dev/scsi/.

Harddrake shows the scsi cards present with modules âsym53c8xx and 
dc395x_trm respectively.

Can anyone advise me where to look next please? I don't use the scanners 
very often, but would like to have them working again. Even trying to 
boot back into the old kernel failed with a kernel panic because the 
modules were configured for the newer kernel.

Replying to my own problem.
Mandrake.expert list gave me the clue.
Modprobe the two modules as root enabled them to connect and are now 
identified and usable.
# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00
  Vendor: CANONModel: IX-40015GRev: 1.07
  Type:   Scanner  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: ColorModel: FlatbedScanner_4 Rev: 0107
  Type:   Scanner  ANSI SCSI revision: 02

Thought it might help someaone else with similar problems.
Russell


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[newbie] SCSI Scanner problem

[Russell Butler]

Hi all
Since upgrading to kernel 2.6.3-15, I am unable to access my SCSI 
scanners. I have a Benq 610s on a Symbios 53c810 card and a Canon FS4000 
on a Tekram TRM-S1040 card. Under the 2.4 kernel I could reinitialise 
these using the "rescan-scsi-bus.sh" shell script. Now however, I cannot 
access them at all, and even rebooting does not recognise them. 
Proc/scsi/scsi is empty, as is /dev/scsi/.

Harddrake shows the scsi cards present with modules âsym53c8xx and 
dc395x_trm respectively.

Can anyone advise me where to look next please? I don't use the scanners 
very often, but would like to have them working again. Even trying to 
boot back into the old kernel failed with a kernel panic because the 
modules were configured for the newer kernel.

Thanks for your thoughts
Russell



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Re: [newbie] SCSI MO Disk not configured by Mandrake 10.0

[Hoyt Bailey]

On Tuesday 29 June 2004 11:42, Malcom Schnabel wrote:
> I have downloaded and installed Mandrake Linux 10.0 on
> my extra computer. Everything appears to be working
> perfectly with the exception of my MO Drive. HardDrake
> had no problem recognizing the drive (Olympus MOS540)
> or the SCSI host adapter (Adaptec AHA-7850).
> Unfortunately, when I try to access my disks there are
> no files visible. From all appearances the disks are
> blank even though I have verified on other computers
> that they are not (Both MS Windows and SCO-Unix
> formats). 
> Also, Mandrake automatically set up icons on the
> desktop for direct access to my floppy drive and my
> CD-ROM but nothing appeared for the optical drive. I
> don't know what I'm doing as far as manually setting
> up and mounting drives. 
> I am a newbie in every sense of the word when it comes
> to Linux. I do have 25 years of experience with
> DOS/Windows though. Perhaps that is part of the
> problem. 
> Any help you can provide will be most appreciated. 
> 
It sounds like the drives arnt mounted.  To mount a drive you must have 
a directory for it in the case of CD or floppy that is usually 
under /mnt (/mnt/cdrom or /mnt/floppy) for HD it can be anywhere under 
'/'(/ is the parent directory).  You can 'mkdir /mnt/misc' and issue 
'mount /mnt/misc' but first you must define the drive in '/etc/fstab' 
Read the Fine Manual (RTFM) by issueing 'man mount' check at the bottom 
for other refereces.  I know you likely dont need such a basic 
explanation but one never knows.  Have Fun.

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[newbie] SCSI MO Drive not configured by Mandrake 10.0

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I have downloaded and installed Mandrake Linux 10.0 on my extra computer. Everything appears to be working perfectly with the exception of my MO Drive. HardDrake had no problem recognizing the drive (Olympus MOS540) or the SCSI host adapter (Adaptec AHA-7850). Unfortunately, when I try to access my disks there are no files visible. From all appearances the disks are blank even though I have verified on other computers that they are not (Both MS Windows and SCO-Unix formats). Also, Mandrake automatically set up icons on the desktop for direct access to my floppy drive and my CD-ROM but nothing appeared for the optical drive. I don't know what I'm doing as far as manually setting up and mounting drives. I am a newbie in every sense of the word when it comes to Linux. I do have 25 years of experience with DOS/Windows though. Perhaps that is part of the problem. Any help you can provide will be most
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[newbie] SCSI MO Disk not configured by Mandrake 10.0

[Malcom Schnabel]

I have downloaded and installed Mandrake Linux 10.0 on
my extra computer. Everything appears to be working
perfectly with the exception of my MO Drive. HardDrake
had no problem recognizing the drive (Olympus MOS540)
or the SCSI host adapter (Adaptec AHA-7850).
Unfortunately, when I try to access my disks there are
no files visible. From all appearances the disks are
blank even though I have verified on other computers
that they are not (Both MS Windows and SCO-Unix
formats). 
Also, Mandrake automatically set up icons on the
desktop for direct access to my floppy drive and my
CD-ROM but nothing appeared for the optical drive. I
don't know what I'm doing as far as manually setting
up and mounting drives. 
I am a newbie in every sense of the word when it comes
to Linux. I do have 25 years of experience with
DOS/Windows though. Perhaps that is part of the
problem. 
Any help you can provide will be most appreciated. 




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Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive

[Job Evers]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:19:23 -0400
Guy Rouillier wrote:
> 
> No need for guesswork, the rules are pretty simple:
> 
> (1) Each SCSI device must have a unique ID.  This is set by jumpers,
> usually on the back of the drive, but sometimes on the circuit board. 
> I have BusLogic, and it usually sets itself up for the highest SCSI ID
> (7 for narrow, 15 for wide).  That is configurable but there really is
> no reason to do so.
> 
> (2) The easiest thing to do is to configure your boot drive as SCSI ID
> 0.  Some OSes require it, others prefer it, still others don't care. 
> Again, this is usually configurable in the SCSI BIOS, but you'll save
> yourself some potential grief by just setting it to zero.
> 
> (3) Each end of the cable must be terminated.  Unless you have
> external devices, the controller is considered one end of the cable,
> and usually automatically terminates itself.  Again, that is
> configurable in the SCSI BIOS.  The other end of the cable will be
> attached to one of your drives.  The drive on the end of the cable
> must be terminated, all other drives must NOT be terminated. 
> Termination is typically accomplished either by a jumper or by a
> special terminator insert with a bunch of pins sticking out of it.
> 
> That's it.  Not too bad, right?

Nah, it was pretty easy now that you have explained it too me.   Thanks for the 
details.  Now lets hope the installation goes without a hitch. 


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Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Guy Rouillier wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:30:35 -0500 Job Evers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
> Thanks for the advice. I jiggled some of the cables around and
> eventually found a combination that worked for at least one of the
> drives. At least I know it works. I will keep messing around with
> settings, relying upon trial and error until I can get both drives
> recognized and working.
 No need for guesswork, the rules are pretty simple:
 (1) Each SCSI device must have a unique ID. This is set by jumpers,
 usually on the back of the drive, but sometimes on the circuit board.
 I have BusLogic, and it usually sets itself up for the highest SCSI
 ID (7 for narrow, 15 for wide). That is configurable but there
 really is no reason to do so.
 (2) The easiest thing to do is to configure your boot drive as SCSI
 ID 0. Some OSes require it, others prefer it, still others don't
 care. Again, this is usually configurable in the SCSI BIOS, but
 you'll save yourself some potential grief by just setting it to zero.
 (3) Each end of the cable must be terminated. Unless you have
 external devices, the controller is considered one end of the cable,
 and usually automatically terminates itself. Again, that is
 configurable in the SCSI BIOS. The other end of the cable will be
 attached to one of your drives. The drive on the end of the cable
 must be terminated, all other drives must NOT be terminated.
 Termination is typically accomplished either by a jumper or by a
 special terminator insert with a bunch of pins sticking out of it.
 That's it. Not too bad, right?
A couple of things.  The drive at the end of the cable is not terminated 
if you have a cable with a built-in terminator,  (I have a couple of 
these.) or you use a terminator that plugs into the last connector of 
the cable. (I have seen them, but I do not own one.)  You also need 
something on the cable configured to provide termination power.  this is 
usually the last drive, but some controller boards also have a jumper 
for it.  (And a jumper to get/provide termination power to/from the cable.)

The special terminator insert is actually a resister pack.  There may a 
dot on one end to indicate pin 1, depending on how the pack is wired.  
Putting that type in backwards causes strange errors.

There are also some other jumper setting on the drive, and in the BIOS 
that should match, but we can get into them if you run into more problems...

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Job Evers wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:48:30 -0500 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
If your hardware is working correctly, it is normally scanning the 
SCSI bus at this point, to see what is connected.  (The controller 
board has its own BIOS that is running.) I am not sure of the exact
 sequence of this controller, but if it just sits there, I would 
suspect that your SCSI drive are not terminated properly, or they
are addressed wrong. Let it sit at that point for about 5 minutes,
and see what it comes back with, if anything.  More information on
the hardware would also help. (Number and type of drives.  Internal
and/or external drives, ect.)


Yes, it does just sit there.  When I disconnect the drives the
computer moves past the 'scanning screen' and boots up fine into the
cdrom.  Regarding the hardware, it is a BusLogic controller.  I have
two hardrives connected to it.  Both are internal ibm scsi drives
(model number ddrs-39130)
Thanks for your help
This makes me think that the SCSI cable is not properly terminated.  A
SCSI cable has to be terminated on both ends.  With internal drives,
this is normally done on the controller board, and ether the last drive
on the cable, or a terminerator on the end of the cable.
The controller card can ether have auto-termination, or have a jumper to
 control it.  The drive will have a jumper, and possible removable
resister packs.  (I have not had a chance to check the drive numbers.)
If the cable has a terminator, it will ether be plugged into the last
connector, or be built into the end of the cable.
Troubleshooting SCSI problems can be a challenge.  If I remember right,
there is a SCSI HOWTO.  See if this helps.  If not, see if you can
determine how things are terminated.  You can also try booting with just 
the last drive in the chain connected, and see what that does.

I can probably be of more help later tonight...
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Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive

[Job Evers]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:48:30 -0500
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> If your hardware is working correctly, it is normally scanning the
> SCSI bus at this point, to see what is connected.  (The controller
> board has its own BIOS that is running.) I am not sure of the exact
> sequence of this controller, but if it just sits there, I would
> suspect that your SCSI drive are not terminated properly, or they are
> addressed wrong. Let it sit at that point for about 5 minutes, and see
> what it comes back with, if anything.  More information on the
> hardware would also help. (Number and type of drives.  Internal and/or
> external drives, ect.)
> 

Yes, it does just sit there.  When I disconnect the drives the computer moves past the 
'scanning screen' and boots up fine into the cdrom.  Regarding the hardware, it is a 
BusLogic controller.  I have two hardrives connected to it.  Both are internal ibm 
scsi drives (model number ddrs-39130)

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Job Evers wrote:
I was just given an old computer that uses SCSI drives.  I have never
worked with SCSI before.  When I boot it up it goes through the BIOS
and then a black screen with:
BusLogic  Bios Version 4.96I Intelligent Bus Master SCSI
Host Adapter (C) 1995BusLogic INC
And then it just sits there.
Any advice would be lovely.
Cheers,
If your hardware is working correctly, it is normally scanning the SCSI
bus at this point, to see what is connected.  (The controller board has 
its own BIOS that is running.) I am not sure of the exact sequence of 
this controller, but if it just sits there, I would suspect that your 
SCSI drive are not terminated properly, or they are addressed wrong. 
Let it sit at that point for about 5 minutes, and see what it comes back 
with, if anything.  More information on the hardware would also help. 
(Number and type of drives.  Internal and/or external drives, ect.)

