RE: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread Franki
can you ping an IP address???

or no ip or domain??

try:

ping 139.130.4.5

If that works, but pinging domains does not.. then you need to add a
nameserver to
/etc/resolv.conf

your ISP should be able to tell you their name server IP...

rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gil Katz
Sent: Thursday, 19 December 2002 7:33 PM
To: 'Brian Parish'; Linux NewBie (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [newbie] Using Internet


I'm using modem and the modem connects to the internet and from then nothing
And I not using Firewall.

 -Original Message-
From:   Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    Re: [newbie] Using Internet

On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
> Hi
> I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
> mean
> I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
> Does anyone got an idea?
> Gil
>
You'll need to give some details on what you have set up.  Is this a
dial-up connection, cable, DSL?  Firewalled?  What seems to work and
what doesn't?  Does it seem to establish a connection?  What's the
output of: ifconfig?

Lots of help available here, but not without something to go on.

cheers
Brian






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Re: [newbie] Using internet

2002-12-19 Thread Gil Katz
OK i played more with Mandrake center and all is fine.
Thanks everyone
Gil
On ה', 2002-12-19 at 17:58, Milos Prudek wrote:
> 
> 
> Gil Katz wrote:
> > OK
> > i play a little bit with mandrake center and change the default to the
> > network card and i can surf via the Ethernet, but when i try to connect
> > via the modem i get error message
> > "Timeout expired while waiting for the PPP interface to come up!"
> 
> A possible reason:
> 
> ppp will not connect if you have default gateway already set when ppp is 
> asked to connect.
> 
> And you probably have default gateway already set.
> 
> You must delete your default route to eth0 before you attempt to connect 
> via modem (i.e. via ppp).
> 
> -- 
> Milos Prudek
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] Using internet

2002-12-19 Thread Milos Prudek


Gil Katz wrote:

OK
i play a little bit with mandrake center and change the default to the
network card and i can surf via the Ethernet, but when i try to connect
via the modem i get error message
"Timeout expired while waiting for the PPP interface to come up!"


A possible reason:

ppp will not connect if you have default gateway already set when ppp is 
asked to connect.

And you probably have default gateway already set.

You must delete your default route to eth0 before you attempt to connect 
via modem (i.e. via ppp).

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[newbie] Using internet

2002-12-19 Thread Gil Katz
OK
i play a little bit with mandrake center and change the default to the
network card and i can surf via the Ethernet, but when i try to connect
via the modem i get error message
"Timeout expired while waiting for the PPP interface to come up!"
any idea
Thanks gil





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Re: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread Anthony Abby
Gil Katz said:
> Hi
> I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
> mean
> I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
> Does anyone got an idea?
> Gil

Gil, really need a bit more detail to figure out what your problem might
be... can you ping your own interface... localhost... default gateway?




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RE: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN
When I installed Mdk9, I had dialup, and a eth0 as well.
Using the Mandrake wizard, always seemed to make gatewaydev in /etc/sysconfig/network 
file point to eth0
change that line to ppp0, then as root, service network restart. Hope this helps.

Brian D. Klar - CVE
Multimax 
Network Engineer
WPAFB



-Original Message-
From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Using Internet


On Thursday 19 Dec 2002 1:37 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 22:52, Gil Katz wrote:
> > Here is the output of lfconfig
> > eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:04:EE:03:88
> >   inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
> >   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:559 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:1472 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1028
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> >   RX bytes:123381 (120.4 Kb)  TX bytes:126049 (123.0 Kb)
> >   Interrupt:5 Base address:0xb400
> >
> > loLink encap:Local Loopback
> >   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
> >   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> >   RX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)  TX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)
> >
> > ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
> >   inet addr:204.141.45.8  P-t-P:204.141.45.121 
> > Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500 
> > Metric:1 RX packets:4 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
> >   RX bytes:82 (82.0 b)  TX bytes:131 (131.0 b)
> > Gil
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Using Internet
> >
> > On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing
> > > I mean
> > > I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
> > > Does anyone got an idea?
> > > Gil
>
> OK, well you are obviously getting a connection.  Check that shorewall
> hasn't got into the act by doing the following:
>
> run MCC (Mandrake Control Center
> select Security
> select Firewall
>
> If you get a message saying that the shorewall package needs to be
> installed, then that's not the problem (don't install it).  Otherwise,
> check that the access allowed is ALL (no firewall).
>
> HTH
> Brian

Sorry for cutting into this thread, but I see there is a local Ethernet 
defined. It is possible the Ethernet is set as default gateway so preventing 
Internet traffic from using dialup.
You can test this by typing in a root terminal
'route'  You will then get a display of known routes. If one of them shows the 
default route as being via eth0 then that is the problem. To fix it for the 
current session

route del default
route add default ppp0

HTH

derek




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Re: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread magnet
On Thursday 19 Dec 2002 2:11 pm, Milos Prudek wrote:
> Gil Katz wrote:
> > If I'm using the Ethernet card I can ping the gateway but when I use the
> > modem I cannot.
>
> Are you using IP address of the gateway, or hostname?
>
> If IP address ping does not work: you may have incorrect route. Check
> with the "route" command.
>
> If hostname ping does not work, but IP address ping works: your route is
> OK, but you have DNS problems. Check /etc/resolv.conf.

