Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
That's great news. Earlier this year, I installed XFree 4.0.3 thinking that if it is a higher revision, my card would work better. In fact, it was the opposite. I removed XFree 4.0.3 via the Software manager, set up my display to use XFree 3.3.6, rebooted my computer and it got fixed. I was informed by Mandrake that just because it's a higher revision it may not apply to your card. All in all it's a nice feeling. Roman Jay DeKing wrote: > > It's working now. The problem was the Xfree 4.0.3 graphics driver; my > previous install had that driver loaded, and despite going through the > Mandrake Control Center (as root) and telling it to use 3.3.6, the 4.0.3 > software was still lingering on the system. Reverting to 7.2 and upgrading > again to 8.0 (being very careful not to allow 4.0.3 to infect my system this > time) solved the problem. > > There was probably an easier way to accomplish this, but I needed to access > my data and had been banging my head against this problem for days. The idea > to reinstall without 4.0.3 didn't occur to me until later. > > Just glad to have LM8 running again with StarOffice along for the ride. > > Thanks for the suggestions, > Jay > > On Wednesday 04 July 2001 13:17, Jay DeKing wrote: > > I have a USB printer. No TV card, no network card. The only ISA card I have > > is my modem (only one ISA slot, the rest are PCI and AGP). The USB is > > integrated into the mobo. > > > > When the problem first manifested itself, I had the printer attached to the > > parallel port and nothing was using the USB ports. > > > > I just reinstalled 8.0, taking care NOT to install the 4.0.3 Xfree driver. > > The last time, I installed 4.0.3, and tried to go back to 3.3.6 when > > StarOffice froze, but I think that having 4.0.3 lingering around may have > > continued to cause problems. > > > > Haven't tried StarOffice yet. If it doesn't work, I'll bump Xfree up to > > 4.0.3 and apply the patch and try again. > > > > Jay > > > > On Wednesday 04 July 2001 07:13, etharp wrote: > > > you note that it works OK in MDK 7.2 do you have USB and do you use it? > > > the difference may be the IRQ for USB is causing the hang up. I found > > > that my network card, my USB and my TVcard all using the same irq caused > > > problems with MDK 8.0 and I had to move some of the cards around for a > > > different setup. > > > > > > On Wednesday 04 July 2001 02:44, Jay DeKing wrote: > > > > On Wed, 04 Jul 2001, Jay DeKing wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > > > > > Jay DeKing wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: > > > > > > > > > Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently > > > > > > > > > purchased Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. > > > > > > > > > Having worked in the Windows world for the past few years > > > > > > > > > it's great to see other operating systems coming about. The > > > > > > > > > install went very well and over all I'm impressed with the > > > > > > > > > ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a > > > > > > > > > but) After installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my > > > > > > > > > system hangs. This requires a reboot to get things > > > > > > > > > running again. I've been to the Sun site and the only thing > > > > > > > > > I've found is a recommendation to go back to a different > > > > > > > > > Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows > > > > > > > > > when) an upgrade. Therefore there will not be a patch > > > > > > > > > Has this been encountered by others? also Why would Mandrake > > > > > > > > > include it with their system if it wouldn't run properly? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you provide additional information about your computer > > > > > > > > configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try > > > > > > > > holding down the > > > > > > > > CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roman > > > > > > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > > > > > > Kmailer by Tux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have gone through this myself, and none of the many recommended > > > > > > > key combinations worked - the keyboard was COMPLETELY > > > > > > > unresponsive. The reset button was the only way out. So, I > > > > > > > reinstalled LM 7.2 and now am using StarOffice again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This feels like a video driver problem to me - the mouse pointer > > > > > > > freezes along with everything else. My video card is a Stealth > > > > > > > III S540, which was mentioned by several individuals on the > > > > > > > StarOffice site who are having the same problem. Since StarOffice > > > > > > > 5.2 worked fine in LM7.2, I would say that the problem does not > > > > > > > lie w
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
It's working now. The problem was the Xfree 4.0.3 graphics driver; my previous install had that driver loaded, and despite going through the Mandrake Control Center (as root) and telling it to use 3.3.6, the 4.0.3 software was still lingering on the system. Reverting to 7.2 and upgrading again to 8.0 (being very careful not to allow 4.0.3 to infect my system this time) solved the problem. There was probably an easier way to accomplish this, but I needed to access my data and had been banging my head against this problem for days. The idea to reinstall without 4.0.3 didn't occur to me until later. Just glad to have LM8 running again with StarOffice along for the ride. Thanks for the suggestions, Jay On Wednesday 04 July 2001 13:17, Jay DeKing wrote: > I have a USB printer. No TV card, no network card. The only ISA card I have > is my modem (only one ISA slot, the rest are PCI and AGP). The USB is > integrated into the mobo. > > When the problem first manifested itself, I had the printer attached to the > parallel port and nothing was using the USB ports. > > I just reinstalled 8.0, taking care NOT to install the 4.0.3 Xfree driver. > The last time, I installed 4.0.3, and tried to go back to 3.3.6 when > StarOffice froze, but I think that having 4.0.3 lingering around may have > continued to cause problems. > > Haven't tried StarOffice yet. If it doesn't work, I'll bump Xfree up to > 4.0.3 and apply the patch and try again. > > Jay > > On Wednesday 04 July 2001 07:13, etharp wrote: > > you note that it works OK in MDK 7.2 do you have USB and do you use it? > > the difference may be the IRQ for USB is causing the hang up. I found > > that my network card, my USB and my TVcard