Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
On Thursday 08 July 2004 07:21 pm, John Rye wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:54:00 -0400 > > Carroll Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 08 July 2004 01:17 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: > > > On Thursday 08 Jul 2004 3:16 am, Justin Grote wrote: > > > > RU> That's true if you're deciding between C, Java and Ada, but many > > > > RU> languages are very different. > > > > > > > > I'm sorry if I implied that. I meant in general. You could have > > > > written a connection graph from a network capture in C, and you > > > > could have written an expect-style script in Bash or C, it doesn't > > > > mean it'd be EASY or best-suited. > > > > > > > > Once again, right tool for right job. BTW, I am totally agreeing > > > > with you. :) > > > > > > And likewise a C vs. Java argument is largely religious, and there are > > > other sets of languages that are similarly close to each other. > > > > I'm just glad that no one mentioned APL. > > -- cmg > > nor PL/2 Not since Harley Was One > > John (nz) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
Hi All, I think PERL is also a very good language and it is available free !! You can do almost any thing using PERL so also there are hundreds of modules available to suit specific requirement. Try it.. ~Sujit.. John Rye wrote: On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:54:00 -0400 Carroll Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 08 July 2004 01:17 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: On Thursday 08 Jul 2004 3:16 am, Justin Grote wrote: RU> That's true if you're deciding between C, Java and Ada, but many RU> languages are very different. I'm sorry if I implied that. I meant in general. You could have written a connection graph from a network capture in C, and you could have written an expect-style script in Bash or C, it doesn't mean it'd be EASY or best-suited. Once again, right tool for right job. BTW, I am totally agreeing with you. :) And likewise a C vs. Java argument is largely religious, and there are other sets of languages that are similarly close to each other. I'm just glad that no one mentioned APL. -- cmg nor PL/2 John (nz) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- suapte Sujit Apte Sr. Engineer MCAD QA (Detail) PTC +91 20 6682135 Ext. 340
Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:54:00 -0400 Carroll Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 08 July 2004 01:17 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: > > On Thursday 08 Jul 2004 3:16 am, Justin Grote wrote: > > > RU> That's true if you're deciding between C, Java and Ada, but many > > > RU> languages are very different. > > > > > > I'm sorry if I implied that. I meant in general. You could have > > > written a connection graph from a network capture in C, and you > > > could have written an expect-style script in Bash or C, it doesn't > > > mean it'd be EASY or best-suited. > > > > > > Once again, right tool for right job. BTW, I am totally agreeing > > > with you. :) > > > > And likewise a C vs. Java argument is largely religious, and there are > > other sets of languages that are similarly close to each other. > > I'm just glad that no one mentioned APL. > -- cmg nor PL/2 John (nz) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
On Thursday 08 July 2004 01:17 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: > On Thursday 08 Jul 2004 3:16 am, Justin Grote wrote: > > RU> That's true if you're deciding between C, Java and Ada, but many > > RU> languages are very different. > > > > I'm sorry if I implied that. I meant in general. You could have > > written a connection graph from a network capture in C, and you could > > have written an expect-style script in Bash or C, it doesn't mean > > it'd be EASY or best-suited. > > > > Once again, right tool for right job. BTW, I am totally agreeing with > > you. :) > > And likewise a C vs. Java argument is largely religious, and there are > other sets of languages that are similarly close to each other. I'm just glad that no one mentioned APL. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
On Thursday 08 Jul 2004 3:16 am, Justin Grote wrote: > RU> That's true if you're deciding between C, Java and Ada, but many > RU> languages are very different. > > I'm sorry if I implied that. I meant in general. You could have > written a connection graph from a network capture in C, and you could > have written an expect-style script in Bash or C, it doesn't mean > it'd be EASY or best-suited. > > Once again, right tool for right job. BTW, I am totally agreeing with > you. :) And likewise a C vs. Java argument is largely religious, and there are other sets of languages that are similarly close to each other. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re[2]: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
RU> That's true if you're deciding between C, Java and Ada, but many RU> languages are very different. I'm sorry if I implied that. I meant in general. You could have written a connection graph from a network capture in C, and you could have written an expect-style script in Bash or C, it doesn't mean it'd be EASY or best-suited. Once again, right tool for right job. BTW, I am totally agreeing with you. :) __ Justin Grote Network Architect, CCNA JWG Networks Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) Phone: (208) 631-5440 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