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Drive

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Thursday 24 June 2004 16:16, Job Evers wrote:
> I was just given an old computer that uses SCSI drives.  I have
> never worked with SCSI before.  When I boot it up it goes through
> the BIOS and then a black screen with:
>
> BusLogic  Bios Version 4.96I
> Intelligent Bus Master SCSI Host Adapter
> (C) 1995BusLogic INC
>
> And then it just sits there.
>
> Any advice would be lovely.
>
> Cheers,

Can't help you here, but it reminds me of the good, old days when 
installing linux (around 7.0). Immidiately after the boot, the 
system asked : do you have any scsi devices ? - Since that question 
has disappeared in later versions, I guess the kernels should 
recognize scsi devices automatically ? - Or maybe you should try a 
contemporary kernel - I think 2.2 is still floating around out 
there.

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[newbie] SCSI Drive

[Job Evers]

I was just given an old computer that uses SCSI drives.  I have never worked with SCSI 
before.  When I boot it up it goes through the BIOS and then a black screen with:

BusLogic  Bios Version 4.96I
Intelligent Bus Master SCSI Host Adapter
(C) 1995BusLogic INC

And then it just sits there.

Any advice would be lovely.

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RE: [newbie] SCSI Detection problem

[Bernardo de Barros Franco]

Thanks for the response, unfortunately it did not work. After booting
expert and choosing the aic7xxx_old driver I had the same problem. 
Note: Booting with kernel 2.6 renders an error loading the module or
something like that.
Anyway, with the alt1 image (kernel 2.4) I could get as far as freezing
while trying to detect the HDs but this time I could see some response
of what it was trying to do:
(scsi0:0:0:1) Device reset, message buffer in use
SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid 1) timed out - trying harder
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0
SCSI host abort (pid 1) timed out - resetting
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0

These messages repeated over and over till I gave up. Btw, Suse 9 is
working perfectly and uses version 6.2.36 of the aic7xxx driver, which
is quite recent so I am not sure if it is related to the driver.

Appreciate any help,
Bernardo de Barros Franco 

-Original Message- 
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 08:45 pm, Bernardo de Barros Franco wrote:
| Hello,
|
| I have tried to install Mandrake 9 and 10 to no avail, they both
freeze
| after installing the module for the scsi controller, before (while?)
| detecting the scsi hds attached to it.
| The funny thing is that I got the installation cds for OpenBSD 3.3,
Suse
| 9 and Red Hat 7.3 all to detect my both HDs out of the box.
| My configuration (as lspci and dmesg from the Suse installation):
| 1 VIA-chipset motherboard with 512 RAM DDR400, a Pentium 4 1.8ghz
| processor, a CDROM on ide0 and a Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D SCSI
controller
| (id 7) that controls 2 IBM-PSG DNES-309170W 9.1Gb hard drives on ids 0
| and 1.
| After booting from the cd (Mandrake 10) and trying to install with the
| 2.6 kernel I get a error when insmodding the aic7xxx. Since I've read
| somewhere that that is expected with that kernel I try an alternate
boot
| image (the 2.4 kernel one). The module is installed ok (version
6.2.36)
| and detects AIC-7881U. My controller is found correctly but then when
it
| should list my HDs, it just stays there forever. I have tried 2
| different medias for the version 10 install and tried once other media
| with version 9 which had the exact same problem.
| I am feeling particularly frustrated since Suse 9 has apparently the
| same aic7xxx module version 6.2.36 and detects the HDs without any
| issues. As stated above the detection also was successful on Red Hat
7.3
| and OpenBSD 3.3, but I really would ratter use Mandrake ;)
|
| Thanks in advance,
| Bernardo de Barros Franco

You probably have one of the older Adaptec 2940 SCSI controllers.  They 
changed the drivers for their newer models a couple of years ago, and
the 
driver that Mandrake installs is the new driver, which doesn't work with
the 
old 2940.  Last I knew, the old driver was still on the disk, however,
and 
was listed as the aic7xxx_Old (or something similar).  To install this
driver 
you need to boot the install and type "expert" to get to the choices
which 
include the old driver.  The reason RH7.x works is they were still using
the 
old driver back then.  Probably ditto for BSD3--don't know about Suse.
The 
last Mandrake distro that installed the old driver as default was 8.2.
If  
you need more info, Google is you friend.

hth

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Detection problem

[Erylon Hines]

On Wednesday 16 June 2004 08:45 pm, Bernardo de Barros Franco wrote:
| Hello,
|
| I have tried to install Mandrake 9 and 10 to no avail, they both freeze
| after installing the module for the scsi controller, before (while?)
| detecting the scsi hds attached to it.
| The funny thing is that I got the installation cds for OpenBSD 3.3, Suse
| 9 and Red Hat 7.3 all to detect my both HDs out of the box.
| My configuration (as lspci and dmesg from the Suse installation):
| 1 VIA-chipset motherboard with 512 RAM DDR400, a Pentium 4 1.8ghz
| processor, a CDROM on ide0 and a Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D SCSI controller
| (id 7) that controls 2 IBM-PSG DNES-309170W 9.1Gb hard drives on ids 0
| and 1.
| After booting from the cd (Mandrake 10) and trying to install with the
| 2.6 kernel I get a error when insmodding the aic7xxx. Since I've read
| somewhere that that is expected with that kernel I try an alternate boot
| image (the 2.4 kernel one). The module is installed ok (version 6.2.36)
| and detects AIC-7881U. My controller is found correctly but then when it
| should list my HDs, it just stays there forever. I have tried 2
| different medias for the version 10 install and tried once other media
| with version 9 which had the exact same problem.
| I am feeling particularly frustrated since Suse 9 has apparently the
| same aic7xxx module version 6.2.36 and detects the HDs without any
| issues. As stated above the detection also was successful on Red Hat 7.3
| and OpenBSD 3.3, but I really would ratter use Mandrake ;)
|
| Thanks in advance,
| Bernardo de Barros Franco

You probably have one of the older Adaptec 2940 SCSI controllers.  They 
changed the drivers for their newer models a couple of years ago, and the 
driver that Mandrake installs is the new driver, which doesn't work with the 
old 2940.  Last I knew, the old driver was still on the disk, however, and 
was listed as the aic7xxx_Old (or something similar).  To install this driver 
you need to boot the install and type "expert" to get to the choices which 
include the old driver.  The reason RH7.x works is they were still using the 
old driver back then.  Probably ditto for BSD3--don't know about Suse.  The 
last Mandrake distro that installed the old driver as default was 8.2.  If  
you need more info, Google is you friend.

hth

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[newbie] SCSI Detection problem

[Bernardo de Barros Franco]

Hello,

I have tried to install Mandrake 9 and 10 to no avail, they both freeze
after installing the module for the scsi controller, before (while?)
detecting the scsi hds attached to it.
The funny thing is that I got the installation cds for OpenBSD 3.3, Suse
9 and Red Hat 7.3 all to detect my both HDs out of the box.
My configuration (as lspci and dmesg from the Suse installation):
1 VIA-chipset motherboard with 512 RAM DDR400, a Pentium 4 1.8ghz
processor, a CDROM on ide0 and a Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D SCSI controller
(id 7) that controls 2 IBM-PSG DNES-309170W 9.1Gb hard drives on ids 0
and 1.
After booting from the cd (Mandrake 10) and trying to install with the
2.6 kernel I get a error when insmodding the aic7xxx. Since I've read
somewhere that that is expected with that kernel I try an alternate boot
image (the 2.4 kernel one). The module is installed ok (version 6.2.36)
and detects AIC-7881U. My controller is found correctly but then when it
should list my HDs, it just stays there forever. I have tried 2
different medias for the version 10 install and tried once other media
with version 9 which had the exact same problem.
I am feeling particularly frustrated since Suse 9 has apparently the
same aic7xxx module version 6.2.36 and detects the HDs without any
issues. As stated above the detection also was successful on Red Hat 7.3
and OpenBSD 3.3, but I really would ratter use Mandrake ;)

PS: Reposting in plain-text, sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks in advance,
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[newbie] SCSI Detection problem

[Bernardo de Barros Franco]

Hello,

 

I have tried to install Mandrake 9 and 10 to no avail, they both freeze after installing the module for the scsi controller, before (while?) detecting the scsi hds attached to it.

The funny thing is that I got the installation cds for OpenBSD 3.3, Suse 9 and Red Hat 7.3 all to detect my both HDs out of the box.

My configuration (as lspci and dmesg from the Suse
installation):

1 VIA-chipset motherboard with 512 RAM DDR400, a Pentium 4
1.8ghz processor, a CDROM on ide0 and a Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D SCSI controller
(id 7) that controls 2 IBM-PSG DNES-309170W 9.1Gb hard drives on ids 0 and 1.

After booting from the cd (Mandrake
10) and trying to install with the 2.6 kernel I get a error
when insmodding the aic7xxx. Since I’ve read somewhere
that that is expected with that kernel I try an alternate boot image (the 2.4
kernel one). The module is installed ok (version 6.2.36) and detects AIC-7881U.
My controller is found correctly but then when it should list my HDs, it just stays there forever. I have tried 2 different medias for the version 10 install and tried once other media
with version 9 which had the exact same problem.

I am feeling particularly frustrated since Suse 9 has apparently the same aic7xxx module version
6.2.36 and detects the HDs without any issues. As
stated above the detection also was successful on Red Hat 7.3 and OpenBSD 3.3, but I really would ratter use Mandrake ;)

 

Thanks in advance,

Bernardo de Barros Franco

 

[newbie] SCSI problems (cont).

[Ronald J. Hall]

For some reason, the original reply attempt was bounced by the Mandrake Newbie 
mailing list. Here it is again:

>YG  It worked that way with Mandrake 7.0 and 8.0, now it shows these
> problems. YG
>YG  On some ocasions, when I boot into windows I connect a SCSI scanner or
>YG  another device to it. I don't use the SCSI card often under windows and
> never YG  under Linux. If I would never use it under windows I would just
> remove the card. YG
>YG  If somebody can tell me how I can tell the Kernel to just ignore this
> card YG  (without being able to boot this kernel of course) then I think I
> would be YG  happy.
>YG
>YG
>YG

Okay, then why not just hook the scanner up and leave it there? I'm using a 
SCSI scanner (Umax Astra 1200) with my Linux setup and it works fine. Sane 
should be able to use what you've got - what model is it? Why not just use 
Linux for your scanning needs and dump Windoze all together... 

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[newbie] SCSI Tape drive tuning

[Russ Kepler]

I have an HP SureStore 12000e tape drive I use for backup, and while it should 
be capable of 1MB/s it generally performs lower than that, most of the time 
at or around the 400KB/s rate (using 'dd bs=1M' to time things).  Is there 
someplace I could look for tuning ideas?

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Re: [newbie] scsi emulation

[Lee Wiggers]

On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:48:19 -0500
Lee Wiggers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:46:41 +
> John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Lee Wiggers wrote:
> > 
> > >I don't know how to set the scsi emulation.
> > >
> > 
> 
> Thank you for the help, but I have tried altering fstab to the
> point where I now get an error on boot and lost the original. 
> (sigh)
> 
> I changed lilo, ran lilo, and have diddled with fstab
> unmercifully.
> 
> I compared his lilo and fstab to mine and tried to ammend his to
> what I think it should be to be recognised, but to no avail.
> 
> I'll start by starting over and see what you all have to add.
> 
> Any more thoughts?
> 
> Lee
> > 
> > 
> 
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> 
Well, gcombust is working but somehow I wound up with 8 mounted
cdroms.

cdrom0 works perfectly, but have no idea how I got here.