all using the same irq caused > > problems with MDK 8.0 and I had to move some of the cards around for a > > different setup. > > > > On Wednesday 04 July 2001 02:44, Jay DeKing wrote: > > > On Wed, 04 Jul 2001, Jay DeKing wrote: > > > > On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > > > > Jay DeKing wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > > > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: > > > > > > > > Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently > > > > > > > > purchased Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. > > > > > > > > Having worked in the Windows world for the past few years > > > > > > > > it's great to see other operating systems coming about. The > > > > > > > > install went very well and over all I'm impressed with the > > > > > > > > ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a > > > > > > > > but) After installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my > > > > > > > > system hangs. This requires a reboot to get things > > > > > > > > running again. I've been to the Sun site and the only thing > > > > > > > > I've found is a recommendation to go back to a different > > > > > > > > Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows > > > > > > > > when) an upgrade. Therefore there will not be a patch > > > > > > > > Has this been encountered by others? also Why would Mandrake > > > > > > > > include it with their system if it wouldn't run properly? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you provide additional information about your computer > > > > > > > configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try > > > > > > > holding down the > > > > > > > CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roman > > > > > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > > > > > Kmailer by Tux > > > > > > > > > > > > I have gone through this myself, and none of the many recommended > > > > > > key combinations worked - the keyboard was COMPLETELY > > > > > > unresponsive. The reset button was the only way out. So, I > > > > > > reinstalled LM 7.2 and now am using StarOffice again. > > > > > > > > > > > > This feels like a video driver problem to me - the mouse pointer > > > > > > freezes along with everything else. My video card is a Stealth > > > > > > III S540, which was mentioned by several individuals on the > > > > > > StarOffice site who are having the same problem. Since StarOffice > > > > > > 5.2 worked fine in LM7.2, I would say that the problem does not > > > > > > lie with StarOffice but with the X driver supplied with LM8. I've > > > > > > tried both the 4.0.3 and 3.3.6 drivers and the same thing happens > > > > > > with both. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > "You no longer change. You've changed!" > > > > > > > > > > I think you should ask Civileme. He can give you a better answer > > > > > about this > > > > > You may want try out a different kernel > > > > > > > > Also suggested by StarOffice website. > > > > Been there, done that (2.2.19mdk). No difference. > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > I downloaded a Savage4 driver patch from > > >
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
Jay DeKing wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > Jay DeKing wrote: > > > On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: > > > > > Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently purchased > > > > > Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having worked in the > > > > > Windows world for the past few years it's great to see other > > > > > operating systems coming about. The install went very well and over > > > > > all I'm impressed with the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it > > > > > comes,,, always a but) After installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to > > > > > open it my system hangs. This requires a reboot to get things > > > > > running again. I've been to the Sun site and the only thing I've > > > > > found is a recommendation to go back to a different Kernel and that > > > > > StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows when) an upgrade. Therefore > > > > > there will not be a patch Has this been encountered by others? > > > > > also Why would Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't > > > > > run properly? > > > > > > > > > > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > > > > > Can you provide additional information about your computer > > > > configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try holding down > > > > the > > > > CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. > > > > > > > > Roman > > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > > Kmailer by Tux > > > > > > I have gone through this myself, and none of the many recommended key > > > combinations worked - the keyboard was COMPLETELY unresponsive. The reset > > > button was the only way out. So, I reinstalled LM 7.2 and now am using > > > StarOffice again. > > > > > > This feels like a video driver problem to me - the mouse pointer freezes > > > along with everything else. My video card is a Stealth III S540, which > > > was mentioned by several individuals on the StarOffice site who are > > > having the same problem. Since StarOffice 5.2 worked fine in LM7.2, I > > > would say that the problem does not lie with StarOffice but with the X > > > driver supplied with LM8. I've tried both the 4.0.3 and 3.3.6 drivers and > > > the same thing happens with both. > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > -- > > > "You no longer change. You've changed!" > > > > I think you should ask Civileme. He can give you a better answer about > > this > > You may want try out a different kernel > > > > Also suggested by StarOffice website. > Been there, done that (2.2.19mdk). No difference. > > Jay > -- > "Support your local law enforcement agency - > this week commit the crime of your choice!" As in my earlier response, you want want to address this to Civileme. He is better informed about the insides of this issue Roman Registered Linux User #179293 This email is powered by the Tux Email Utility
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
