Re: [newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron

2003-08-14 Thread Wayne Rolfe
It wont work AMD CPU´s use socket 462 
Intel CPU´s use Socket 370 there is also a voltage difference
you will just F&*( up your cpu and MB

Cheers
Pigdog


On Friday 08 Aug 2003 1:11 pm, Marc wrote:
>I am putting a couple of machines togather from a pile of left over
> parts. This is probably common knoweldge but it is from a time before I did
> much with computer hardware.
>  Will a Celeron socket 370 processor generally work on a moutherboard
> where a socket 370 Duron processor of similar speed was removed?
>Sorry to get off topic but I have been Googleing around for quite a
> while and have been unable to find a answer. I figured some of you folks
> would know.
>
> Thanks
> Marc
> KM5KW


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Re: [newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron

2003-08-14 Thread stormjumper
hate to disappoint you.

there's no way a Duron will work on a motherboard where a Celeron was
removed from.
;-)
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Subject: [newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron


>I am putting a couple of machines togather from a pile of left over
parts.
> This is probably common knoweldge but it is from a time before I did much
with
> computer hardware.
>  Will a Celeron socket 370 processor generally work on a moutherboard
> where a socket 370 Duron processor of similar speed was removed?
>Sorry to get off topic but I have been Googleing around for quite a
while
> and have been unable to find a answer. I figured some of you folks would
> know.
>
> Thanks
> Marc
> KM5KW
>
>






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RE: [newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron

2003-08-14 Thread Frankie
Not a chance.. AMD and Intel stopped being pin compatable back in the
Socket 7 days.

Celeron is basically a Pentium with less cache..

Duron is a similarly reduced athlon..

They will not be pin compatable, and you will probably do damage to one or
both trying it.

rgds

Franki

>-Original Message-
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marc
>Sent: Friday, 8 August 2003 8:12 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron
>
>
>   I am putting a couple of machines togather from a pile of left
>over parts.
>This is probably common knoweldge but it is from a time before I
>did much with
>computer hardware.
> Will a Celeron socket 370 processor generally work on a moutherboard
>where a socket 370 Duron processor of similar speed was removed?
>   Sorry to get off topic but I have been Googleing around for
>quite a while
>and have been unable to find a answer. I figured some of you folks would
>know.
>
>Thanks
>Marc
>KM5KW
>
>


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RE: [newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron

2003-08-11 Thread Frankie
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Urwin
>
>If you can get a Celeron they were always very capable of being
>over-clocked. Checkout http://www.tomshardware.com
>
>--
>Richard Urwin
>

Yes, thats certainly true.. I am writing this from a Celeron 300A (300mhz)
with 384MB ram that has been running at 464 mhz 24/7 for many years now..
never crashes and never runs hot. (and it benchmarks faster then a PIII 450
too thanks to the front side bus and cache on the CPU.)

Having said that, with a duron and a celeron of the same clock speed, the
duron is a ton faster..
and some of the durons were very very handy for overclocking as well. (I
have heard of stable cases of a 400mhz increase.)


rgds

Franki


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Re: [newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron

2003-08-10 Thread Marc
On Friday 08 August 2003 05:04 pm, Wayne Rolfe wrote:
> It wont work AMD CPU´s use socket 462
> Intel CPU´s use Socket 370 there is also a voltage difference
> you will just F&*( up your cpu and MB
>
> Cheers
> Pigdog
>
> On Friday 08 Aug 2003 1:11 pm, Marc wrote:
> >I am putting a couple of machines togather from a pile of left over
> > parts. This is probably common knoweldge but it is from a time before I
> > did much with computer hardware.
> >  Will a Celeron socket 370 processor generally work on a moutherboard
> > where a socket 370 Duron processor of similar speed was removed?
> >Sorry to get off topic but I have been Googleing around for quite a
> > while and have been unable to find a answer. I figured some of you folks
> > would know.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Marc
> > KM5KW

Thanks to all that offered advice on this.  I solved all my problems and 
for a few bucks ebayd a MOBO for my homeless CPU and a CPU  for my brainless 
MOBO along with a few sticks of memory. I guess I will just end up with 1 
extra machine built from my piles of used parts. 
  But I should be able to find homes for them. This is starting to get a bit 
interisting. I live near a small town , population around 500 with other 
small towns around it, the kind of place where everybody knows what all is 
going on around town and in the surrounding area and I seem to be 1 of the 
only people around that can build or repair a computer for 20 miles around. 
It's kind of a part time job or hobby at this point. People around town are 
are starting to talk about their ML boxes and people are starting to ask me 
about ML. I build at least 1 computer a month sometimes a lot more that is a 
linux machine for someone around here. Thats not a lot until you figure in 
the small total population. Another year or 2 and Norfork Arkansas and the 
surrounding area may have the highest percentage of Mandrake linux users in 
the US. The effect seems to be snowballing and I am enjoying seeing Microsoft 
getting their butts kicked on a local level. LOL

Thanks All
Marc
KM5KW

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Re: [newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron

2003-08-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 22:11, Marc wrote:
>I am putting a couple of machines togather from a pile of left over parts.
> This is probably common knoweldge but it is from a time before I did much with 
> computer hardware.
>  Will a Celeron socket 370 processor generally work on a moutherboard 
> where a socket 370 Duron processor of similar speed was removed?
>Sorry to get off topic but I have been Googleing around for quite a while 
> and have been unable to find a answer. I figured some of you folks would 
> know.
> 
> Thanks
> Marc
> KM5KW

You might want to google on the motherboard ID instead...

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[newbie] Way OT Celeron vs Duron

2003-08-08 Thread Marc
   I am putting a couple of machines togather from a pile of left over parts.
This is probably common knoweldge but it is from a time before I did much with 
computer hardware.
 Will a Celeron socket 370 processor generally work on a moutherboard 
where a socket 370 Duron processor of similar speed was removed?
   Sorry to get off topic but I have been Googleing around for quite a while 
and have been unable to find a answer. I figured some of you folks would 
know.

Thanks
Marc
KM5KW

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