Gotta love it.

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Re: [newbie] scsi emulation

[John Richard Smith]

Lee Wiggers wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:46:41 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Lee Wiggers wrote:

   

I don't know how to set the scsi emulation.

 


   

Thank you for the help, but I have tried altering fstab to the point
where I now get an error on boot and lost the original.  (sigh)
I changed lilo, ran lilo, and have diddled with fstab unmercifully.

I compared his lilo and fstab to mine and tried to ammend his to
what I think it should be to be recognised, but to no avail.
I'll start by starting over and see what you all have to add.

Any more thoughts?

Lee
 

Best thing you can do is post your /etc/lilo.conf and e/tc/fstab here 
and lets see what your've got ?

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Re: [newbie] scsi emulation

[Lee Wiggers]

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:46:41 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lee Wiggers wrote:
> 
> >I don't know how to set the scsi emulation.
> >
> 

Thank you for the help, but I have tried altering fstab to the point
where I now get an error on boot and lost the original.  (sigh)

I changed lilo, ran lilo, and have diddled with fstab unmercifully.

I compared his lilo and fstab to mine and tried to ammend his to
what I think it should be to be recognised, but to no avail.

I'll start by starting over and see what you all have to add.

Any more thoughts?

Lee
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] scsi emulation

[John Richard Smith]

Lee Wiggers wrote:

I don't know how to set the scsi emulation.

After the install, there is no scsi drive found.



Lee

 

Add to append line in /etc/lilo.conf

append=" hdc=ide-scsi"

The /etc/fstab may need altering if you want to mount it .

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Re: [newbie] scsi emulation

[Bryan Phinney]

On Friday 31 October 2003 07:43 am, Lee Wiggers wrote:
> I just installed a new burner in my brother's box, then learned how
> to use gcombust on mine so I could be a hero.
>
> Fell flat because I don't know how to set the scsi emulation.
>
> After the install, there is no scsi drive found.
>
> What did I miss?

You need to add the hd?=ide-scsi line to lilo.conf and reload lilo by issuing 
the lilo command.  When you install a new CDwriter drive, Mandrake does not 
detect and automatically set it up to emulate SCSI, you need to add the line 
manually to do that.


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[newbie] scsi emulation

[Lee Wiggers]

I just installed a new burner in my brother's box, then learned how
to use gcombust on mine so I could be a hero.

Fell flat because I don't know how to set the scsi emulation.

After the install, there is no scsi drive found.

What did I miss?

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Re: [newbie] scsi emulation and CD sources

[C. Tresenriter]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:15:27 +0100
DJ wrote:

|On Friday 10 Oct 2003 5:21 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote:
|> I've recently added scsi emulation for my ATAPI CDROM, would this be
|the> reason I see, "unable to retrieve pathname for removable medium"
|for all> CDs when I try urpmi?... and if so where do I change the path
|to scd1> for the sources?
|> Thanks
|
|You need to edit the line in /etc/fstab for your cdrom device
|Replace the /dev/hdc  (or whatever) with /dev/scd0  (or whatever)
|
|derek

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Re: [newbie] scsi emulation and CD sources

[Derek Jennings]

On Friday 10 Oct 2003 5:21 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote:
> I've recently added scsi emulation for my ATAPI CDROM, would this be the
> reason I see, "unable to retrieve pathname for removable medium" for all
> CDs when I try urpmi?... and if so where do I change the path to scd1
> for the sources?
> Thanks

You need to edit the line in /etc/fstab for your cdrom device
Replace the /dev/hdc  (or whatever) with /dev/scd0  (or whatever)

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[C. Tresenriter]

I've recently added scsi emulation for my ATAPI CDROM, would this be the
reason I see, "unable to retrieve pathname for removable medium" for all
CDs when I try urpmi?... and if so where do I change the path to scd1
for the sources?
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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Hello yet again John.

This morning when I booted I discovered that I no longer have access to
my CDRW drive!! I still get the two FAILED entries on boot up but now
they both end with mount 0 does not exist.

I checked my /dev directory and found no listing for either /hdb
or/scd1. However in my /mnt directory I find cdrw, cdrom, scd1, and
scd0.

Here'a my lilo.conf as it currently appears.

 boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
nowarn
timeout=150
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe devfs=nomount"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

and my fstab:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/cdrom supermount
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrw supermount
dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0
0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 

I still do not understand why my CDRW is there once or twice then
disappears. Yesterday I did a cold boot to make sure the CDRW was still
there and it was!! Then I logged off and shut down my computer for the
night. When I booted this morning my CDRW was inaccessible and has
disappeared from my Mandrake control center hardware list. Can anybody
tell me precisely why this keeps happening? And how I can prevent it in
the future?!?!

LTR  }}:{(

On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 15:31, John Drouhard wrote:

> Since your cd drives are working, I suggest you backup all your data,
> then upgrade to 9.1 doing a fresh install. Then everything will be fixed
> (Also, 9.1 automatically sets up SCSI emulation for detected burners). 
> 
> Hope you get it working!
> 
> John Drouhard


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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Drouhard]

On 23 Jun 2003 10:39:36 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello yet again John.
> 
> This morning when I booted I discovered that I no longer have access to
> my CDRW drive!! I still get the two FAILED entries on boot up but now
> they both end with mount 0 does not exist.
> 
> I checked my /dev directory and found no listing for either /hdb
> or/scd1. However in my /mnt directory I find cdrw, cdrom, scd1, and
> scd0.
> 

That is beyond me. Since I have 2 CD's which are both scsi emulated and
working properly, Here is your fstab with MY fstab's two cdrom entries.
Try this fstab, if that still doesn't work, delete the supermount word
from both lines and try again. If you do delete the supoermount word
from fstab, you have to type mount -a as root to get them to mount
(There will be an error if you don't have a cd in both drives. You DON'T
need to mount a blank cdr for burning.  Anyway, here it is:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,unhide,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 

I suggest that when it is working properly, immediately back up your
stuff before you shut your computer down. Then, you can do a full
install of Mandrake 9.1.

John Drouhard


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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Drouhard]

On 22 Jun 2003 17:54:27 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OK John, I copied the new fstab file you provided to the etc directory. 
> 
> On boot up I now get two FAILED lines. 
> 
> The first one reads:
> Supermount error (device 0/12) supermount_read_sup er:no dev:  system> option
> 
> The second reads:
> Mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock or none, or too many
> mounted file systems 
> 
> However the two drives appear to be working as expected.
> 
> My CD ROM drive now appears as device scd0 in the hardware list.
> Mount point: /mnt/cdrom 
> Device: scd0
> Type: auto
> Options: supermount,ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,mask=0 
> 
> My CDRW drive once again appears on my mandrake command center twice,
> once as /dev/hdb and once as /dev/scd1. 
> For mount point it says /mnt/cdrw. 
> Device is scd1 
> Type auto 
> Options supermount,ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,unmask=0
> 
> Again thanks for the unbelievable amount of assistance. Believe me it is
> truly appreciated!!

Since your cd drives are working, I suggest you backup all your data,
then upgrade to 9.1 doing a fresh install. Then everything will be fixed
(Also, 9.1 automatically sets up SCSI emulation for detected burners). 

Hope you get it working!

John Drouhard

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

OK John, I copied the new fstab file you provided to the etc directory. 

On boot up I now get two FAILED lines. 

The first one reads:
Supermount error (device 0/12) supermount_read_sup er:no dev:  option

The second reads:
Mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock or none, or too many
mounted file systems 

However the two drives appear to be working as expected.

My CD ROM drive now appears as device scd0 in the hardware list.
Mount point: /mnt/cdrom 
Device: scd0
Type: auto
Options: supermount,ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,mask=0 

My CDRW drive once again appears on my mandrake command center twice,
once as /dev/hdb and once as /dev/scd1. 
For mount point it says /mnt/cdrw. 
Device is scd1 
Type auto 
Options supermount,ro,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,unmask=0

Again thanks for the unbelievable amount of assistance. Believe me it is
truly appreciated!!

LTR  }}:{(
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On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 10:21, John Drouhard wrote:

> Aha! make this your fstab:
> 
> /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
> none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
> dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
> none /mnt/cdrw supermount 
> dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
> none /mnt/floppy supermount
> dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
> /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
> 
> Save it, reboot, and then open /mnt/cdrw for your cdrw drive, and /mnt/cdrom 
> will be your scsi drive. This will work. If it doesn't, then I don't
> know what the heck is going wrong.
> 
> I seriously hope this helps.
> 
> John Drouhard


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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Drouhard]

On 22 Jun 2003 14:03:26 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi John, 
> 
> The hardware list I was referring to is the one in the Mandrake Control
> Center. I'm running 8.2. Part of the reason for wanting to get my CDRW
> working is so that I can backup many files before upgrading to 9.1. 
> Mount -a at this point simply takes me back to a command line cursor. I
> have a very old 1X SCSI CD ROM drive, but not a CDRW). At this point it
> is listed in MCC hardware list as scd0. The mount point for it at this
> time is hdb. Opening /mnt/hdb reads from my stone-age 1X CD ROM drive!


Aha! make this your fstab:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrw supermount 
dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

Save it, reboot, and then open /mnt/cdrw for your cdrw drive, and /mnt/cdrom 
will be your scsi drive. This will work. If it doesn't, then I don't
know what the heck is going wrong.

I seriously hope this helps.

John Drouhard


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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Hi John, 

The hardware list I was referring to is the one in the Mandrake Control Center. I'm running 8.2. Part of the reason for wanting to get my CDRW working is so that I can backup many files before upgrading to 9.1.  Mount -a at this point simply takes me back to a command line cursor. I have a very old 1X SCSI CD ROM drive, but not a CDRW). At this point it is listed in MCC hardware list as scd0. The mount point for it at this time is hdb. Opening /mnt/hdb reads from my stone-age 1X CD ROM drive!



LTR  }}:{(





On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 07:54, John Drouhard wrote:



May I ask what "hardware list" you are talking about? Is it harddrake?
Or dmesg? I am beginning to think that you may need to reinstall linux.
What version are you running? Try typing mount -a as root in a terminal.
Then check /mnt/hdb when you have a cd in the drive. If it's empty or
not accessible, then there is something wrong. Oh ya, what is your
/dev/scd0? Do you have another scsi device that isn't a cd? If you do,
change your fstab so that the dev=/dev/scd0 becomes /dev/scd1.

John Drouhard

Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Drouhard]

On 22 Jun 2003 11:41:04 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi John. 
> 
> When I logged on this morning after checking my email I checked the
> status of my CDRW drive. To my dismay I discovered that I no longer have
> a working CDRW, either as supermount or as SCSI. It no longer appears on
> my hardware list at all and is completely unavailable. 
> 
> You asked for my fstab and lilo files which I'm including below. 
> 
> My fstab currently (following reboot this AM) reads:
> 
>  /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
> none /mnt/hdb supermount
> dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
> none /mnt/floppy supermount
> dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0
> 0
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
> /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
> 

May I ask what "hardware list" you are talking about? Is it harddrake?
Or dmesg? I am beginning to think that you may need to reinstall linux.
What version are you running? Try typing mount -a as root in a terminal.
Then check /mnt/hdb when you have a cd in the drive. If it's empty or
not accessible, then there is something wrong. Oh ya, what is your
/dev/scd0? Do you have another scsi device that isn't a cd? If you do,
change your fstab so that the dev=/dev/scd0 becomes /dev/scd1.

John Drouhard


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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Hi John. 