I have a USB printer. No TV card, no network card. The only ISA card I have is my modem (only one ISA slot, the rest are PCI and AGP). The USB is integrated into the mobo. When the problem first manifested itself, I had the printer attached to the parallel port and nothing was using the USB ports. I just reinstalled 8.0, taking care NOT to install the 4.0.3 Xfree driver. The last time, I installed 4.0.3, and tried to go back to 3.3.6 when StarOffice froze, but I think that having 4.0.3 lingering around may have continued to cause problems. Haven't tried StarOffice yet. If it doesn't work, I'll bump Xfree up to 4.0.3 and apply the patch and try again. Jay On Wednesday 04 July 2001 07:13, etharp wrote: > you note that it works OK in MDK 7.2 do you have USB and do you use it? the > difference may be the IRQ for USB is causing the hang up. I found that my > network card, my USB and my TVcard all using the same irq caused problems > with MDK 8.0 and I had to move some of the cards around for a different > setup. > > On Wednesday 04 July 2001 02:44, Jay DeKing wrote: > > On Wed, 04 Jul 2001, Jay DeKing wrote: > > > On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > > > Jay DeKing wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: > > > > > > > Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently > > > > > > > purchased Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having > > > > > > > worked in the Windows world for the past few years it's great > > > > > > > to see other operating systems coming about. The install went > > > > > > > very well and over all I'm impressed with the ease Mandrake 8.0 > > > > > > > loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a but) After installing > > > > > > > Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my system hangs. This > > > > > > > requires a reboot to get things running again. I've been to the > > > > > > > Sun site and the only thing I've found is a recommendation to > > > > > > > go back to a different Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out > > > > > > > with (Who knows when) an upgrade. Therefore there will not be a > > > > > > > patch Has this been encountered by others? also Why would > > > > > > > Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't run > > > > > > > properly? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you provide additional information about your computer > > > > > > configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try > > > > > > holding down the > > > > > > CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Roman > > > > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > > > > Kmailer by Tux > > > > > > > > > > I have gone through this myself, and none of the many recommended > > > > > key combinations worked - the keyboard was COMPLETELY unresponsive. > > > > > The reset button was the only way out. So, I reinstalled LM 7.2 and > > > > > now am using StarOffice again. > > > > > > > > > > This feels like a video driver problem to me - the mouse pointer > > > > > freezes along with everything else. My video card is a Stealth III > > > > > S540, which was mentioned by several individuals on the StarOffice > > > > > site who are having the same problem. Since StarOffice 5.2 worked > > > > > fine in LM7.2, I would say that the problem does not lie with > > > > > StarOffice but with the X driver supplied with LM8. I've tried both > > > > > the 4.0.3 and 3.3.6 drivers and the same thing happens with both. > > > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > "You no longer change. You've changed!" > > > > > > > > I think you should ask Civileme. He can give you a better answer > > > > about this > > > > You may want try out a different kernel > > > > > > Also suggested by StarOffice website. > > > Been there, done that (2.2.19mdk). No difference. > > > > > > Jay > > > > I downloaded a Savage4 driver patch from > > http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html and will give that a try. > > > > Jay -- "Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!"
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
On Wed, 04 Jul 2001, Jay DeKing wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > Jay DeKing wrote: > > > On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: > > > > > Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently > > > > > purchased Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having > > > > > worked in the Windows world for the past few years it's great to > > > > > see other operating systems coming about. The install went very > > > > > well and over all I'm impressed with the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded > > > > > up, but (Here it comes,,, always a but) After installing Staroffice > > > > > 5.2 and trying to open it my system hangs. This requires a > > > > > reboot to get things running again. I've been to the Sun site and > > > > > the only thing I've found is a recommendation to go back to a > > > > > different Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows > > > > > when) an upgrade. Therefore there will not be a patch Has this > > > > > been encountered by others? also Why would Mandrake include it with > > > > > their system if it wouldn't run properly? > > > > > > > > > > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > Robert, > > > > > > > > Can you provide additional information about your computer > > > > configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try holding > > > > down the > > > > CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. > > > > > > > > Roman > > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > > Kmailer by Tux > > > > > > I have gone through this myself, and none of the many recommended key > > > combinations worked - the keyboard was COMPLETELY unresponsive. The > > > reset button was the only way out. So, I reinstalled LM 7.2 and now am > > > using StarOffice again. > > > > > > This feels like a video driver problem to me - the mouse pointer > > > freezes along with everything else. My video card is a Stealth III > > > S540, which was mentioned by several individuals on the StarOffice site > > > who are having the same problem. Since StarOffice 5.2 worked fine in > > > LM7.2, I would say that the problem does not lie with StarOffice but > > > with the X driver supplied with LM8. I've tried both the 4.0.3 and > > > 3.3.6 drivers and the same thing happens with both. > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > -- > > > "You no longer change. You've changed!" > > > > I think you should ask Civileme. He can give you a better answer about > > this > > You may want try out a different kernel > > Also suggested by StarOffice website. > Been there, done that (2.2.19mdk). No difference. > > Jay I downloaded a Savage4 driver patch from http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html and will give that a try. Jay -- "Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!"
