[newbie] Swap Partition missing
When I installed Mandrake 7.2 I neglected to set up a Swap Partition believe it or not. How it happened, like J. Buffetts tattoo, I haven't a clue. Can I fix this any way? I was thinking of using Partition Magic to create and format one and hope to have Mandrake recognize it? Maybe by editing fstab or something like that. Is there another way short of reinstalling? Thank you.
Re: [newbie] Swap partition
If the mud is dried...a first step might be a small tough bristle brush and maybe a vacuum cleaner, and then the alcohol and q-tips...just a thought. Bambi Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > Mud on your motherboard?!?!?! Holy Schmidt!@ > > I suggest you buy some isopropol alcohol and q-tips > and maybe some really soft rags and get that mud off > of that board. Simple dust can cause heat build up > and electrical disturbances on a motherboard which > translate to random locks, crashes, corrupted data and > so on. > > Unplug the board from all electrical input, pull all > of the peripherals off (i'd take everything off, cpu, > ram, all of it.) And wipe it down gently with a > slightly dampened with that alcohol rag/q-tip until it > is all clean. You will probably see a bit of an > improvement in your overall performance and stability. > You will definately increase the life expectancy of > your computer. > > It is my experience that kde seems a bit slow when > coming form wandows. I've got 384 megs of ram and it > still isn't FAST but it is stable as all hell and fast > enough that I never get frustrated with it. > > Good luck!!! > > Dacia > > --- Darryl Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Glasscock wrote: > > > > > > Swap can only use the same amount of HD space as > > you have RAM. It > > > makes no sense to create a large swap partion > > unless you have immenent > > > plans to increase the amount of RAM you have in > > your machine, which > > > with linux is always a good thing to do. > > > > Ok, there seems to be as many opinions on this issue > > as there are linux > > users. I've heard that you should have twice the > > amount of swap space as > > you do ram. > > > > > The only problem with DiskDrake (and it is only a > > minor quibble) is > > > that you can't easily manipulate where you want > > your partitions to > > > go. You have to think and plan ahead, and then > > set them sequentially, > > > ideally starting with a 32 MB /boot partition at > > the front of the > > > disk, then your / partition, usw. > > > > Ok, I think I'm in good shape here. The first 32 > > cylinder (16m) is my > > /boot partition, cylinders 33-19818 (9738m) is my / > > partition, and the > > the remaining cylinders, 19819-19885 are my 32m swap > > partition. > > > > > Your system may be maxed out on ram, and I don't > > think I would spend > > > much on it. > > > > Nope, two of my four slots are open. > > > > > However, its usefulness is far from over. It > > would make > > > a decent print server or firewall. How big is > > your harddrive? How > > > fast is it? > > > > The hd. is a WD 10 gig, IDE, less than six months > > old. I don't have > > permission to few /var/log/dmesg, so I can't give > > you the details at the > > moment. > > > > > Newbies > > > probably NEVER touch their swap anyway until they > > have become familiar > > > with downloading source code and doing recompiles > > of the kernal. Once > > > you do that, you graduate to the next level :-) > > > > Ok, the motivation for this endeavor was my > > roomate's comment that "its > > slow," refering to KDE. I thought I might speed > > things up with more swap > > space. I certainly have no complaints! > > > > My roomate is biased though, he thinks I'm wasting > > my time with linux, > > and this is after he spent $8k for a six month Help > > Desk course for > > Windoze NT/2000. > > > > Also, I'm very fond of this box. Last Septemeber it > > was under 30 feet of > > water when Floyd flooded Bound Brook, NJ. My roomate > > literally pulled it > > out of the mud, which still clings to the > > motherboard. (I'm afraid to > > clean it off, if it's not broke, don't fix it.) All > > I did was replace > > the HD and monitor, and voila, I had my first 586. > > > > > Hope this is informative, and please correct me if > > I'm wrong. > > > > Every post on this list is informative, and > > appreciated. > > > > Darryl Gibson > > Linux Neophyte (tm) > > RLU # 182668 > > This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Swap partition