When I logged on this morning after checking my email I checked the status of my CDRW drive. To my dismay I discovered that I no longer have a working CDRW, either as supermount or as SCSI. It no longer appears on my hardware list at all and is completely unavailable. 

You asked for my fstab and lilo files which I'm including below. 

My fstab currently (following reboot this AM) reads:

 /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

My lilo.conf reads:

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
nowarn
timeout=150
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
	label=linux
	root=/dev/hda6
	initrd=/boot/initrd.img
	append="devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi"
	read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
	label=failsafe
	root=/dev/hda6
	initrd=/boot/initrd.img
	append="failsafe devfs=nomount"
	read-only
other=/dev/hda1
	label=windows
	table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
	label=floppy
	unsafe

I don't understand why my CDRW keeps disappearing!?!  When I rebooted last night with the new fstab file the CDRW was recognized by the system and was usable by the xcdroast program. I did not intentionally change anything after that reboot and yet when I rebooted this AM my CDRW was gone?!?! 



LTR  }}:{(




On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 02:07, John Richard Smith wrote:

Langsley T Russell wrote:

> BINGO John!!
>
> I once again have my CDRW in my hardware list. Once again it appears 
> twice, once as hdb and once as scd1. I opened xcdroast and it too sees 
> the Samsung CDRW drive.
>
> Now I must ask if I should leave both entries for the CDRW in my 
> hardware list? I checked mount points and the CDRW is mounted as scd1. 
> Is that as it should be?
>
> Thank you so much, John! I am forever in your debt.
>
> LTR  }}:{(   
Langsley,

If I understand you correcty you have a working writer, both 
supermounted and scsi-emulated.
Can yopu kindly post both your relevent lilo.conf and fstab entries , 
for the device, so that we can see what does what.

thanks,

John

Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

BINGO John!! 

I once again have my CDRW in my hardware list. Once again it appears twice, once as hdb and once as scd1. I opened xcdroast and it too sees the Samsung CDRW drive. 

Now I must ask if I should leave both entries for the CDRW in my hardware list? I checked mount points and the CDRW is mounted as scd1. Is that as it should be?

Thank you so much, John! I am forever in your debt. 



LTR  }}:{(






On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 16:09, John Drouhard wrote:

> hdb=ide-scsi
> ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
Here's where it says that lilo set up scsi emulation properly.

> hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
Here is where it says that hdb is in fact your cdrw drive

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

Now, make this your fstab, save it, and reboot. Afterwards, you should
have scsi-em working like a charm!!

I am anxious to see how this turns out, please let me know as soon as
possible. :)

John Drouhard

Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Drouhard]

On 21 Jun 2003 20:44:00 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I sent this earlier but I haven't seen it show up on the list. If it
> comes through twice I apologize.
> 
> OK, John, I believe I did everything as directed. 
> 
> Below is the new results of dmesg | grep hd
t
> hdb=ide-scsi
> ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
Here's where it says that lilo set up scsi emulation properly.

> hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
Here is where it says that hdb is in fact your cdrw drive

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/hdb supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

Now, make this your fstab, save it, and reboot. Afterwards, you should
have scsi-em working like a charm!!

I am anxious to see how this turns out, please let me know as soon as
possible. :)

John Drouhard

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

OK, John, I believe I did everything as directed. 

Below is the new results of dmesg | grep hd

[EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi
ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100)

Yes, I've learned more about the Linux OS in the last few days than in all the months I've been running Linux.

What's next?? 

Again thanks for all the help. I would hgiven up long ago without the help I've gotten here.



LTR  }}:{(
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On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 13:28, John Drouhard wrote:

On 21 Jun 2003 18:03:13 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here it is John.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount
> hdb=ide-scsi
> ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
> hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
> hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63,
> UDMA(100) 

It's not even recognizing your cdrw drive as being there. Make this your fstab:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

Change it to that, save it, then edit your lilo.conf so your append line
DOES NOT have the scsi em thing. Then run lilo as root, and then reboot
your computer. Once you've done all this, run dmesg | grep hd again.
Then give us the results of that. We will then walk you through how to
set up sci-em, once again, correctly.

I imagine you've learned a lot about linux through this experience. :)

John Drouhard

Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

I sent this earlier but I haven't seen it show up on the list. If it comes through twice I apologize.

OK, John, I believe I did everything as directed. 

Below is the new results of dmesg | grep hd

[EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi
ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
hdb: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100)

Yes, I've learned more about the Linux OS in the last few days than in all the months I've been running Linux.

What's next?? 

Again thanks for all the help. I would hgiven up long ago without the help I've gotten here.