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > Jay DeKing wrote: > > On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: > > > On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: > > > > Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently purchased > > > > Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having worked in the > > > > Windows world for the past few years it's great to see other > > > > operating systems coming about. The install went very well and over > > > > all I'm impressed with the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it > > > > comes,,, always a but) After installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to > > > > open it my system hangs. This requires a reboot to get things > > > > running again. I've been to the Sun site and the only thing I've > > > > found is a recommendation to go back to a different Kernel and that > > > > StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows when) an upgrade. Therefore > > > > there will not be a patch Has this been encountered by others? > > > > also Why would Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't > > > > run properly? > > > > > > > > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > Robert, > > > > > > Can you provide additional information about your computer > > > configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try holding down > > > the > > > CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. > > > > > > Roman > > > Registered Linux User #179293 > > > Kmailer by Tux > > > > I have gone through this myself, and none of the many recommended key > > combinations worked - the keyboard was COMPLETELY unresponsive. The reset > > button was the only way out. So, I reinstalled LM 7.2 and now am using > > StarOffice again. > > > > This feels like a video driver problem to me - the mouse pointer freezes > > along with everything else. My video card is a Stealth III S540, which > > was mentioned by several individuals on the StarOffice site who are > > having the same problem. Since StarOffice 5.2 worked fine in LM7.2, I > > would say that the problem does not lie with StarOffice but with the X > > driver supplied with LM8. I've tried both the 4.0.3 and 3.3.6 drivers and > > the same thing happens with both. > > > > Jay > > > > -- > > "You no longer change. You've changed!" > > I think you should ask Civileme. He can give you a better answer about > this > You may want try out a different kernel > Also suggested by StarOffice website. Been there, done that (2.2.19mdk). No difference. Jay -- "Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!"
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: > Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently purchased > Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having worked in the Windows > world for the past few years it's great to see other operating systems > coming about. The install went very well and over all I'm impressed with > the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a but) After > installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my system hangs. This > requires a reboot to get things running again. I've been to the Sun site > and the only thing I've found is a recommendation to go back to a different > Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows when) an upgrade. > Therefore there will not be a patch Has this been encountered by > others? also Why would Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't > run properly? > > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > Robert Robert, Can you provide additional information about your computer configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try holding down the CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Kmailer by Tux
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
you did run "star office setup as a user first didn't you? On Sunday 01 July 2001 17:42, RobertLuzader wrote: > Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently purchased > Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having worked in the Windows > world for the past few years it's great to see other operating systems > coming about. The install went very well and over all I'm impressed with > the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a but) After > installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my system hangs. This > requires a reboot to get things running again. I've been to the Sun site > and the only thing I've found is a recommendation to go back to a different > Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows when) an upgrade. > Therefore there will not be a patch Has this been encountered by > others? also Why would Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't > run properly? > > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > Robert
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
Robert, I have also the powerPack Edition but I had a staroffice file downloaded before from sun URL and it works fine. Did you install it as root and then as user? or you just make a whole install? Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) El Dom 01 Jul 2001 23:42, escribiste: > Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently purchased > Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having worked in the Windows > world for the past few years it's great to see other operating systems > coming about. The install went very well and over all I'm impressed with > the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a but) After > installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my system hangs. This > requires a reboot to get things running again. I've been to the Sun site > and the only thing I've found is a recommendation to go back to a different > Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows when) an upgrade. > Therefore there will not be a patch Has this been encountered by > others? also Why would Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't > run properly? > > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > Robert
[newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently purchased Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having worked in the Windows world for the past few years it's great to see other operating systems coming about. The install went very well and over all I'm impressed with the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a but) After installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my system hangs. This requires a reboot to get things running again. I've been to the Sun site and the only thing I've found is a recommendation to go back to a different Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows when) an upgrade. Therefore there will not be a patch Has this been encountered by others? also Why would Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't run properly? Any guidance would be appreciated. Robert
