Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:53:22 + Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've heard of many having success with CF, but > the only model I have heard > quoted as working for SM is the Sandisk > SDDR-77. I have had long > conversations with Sandisk, as that model does > not seem to be available here > in the UK. First I was told that it was > available, but then I was told that > there was only one model, a CF/SM reader with a > different number, that they > could offer me. I'm still trying to find out > if it is the same one, renamed. > > Anyone with any experience of working SM > readers in UK? John and I are still > looking for one. > > Anne Anne, I've had just the opposite experience. Most SmartMedia readers work fine, but CompactFlash can be problematic, and I'm only aware of one combo reader (CF/SM) that works under Linux (but I can't recall the brand). I don't know if you can get PNY products in the UK, but my PNY Smartreader works just fine under Mandrake 8.2 and 9.0). It is small, plain black and ugly and cost $29 (US) from Staples Office Supply. I don't know if they are in the UK, but they have a web site (www.staples.com) and I'm sure others carry the PNY brand. I'd give you the model number, but I'm not at that computer right now. If you're interested, let me know. My best recommendation, though, would to buy locally from a vendor who allows returns. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Friday 29 Nov 2002 4:41 pm, Poogle wrote: > Yes in the UK, IIRC it was from PC World but I've just had a look at > http://www.dabs.com and they can get them in 3-4 days at £35.25 or > http://www.digitalfirst.co.uk show them at £29.99 but I've never heard of > the company, got their name from the microtech website. HTH > I'll take a look at that tonight. I'm seriously wondering, though, if it's worth the trouble after the problems my old one has caused. I can read the pics in gPhoto - it's slow, but it works. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
Yes in the UK, IIRC it was from PC World but I've just had a look at http://www.dabs.com and they can get them in 3-4 days at £35.25 or http://www.digitalfirst.co.uk show them at £29.99 but I've never heard of the company, got their name from the microtech website. HTH On Friday 29 Nov 2002 H:10 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 29 Nov 2002 10:46 am, Poogle wrote: > > In a word yes. > > I have a Zio USB SM reader which is RW in Windows but read only in Linux > > - (Pauses to plug it in, insert SM card and check that it is readable) > > That sounds good enough to me - I can erase in the camera. I presume you > bought it in the UK? I'll google for it, but if you can point me at a > vendor I'd be grateful. > > Anne -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Friday 29 Nov 2002 10:46 am, Poogle wrote: > In a word yes. > I have a Zio USB SM reader which is RW in Windows but read only in Linux - > (Pauses to plug it in, insert SM card and check that it is readable) That sounds good enough to me - I can erase in the camera. I presume you bought it in the UK? I'll google for it, but if you can point me at a vendor I'd be grateful. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 9:34 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Oh, one other thing, look in you file browser, at the /mnt partition and see if it shows something there. Mine shows "memory_card". I did not make that file, the system did when it saw I had a card reader attached. So if yours shows something different than "cardreader" try mounting what the system made up for you and see what happens. There is a directory /mnt/disk which I did not make. I have tried substituting disk for cardreader, but get exactly the same messages. Anne /mnt/disk gets made automatically by the installer and happens every time these days, don't why, John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
In a word yes. I have a Zio USB SM reader which is RW in Windows but read only in Linux - (Pauses to plug it in, insert SM card and check that it is readable) For my convenience I created a mount point /mnt/Zio which uses /dev/sda1 as it's device, then I just go to Removable media, click on Zio and it opens /mnt/memory_card which I didn't create - it was done by the system and does not appear as Removable media. I then navigate through to mnt/memory_card/dcim/100olymp which is the naming convention used by my camera in this case and open the image, which I can then save onto the HD. I can, and have copied files over to a windows directory and saved them to SM that way. If it helps my fstab and mtab are posted below - BTW supermount works for me. Useful links :- http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~hjew/zio/ http://www.microtechint.com/zio/index.html FSTAB /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,ro,--,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,nosuid,umask=0,nodev 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/hdd,fs=iso9660,ro,--,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,nosuid,umask=0,nodev 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,nosuid,umask=0,unhide,nodev 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/sda1 /mnt/memory_card auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0 MTAB /dev/hda1 / ext3 rw 0 0 none /proc proc rw 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0 none /dev devfs rw 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda7 /home ext3 rw 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom supermount