LTR  }}:{(

~~~

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On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 13:28, John Drouhard wrote: 

On 21 Jun 2003 18:03:13 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here it is John.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount
> hdb=ide-scsi
> ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
> hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
> hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63,
> UDMA(100) 

It's not even recognizing your cdrw drive as being there. Make this your fstab:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

Change it to that, save it, then edit your lilo.conf so your append line
DOES NOT have the scsi em thing. Then run lilo as root, and then reboot
your computer. Once you've done all this, run dmesg | grep hd again.
Then give us the results of that. We will then walk you through how to
set up sci-em, once again, correctly.

I imagine you've learned a lot about linux through this experience. :)

John Drouhard

Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Drouhard]

On 21 Jun 2003 18:03:13 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here it is John.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount
> hdb=ide-scsi
> ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
> hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
> hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63,
> UDMA(100) 

It's not even recognizing your cdrw drive as being there. Make this your fstab:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/hdb supermount 
dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

Change it to that, save it, then edit your lilo.conf so your append line
DOES NOT have the scsi em thing. Then run lilo as root, and then reboot
your computer. Once you've done all this, run dmesg | grep hd again.
Then give us the results of that. We will then walk you through how to
set up sci-em, once again, correctly.

I imagine you've learned a lot about linux through this experience. :)

John Drouhard


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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Here it is John.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ dmesg | grep hd
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=306 devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi
ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa000-0xa007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa008-0xa00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
hda: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive
hda: 30003120 sectors (15362 MB) w/1916KiB Cache, CHS=29765/16/63, UDMA(100) 



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On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 12:36, John Drouhard wrote:

Could you give us the output of this command:

dmesg | grep hd

Copy and paste this into a terminal. This will help us to help you
configure your fstab properly.

HTH,
John Drouhard

Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Drouhard]

On 21 Jun 2003 17:01:25 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi again John.
> 
> I managed to do a copy and paste to my etc directory by copying the new
> fstab to my tmp directory as user and then copying and pasting it into
> my etc directory as root. What follows is what I got when I typed mount
> -a in a terminal as root.
> 
> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
> mount: No medium found
> mount: mount point 0 does not exist
> mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
> mount: mount point 0 does not exist
> 
> That means nothing to me but I'm hoping it will to you. I don't see
> anything there which appears to be my CDRW drive but then as I said , it
> means nothing, or I guess I should say very little, to me. My old SCSI
> CD ROM drive is listed in the hardware list as scd0 so I doubt that that
> is it. I also opened xcdroast and the CDRW does not appear there.
> 
Could you give us the output of this command:

dmesg | grep hd

Copy and paste this into a terminal. This will help us to help you
configure your fstab properly.

HTH,
John Drouhard

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Hi John. 

I tried typing eject /dev for /hda, /hdb, /hdc, and /hdd. None of the commands ever ejected or opened anything.  this is the response I got to each of the commands.

eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/hdb'

These are the responses I got when I tried eject /dev/scd1 and /scd0

eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/scd1'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] langsley]$ eject /dev/scd0
eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument 



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On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 16:12, John Drouhard wrote:

I have a suggestion. Try typing eject /dev/hda. If it can't find eject,
then install it with urpmi eject. Once it's installed, type eject
/dev/hda, eject /dev/hdb, eject /dev/hdc, and eject /dev/hdd. All as
separate commands. Then tell us which command opens your cdrw drive (and
your regular cd drive if you have one). Then we can just give you a new
fstab and lilo.conf file.

Hope you get this working!

John Drouhard 

Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Hi again John.

I managed to do a copy and paste to my etc directory by copying the new fstab to my tmp directory as user and then copying and pasting it into my etc directory as root. What follows is what I got when I typed mount -a in a terminal as root.

mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: No medium found
mount: mount point 0 does not exist
mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
mount: mount point 0 does not exist

That means nothing to me but I'm hoping it will to you. I don't see anything there which appears to be my CDRW drive but then as I said , it means nothing, or I guess I should say very little, to me. My old SCSI CD ROM drive is listed in the hardware list as scd0 so I doubt that that is it. I also opened xcdroast and the CDRW does not appear there.



LTR  }}:{(





On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 11:43, John Richard Smith wrote:

Langsley T Russell wrote:

> Hi again John.
>
> I edited the fstab file as you suggested. The contents appears below.
>
> /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
> /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount 
> dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
> /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount 
> dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
> /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
>
>  
>
OK, Langsley, I think it's time to start dropping supermount, maybe you 
have the same problem with supermount as me. S0 I would like you to copy 
this script ,


/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0


into a fresh new text file on desktop , do this by moving the cursor 
over a blank spot on desktop, rightmouse click down to create new - text 
file, and name it fatab, then  move the cursor over the icon of the new 
fstab textfile and roghtmouse click- down to open with text editor, and 
choose one, say kwrite , and then sweep the text I have given you here 
with the mouse cursor and move the cursor over the open fstab text file 
left mouse click to position, and then press middle mouse button, and 
all the copyied text will fill out onto the page, then save and exit.

You then have a new fstab file .
Go to /etc directory in konqueror window and rename the existing fstab 
file fstab1, then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory.

in a terminal , type, mount -a

and see if that gives you a writer

test by putting up something like xcdroast and see if it appears in the 
device list.

or type in terminal,

cdrecord -scanbus, and see what it says,

John

Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[RichardA]

On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:30:13 +0100, John Richard Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Langsley T Russell wrote:
> 
> > OK John.
> >
> > I've done everything up to " /then copy your new fstab file to /etc 
> > directory./" The only way I could find to change the name of the
> > fstab file to fstab1 was to log on as root. When logged on as root
> > none of my desktop files from my standard session are available. So
> > there is nothing to copy. when I log back on as user I am denied
> > permission to edit the etc file. If I can't manage to do that I
> > guess I'll have to undo the name change to fstab/fstab1. how can I
> > accomplish this crucial step?
> >
> > LTR  }}:{(
> >>
> Can you copy to a floppy,
> 
> Better still copy new fstab to one of those fat32/vfat partitions that
> you already have a line in your existing fstab, then logon as root,
> then you should be able to make the necessary change in /etc
> directory.  All this ought to be done as root anyway. you are
> constructing system files for universal use, not some oddjob user
> task.
> 
> I could get you into a root terminal but then you will have to issue 
> root commands which is more difficult for the newbie. Can you logon as
> root  to a root desktop ?
> 
> John

If you log in as root, open an editor and go to /home//Desktop to
find your file?
Or log in as a user, open a terminal, 'su' to root. Then get clever
with 'cp' and 'mv', or run your editor from the terminal (so it runs
as root) and make changes that way.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Drouhard]

I have a suggestion. Try typing eject /dev/hda. If it can't find eject,
then install it with urpmi eject. Once it's installed, type eject
/dev/hda, eject /dev/hdb, eject /dev/hdc, and eject /dev/hdd. All as
separate commands. Then tell us which command opens your cdrw drive (and
your regular cd drive if you have one). Then we can just give you a new
fstab and lilo.conf file.

Hope you get this working!

John Drouhard

On 18 Jun 2003 10:54:10 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks to a great deal of help from people here, primarily "the two
> Johns", Yesterday I actually managed to "burn" two CDs using Xxcdroast.
> 
> Today when I logged on I got two failure lines in my mandrake boot info.
> They were both for scd1. They both said FAILED scd1 does not exist. 
> 
> I checked in MCC to see if the CDRW drive is still listed and it is not.
> When I logged off yesterday it was there twice, once as hdb and once as
> scd1. 
> 
> At this point I'm unable to access the drive at all. So I've actually
> taken a step backward. When I started the device at least appeared in
> the hardware list as a CD ROM and I could use it as a reader.
> 
> Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do they
> give a clue as to what the problem is?
> 
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> vga=normal
> default=linux
> keytable=/boot/us.klt
> lba32
> prompt
> nowarn
> timeout=150
> message=/boot/message
> menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>   label=linux
>   root=/dev/hda6
>   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
>   append="devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi"
>   read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>   label=failsafe
>   root=/dev/hda6
>   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
>   append="failsafe devfs=nomount"
>   read-only
> other=/dev/hda1
>   label=windows
>   table=/dev/hda
> other=/dev/fd0
>   label=floppy
>   unsafe
> 
> fstab currently reads:
> 
> /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
> /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount 
> dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
> /mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0
> /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount 
> dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0
> /dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
> /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
> 
> Again thanks for all the help with this.
> 
> LTR  }}:{(
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Richard Smith]

Langsley T Russell wrote:

OK John.

I've done everything up to " /then copy your new fstab file to /etc 
directory./" The only way I could find to change the name of the fstab 
file to fstab1 was to log on as root. When logged on as root none of 
my desktop files from my standard session are available. So there is 
nothing to copy. when I log back on as user I am denied permission to 
edit the etc file. If I can't manage to do that I guess I'll have to 
undo the name change to fstab/fstab1. how can I accomplish this 
crucial step?

LTR  }}:{(

 

On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 11:43, John Richard Smith wrote:

/OK, Langsley, I think it's time to start dropping supermount, maybe you 
have the same problem with supermount as me. S0 I would like you to copy 
this script ,

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

into a fresh new text file on desktop , do this by moving the cursor 
over a blank spot on desktop, rightmouse click down to create new - text 
file, and name it fatab, then  move the cursor over the icon of the new 
fstab textfile and roghtmouse click- down to open with text editor, and 
choose one, say kwrite , and then sweep the text I have given you here 
with the mouse cursor and move the cursor over the open fstab text file 
left mouse click to position, and then press middle mouse button, and 
all the copyied text will fill out onto the page, then save and exit.

You then have a new fstab file .
Go to /etc directory in konqueror window and rename the existing fstab 
file fstab1, then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory.

in a terminal , type, mount -a

and see if that gives you a writer

test by putting up something like xcdroast and see if it appears in the 
device list.

or type in terminal,

cdrecord -scanbus, and see what it says,

John/

Can you copy to a floppy,

Better still copy new fstab to one of those fat32/vfat partitions that 
you already have a line in your existing fstab, then logon as root, then 
you should be able to make the necessary change in /etc directory.  All 
this ought to be done as root anyway. you are constructing system files 
for universal use, not some oddjob user task.

I could get you into a root terminal but then you will have to issue 
root commands which is more difficult for the newbie. Can you logon as 
root  to a root desktop ?

John

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

OK John. 

I've done everything up to " then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory." The only way I could find to change the name of the fstab file to fstab1 was to log on as root. When logged on as root none of my desktop files from my standard session are available. So there is nothing to copy. when I log back on as user I am denied permission to edit the etc file. If I can't manage to do that I guess I'll have to undo the name change to fstab/fstab1. how can I accomplish this crucial step?



LTR  }}:{(





On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 11:43, John Richard Smith wrote:

OK, Langsley, I think it's time to start dropping supermount, maybe you 
have the same problem with supermount as me. S0 I would like you to copy 
this script ,


/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0


into a fresh new text file on desktop , do this by moving the cursor 
over a blank spot on desktop, rightmouse click down to create new - text 
file, and name it fatab, then  move the cursor over the icon of the new 
fstab textfile and roghtmouse click- down to open with text editor, and 
choose one, say kwrite , and then sweep the text I have given you here 
with the mouse cursor and move the cursor over the open fstab text file 
left mouse click to position, and then press middle mouse button, and 
all the copyied text will fill out onto the page, then save and exit.

You then have a new fstab file .
Go to /etc directory in konqueror window and rename the existing fstab 
file fstab1, then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory.

in a terminal , type, mount -a

and see if that gives you a writer

test by putting up something like xcdroast and see if it appears in the 
device list.

or type in terminal,

cdrecord -scanbus, and see what it says,

John

Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Richard Smith]

Langsley T Russell wrote:

Hi again John.

I edited the fstab file as you suggested. The contents appears below.

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

 

OK, Langsley, I think it's time to start dropping supermount, maybe you 
have the same problem with supermount as me. S0 I would like you to copy 
