Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!

2000-12-10 Thread mdw1982

*grin*

even better!

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On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Romanator spake passionately saying!

> How about a crazed penguin with a balpine hammer?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > h...I prefer a balpine hammer for such a thing.
> >
> > --
> > Mark
> > ###
> > ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature
> > ## Registered Linux User # 182496
> > ##  
> > #
> >
> > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000 Romanator spake passionately saying!
> >
> > > I pulsed laser will work.
> > >
> > > Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday 02 December 2000 02:59 am, Goldenpi wrote:
> > > > > I have an i810e and I can tell you that if its at all like the i810
> > > > > you have no problem. The 810 chipset really is slow. There so called
> > > > > acceleretion on my windows box is actually slower than software
> > > > > rendering!
> > > >
> > > > If you do a search on the cooker archive, there's a solution for
> > > > i810 problems.  IIRC, the developers suggest using a laser to cut the
> > > > #$%!~ chip out of the motherboard ;>>
> > > > --
> > > > Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On the plus side the 810 chipset has a built in video out. But you
> > > > > cant use it without drivers and linus hasn't got them.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: Ronald J. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: Mandrake Newbie Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:15 PM
> > > > > Subject: [newbie] V7.2 questions!
> > > > >
> > > > > > A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his
> > > > > > Pentium
> > > > >
> > > > > machine
> > > > >
> > > > > > with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine).
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyways, he
> > > > >
> > > > > > has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not show up
> > > > > > under hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I
> > > > > > thought
> > > > >
> > > > > hardware
> > > > >
> > > > > > acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets under 7.2.
> > > > >
> > > > > (including the
> > > > >
> > > > > > i810). However, any games we play are dead slow... ;-(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas? Thanks!
> > >
> > >
>





Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!

2000-12-10 Thread mdw1982

h...I prefer a balpine hammer for such a thing.

-- 
Mark
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## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature
## Registered Linux User # 182496
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On Sat, 2 Dec 2000 Romanator spake passionately saying!

> I pulsed laser will work.
>
> Tom Brinkman wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday 02 December 2000 02:59 am, Goldenpi wrote:
> > > I have an i810e and I can tell you that if its at all like the i810
> > > you have no problem. The 810 chipset really is slow. There so called
> > > acceleretion on my windows box is actually slower than software
> > > rendering!
> >
> > If you do a search on the cooker archive, there's a solution for
> > i810 problems.  IIRC, the developers suggest using a laser to cut the
> > #$%!~ chip out of the motherboard ;>>
> > --
> > Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
> >
> > >
> > > On the plus side the 810 chipset has a built in video out. But you
> > > cant use it without drivers and linus hasn't got them.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Ronald J. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Mandrake Newbie Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:15 PM
> > > Subject: [newbie] V7.2 questions!
> > >
> > > > A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his
> > > > Pentium
> > >
> > > machine
> > >
> > > > with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine).
> > >
> > > Anyways, he
> > >
> > > > has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not show up
> > > > under hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I
> > > > thought
> > >
> > > hardware
> > >
> > > > acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets under 7.2.
> > >
> > > (including the
> > >
> > > > i810). However, any games we play are dead slow... ;-(
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas? Thanks!
>
>





Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!

2000-12-04 Thread civileme

On Friday 01 December 2000 22:03, you wrote:
> "Ronald J. Hall" wrote:
> > A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his Pentium
> > machine with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz
> > machine). Anyways, he has an external modem and no matter what we do, it
> > does not show up under hardware configuration, even though its working
> > fine. Also, I thought hardware acceleration was automatic with certain
> > card/chipsets under 7.2. (including the i810). However, any games we play
> > are dead slow... ;-(
> >
> > Any ideas? Thanks!
> >
> > --
> >
> >/\
> >   
> > Dark>
> Doesn't the i810 chipset have a video out port? or was that the 810e?
> Does it work under linux?

If you installed in expert mode and selected ANY resolution other than 16-bit 
color depth, not only was acceleration broken by default, BUT ALSO the 
statement

load."glx"

is not included in the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 

As a result, you have no accelerartion.

Acceleration works only in 16-bit color.

Also 667MHz sounds like a Celeron clock rate.  Remember that Intel cripples 
all Celerons to run at a 66MHz front side bus rate, unless you are into 
overclocking.

Anyway, expert mode, XFree-4.01 and 16-bit color depth is best chance for the 
i810.  I have a Pentium III 733 running off the i810e with full acceleration 
here and it still drags--the i810Chipset must have other virtues than speed.

Civileme




Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!

2000-12-02 Thread Romanator

I pulsed laser will work.

Tom Brinkman wrote:
> 
> On Saturday 02 December 2000 02:59 am, Goldenpi wrote:
> > I have an i810e and I can tell you that if its at all like the i810
> > you have no problem. The 810 chipset really is slow. There so called
> > acceleretion on my windows box is actually slower than software
> > rendering!
> 
> If you do a search on the cooker archive, there's a solution for
> i810 problems.  IIRC, the developers suggest using a laser to cut the
> #$%!~ chip out of the motherboard ;>>
> --
> Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
> 
> >
> > On the plus side the 810 chipset has a built in video out. But you
> > cant use it without drivers and linus hasn't got them.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Ronald J. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Mandrake Newbie Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:15 PM
> > Subject: [newbie] V7.2 questions!
> >
> > > A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his
> > > Pentium
> >
> > machine
> >
> > > with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine).
> >
> > Anyways, he
> >
> > > has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not show up
> > > under hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I
> > > thought
> >
> > hardware
> >
> > > acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets under 7.2.
> >
> > (including the
> >
> > > i810). However, any games we play are dead slow... ;-(
> > >
> > > Any ideas? Thanks!