Dacia and AzureRose wrote: > > Mud on your motherboard?!?!?! Holy Schmidt!@ > > I suggest you buy some isopropol alcohol and q-tips Yes yes, I understand the implications. The "mud" is only on the solder side of the motherboard, and it's only a very fine patina, that was left behind when the water receeded. If it was on the component side, I would have run the board thru the dishwasher. Yep, that's right, the dishwasher, which we had to do with the other half dozen boxes we fished out of the Raritan River. Though we did have to remove some of the Dallas Semi chips, since they aren't hermetacly (sp) sealed. We salvaged seven boxes all together, and they are all functional, after replacing the hard drives and monitors. > It is my experience that kde seems a bit slow when > coming form wandows. I've got 384 megs of ram and it > still isn't FAST but it is stable as all hell and fast > enough that I never get frustrated with it. Fine buisness, like I said, I'm not complaining, it's my roomate, who still likes his windoze boxes. Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] Swap partition
Mud on your motherboard?!?!?! Holy Schmidt!@ I suggest you buy some isopropol alcohol and q-tips and maybe some really soft rags and get that mud off of that board. Simple dust can cause heat build up and electrical disturbances on a motherboard which translate to random locks, crashes, corrupted data and so on. Unplug the board from all electrical input, pull all of the peripherals off (i'd take everything off, cpu, ram, all of it.) And wipe it down gently with a slightly dampened with that alcohol rag/q-tip until it is all clean. You will probably see a bit of an improvement in your overall performance and stability. You will definately increase the life expectancy of your computer. It is my experience that kde seems a bit slow when coming form wandows. I've got 384 megs of ram and it still isn't FAST but it is stable as all hell and fast enough that I never get frustrated with it. Good luck!!! Dacia --- Darryl Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Glasscock wrote: > > > > Swap can only use the same amount of HD space as > you have RAM. It > > makes no sense to create a large swap partion > unless you have immenent > > plans to increase the amount of RAM you have in > your machine, which > > with linux is always a good thing to do. > > Ok, there seems to be as many opinions on this issue > as there are linux > users. I've heard that you should have twice the > amount of swap space as > you do ram. > > > The only problem with DiskDrake (and it is only a > minor quibble) is > > that you can't easily manipulate where you want > your partitions to > > go. You have to think and plan ahead, and then > set them sequentially, > > ideally starting with a 32 MB /boot partition at > the front of the > > disk, then your / partition, usw. > > Ok, I think I'm in good shape here. The first 32 > cylinder (16m) is my > /boot partition, cylinders 33-19818 (9738m) is my / > partition, and the > the remaining cylinders, 19819-19885 are my 32m swap > partition. > > > Your system may be maxed out on ram, and I don't > think I would spend > > much on it. > > Nope, two of my four slots are open. > > > However, its usefulness is far from over. It > would make > > a decent print server or firewall. How big is > your harddrive? How > > fast is it? > > The hd. is a WD 10 gig, IDE, less than six months > old. I don't have > permission to few /var/log/dmesg, so I can't give > you the details at the > moment. > > > Newbies > > probably NEVER touch their swap anyway until they > have become familiar > > with downloading source code and doing recompiles > of the kernal. Once > > you do that, you graduate to the next level :-) > > Ok, the motivation for this endeavor was my > roomate's comment that "its > slow," refering to KDE. I thought I might speed > things up with more swap > space. I certainly have no complaints! > > My roomate is biased though, he thinks I'm wasting > my time with linux, > and this is after he spent $8k for a six month Help > Desk course for > Windoze NT/2000. > > Also, I'm very fond of this box. Last Septemeber it > was under 30 feet of > water when Floyd flooded Bound Brook, NJ. My roomate > literally pulled it > out of the mud, which still clings to the > motherboard. (I'm afraid to > clean it off, if it's not broke, don't fix it.) All > I did was replace > the HD and monitor, and voila, I had my first 586. > > > Hope this is informative, and please correct me if > I'm wrong. > > Every post on this list is informative, and > appreciated. > > Darryl Gibson > Linux Neophyte (tm) > RLU # 182668 > This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Swap partition