this script ,

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

into a fresh new text file on desktop , do this by moving the cursor 
over a blank spot on desktop, rightmouse click down to create new - text 
file, and name it fatab, then  move the cursor over the icon of the new 
fstab textfile and roghtmouse click- down to open with text editor, and 
choose one, say kwrite , and then sweep the text I have given you here 
with the mouse cursor and move the cursor over the open fstab text file 
left mouse click to position, and then press middle mouse button, and 
all the copyied text will fill out onto the page, then save and exit.

You then have a new fstab file .
Go to /etc directory in konqueror window and rename the existing fstab 
file fstab1, then copy your new fstab file to /etc directory.

in a terminal , type, mount -a

and see if that gives you a writer

test by putting up something like xcdroast and see if it appears in the 
device list.

or type in terminal,

cdrecord -scanbus, and see what it says,

John

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Hi again John. 

I edited the fstab file as you suggested. The contents appears below. 

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
 
I rebooted following the change and did not get the two "FAILED" lines.

I then checked with MCC and there is no listing for my CDRW drive in the hardware list. 

I also checked my mount directory and CDRW appears there as does scd1 and hdb. 

My old SCSI, CD ROM drive is listed as scd0 .

At this time the CDRW is still completely unavailable. 



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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Richard Smith]

Langsley T Russell wrote:

Hi again John.

I made the additional change you suggested to my lilo,conf file it now 
reads,
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe devfs=nomount hdb=ide-scsi"
read-only
Yep those are correct.



But still no CDRW drive. When I rebooted just now, I got the same  
"FAILED  special device /dev/scd1 does not exist" again. I checked 
/dev to see if there is a scd1 there and there is not. Nor is there an 
hdb.
It has to be that line in your fstab about the scd1 which of course you 
don't have. your first scsi-emulated device is always scd0,



I'm as certain as I can be that I have the jumpers set correctly. I 
did change the jumpers on the CDRW to slave when I installed it. Also 
I was able to access the CDRW drive and even "burn" a couple of CDs 
before logging off. yesterday. 
I'm not sure about this, cann't see why one cannot have a harddrive and 
a writer on the same ide line, just so long as they are either cable 
select of set master and slave, and as you say it has worked once. If 
removing the scd1 line from fstab doesn't make it work then, like me , I 
think I would try automount first before rushing out to buy another ide 
cable. It is quite easy to auto mount , you just # out the supermount 
line, and then write the automount line, which I have given you but I 
can easily do that again for you.

Now the drive doesn't appear on my hardware list.  Perhaps a separate 
cable is the only answer??
this is suggesting to me that something is confusing the system as to 
what is what.

OK post your fstab again here and let me see how it now is after you 
have removed that bit about scd1.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 9:21 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
> Hi Anne.
>
> I did as you recommended and removed the hdb line from my fstab
> file. I didn't alter the scd1 line because I don't know what I'm
> doing so I have no idea just how it should be edited.
>
> BTW both /hdb and /scd1 appear as subdirectories of my mnt
> directory but neither appears in my dev directory.
>
In mine, under /dev/cdroms I have cdrom0 and cdrom1, both of which are 
links.  cdrom0, for instance points to 
../ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd.  It is my cd/dvd, which is not 
scsi-emulated, so is mounted as /mnt/cdrom from hdb in fstab 
(unusual, but that's another story).  cdrom1 points to 
../scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/cd.  This is my cd-rw, which is 
scsi-emulated.

I would expect your actual scsi drive to be scd0, and the cd-rw to be 
scd1.  Does that explain it any better?  My fstab lines are

none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0
none /mnt/cdrw supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0

hdb and scd0 are block devices under /dev, not subdirectories.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Hi Anne.

I did as you recommended and removed the hdb line from my fstab file. I
didn't alter the scd1 line because I don't know what I'm doing so I have
no idea just how it should be edited.

BTW both /hdb and /scd1 appear as subdirectories of my mnt directory but
neither appears in my dev directory.

Does this offer any insight??

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> On Wednesday 18 Jun 2003 4:54 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
> >
> > Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do
> > they give a clue as to what the problem is?
> >
> > boot=/dev/hda
> > map=/boot/map
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > vga=normal
> > default=linux
> > keytable=/boot/us.klt
> > lba32
> > prompt
> > nowarn
> > timeout=150
> > message=/boot/message
> > menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=linux
> > root=/dev/hda6
> > initrd=/boot/initrd.img
> > append="devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi"
> > read-only
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=failsafe
> > root=/dev/hda6
> > initrd=/boot/initrd.img
> > append="failsafe devfs=nomount"
> > read-only
> > other=/dev/hda1
> > label=windows
> > table=/dev/hda
> > other=/dev/fd0
> > label=floppy
> > unsafe
> >
> This looks absolutely normal to me.
> 
> > fstab currently reads:
> >
> > /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
> > none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> > none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> > /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
> > /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount
> > 
> dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 
> 0 0 
> 
> > /mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0
> This is mounting your cd-rw without scsi-em
> 
> > /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount 
> dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0
> Your genuine scsi drive
> 
> > /dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0 
> And here is your cd-rw again!
> 
> > /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850
> > 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat
> > iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc
> > defaults 0 0
> > /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
> >
> It seems to me that this is what's causing the confusion.  I would get 
> rid of the line that refers to hdb.  The /mnt/scd1 line should work 
> then, though you may want to make it more like the scd0 line.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Hi again John. 

I made the additional change you suggested to my lilo,conf file it now reads,
image=/boot/vmlinuz
	    label=linux
    	root=/dev/hda6
    	initrd=/boot/initrd.img
    	append="devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi"
	read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
    	label=failsafe
    	root=/dev/hda6
    	initrd=/boot/initrd.img
    	append="failsafe devfs=nomount hdb=ide-scsi"
    	read-only

But still no CDRW drive. When I rebooted just now, I got the same  "FAILED  special device /dev/scd1 does not exist" again. I checked /dev to see if there is a scd1 there and there is not. Nor is there an hdb. 

I'm as certain as I can be that I have the jumpers set correctly. I did change the jumpers on the CDRW to slave when I installed it. Also I was able to access the CDRW drive and even "burn" a couple of CDs before logging off. yesterday. Now the drive doesn't appear on my hardware list.  Perhaps a separate cable is the only answer?? 



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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 18 Jun 2003 4:54 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
>
> Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do
> they give a clue as to what the problem is?
>
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> vga=normal
> default=linux
> keytable=/boot/us.klt
> lba32
> prompt
> nowarn
> timeout=150
> message=/boot/message
> menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>   label=linux
>   root=/dev/hda6
>   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
>   append="devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi"
>   read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>   label=failsafe
>   root=/dev/hda6
>   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
>   append="failsafe devfs=nomount"
>   read-only
> other=/dev/hda1
>   label=windows
>   table=/dev/hda
> other=/dev/fd0
>   label=floppy
>   unsafe
>
This looks absolutely normal to me.

> fstab currently reads:
>
> /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
> /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount
> 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 
0 0 

> /mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0
This is mounting your cd-rw without scsi-em

> /mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0
Your genuine scsi drive

> /dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0 
And here is your cd-rw again!

> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850
> 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat
> iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc
> defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
>
It seems to me that this is what's causing the confusion.  I would get 
rid of the line that refers to hdb.  The /mnt/scd1 line should work 
then, though you may want to make it more like the scd0 line.

HTH

Anne

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Richard Smith]

Langsley T Russell wrote:

Hi John and Tony. 

I do indeed have my CDRW mounted as hdb. I did this only because I
didn't have a spare cable lying around and did have the unused connector
on my HD cable. Therefore I believe that the hdb ID is accurate if not
correct.
I see, that's fair enough, if just a litle unconventional.

I actually had the CDRW working again yesterday  but when I rebooted
this morning, I once got the failed does not exist at boot up and the
CDRW drive has once again disappeared from my hardware list in MCC.
John you said:

 

	read-only
   

image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe devfs=nomount"
 

add the hdd-ide-scsi to this append line as well.
   

Does that go within the quotes? 

like this,

append="failsafe devfs=nomount hdb=ide-scsi"  

And will that solve my problem or must I
go out and get an additional cable and make my CDRW either hdc or hdd in
order to get this working properly?
Don't think so, though I've never actually done it your way. is the 
harddrive set at master , and the writer set as slave ? becuse if they 
are both set as master , oops it will not like that. One has to be 
master make that the hard drive, one slave. If that does not work buy a 
new cable, they don't cost that much.

Tony, you asked if I had modified my fstab file myself. No I did not. To
the best of my knowledge the scd0 is my actual SCSI CD ROM drive. hdb
and scd1 are however both referring to my new CDRW drive. Do I need to
alter this? if so, what should it say? and yes both scd1 and scd0 exist
in /dev & /mnt?
 

I didn't think it was your work. In my experience it loked like the 
installers work.I've had some wonderful entries myself recently.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Hi John and Tony. 

I do indeed have my CDRW mounted as hdb. I did this only because I
didn't have a spare cable lying around and did have the unused connector
on my HD cable. Therefore I believe that the hdb ID is accurate if not
correct.

I actually had the CDRW working again yesterday  but when I rebooted
this morning, I once got the failed does not exist at boot up and the
CDRW drive has once again disappeared from my hardware list in MCC.

John you said:
 
>   read-only
> >image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=failsafe
> > root=/dev/hda6
> > initrd=/boot/initrd.img
> > append="failsafe devfs=nomount"
> >
> add the hdd-ide-scsi to this append line as well.

Does that go within the quotes? And will that solve my problem or must I
go out and get an additional cable and make my CDRW either hdc or hdd in
order to get this working properly?

Tony, you asked if I had modified my fstab file myself. No I did not. To
the best of my knowledge the scd0 is my actual SCSI CD ROM drive. hdb
and scd1 are however both referring to my new CDRW drive. Do I need to
alter this? if so, what should it say? and yes both scd1 and scd0 exist
in /dev & /mnt?

Again thanks for all your help. 

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RE: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Tony S. Sykes]

Quick check does scd1 and scd0 exist in /dev & /mnt? Did you manually
change your fstab, as it looks kinda bad as it has scd0 and scd1 as well
as hdb being mounted which I assume are all the same device. lilo looks
okay to me though.

Tony.

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To: MDK-LIST
Subject: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again


Thanks to a great deal of help from people here, primarily "the two
Johns", Yesterday I actually managed to "burn" two CDs using Xxcdroast.

Today when I logged on I got two failure lines in my mandrake boot info.
They were both for scd1. They both said FAILED scd1 does not exist. 

I checked in MCC to see if the CDRW drive is still listed and it is not.
When I logged off yesterday it was there twice, once as hdb and once as
scd1. 

At this point I'm unable to access the drive at all. So I've actually
taken a step backward. When I started the device at least appeared in
the hardware list as a CD ROM and I could use it as a reader.

Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do they
give a clue as to what the problem is?

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
nowarn
timeout=150
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe devfs=nomount"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

fstab currently reads:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0
0
/mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0
/mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0
/dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

Again thanks for all the help with this.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[John Richard Smith]

Langsley T Russell wrote:

Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do they
give a clue as to what the problem is?
boot=/dev/hda

say's that the lilo boot device lies in your MBR

map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
nowarn
timeout=150
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi"
I doubt whether hdb=ide-scsi is correct.
hda = your first hard drive,
hdb = your second hard drive if you have one, but is reserved for such,
hdc = your cdrom or dvd , if configured " master"
hdd = your writer if configured  "slave" (determined by jumpers on the 
back of your dives)

so assuming your cdrom is master and writer is slave, I would guess that 
your writer is hdd, therefore the correct entry in the append line is 
hdd=ide-scsi. If your writer is configured master then the correct line 
is hdc=ide-scsi.

Get this correct and your home and dry.

read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe devfs=nomount"
add the hdd-ide-scsi to this append line as well.

read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
your windblows boot script,

other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe
In case you ever need to tell it where the boot floppy is.

fstab currently reads:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1

where your mandrake OS is

none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0

I've never known what this does, someone please explain

none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0

nor this

/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2

home partition

/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0

this is supermount on your floppy drive, fine if it works.

/mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0
/mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount 

well it's trying to supermount a scsi-em hdb, as explained I think this 