ro,nosuid,nodev,dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,--,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount ro,nosuid,nodev,dev=/dev/hdd,fs=iso9660,--,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount rw,nosuid,nodev,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,unhide 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows vfat rw,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda6 /usr ext3 rw 0 0 /dev/sda1 /mnt/memory_card vfat ro,nosuid,nodev,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0,user=john 0 0 BIG snip > > Anyone with any experience of working SM readers in UK? John and I are > still looking for one. > > Anne -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 10:42 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > Ok, here is evidence that smart cards work, Miark's post may help, this is > from the newbie maillist archives: > > > newbie > > > <-- Chronological --> > Find > <-- Thread --> > > > Re: [newbie] Mounting SmartMedia > > From: Dennis Myers > Subject: Re: [newbie] Mounting SmartMedia > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:34:59 -0700 > > On Thursday 29 August 2002 05:34 pm, Miark wrote: > > It would run if it were so smart, eh? > > > > Anyway, I got my USB reader today, plugged it in, did > > a mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/sm and blam! I was in > > business! One less reason to depend on Winsux-- I love > > it. A couple of questions, though: > > > > * How "hot-swappable" is this beast can I yank it out > > anytime it's not writing, or do I have to unmount it > > before I pull the card out, or the reader out of the > > USB port? > > > > * Does supermount have anything to do with this? > > > > * Should I put anything in /etc/fstab? > > > > Thanks, > > Miark > > HTH I've heard of many having success with CF, but the only model I have heard quoted as working for SM is the Sandisk SDDR-77. I have had long conversations with Sandisk, as that model does not seem to be available here in the UK. First I was told that it was available, but then I was told that there was only one model, a CF/SM reader with a different number, that they could offer me. I'm still trying to find out if it is the same one, renamed. Anyone with any experience of working SM readers in UK? John and I are still looking for one. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 9:34 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > Oh, one other thing, look in you file browser, at the /mnt partition and > see if it shows something there. Mine shows "memory_card". I did not make > that file, the system did when it saw I had a card reader attached. So if > yours shows something different than "cardreader" try mounting what the > system made up for you and see what happens. There is a directory /mnt/disk which I did not make. I have tried substituting disk for cardreader, but get exactly the same messages. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 9:34 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is > > > settled in. To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows: > > > > I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was > > recognised as sda. Then I tried to mount it: > > --- > > mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader > > mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only > > mount: No medium found > > [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader > > umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted > > > > > > I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I > > don't have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card. > > > > Is that your interpretation? > > > > Anne > > Oh, one other thing, look in you file browser, at the /mnt partition and > see if it shows something there. Mine shows "memory_card". I did not make > that file, the system did when it saw I had a card reader attached. So if > yours shows something different than "cardreader" try mounting what the > system made up for you and see what happens. BTW - is there any way to deal with this swapping identities? I have just realised that fstab is attempting to mount /dev/sda as /mnt/LS120 - but Konqueror is showing it with a padlock, like a fd or cdrom with no disk in - which again suggests to me that it is seeing the CF card. Anyway, if I unplug the cardreader - I would not normally have it plugged in - my LS120 will be on the wrong drivename. And when I reboot it will return to its own sda. How is the name derived? Is the position on the usb hub relevant? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 November 2002 04:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 9:22 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is > > > > settled in. To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows: > > > > > > I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was > > > recognised as sda. Then I tried to mount it: > > > --- > > > mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader > > > mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only > > > mount: No medium found > > > [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader > > > umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted > > > > > > > > > I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I > > > don't have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card. > > > > > > Is that your interpretation? > > > > > > Anne > > > > Anne, was that a typo above or did you really mean sda? Again it has to > > have a partition designation. Try mount /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 > > whichever is the smart card device. Just type in that and see what it > > returns. Then if you cd to /mnt /cardreader it should show you data as > > in photos by doing "ls".HTH > > A typo, but not sure whether it was in the email or the command, so I > plugged in again and rebooted. This time I realised that it had added sda, > moved the LS120 to sdb and also added sdc - that is, according to MCC. > However, when I booted I got a message that sda had been added - no mention > of sdc. I should also say that the boot hung for a long time at 'finding > dependencies', re-starting as soon as I disconnected the cardreader, which > I immediately re-plugged. I suspect that it is identifying the CF reader > and loading the appropriate drivers, but can't cope with the SM. > > The root console now gives me: > > [root@anne-linux anne]# mount /dev/sdc /mnt/cardreader > mount: special device /dev/sdc does not exist > [root@anne-linux anne]# mount /dev/sda /mnt/cardreader > mount: No medium found > > Konqueror does not show any entries under /mnt/cardreader. > > Anne Ok, here is evidence that smart cards work, Miark's post may help, this is from the newbie maillist archives: newbie <-- Chronological --> Find <-- Thread --> Re: [newbie] Mounting SmartMedia From: Dennis Myers Subject: Re: [newbie] Mounting SmartMedia Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:34:59 -0700 On Thursday 29 August 2002 05:34 pm, Miark wrote: > It would run if it were so smart, eh? > > Anyway, I got my USB reader today, plugged it in, did > a mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/sm and blam! I was in > business! One less reason to depend on Winsux-- I love > it. A couple of questions, though: > > * How "hot-swappable" is this beast can I yank it out > anytime it's not writing, or do I have to unmount it > before I pull the card out, or the reader out of the > USB port? > > * Does supermount have anything to do with this? > > * Should I put anything in /etc/fstab? > > Thanks, > Miark HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 9:22 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is > > > settled in. To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows: > > > > I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was > > recognised as sda. Then I tried to mount it: > > --- > > mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader > > mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only > > mount: No medium found > > [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader > > umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted > > > > > > I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I > > don't have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card. > > > > Is that your interpretation? > > > > Anne > > Anne, was that a typo above or did you really mean sda? Again it has to > have a partition designation. Try mount /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 whichever > is the smart card device. Just type in that and see what it returns. Then > if you cd to /mnt /cardreader it should show you data as in photos by > doing "ls".HTH A typo, but not sure whether it was in the email or the command, so I plugged in again and rebooted. This time I realised that it had added sda, moved the LS120 to sdb and also added sdc - that is, according to MCC. However, when I booted I got a message that sda had been added - no mention of sdc. I should also say that the boot hung for a long time at 'finding dependencies', re-starting as soon as I disconnected the cardreader, which I immediately re-plugged. I suspect that it is identifying the CF reader and loading the appropriate drivers, but can't cope with the SM. The root console now gives me: [root@anne-linux anne]# mount /dev/sdc /mnt/cardreader mount: special device /dev/sdc does not exist [root@anne-linux anne]# mount /dev/sda /mnt/cardreader mount: No medium found Konqueror does not show any entries under /mnt/cardreader. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is > > settled in. To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows: > > I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was > recognised as sda. Then I tried to mount it: > --- > mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader > mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only > mount: No medium found > [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader > umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted > > > I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I don't > have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card. > > Is that your interpretation? > > Anne Oh, one other thing, look in you file browser, at the /mnt partition and see if it shows something there. Mine shows "memory_card". I did not make that file, the system did when it saw I had a card reader attached. So if yours shows something different than "cardreader" try mounting what the system made up for you and see what happens. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 November 2002 01:02 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is > > settled in. To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows: > > I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was > recognised as sda. Then I tried to mount it: > --- > mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader > mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only > mount: No medium found > [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader > umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted > > > I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I don't > have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card. > > Is that your interpretation? > > Anne Anne, was that a typo above or did you really mean sda? Again it has to have a partition designation. Try mount /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 whichever is the smart card device. Just type in that and see what it returns. Then if you cd to /mnt /cardreader it should show you data as in photos by doing "ls".HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 8:05 pm, erylon hines wrote: > On Thursday 28 November 2002 09:57 am, you wrote: > > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is > > settled in. To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows: > > - > > Bus: SCSI > > > > Location on the bus: 0:0 > > > > Channel: 00 > > > > New devfs device: scsi/host3/bus0/target0/lun0/disc > > > > Old device file: /dev/sdb > > > > host: 3 > > > > info: Datafab USB to CF + SM C > > > > lun: 00 > > > > Media class: hd > > > > raw_type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > -- > > > > However when I try to mount /dev/sdb /mnt/cardreader I get > > > > mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist > > > > What can I do now? > > > > Anne > > try to mount the /dev/sda with the partition number 1 -- /dev/sda1 (or > try /dev/sdb1 if that doesn't work). All my cardreaders have required that > I add a partiton number in the /fstab mount line -- I have no idea why the > install never writes /fstab for cardreaders with a partition number. No, I still get exactly the same message. It's frustrating to feel that I am so near, but still not getting there. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 November 2002 09:57 am, you wrote: > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is settled > in. To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows: > - > Bus: SCSI > > Location on the bus: 0:0 > > Channel: 00 > > New devfs device: scsi/host3/bus0/target0/lun0/disc > > Old device file: /dev/sdb > > host: 3 > > info: Datafab USB to CF + SM C > > lun: 00 > > Media class: hd > > raw_type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 > -- > > However when I try to mount /dev/sdb /mnt/cardreader I get > > mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist > > What can I do now? > > Anne try to mount the /dev/sda with the partition number 1 -- /dev/sda1 (or try /dev/sdb1 if that doesn't work). All my cardreaders have required that I add a partiton number in the /fstab mount line -- I have no idea why the install never writes /fstab for cardreaders with a partition number. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 Nov 2002 5:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is settled > in. To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows: I tried a re-boot, and found that my sda was now sdb, and the card was recognised as sda. Then I tried to mount it: --- mount /dev/hda /mnt/cardreader mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: No medium found [root@anne-linux anne]# umount /mnt/cardreader umount: /mnt/cardreader: not mounted I presume that this means that it is finding the CF slot, for which I don't have a card, and not the SM slot, in which I have placed a card. Is that your interpretation? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia Reader
On Thursday 28 November 2002 11:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is settled > in. To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows: > - > Bus: SCSI > > Location on the bus: 0:0 > > Channel: 00 > > New devfs device: scsi/host3/bus0/target0/lun0/disc > > Old device file: /dev/sdb > > host: 3 > > info: Datafab USB to CF + SM C > > lun: 00 > > Media class: hd > > raw_type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 > -- > > However when I try to mount /dev/sdb /mnt/cardreader I get > > mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist > > What can I do now? > > Anne Anne, I think it wants to know about the partition, try doing : mount /dev/sdb1 and then look at /mnt cardreader or if you use Konqueror look at /mnt and see what is mounted there. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Smartmedia Reader
Out of curiosity I decided to try the card reader again, now 9.0 is settled in. To my surprise MCC recognises it as follows: - Bus: SCSI Location on the bus: 0:0 Channel: 00 New devfs device: scsi/host3/bus0/target0/lun0/disc Old device file: /dev/sdb host: 3 info: Datafab USB to CF + SM C lun: 00 Media class: hd raw_type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 -- However when I try to mount /dev/sdb /mnt/cardreader I get mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist What can I do now? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SmartMedia reader recommendations
I'm using a PNY Smart Media reader. Got it from Staples for $19.99. While it doesn't mention Linux (the diskette with the drivers were Windows only), it works like a charm under Linux. Joe On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 00:06:46 -0600 Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to get rid of the jungle of wires that's > passing itself off as a SmartMedia reader. What > brand is the most Linux-friendly? What models? > > Thanks, > Miark > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SmartMedia reader recommendations
Hi all, I'd like to get rid of the jungle of wires that's passing itself off as a SmartMedia reader. What brand is the most Linux-friendly? What models? Thanks, Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