John Glasscock wrote: > > Swap can only use the same amount of HD space as you have RAM. It > makes no sense to create a large swap partion unless you have immenent > plans to increase the amount of RAM you have in your machine, which > with linux is always a good thing to do. Ok, there seems to be as many opinions on this issue as there are linux users. I've heard that you should have twice the amount of swap space as you do ram. > The only problem with DiskDrake (and it is only a minor quibble) is > that you can't easily manipulate where you want your partitions to > go. You have to think and plan ahead, and then set them sequentially, > ideally starting with a 32 MB /boot partition at the front of the > disk, then your / partition, usw. Ok, I think I'm in good shape here. The first 32 cylinder (16m) is my /boot partition, cylinders 33-19818 (9738m) is my / partition, and the the remaining cylinders, 19819-19885 are my 32m swap partition. > Your system may be maxed out on ram, and I don't think I would spend > much on it. Nope, two of my four slots are open. > However, its usefulness is far from over. It would make > a decent print server or firewall. How big is your harddrive? How > fast is it? The hd. is a WD 10 gig, IDE, less than six months old. I don't have permission to few /var/log/dmesg, so I can't give you the details at the moment. > Newbies > probably NEVER touch their swap anyway until they have become familiar > with downloading source code and doing recompiles of the kernal. Once > you do that, you graduate to the next level :-) Ok, the motivation for this endeavor was my roomate's comment that "its slow," refering to KDE. I thought I might speed things up with more swap space. I certainly have no complaints! My roomate is biased though, he thinks I'm wasting my time with linux, and this is after he spent $8k for a six month Help Desk course for Windoze NT/2000. Also, I'm very fond of this box. Last Septemeber it was under 30 feet of water when Floyd flooded Bound Brook, NJ. My roomate literally pulled it out of the mud, which still clings to the motherboard. (I'm afraid to clean it off, if it's not broke, don't fix it.) All I did was replace the HD and monitor, and voila, I had my first 586. > Hope this is informative, and please correct me if I'm wrong. Every post on this list is informative, and appreciated. Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] Swap partition
Charles A Edwards wrote: > > Darryl > Yes to both questions. As usual, it was easier said than done. I can't unmount me / partition to free up space for the swap partition. Diskdrake tells me something is busy on the / partition, which makes sense. I thought I might be able to work around that by loading diskdrake from my cd-rom, but I can't find it. This may be a mute issue, John G. has asked me numerous questions which I should address before proceeding. Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] Swap partition
I think that the easiest thing to do would be to add a 250 MB partition, so that you won't have to resize anything. Use fdisk, cfdisk, or any other disk partitionner, and create a 250 MB swap parttion (let's say you do it in /dev/hdb2). Then, initialize the swap partition : mkswap /dev/hdb2 in your /etc/fstab, add a line : /dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0 and activate your swaps : swapon -a And you now should have two swap partition of each 250 MB. HTH Flupke On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Edison Gica wrote: > Hi all: > > I installed LM 7 under Recommended and the swap partition was set to 250MB. > I want to increase my swap to 500MB. any help would be sincerely > appreciated. > > thanks. > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > -- << There's no place like ~ ! >>
Re: [newbie] swap partition needed with 128 meg ?
> Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > hello, > > Is it necessary / useful to use a swap partition with 128 meg RAM and > a PIII 667MHz to run Linux mandrake 7.0? I didn't found information in > the installation guide or howtos. > If so, how big should this swap partition be128 meg? > > bye, > Sven. I have 128 too, and I have a 256 meg swap partition. With disk space as cheap as it is now adays, what's 256 meg? You'd probably be fine with a 128 meg swap, but the way I see it is if you want it in the future it's more difficult to repartition ;-) (I don't know that I've ever used even 128 of it yet, but it doesn't hurt to have surplus)
Re: [[newbie] swap partition needed with 128 meg ?]