should be /mnt/hdd and /dev/=/dev/hdd if you want supermounted scsi-em 
drive.

dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 0 0

I don't know what this is and it's wrong anyway. I would remove it.

/dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0

Again I don't know what this is so I would remove it.

/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0

Your windblows OS

/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0

Looks like a Fat32 partition

none /proc proc defaults 0 0

This is always there but I don't know exactly what it does

/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

swap partition.

I think all your've got to do is remove the nonsense lines, and amend 
the hdb to something like hdd, and make sure  they are  identicle in 
both fstab and lilo.conf and it will likely work in supermount, if not, 
then like me and my machine it will have to be automount, in which case 
the fstab entries will have to be changed. Supermount is flakey on some 
machines.

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[newbie] SCSI Em- Again

[Langsley T Russell]

Thanks to a great deal of help from people here, primarily "the two
Johns", Yesterday I actually managed to "burn" two CDs using Xxcdroast.

Today when I logged on I got two failure lines in my mandrake boot info.
They were both for scd1. They both said FAILED scd1 does not exist. 

I checked in MCC to see if the CDRW drive is still listed and it is not.
When I logged off yesterday it was there twice, once as hdb and once as
scd1. 

At this point I'm unable to access the drive at all. So I've actually
taken a step backward. When I started the device at least appeared in
the hardware list as a CD ROM and I could use it as a reader.

Below are the contents of my /ect/lilo.conf and fstab files. Do they
give a clue as to what the problem is?

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
nowarn
timeout=150
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe devfs=nomount"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

fstab currently reads:

/dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/mnt/hdb /mnt/hdb supermount dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,user 0 0
/mnt/scd0 /mnt/scd0 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,suid 
0 0
/dev/scd1 /mnt/scd1 auto user 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

Again thanks for all the help with this.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulation ??

[John Richard Smith]

Langsley T Russell wrote:

A couple of weeks ago I installed a new CDRW drive on my LM 8.2 
machine with the intention of backing up many home directory files in 
preparation for installing 9.1. Since that time I've been trying to 
set up ide-scsi emulation with no success.
Two things,

add to the append line in/etc/lilo.conf  like this
append=" hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi "
then run in terminal.
/sbin/lilo to check new lilo script is OK
this will scsi-em's both dvd and writer.

change in /etc/fstab like this
/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom2 auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
this enables the new scsi-em'd devices to be mounted.

in terminal , mount -a

right mouse click on desktop,
create new cdrom device, name it,
then rightmouse click the icon newly created to properties,
and point the device at the appropriet /dev/scd0, or /dev/scd1
All should work,

John

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulation ??

[John Drouhard]

On 09 Jun 2003 16:48:20 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A couple of weeks ago I installed a new CDRW drive on my LM 8.2 machine
> with the intention of backing up many home directory files in
> preparation for installing 9.1. Since that time I've been trying to set
> up ide-scsi emulation with no success. The most detailed information I
> could find on accomplishing this came from, 
> http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-cdburn.html?ca=dgr-lnxw2oBurnCDs
> 
> Instructions there said, 
> 
> > You'll need to edit two text files to configure the system to use the
> > ide-scsi driver. The first is /etc/modules.conf (in Debian,
> > /etc/modules). My system has a CD-ROM and CD-R/RW drive, hdb and hdc.
> > Add these lines to /etc/modules.conf (or /etc/modules) using values
> > appropriate for your system:
> > 
> > ide-cd ignore=\"hdb hdc\"
> > ide-scsi
> 
> However when I attempt to open /etc/modules.conf from a terminal as SU,
> I get the message "Permission denied". If I can't access this file as
> root, what must I do? 
as root, try chmod a-rwx /etc/modules.conf, and then
chmod +rw /etc/modules.conf

That should allow you to modify it as root. And to get scsi emulation,
find which cd you want to be emulated (ie hdb or hdc), then edit
lilo.conf to say something like this:

image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="linux"
root=/dev/hdc5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="quiet devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off" <-- add [CD 
ROM]=ide-scsi
vga=794
read-only

Then, edit /etc/fstab and make it look like this (only the cdrom lines, there are many 
more lines):

none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,unhide,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0

You need to change dev=/dev/[CD ROM] to dev=/dev/scd0.

HTH,

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulation ??

[JoeHill]

On 09 Jun 2003 16:48:20 -0500
Langsley T Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> A couple of weeks ago I installed a new CDRW drive on my LM 8.2
> machine with the intention of backing up many home directory files in
> preparation for installing 9.1. Since that time I've been trying to
> set up ide-scsi emulation with no success. The most detailed
> information I could find on accomplishing this came from, 

try using GCombust. In my experience, I have never had to do anything
but click on "detect scsi drive" and then "check scsi settings", or vice
versa, can't remember now.

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Re: [newbie] scsi emulation

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Wednesday 15 January 2003 10:53 pm, Josenildo Marques 
wrote:
> How can I change the CD-ROM so that it works with SCSI
> emulation together with the CD-writer ?
>
> The line is lilo.conf is as follows:
>
> append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi quiet"
>
> The CD-ROM is hdd. It seems stupid, but the fact is that
> I don't have the faintest idea how to add it. Would it
> be with an &?  :-)
>
> Thanks.

Just swap the hdc=ide-scsi with hdd=scsi in the append 
line, and THEN (as root) run the command *lilo*.

Or, in case you have two CD-drives ( for example a 
CD-reader and a CD-writer ) change it to :

append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi quiet"
which is what I have. Works fine in all respects.
And - after editing *lilo.conf* - THEN (as root) run 
*lilo*.

You can confirm the changes by watching the output from 
lilo, and then (as root) run *cdrecord --scanbus*.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] scsi emulation

[Francisco Alcaraz Ariza]

You don't need add scsi emulation for the cd-rom; go to the xcdroast page and 
download the last rpms (alpha-13) for xcdroast and also cdrecord and so on; 
now xcdroast recognized also ide-atapi drives and you can use them as lector 
drive (to read a cd, copy on the fly..). I have this runing under 
Mandrake 9.0 pretty well.

Francisco Alcaraz
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El Mié 15 Ene 2003 23:53, Josenildo Marques escribió:
> How can I change the cd-rom so that it works with scsi emulation together
> with the cd-writer ?
>
> The line is lilo.conf is as follows:
>
> append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi quiet"
>
> The cd-rom is hdd. It seems stupid, but the fact is that I don't have the
> faintest idea how to add it. Would it be with an &?  :-)
>
> Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] scsi emulation

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Wednesday 15 January 2003 05:53 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> How can I change the cd-rom so that it works with scsi emulation together
> with the cd-writer ?
>
> The line is lilo.conf is as follows:
>
> append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi quiet"
>
> The cd-rom is hdd. It seems stupid, but the fact is that I don't have the
> faintest idea how to add it. Would it be with an &?  :-)
>
> Thanks.

It should be:

append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi quiet"

That should do it.

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[newbie] scsi emulation

[Josenildo Marques]

How can I change the cd-rom so that it works with scsi emulation together with 
the cd-writer ?

The line is lilo.conf is as follows:

append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi quiet"

The cd-rom is hdd. It seems stupid, but the fact is that I don't have the 
faintest idea how to add it. Would it be with an &?  :-)

Thanks.




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[newbie] SCSI module error installing 8.2

[Andy Davidson]

I cannot seem to install 8.2 on an older PC (Pentium-MMX, so I
needed the patch for the packages problem) with or without its SCSI
card. Early on --- just after I choose Expert mode for the package
selection --- I see a message that it is installing scsi|disk card,
modules imm and ppa. All goes well until I go to test the X setup and
the machine puts up the messages:

 /tmp/imm.o: init_module: No such device
 /tmp/ppa.o: init_module: No such device

and hangs.

I am stuck.  I tried removing the SCSI card, but the same error
occurs. Anybody got some idea what I can try now?

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Re: [newbie] SCSI pci Card Scanner.

[Malcolm Candlish]

Mike,

Yes it worked! I used insmod -f with the path to the driver and all goes well.

Thank you very much Mike McNeese.
I am most grateful to you and your ability with Linux.

Regards,

Malcolm Candlish.


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mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Malcolm Candlish wrote:
> > 
> > Sirs,
> > 
> > Having configured Mandrake 8.2 all went like a dream; except for my scanner a 
>Trust connect 19200. Clearly the scsi pci card could not be found so I insmod the 
>driver dmx3191d.o and it works, but I have to insmod as root each time I boot up.
> > 
> > Is it possible to add that action to the boot system?
> > 
> > Malcolm Candlish.
> 
> 
> Hi , 
> 
> I had the same problem with my umax scanner in 8.0.
> 
> the way I fixed the problem is to insert the following line into
> /etc/rc.local:
> 
> /sbin/insmod aic7xxx &
> 
> everytime the system boots , if the scanner is on it loads the driver.
> scanner has to be on at start up under this setup.
> 
> maybe a better way but this is the only way it would work for me. 
> 
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> 
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Re: [newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2

[Randy Kramer]

Joel G. Viney wrote:
> I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD.  I get to the Setup Filesystems
> section.  A dialog box pops up asking "Do you have any SCSI Interface?"  I
> do not so I click "No."  The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get
> past it.
> 
> I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM.

Just a shot in the dark: IIRC, there is an option to "View Hardware" --
have you tried that -- maybe there is a SCSI device, or something that
Mandrake thinks is a SCSI.  (IIUC, some of the very early CD-Roms that
used "proprietary" interfaces were actually SCSI or a variety thereof.

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Re: [newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2

[Joel G. Viney]

At 10:22 AM 03/19/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>At 12:49 PM 03/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>Joel G. Viney wrote:
>> > I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD.  I get to the Setup Filesystems
>> > section.  A dialog box pops up asking "Do you have any SCSI Interface?"  I
>> > do not so I click "No."  The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get
>> > past it.
>> >
>> > I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM.
>>
>>Just a shot in the dark: IIRC, there is an option to "View Hardware" --
>>have you tried that -- maybe there is a SCSI device, or something that
>>Mandrake thinks is a SCSI.  (IIUC, some of the very early CD-Roms that
>>used "proprietary" interfaces were actually SCSI or a variety thereof.
>>
>>Randy Kramer
>
>Hi Randy,
>The CD ROM is Creative Labs 4X CD ROM.  It came out in 95/96 so it would 
>have been at the beginning of the PnP era.  I'll check it out.

Well, I can't find a View Hardware option for the installation.  I can 
choose  for Expert/Text/Normal installations and that is it.  It seems 
like the install program is caught in a loop.
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Re: [newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2

[Joel G. Viney]

At 12:49 PM 03/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Joel G. Viney wrote:
> > I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD.  I get to the Setup Filesystems
> > section.  A dialog box pops up asking "Do you have any SCSI Interface?"  I
> > do not so I click "No."  The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get
> > past it.
> >
> > I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM.
>
>Just a shot in the dark: IIRC, there is an option to "View Hardware" --
>have you tried that -- maybe there is a SCSI device, or something that
>Mandrake thinks is a SCSI.  (IIUC, some of the very early CD-Roms that
>used "proprietary" interfaces were actually SCSI or a variety thereof.
>
>Randy Kramer

Hi Randy,
The CD ROM is Creative Labs 4X CD ROM.  It came out in 95/96 so it would 
have been at the beginning of the PnP era.  I'll check it out.

Thanks,

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[newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2

[Joel G. Viney]

Hi There,
I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD.  I get to the Setup Filesystems 
section.  A dialog box pops up asking "Do you have any SCSI Interface?"  I 
do not so I click "No."  The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get 
past it.

I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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[newbie] scsi drive install

[mike cola]

okay i installed a scsi card into my mandrake 8.1 box and it detected the new card no 
dramas but how i do i get it to show the new hdd i attached to said card? i had a nose 
around with hard drake but it didnt show there and i cant seem to find diskdrake..im 
sure i installed it but it doesnt run at the console with the word diskdrake, and now 
for some reason after my last format and reinstall rpmdrake will no longer accept a 
new source being added (i upgraded it after the reinstall to version 1.4-14 with 
no-deps option as it kept gave me a dep error of urpmi >=3.1-4mdk was needed.. )

what do i need to do to be able to use this scsi drive as i plan to use it with vmware 
to hava win2k virtual machine for my comp sci course i just started at uni...

thanks

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Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulatio

[Roger Sherman]

To both Dan and Joan: Thanks! That did the trick :-)


On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Joan Tur wrote:

> Es Tue 05 Feb 2002 06:28, en Roger Sherman va escriure:
> > Pardon my asking this question, which I know has been answered a bunch of
> > times, but I have tried unsuccessfully to find it in the archives - what
> > is the line I put in lilo.conf to make the system think my IDE CD-RW is
> > SCSI? And where?
> >
> > Thanks!
> The following lines are from /etc/lilo.conf:
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
> label=8.2b1
> root=/dev/hdg7
> initrd=/boot/initrd.img
> append=" mem=nopentium devfs=mount quiet hda=ide-scsi"
> vga=788
> read-only
>
> hdx=ide-scsi is what you have to modify.  Where x is your ide device:
> a=master in primary ide controller
> b=secondary on primary ide controller
> c=master in secondary ide controller
> d=master in secondary ide controller.
>
> After having changed that you have to run lilo and, if you don't see any
> error messages, it'll be done!  ;)
>
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Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulatio

[Dan Shackelford]

Edit your configuration file.

If you use LILO, edit /etc/lilo.conf so that under your present boot
section you have