On Sunday 04 Jul 2004 10:39 pm, Justin Grote wrote: > JW> It's the best tool for the best job. In many cases the best > combination of JW> tools, in fact. > Picking a programming language is like picking a religion. There may > be some merits for one over the other in certain areas, but they are > all trying in general to accomplish the same thing. That's true if you're deciding between C, Java and Ada, but many languages are very different. My last three projects were programmed in C, Bash and Expect. For each of them, choosing either of the other languages would have been disasterous. C: a compiler Bash: creating a connection graph from a network capture. (Taking one ASCII stream and generating another.) Expect: automating the control of a microcontroller programmer (serial port protocol). -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re[2]: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
JW> It's the best tool for the best job. In many cases the best combination of JW> tools, in fact. This is a good point. One of the great things about free (as in freedom) software is the ability to stitch things together. For instance, I needed a way to track cisco router configuration changes without springing the $$$ for Ciscoworks. So I took RANCID (a C/Perl/Expect program that collects configs and stores them in CVS), and tied it to Chora (a PHP-based CVS viewer). A little tweaking here and there, and I had a program that would automatically download configs and give me a very nice web-based interface to track those configurations (and notify me by email if certain things had changed). Picking a programming language is like picking a religion. There may be some merits for one over the other in certain areas, but they are all trying in general to accomplish the same thing. __ Justin Grote Network Architect, CCNA The Whistlepunk Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) Phone: (208) 631-5440 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
On July 4, 2004 03:30 am, EE wrote: > Hi all, > > What is the most popular langauge that linux gurus are using to make > programs under linux? Is it C, C++, Python, Tcl, etc? > > Best Rgards Just to be a pest..all of the above plus Java, Ruby and, occasionally, the Borland port of Delphi (the name of which I can't remember at the moment.) :-) Sorry, no VB or VBA here. Virus enabled languages are frowned on. It's the best tool for the best job. In many cases the best combination of tools, in fact. ttfn John -- *** Composed on a 100% Microsoft Free Computer Guaranteed Virus Free Mandrake Linux 10.0 OE *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re[2]: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
r> EE wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> What is the most popular langauge that linux gurus are using to make >> programs under linux? Is it C, C++, Python, Tcl, etc? r> What kind of programming you are talking about? The Linux kernel is r> written in C. Most big applications are written in C or C++. Python and r> Perl are popular for smaller applications (see the recent thread on r> scripting languages). Then of course there's Java, which is a world unto r> itself. It all depends on what you want to do - you can compare the r> relative merits of, say, Perl and Python, but you can't really compare r> Perl and C. r> Sir Robin It's just like Windows or any other OS, you use the right tool for the right job. If you need to write an engine that has to be really fast, C is "close to the machine" and tends to perform better. If you want to automate a boring task and use a quick and easy language, BASH shell scripting, Perl or PHP CLI work well. If you want object-oriented features and flexibility, Java or Python is usually the way to go. Again, I have my own preferences, but there are lots of great languages that are useful in their own right. For instance, I do most of my stuff in PHP and Perl because I mostly just write network scripts that use SNMP or automate other boring tasks, and I like something thats fast to develop in. Thats just me. However, depending on your goal, as always, YMMV (your Mileage may vary) __ Justin Grote Network Architect, CCNA The Whistlepunk Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove nospam-) Phone: (208) 631-5440 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
EE wrote: Hi all, What is the most popular langauge that linux gurus are using to make programs under linux? Is it C, C++, Python, Tcl, etc? What kind of programming you are talking about? The Linux kernel is written in C. Most big applications are written in C or C++. Python and Perl are popular for smaller applications (see the recent thread on scripting languages). Then of course there's Java, which is a world unto itself. It all depends on what you want to do - you can compare the relative merits of, say, Perl and Python, but you can't really compare Perl and C. Sir Robin -- "I have detailed files." - Terminator II Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] The Most Popular Programming Language in Linux
Hi all, What is the most popular langauge that linux gurus are using to make programs under linux? Is it C, C++, Python, Tcl, etc? Best Rgards Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
