Re: [newbie] Upgrading RedHat?
I would actually suggest, to just leave the /home directory, but let the "upgrade" handle the /etc. But if you install, then drop in your /home and /etc you could cause problems for yourself. Because the install will write over the files that it needs, like .cshrc, .bashrc, or any other .shellrc kind of file. Since you're talking about going from RedHATE to Mandrake, it's best to let the system itself change those, unless you are comfortable enough editing those files manually to get them to work. But if you copy in your /home you'll still have your .aliases, and other config files for various apps. Apps like gimp, aim, and licq come to mind. This is easier if you have two HDD in the machine, of which /home is on a separate drive, but if they're not and you have /home on it's own partition, this shouldn't cause you a problem at all. tdh p.s. I like that signature! lol T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.unixtechs.org/ "Real Men use Vi." * A V Flinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010331 06:34]: > What about doing the following > - Backup /home & /etc > - Do a complete install > - Restore /home & /etc > > This would keep most things the same, of course you will loose anything > not installed by rpm or after installation of RH & anything that was not > part of both the RH & Mandrake installs. > > -- > Alex > Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Upgrading RedHat?
On Saturday 31 March 2001 11:41, you wrote: > On Friday 30 March 2001 15:24, you wrote: > > On Friday 30 March 2001 08:43, you wrote: > > > Hi. > > > Is it possible to upgrade from RedHat 7.0 to Mandrake 7.2 without > > > loosing too much information? > > > What kind of info do I risk to loose? > > > We've got qmail with vmail and courier on that machine right now > > > and we don't look forward to loosing all the mail and accounts or > > > the configurations. > > > > > > I'd be grateful for any help or comments onthis. > > > > > > /Patrik > > > > I think RedHat 7.0 and Mandrake 7.2 are essentially similar in terms > > of kernel, etc. Why would you even take the chance of upgrading from > > a distro to a distro, besides I am sure that it cannot be done. > > Remember the old adage, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. > > Ummm you could upgrade from RH 7.0 to Mandrake 8.0 reasonably easily > but an upgrade to 7.2 is not possible--there are binary > incompatibilities from differing libraries, incompatible binary rpm > packages, and rpm versions, and even different compilers! We chose to > stay with glibc2.1 and rpm3 one generation of software longer than RH, > because we felt the compiler was not yet stable enough for general use, > and the package of compiler, lib, and rpm version were not easily > separable. > > Civileme What about doing the following - Backup /home & /etc - Do a complete install - Restore /home & /etc This would keep most things the same, of course you will loose anything not installed by rpm or after installation of RH & anything that was not part of both the RH & Mandrake installs. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Upgrading RedHat?
On Friday 30 March 2001 15:24, you wrote: > On Friday 30 March 2001 08:43, you wrote: > > Hi. > > Is it possible to upgrade from RedHat 7.0 to Mandrake 7.2 without loosing > > too much information? > > What kind of info do I risk to loose? > > We've got qmail with vmail and courier on that machine right now and we > > don't look forward to loosing all the mail and accounts or the > > configurations. > > > > I'd be grateful for any help or comments onthis. > > > > /Patrik > > I think RedHat 7.0 and Mandrake 7.2 are essentially similar in terms of > kernel, etc. Why would you even take the chance of upgrading from a distro > to a distro, besides I am sure that it cannot be done. Remember the old > adage, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Ummm you could upgrade from RH 7.0 to Mandrake 8.0 reasonably easily but an upgrade to 7.2 is not possible--there are binary incompatibilities from differing libraries, incompatible binary rpm packages, and rpm versions, and even different compilers! We chose to stay with glibc2.1 and rpm3 one generation of software longer than RH, because we felt the compiler was not yet stable enough for general use, and the package of compiler, lib, and rpm version were not easily separable. Civileme
Re: [newbie] Upgrading RedHat?
On Friday 30 March 2001 08:43, you wrote: > Hi. > Is it possible to upgrade from RedHat 7.0 to Mandrake 7.2 without loosing > too much information? > What kind of info do I risk to loose? > We've got qmail with vmail and courier on that machine right now and we > don't look forward to loosing all the mail and accounts or the > configurations. > > I'd be grateful for any help or comments onthis. > > /Patrik I think RedHat 7.0 and Mandrake 7.2 are essentially similar in terms of kernel, etc. Why would you even take the chance of upgrading from a distro to a distro, besides I am sure that it cannot be done. Remember the old adage, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. -- Jay ~May the enemies of Ireland never meet a friend~ http://www.mrsnooky.com http://www.celtic.free
[newbie] Upgrading RedHat?