append = "hd?=ide-scsi"
(where the question mark is replaced with the drive designation of the CD-R
or CD-RW drive, for example for the common arrangement where it's the
secondary master ide device you would have hdc=ide-scsi). If there's
already an append line there, just add this to it. Save the lilo.conf you
just edited and then type: /sbin/lilo (on a root command line).



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>times, but I have tried unsuccessfully to find it in the archives - what
>is the line I put in lilo.conf to make the system think my IDE CD-RW is
>SCSI? And where?
>
>Thanks!
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Re: [newbie] SCSI Emulation of CD-ROM

[skinky]

On Monday 17 December 2001 15:56, Ira Bargon III wrote:
|  Hello,
|
|  I have just installed Linux Mandrake 8.1. I am running it on a system
| with and ide atapi cdrom (Kenwood 52X True-X) and a ide atapi cd-rw
| (Creative 6424). When i installed mandrake it set up my cdrw for scsi
| emulation but it kept my cdrom as ide. Everything works fine, but i cant
| use X-cdroast to do a direct copy of a cd because, my cd-rom isn't set
| up with scsi-emulation and the program only knows of scsi devices.  Does
| anyone know of a way i can setup my cdrom for scsi emulation and is
| their a way without recompiling my kernel. Maybe a script of something.

Edit /etc/lilo.conf.  You will see that there is already an entry for your 
cdrw like:

append=" hdX=ide-scsi"   # where X is the cdrw drive letter

now add the same for your cdrom drive like:

append=" hdX=ide-scsi hdY=ide-scsi "  # where Y is the cdrom drive letter

Once you have saved your changes, in a terminal run lilo (as root):

# /sbin/lilo

Now edit your /etc/fstab file - this depends on what your fstab looks 
like.  For example mine looks like this:

/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,exec,--,nosuid,nodev 0 0

/mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
dev=/dev/scd1,fs=iso9660,exec,--,nosuid,nodev 0 0

Where /dev/scd0 is my cdrw and /dev/scd1 is my cdrom. Note that I am using 
a newer kernel than the stock 2.4.8-26mdk that comes with ML8.1 so I am 
using supermount - yours may be different as supermount is broken in the 
2.4.8-26mdk kernel.  The important bit is the /dev/scdX part.

And lastly (I'm not sure if this is absolutely necessary) reboot - I'm not 
sure if just remounting the cdrom will do it so I just reboot.

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[newbie] SCSI Emulation of CD-ROM

[Ira Bargon III]

Hello,

I have just installed Linux Mandrake 8.1. I am running it on a system with 
and ide atapi cdrom (Kenwood 52X True-X) and a ide atapi cd-rw (Creative 
6424). When i installed mandrake it set up my cdrw for scsi emulation but it 
kept my cdrom as ide. Everything works fine, but i cant use X-cdroast to do a 
direct copy of a cd because, my cd-rom isn't set up with scsi-emulation and 
the program only knows of scsi devices.  Does anyone know of a way i can 
setup my cdrom for scsi emulation and is their a way without recompiling my 
kernel. Maybe a script of something. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Ira



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Re: [newbie] SCSI drives won't access for install

[antoine rivoire]

is  ur scsi detected during boot process?
it sould be one of the first things ihe installer looks for after keyboard 
and mouse if i can remember correctly. i know mandrake 8.0 i386 had 
issues with installing from a scsi cdrom. it might be one thing to 
investigate in the list archives..
hope it works for u, good luck



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> Just burned a CD of the Mandrake 8.0 PPC .iso to put on a 300mhz
> Powermac 8600 at work. I used the BootX app, extension and kernels
> from the CD's miscellaneous folder.
>
> The install routine begins nicely, but when it asks where the install
> files are, it says it cannot find a CDROM and then gives me a whole
> long list (of ... drivers?) to try to use, with a subsequent window
> asking for parameters (I put /dev/cdrom there).
>
> I've tried the obvious entries from the list, like anything
> containing mac, mace or hfs but none works.
>
> Then I copied the CD onto an HFS drive. I tried to install off the
> drive and the installer said it couldn't find the hard drive, again
> giving me a long list of things to try. I did put /dev/sda5 in that
> parameter, the location of the HFS partition where the CD was copied.
>
> I have also checked force Scsi in BootX.
>
> Is there a way to proceed?
>
> -ms



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[newbie] SCSI drives won't access for install

[Marc Stergionis]

Just burned a CD of the Mandrake 8.0 PPC .iso to put on a 300mhz 
Powermac 8600 at work. I used the BootX app, extension and kernels 
from the CD's miscellaneous folder.

The install routine begins nicely, but when it asks where the install 
files are, it says it cannot find a CDROM and then gives me a whole 
long list (of ... drivers?) to try to use, with a subsequent window 
asking for parameters (I put /dev/cdrom there).

I've tried the obvious entries from the list, like anything 
containing mac, mace or hfs but none works.

Then I copied the CD onto an HFS drive. I tried to install off the 
drive and the installer said it couldn't find the hard drive, again 
giving me a long list of things to try. I did put /dev/sda5 in that 
parameter, the location of the HFS partition where the CD was copied.

I have also checked force Scsi in BootX.

Is there a way to proceed?

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[newbie] SCSI CD-R (was Re: [newbie] Sound card oddity)

[Carl Lafferty]

->
->Looks like thats what I got too... ;-)
->
->
take a look at this and see if it look familiar:)

[carl@starfury carl]$ su
Password:
[root@starfury carl]# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.
[root@starfury carl]#

What did you tell me you did???


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[newbie] SCSI CD-ROM not recognised at setup...

[thomaswp]

SCSI CD-ROM not recognised at setup...so I borrowed an IDE CD from another machine. 
Mandrake 8 set itself up perfectly, even finding and mounting the SCSI CD (which 
neither RedHat or Mandrake could find in the setup routine).
So far so good. I put the IDE CD back in to its machine, and run Mandrake. No problem 
until I try to install a printer. Then it says "please insert the setup device..." 

/mnt/cdrom is there even though the CD is no longer in the machine.

I commented out the /mnt/cdrom line in fstab and rejigged the /mnt/cdrom2 line so that 
the machine finds the CD ROM.  The line in fstab that I edited started as:

/mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom2 0 0

and I changed it to

/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom2 0 0

and /mnt/cdrom now finds the SCSI CD-ROM.  IS this right?  I still have problems 
though when in X with installing rpms.

Someone told me I should recompile the kernel, but I cannot find the source and would 
need a good HOW-TO for that.

Finally, I am trying to run the whole thing without a monitor, hence I am doing 
everything with telnet to the shell.  So please bear that in mind if you are kind 
enough to help.

Thanks

Thomas




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Re: [newbie] SCSI emulation

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

Probably the easiest way to do this is to run through the Mandrake 
installation again. Pop your CD in, reboot, and choose an upgrade 
install (expert mode). When it comes to selecting packages, unselect 
everything and continue. By the end, your CD-RW should be configured 
as a SCSI device.


On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:18, s wrote:
> On a related note, I just replaced my mobo and dvdrom drive and
> linux booted fine and kudzu configured the new chipset. 
> yaaay!!!
>
> In addition, the new drive is a dvd/cdrw combo deal, and it is
> correctly identified in kde systems control and harddrake.  again
> yaayyy.
>
> However, the scsi emulation did not automagically get configured. 
> Where is an uptodate site I can look to get this set up?

-- 
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LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
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Re: [newbie] SCSI emulation

[civileme]

On Tuesday 12 June 2001 01:18, s wrote:
> On a related note, I just replaced my mobo and dvdrom drive
> and linux booted fine and kudzu configured the new chipset. 
> yaaay!!!
>
> In addition, the new drive is a dvd/cdrw combo deal, and it is
> correctly identified in kde systems control and harddrake. 
> again yaayyy.
>
> However, the scsi emulation did not automagically get
> configured.  Where is an uptodate site I can look to get this
> set up?
>
> TIA,
> -s
>
SCSI Emulation is in two parts--first a message to the kernel to 
tell it to assume emulation is done  Second is a modprobe of 
scsi and a link to the appropriate SCSI device

The first part is simple in /etc/lilo.conf  or in drakboot 
(Control Center Boot Config) make sure you have this in the 
append

hdc=ide-scsi

if for example it is hdc.

Now in /dev you need to do the following

cd /dev && rm cdrom2 && ln -s scd0 cdrom2

if, for example, the /etc/fstab entry uses /dev/cdrom2 for your 
CDRW.

Finally somewhere you need a 

modprobe ide-scsi

It can be dropped int the next to last line of /etc/rc.local  
(an extra one won't hurt if your system is already doing one)

It is a little known fact that ordinaty plain vanilla CDROMs can 
also be scsi-emulated in the same manner.  Our tests over the 
past 5 months show this works just as well as the dual structure 
we now support.

Civileme



> On Sunday 10 June 2001 03:21 pm, you wrote:
> > On Sunday 10 June 2001 06:37, Roberto Herrero wrote:
> > > SCSI emulation doesn't work in my Macmillan LM 7.2
> > > distribution because the module sr_mod.o is missing. As a
> > > consequence, my CD-burner is not operative.
> >
> > Sorry but that analysis is incorrect.  sr_mod.o is not
> > needed. Access it through /dev/scd0.  There could be several
> > other reasons your CD-R is not working in 7.2.  I would have
> > to see setup information for your specific machine but if it
> > is not an LG and it is not sharing an IDE channel with a DVD
> > or a CDROM, it will work, almost always.  In those cases
> > mentioned, an installation of kernel 2.2.19 is required and
> > still some LGs don't work.
> >
> > Civileme
> >
> > > Please can anybody tell me if that module is loaded by LM
> > > 8.0, or it is still missing in that version? Check out in
> > > /lib/modules/(mandrake_kernel_version)/scsi
> >
> > FWIW, it is there, but at
> > file:/lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi. And it
> > still is not needed.
> >
> > > Thank you very much,
> > >
> > > Roberto Herrero

Re: [newbie] SCSI emulation

[s]

On a related note, I just replaced my mobo and dvdrom drive and linux booted 
fine and kudzu configured the new chipset.  yaaay!!!  

In addition, the new drive is a dvd/cdrw combo deal, and it is correctly 
identified in kde systems control and harddrake.  again yaayyy.

However, the scsi emulation did not automagically get configured.  Where is 
an uptodate site I can look to get this set up?  

TIA,
-s  



On Sunday 10 June 2001 03:21 pm, you wrote:
> On Sunday 10 June 2001 06:37, Roberto Herrero wrote:
> > SCSI emulation doesn't work in my Macmillan LM 7.2 distribution because
> > the module sr_mod.o is missing. As a consequence, my CD-burner is not
> > operative.
>
> Sorry but that analysis is incorrect.  sr_mod.o is not needed. Access it
> through /dev/scd0.  There could be several other reasons your CD-R is not
> working in 7.2.  I would have to see setup information for your specific
> machine but if it is not an LG and it is not sharing an IDE channel with a
> DVD or a CDROM, it will work, almost always.  In those cases mentioned, an
> installation of kernel 2.2.19 is required and still some LGs don't work.
>
> Civileme
>
> > Please can anybody tell me if that module is loaded by LM 8.0, or it is
> > still missing in that version? Check out in
> > /lib/modules/(mandrake_kernel_version)/scsi
>
> FWIW, it is there, but at
> file:/lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi. And it still is not
> needed.
>
> > Thank you very much,
> >
> > Roberto Herrero

Re: [newbie] SCSI emulation

[civileme]

On Sunday 10 June 2001 06:37, Roberto Herrero wrote:
> SCSI emulation doesn't work in my Macmillan LM 7.2 distribution because the
> module sr_mod.o is missing. As a consequence, my CD-burner is not
> operative.

Sorry but that analysis is incorrect.  sr_mod.o is not needed. Access it 
through /dev/scd0.  There could be several other reasons your CD-R is not 
working in 7.2.  I would have to see setup information for your specific 
machine but if it is not an LG and it is not sharing an IDE channel with a 
DVD or a CDROM, it will work, almost always.  In those cases mentioned, an 
installation of kernel 2.2.19 is required and still some LGs don't work.

Civileme

>
> Please can anybody tell me if that module is loaded by LM 8.0, or it is
> still missing in that version? Check out in
> /lib/modules/(mandrake_kernel_version)/scsi

FWIW, it is there, but at file:/lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi.  
And it still is not needed.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Roberto Herrero

Re: [newbie] SCSI support - AHA 2940

[Paul]

It was Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:49:47 + (GMT) when Len Lawrence wrote:

>System
>  AMD K6 450MHz
>  Matshita 4X CD-ROM drive
>  4 Gb SCSI disk
>  Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI adapter
>
>The installer recognises the card:
>
>  * PCI: device 9004 7178 is "AdaptecAHA-294x / AIC-7871" (aic7xxx)
>
>but fails to find the driver

Hmmm. The pc that I already upgraded also has the 2940(uw) and that one
installed without a problem.
Did you try expert mode install?

Paul

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[newbie] SCSI support - AHA 2940

[Len Lawrence]

Problem trying to install the download edition of Linux Mandrake 8.0
obtained from Linux Magazine.  The installer instructed me to report
the failure as a bug and attach the error messages.  There was no
indication in the magazine or on the cover disk as to where the report
should be sent, so I tried support - no response, as expected.  I
wished to assess version 8.0 before buying the boxed set, deluxe or
powerpack or whatever.  I shall be buying it anyway for my newer
machine but need it to run on the older PC, which will be exposed to
Windows users at some time.  Need to give a good impression.

System
  AMD K6 450MHz
  Matshita 4X CD-ROM drive
  4 Gb SCSI disk
  Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI adapter

This is an old system (1996) with a new motherboard, processor and
video card which has been running RedHat successfully for years and
Mandrake 7.2 just lately.  The initial attempt to use cdrom.img failed
with a message like "the cdrom does not appear to be a Mandrake
installation disk".

The installer recognises the card:

  * PCI: device 9004 7178 is "AdaptecAHA-294x / AIC-7871" (aic7xxx)

but fails to find the driver

  * file-not-found-in-archive aic7xxx.o
  * warning, insmod failed (aic7xxx (null)) (-2)

So, can anybody tell me, is this simply an oversight on the part of 
Mandrake or have they dropped support for this adapter?

-- 
Len Lawrence @ The Thistle Foundation

Re: [newbie] SCSI cdrom installation

[Civileme]

Mandrake 8.0 Bea requires a minimum Pentium processor.  

And the module built for the 2.0 kernel of redHat 5.2 is NOT going to work 
with a 2.4 kernel, which is why insmod failed.

You might be able to get Mandrake 5.3 somewhere or you could try RH 6.0, but 
a 386 just isn't adequate for 8.0, nor is a 486.  It is compiled for a 
Pentium class and up, exclusively, not just optimized for it.

Civileme


On Friday 30 March 2001 12:55, you wrote:
> Hi
>  
> I'm installing Linux Mandrake 8.0 BETA 2 on my IBM 386X laptop using a
> backpack (microsolutions) cdrom with SCSI connection.
>  
> I did this installation using the same devices with RedHat 5.2 and to
> my surprise it had a module (bpcd.o) spcifically for this external cdrom.
>   
> However, Mandrake hasn't. I tried to copy the module from RedHat onto
> a floppy and, during install, using the cdrom image bootfloppy, choose "use
> third-party module" or something like that. Mandrake recognizes the file on
> the floppy but when I selects it it says "insmod failed". For
> some reason it can't install this module. This is very frustrating and I'd
> appreciate any help on the subject.  
> Thanks in advance
>  
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