Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
On Wed, 03 Nov 1999, you wrote: > This directly from the web page above. Download links are on the page. > > Adaptive Server Enterprise for Linux version 11.0.3.3 continues > to be offered as a free, unsupported release for development as > well as deployment. Adaptive Server Enterprise for Linux version > 11.0.3.3 is available from the Sybase Adaptive Server Enterprise > for Linux version 11.0.3.3 download web page. > > Adaptive Server Enterprise 11.9.2 is offered FREE for development > from the Sybase Adaptive Server Enterprise 11.9.2 download web page. > You can purchase support even if you download the free development > copy. You can get the software on CD with printed copy of Installation > guide for $99 from Sybase sales. To deploy Adaptive Server Enterprise > for Linux version 11.9.2 on a production box, contact Sybase sales > at 1-800-8SYBASE. > > Yeahand if it's free for download for "development" how long does it take to make sure that Sybase is going to stand up over the long-haul, including upgrading the Linux kernel, etc? ;-) I knowyou're supposed to pay for it if you use it long-termbut as with any other "shareware" program how many people are actually going to "register" their shareware??? ;-) John
Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
>> >> Is it free? Can I get RPMs of it somewhere? If not, I'll pass thanks. >> >I believe Sybase *is* free (for now... later versions MAY >cost money.) Check out the following UR -- >http://www.sybase.com/products/databaseservers/linux/index.html This directly from the web page above. Download links are on the page. Adaptive Server Enterprise for Linux version 11.0.3.3 continues to be offered as a free, unsupported release for development as well as deployment. Adaptive Server Enterprise for Linux version 11.0.3.3 is available from the Sybase Adaptive Server Enterprise for Linux version 11.0.3.3 download web page. Adaptive Server Enterprise 11.9.2 is offered FREE for development from the Sybase Adaptive Server Enterprise 11.9.2 download web page. You can purchase support even if you download the free development copy. You can get the software on CD with printed copy of Installation guide for $99 from Sybase sales. To deploy Adaptive Server Enterprise for Linux version 11.9.2 on a production box, contact Sybase sales at 1-800-8SYBASE. Michael
Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
On Wed, 03 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Hi John Aldrich ! > > On 11/1/99 8:32:30 PM, you wrote: > >Try Sybase... :-) > > Is it free? Can I get RPMs of it somewhere? If not, I'll pass thanks. > I believe Sybase *is* free (for now... later versions MAY cost money.) Check out the following UR -- http://www.sybase.com/products/databaseservers/linux/index.html John
Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
We run Sybase at work for our in-house apps. But, if your application does not need to do "fancy" transactions or stored procedures than MySQL is my choice. The speed blows Sybase away because it doesn't have all that "overhead". John Aldrich wrote: > On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 02:40:03PM -0500, Damien Mc Kenna wrote: > > > For doing a pretty large databased web site for a college department > > > (with all the cool stuff in PHP), which would people recommend I use: > > > PostreSQL or MySQL? I've noticed that a lot of the PHP packages I'm > > > looking at seem to favor MySQL, but PostgreSQL is getting more support > > > these days. Should I just read through their respective documentations > > > and figure it out for myself, or does anyone have a recommendation, or > > > are there any good comparisons of them on the net? > > > > I'm rather partial to MySQL, but only because it seemed easier to deal with > > to me. PostgreSQL seems to do alot of things _outside_ the database, rather > > than dealing with them inside normal tables. > > > > Some of the decision will depend on what sorts of things you need to do > > with the database. I know that MySQL doesn't handle straight transactions, > > nor can it do table or row locking. I don't recall whether PostgreSQL > > handles those normally. > > > > I do know there was a rather lengthy discussion about this very topic on > > Slashdot awhile ago. You might try there. http://slashdot.org > > > Try Sybase... :-) It rocks!!! At the ISP where I work, we are hosting > the FIRST authorized electronic check conversion system (authorized > by the Feds and by the banking industry!) and it has a HUGE database, > and is being run off a couple Sybase servers. :-) > John
Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > Try Sybase... :-) It rocks!!! At the ISP where I work, we are hosting > > the FIRST authorized electronic check conversion system (authorized > > by the Feds and by the banking industry!) and it has a HUGE database, > > and is being run off a couple Sybase servers. :-) > > What size servers? expected DB size? > > Anyone else tried Sybase? I'm always interested in fun new things to > play with. I'm still waiting for an Oracle 8i CD to show up so I can > "get smart" before we move to Oracle at work. > Well, we're running 'em on a couple HP LPRs. :-) Oracle called us awhile back. The price they wanted for the version of their software to run on the HP LPR machines was astronomical! :-) I'm not sure what size servers, all I know is the system is capable of handling hundreds of database hits per minute. :-) John
Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
John Aldrich wrote: > > On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 02:40:03PM -0500, Damien Mc Kenna wrote: > > > For doing a pretty large databased web site for a college department > > > (with all the cool stuff in PHP), which would people recommend I use: > > > PostreSQL or MySQL? I've noticed that a lot of the PHP packages I'm > > > looking at seem to favor MySQL, but PostgreSQL is getting more support > > > these days. Should I just read through their respective documentations > > > and figure it out for myself, or does anyone have a recommendation, or > > > are there any good comparisons of them on the net? > > > > I'm rather partial to MySQL, but only because it seemed easier to deal with > > to me. PostgreSQL seems to do alot of things _outside_ the database, rather > > than dealing with them inside normal tables. > > > > Some of the decision will depend on what sorts of things you need to do > > with the database. I know that MySQL doesn't handle straight transactions, > > nor can it do table or row locking. I don't recall whether PostgreSQL > > handles those normally. > > > > I do know there was a rather lengthy discussion about this very topic on > > Slashdot awhile ago. You might try there. http://slashdot.org > > > Try Sybase... :-) It rocks!!! At the ISP where I work, we are hosting > the FIRST authorized electronic check conversion system (authorized > by the Feds and by the banking industry!) and it has a HUGE database, > and is being run off a couple Sybase servers. :-) What size servers? expected DB size? Anyone else tried Sybase? I'm always interested in fun new things to play with. I'm still waiting for an Oracle 8i CD to show up so I can "get smart" before we move to Oracle at work. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, you wrote: > On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 02:40:03PM -0500, Damien Mc Kenna wrote: > > For doing a pretty large databased web site for a college department > > (with all the cool stuff in PHP), which would people recommend I use: > > PostreSQL or MySQL? I've noticed that a lot of the PHP packages I'm > > looking at seem to favor MySQL, but PostgreSQL is getting more support > > these days. Should I just read through their respective documentations > > and figure it out for myself, or does anyone have a recommendation, or > > are there any good comparisons of them on the net? > > I'm rather partial to MySQL, but only because it seemed easier to deal with > to me. PostgreSQL seems to do alot of things _outside_ the database, rather > than dealing with them inside normal tables. > > Some of the decision will depend on what sorts of things you need to do > with the database. I know that MySQL doesn't handle straight transactions, > nor can it do table or row locking. I don't recall whether PostgreSQL > handles those normally. > > I do know there was a rather lengthy discussion about this very topic on > Slashdot awhile ago. You might try there. http://slashdot.org > Try Sybase... :-) It rocks!!! At the ISP where I work, we are hosting the FIRST authorized electronic check conversion system (authorized by the Feds and by the banking industry!) and it has a HUGE database, and is being run off a couple Sybase servers. :-) John
Re: [newbie] SQL systems comparison?
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 02:40:03PM -0500, Damien Mc Kenna wrote: > For doing a pretty large databased web site for a college department > (with all the cool stuff in PHP), which would people recommend I use: > PostreSQL or MySQL? I've noticed that a lot of the PHP packages I'm > looking at seem to favor MySQL, but PostgreSQL is getting more support > these days. Should I just read through their respective documentations > and figure it out for myself, or does anyone have a recommendation, or > are there any good comparisons of them on the net? I'm rather partial to MySQL, but only because it seemed easier to deal with to me. PostgreSQL seems to do alot of things _outside_ the database, rather than dealing with them inside normal tables. Some of the decision will depend on what sorts of things you need to do with the database. I know that MySQL doesn't handle straight transactions, nor can it do table or row locking. I don't recall whether PostgreSQL handles those normally. I do know there was a rather lengthy discussion about this very topic on Slashdot awhile ago. You might try there. http://slashdot.org -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] SQL systems comparison?
For doing a pretty large databased web site for a college department (with all the cool stuff in PHP), which would people recommend I use: PostreSQL or MySQL? I've noticed that a lot of the PHP packages I'm looking at seem to favor MySQL, but PostgreSQL is getting more support these days. Should I just read through their respective documentations and figure it out for myself, or does anyone have a recommendation, or are there any good comparisons of them on the net? Damien Mc Kenna Keene State College, BSc Computer Science Student http://www.mckenna.brinet.net/[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ 17066133