-- 
Roman 
Registered Linux User #179293




Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!

2000-12-02 Thread onepatrick

Robin Regennitter wrote:
> 
> On Saturday 02 December 2000 12:59 am, you wrote:
> 
> I have an i810 machine and it works just fine for me with my Linux box.
> XFree86 4.0.1 does support i810 with acceleration as it produced the 24bit
> color versus 8bit on XFree 3.3.6.  I was surprised that the 3D games were
> playing nice and fast. however, after playing it few times, the games became
> super slow.  I stop playing the games on Linux.  I'm sure that the next
> version of XFree86 bug for i810 will be fix.  There is an upgrade i810 driver
> for windows at the intel site.
> 
> Rob
> 
> > I have an i810e and I can tell you that if its at all like the i810 you
> > have no problem. The 810 chipset really is slow. There so called
> > acceleretion on my windows box is actually slower than software rendering!
> >
> > On the plus side the 810 chipset has a built in video out. But you cant use
> > it without drivers and linus hasn't got them.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Ronald J. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Mandrake Newbie Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:15 PM
> > Subject: [newbie] V7.2 questions!
> >
> > > A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his Pentium
> >
> > machine
> >
> > > with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine).
> >
> > Anyways, he
> >
> > > has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not show up under
> > > hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I thought
> >
> > hardware
> >
> > > acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets under 7.2.
> >
> > (including the
> >
> > > i810). However, any games we play are dead slow... ;-(
> > >
> > > Any ideas? Thanks!
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >/\
> >
> > Dark> >
> > >\/




Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!

2000-12-02 Thread Robin Regennitter

On Saturday 02 December 2000 12:59 am, you wrote:

I have an i810 machine and it works just fine for me with my Linux box.  
XFree86 4.0.1 does support i810 with acceleration as it produced the 24bit 
color versus 8bit on XFree 3.3.6.  I was surprised that the 3D games were 
playing nice and fast. however, after playing it few times, the games became 
super slow.  I stop playing the games on Linux.  I'm sure that the next 
version of XFree86 bug for i810 will be fix.  There is an upgrade i810 driver 
for windows at the intel site.

Rob

> I have an i810e and I can tell you that if its at all like the i810 you
> have no problem. The 810 chipset really is slow. There so called
> acceleretion on my windows box is actually slower than software rendering!
>
> On the plus side the 810 chipset has a built in video out. But you cant use
> it without drivers and linus hasn't got them.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Ronald J. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Mandrake Newbie Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:15 PM
> Subject: [newbie] V7.2 questions!
>
> > A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his Pentium
>
> machine
>
> > with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine).
>
> Anyways, he
>
> > has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not show up under
> > hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I thought
>
> hardware
>
> > acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets under 7.2.
>
> (including the
>
> > i810). However, any games we play are dead slow... ;-(
> >
> > Any ideas? Thanks!
> >
> > --
> >
> >/\
>
> Dark>
> >\/




Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!

2000-12-02 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Saturday 02 December 2000 02:59 am, Goldenpi wrote:
> I have an i810e and I can tell you that if its at all like the i810
> you have no problem. The 810 chipset really is slow. There so called
> acceleretion on my windows box is actually slower than software
> rendering!

If you do a search on the cooker archive, there's a solution for 
i810 problems.  IIRC, the developers suggest using a laser to cut the 
#$%!~ chip out of the motherboard ;>>
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

>
> On the plus side the 810 chipset has a built in video out. But you
> cant use it without drivers and linus hasn't got them.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Ronald J. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Mandrake Newbie Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:15 PM
> Subject: [newbie] V7.2 questions!
>
> > A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his
> > Pentium
>
> machine
>
> > with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine).
>
> Anyways, he
>
> > has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not show up
> > under hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I
> > thought
>
> hardware
>
> > acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets under 7.2.
>
> (including the
>
> > i810). However, any games we play are dead slow... ;-(
> >
> > Any ideas? Thanks!





Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!

2000-12-01 Thread eryl

On Friday 01 December 2000 11:15, you wrote:
> A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his Pentium
> machine with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine).
> Anyways, he has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not
> show up under hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I
> thought hardware acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets
> under 7.2. (including the i810). However, any games we play are dead
> slow... ;-(
>
> Any ideas? Thanks!

That's normal, external modems never show.  I think that's because externals 
are attached to the serial port, and there's no detection of serial devices 
via the ports, at least not until they are initialized.  Its NOT something to 
lose sleep over.

Can't help with the vid acceleration--don't play games so haven't had the 
need to mess with it.




Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!

2000-12-01 Thread goldenpi

"Ronald J. Hall" wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his Pentium machine
> with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine). Anyways, he
> has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not show up under
> hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I thought hardware
> acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets under 7.2. (including the
> i810). However, any games we play are dead slow... ;-(
> 
> Any ideas? Thanks!
> 
> --
> 
>/\
>Dark>\/

Doesn't the i810 chipset have a video out port? or was that the 810e?
Does it work under linux?

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geek.
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[newbie] V7.2 questions!

2000-12-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall

A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his Pentium machine
with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine). Anyways, he
has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not show up under
hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I thought hardware
acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets under 7.2. (including the
i810). However, any games we play are dead slow... ;-(

Any ideas? Thanks!

-- 
 
   /\
   Dark>