"Sven Vermeulen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello, > > Is it necessary / useful to use a swap partition with 128 meg RAM and a PIII 667MHz to run Linux mandrake 7.0? I didn't found information in the installation guide or howtos. > If so, how big should this swap partition be128 meg? > > bye, > Sven. Even w/128M (which is not a huge amount nowadays) you should still create a swap partition. You don't sya how you use your computer or what kinds of programs you will typically try to run, but I would think 128M swap would be a good idea, even if little of it is typically used. Mike "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Frankilin Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] swap partition needed with 128 meg ?
William S. Laskorski said: > It is recommended to create a swap partition of a size that's about > twice the amount > of physical ram in your system. Therefore, if you have 128 meg of ram, > make the > swap file 250 meg. That is what is recommended. I read a pretty good article to the effect that that "rule" was set back when people had less than 64M of RAM. I don't think it's valid any more. More to the point is the kind of work you're going to be doing. Major graphics, for example, takes lots of swap. -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Using Linux to get where I want to go...
Re: [newbie] swap partition needed with 128 meg ?
It is recommended to create a swap partition of a size that's about twice the amount of physical ram in your system. Therefore, if you have 128 meg of ram, make the swap file 250 meg. That is what is recommended. As for why Linux needs a swap file with 128 meg of ram? I'm asking the same question. LOL Spektyr Sven Vermeulen wrote: hello, Is it necessary / useful to use a swap partition with 128 meg RAM and a PIII 667MHz to run Linux mandrake 7.0? I didn't found information in the installation guide or howtos.If so, how big should this swap partition be128 meg? bye,Sven.
[newbie] swap partition needed with 128 meg ?
hello, Is it necessary / useful to use a swap partition with 128 meg RAM and a PIII 667MHz to run Linux mandrake 7.0? I didn't found information in the installation guide or howtos. If so, how big should this swap partition be128 meg? bye, Sven.
Re: [newbie] Swap partition size
Bernhard stated that since the 2.1.x kernel there is NO LONGER A LIMIT ON THE SWAP partition!! Rhichard Barth & Family wrote: > > > > Linda and Mike wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am going to be reinstalling again, but since our last install, we updated > > our > > system with a new motherboard, chipset to 450/100MHZ, and doubled our RAM > > from > > 128 to 256. Can we make one swap partition size of 256 or do we have to > > make 2 > > partitions of 128MG each? > > > > Linda > > > > At 09:02 PM 6/5/99 +0200, you wrote: > > >On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Hidong Kim wrote: > > > > > >> I'm pretty sure the maximum allowable single swap partition size is 128 > > >> mb. > > > > > >No longer. It used to be until some 2.1 kernel (2.1.25, I think). > > > > > >LLaP > > >bero > > > > > > > > > > > What is the max swap file size, or is there no limit(based on your ram) > I to have 256 and ran two 128's > It works but if I don't need it I would rather stick with one swap file > > > Rhich > Icq8150164 -- Philip C. Hewitt II Power to the Penguin
Re: [newbie] Swap partition size
Linda and Mike wrote: Hi, I am going to be reinstalling again, but since our last install, we updated our system with a new motherboard, chipset to 450/100MHZ, and doubled our RAM from 128 to 256. Can we make one swap partition size of 256 or do we have to make 2 partitions of 128MG each? Linda At 09:02 PM 6/5/99 +0200, you wrote: >On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Hidong Kim wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure the maximum allowable single swap partition size is 128 >> mb. > >No longer. It used to be until some 2.1 kernel (2.1.25, I think). > >LLaP >bero > > > What is the max swap file size, or is there no limit(based on your ram) I to have 256 and ran two 128's It works but if I don't need it I would rather stick with one swap file Rhich Icq8150164
[newbie] Swap partition size
Hi, I am going to be reinstalling again, but since our last install, we updated our system with a new motherboard, chipset to 450/100MHZ, and doubled our RAM from 128 to 256. Can we make one swap partition size of 256 or do we have to make 2 partitions of 128MG each? Linda At 09:02 PM 6/5/99 +0200, you wrote: >On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Hidong Kim wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure the maximum allowable single swap partition size is 128 >> mb. > >No longer. It used to be until some 2.1 kernel (2.1.25, I think). > >LLaP >bero > > >