Hi. Is it possible to upgrade from RedHat 7.0 to Mandrake 7.2 without loosing too much information? What kind of info do I risk to loose? We've got qmail with vmail and courier on that machine right now and we don't look forward to loosing all the mail and accounts or the configurations. I'd be grateful for any help or comments onthis. /Patrik
Re: [newbie] upgrading RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0
On Mar 31, Ed Tharp wrote: > my understanding is that mandrake is redhat6.1 kernel and an added few files > and a GUI install My understanding was that the major difference between RHL and Mandrake Linux was that mandrake has all the packages built for the Pentium-class systems (i586). I've been running Red Hat since 4.0 and I was thinking of changing to Mandrake, but I think I'm going to wait until we get away from this 7.0-2 instability stuff. I figure that the versions of Red Hat and Mandrake that have kernel 2.4 and the (by then stabilized) new XFree86 4.0 will come out about the same times. I'll have to make a decision by then... -Michael -- No, my friend, the way to have good and safe government, is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent to. It is by dividing and subdividing these republics from the national one down through all its subordinations, until it ends in the administration of every man's farm by himself; by placing under every one what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best. -- Thomas Jefferson, to Joseph Cabell, 1816
Re: [newbie] upgrading RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0
my understanding is that mandrake is redhat6.1 kernel and an added few files and a GUI install - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] upgrading RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0 > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, larry wrote: > > > i just installed mandrake. i didn't see the word "redhat" anywhere in > > the installation. unless you know a hell of lot more than i do, i'd just do > > a new mandrake install. > > no, I asked if it is possible to upgrade RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0 > (the homepage states that Mandrake is RedHat-compatible, so I assume that > I can upgrade my RedHat 6.1 installation to Mandrake 7.0 without > jeopardizing my whole configuration and setup... > > and I don't want to 'just' install mandrake over my existing system, > because it'll take me additional two weeks to recreate my whole > enviorment... > > > larry > > bye > Frank > >
Re: [newbie] upgrading RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, steve harris wrote: Hi Steve and others... > RedHat 6.2 will be out April 10. thanks, thats not the problem, the iso image for rh62 is allready on my machine ;) > MacMillan Mandrake 7 died on my system, and I was trying to upgrade > MacMillan Mandrake 6.0 to 7.0 well thats at least a statement which tells me that upgrading with Mandrake does probably not work... > My comment would be "don't upgrade just to upgrade. Thats certainly true in most cases and the reason why I'm asking this question in this forum. I just would like to see the speedups everybody is speaking about. > If you upgrade any system be prepared to tweak a few things. > (no real good answer for you I know, just experience) Well, I wouldn't expect that a action like that runs 'out of the box', I just want to know if somebody achieved it without spoiling the system. There's a slight difference between tweaking a few things and reinstalling the whole system+configuration+me nerves... ;) (I've done such stupid things ages ago, and I remember the nights repairing such systems... ;) > fwiw > > steve thanks for your answers and hints Frank > > Original Message Follows > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] upgrading RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0 > Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:36:19 +0200 (MEST) > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, larry wrote: > > > i just installed mandrake. i didn't see the word "redhat" anywhere > in > > the installation. unless you know a hell of lot more than i do, i'd just > do > > a new mandrake install. > > no, I asked if it is possible to upgrade RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0 > (the homepage states that Mandrake is RedHat-compatible, so I assume that > I can upgrade my RedHat 6.1 installation to Mandrake 7.0 without > jeopardizing my whole configuration and setup... > > and I don't want to 'just' install mandrake over my existing system, > because it'll take me additional two weeks to recreate my whole > enviorment... > > > larry > > bye > Frank
Re: [newbie] upgrading RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0
frank, RedHat 6.2 will be out April 10. MacMillan Mandrake 7 died on my system, and I was trying to upgrade MacMillan Mandrake 6.0 to 7.0 You should only upgrade if you need added hardware support or something else new you NEED. There are current security updates for your RH 6.1 My comment would be "don't upgrade just to upgrade. If you upgrade any system be prepared to tweak a few things. (no real good answer for you I know, just experience) fwiw steve Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] upgrading RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:36:19 +0200 (MEST) On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, larry wrote: > i just installed mandrake. i didn't see the word "redhat" anywhere in > the installation. unless you know a hell of lot more than i do, i'd just do > a new mandrake install. no, I asked if it is possible to upgrade RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0 (the homepage states that Mandrake is RedHat-compatible, so I assume that I can upgrade my RedHat 6.1 installation to Mandrake 7.0 without jeopardizing my whole configuration and setup... and I don't want to 'just' install mandrake over my existing system, because it'll take me additional two weeks to recreate my whole enviorment... > larry bye Frank __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] upgrading RedHat 6.1 to Mandrake 7.0
Hello Folks, if this is covered in a FAQ, just point me the way :) Is it possible to upgrade a running RedHat 6.1 installation to Mandrake 7.0. Will it keep my system-configuration, or will it break anything? Is there an option for this in the install-util on the CD? I want to have a clear picture on this before trying anything fancy :) thanks in advance Frank - | Frank Berger[EMAIL PROTECTED]_ ___| | Schleestr. 21IRC: Foppel/ __// /_ | | 72766 Reutlingen / _/ // | | Tel: 07121-492051 /_/ //| -- http://www.tue.bawue.de/menschen/frank/ --