Open a shell, su yourself as root and then type [without quotes]

`vi /etc/sysconfig/network`

there is a line in there: GATEWAY=eth0

change it to: GATEWAY=ppp0

This tells it to use your modem and not the ethernet port as your internet 
input device.

Also worth changing the following lines:

   FORWARD_IPV4=true
   NETWORKING=yes

Happy surfing :))

regards
magnet



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Re: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread Milos Prudek


Gil Katz wrote:

If I'm using the Ethernet card I can ping the gateway but when I use the
modem I cannot.


Are you using IP address of the gateway, or hostname?

If IP address ping does not work: you may have incorrect route. Check 
with the "route" command.

If hostname ping does not work, but IP address ping works: your route is 
OK, but you have DNS problems. Check /etc/resolv.conf.

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Re: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 19 Dec 2002 1:37 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 22:52, Gil Katz wrote:
> > Here is the output of lfconfig
> > eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:04:EE:03:88
> >   inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
> >   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:559 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:1472 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1028
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> >   RX bytes:123381 (120.4 Kb)  TX bytes:126049 (123.0 Kb)
> >   Interrupt:5 Base address:0xb400
> >
> > loLink encap:Local Loopback
> >   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
> >   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> >   RX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)  TX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)
> >
> > ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
> >   inet addr:204.141.45.8  P-t-P:204.141.45.121 
> > Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500 
> > Metric:1 RX packets:4 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
> >   RX bytes:82 (82.0 b)  TX bytes:131 (131.0 b)
> > Gil
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Using Internet
> >
> > On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing
> > > I mean
> > > I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
> > > Does anyone got an idea?
> > > Gil
>
> OK, well you are obviously getting a connection.  Check that shorewall
> hasn't got into the act by doing the following:
>
> run MCC (Mandrake Control Center
> select Security
> select Firewall
>
> If you get a message saying that the shorewall package needs to be
> installed, then that's not the problem (don't install it).  Otherwise,
> check that the access allowed is ALL (no firewall).
>
> HTH
> Brian

Sorry for cutting into this thread, but I see there is a local Ethernet 
defined. It is possible the Ethernet is set as default gateway so preventing 
Internet traffic from using dialup.
You can test this by typing in a root terminal
'route'  You will then get a display of known routes. If one of them shows the 
default route as being via eth0 then that is the problem. To fix it for the 
current session

route del default
route add default ppp0

HTH

derek




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RE: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread Brian Parish
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 22:52, Gil Katz wrote:
> Here is the output of lfconfig
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:04:EE:03:88
>   inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:559 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:1472 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1028
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>   RX bytes:123381 (120.4 Kb)  TX bytes:126049 (123.0 Kb)
>   Interrupt:5 Base address:0xb400
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   RX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>   RX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)  TX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)
> 
> ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
>   inet addr:204.141.45.8  P-t-P:204.141.45.121  Mask:255.255.255.255
>   UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:4 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
>   RX bytes:82 (82.0 b)  TX bytes:131 (131.0 b)
> Gil
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Using Internet
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
> > Hi
> > I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
> > mean
> > I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
> > Does anyone got an idea?
> > Gil
> >
OK, well you are obviously getting a connection.  Check that shorewall
hasn't got into the act by doing the following:

run MCC (Mandrake Control Center
select Security
select Firewall

If you get a message saying that the shorewall package needs to be
installed, then that's not the problem (don't install it).  Otherwise,
check that the access allowed is ALL (no firewall).

HTH
Brian






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RE: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread Gil Katz
Here is the output of lfconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:04:EE:03:88
  inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:559 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1472 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1028
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:123381 (120.4 Kb)  TX bytes:126049 (123.0 Kb)
  Interrupt:5 Base address:0xb400

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)  TX bytes:109314 (106.7 Kb)

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
  inet addr:204.141.45.8  P-t-P:204.141.45.121  Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:4 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
  RX bytes:82 (82.0 b)  TX bytes:131 (131.0 b)
Gil

-Original Message-
From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Using Internet


On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
> Hi
> I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
> mean
> I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
> Does anyone got an idea?
> Gil
>
You'll need to give some details on what you have set up.  Is this a
dial-up connection, cable, DSL?  Firewalled?  What seems to work and
what doesn't?  Does it seem to establish a connection?  What's the
output of: ifconfig?

Lots of help available here, but not without something to go on.

cheers
Brian




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RE: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread Gil Katz
I'm using modem and the modem connects to the internet and from then nothing
And I not using Firewall.

 -Original Message-
From:   Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] Using Internet

On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:53, Gil Katz wrote:
> Hi
> I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
> mean
> I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
> Does anyone got an idea?
> Gil
> 
You'll need to give some details on what you have set up.  Is this a
dial-up connection, cable, DSL?  Firewalled?  What seems to work and
what doesn't?  Does it seem to establish a connection?  What's the
output of: ifconfig?

Lots of help available here, but not without something to go on.

cheers
Brian




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Re: [newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread Milos Prudek


Gil Katz wrote:

Hi
I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
mean
I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.


Can you ping your gateway?

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[newbie] Using Internet

2002-12-19 Thread Gil Katz
Hi
I got mandrake 9.0 and when I connect to the internet I can do nothing I
mean
I cant surf I can't send and receive mail I cant even ping.
Does anyone got an idea?
Gil



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