Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-21 Thread BJ Tracy
SNIP

Thanks to all of you for answering my question on web software.  I have
a lot of research to do now.

All the best,
BJ


On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 20:51, John Wilson wrote:
> On February 21, 2005 04:54 am, John Layt wrote:
> 
> >
> > You might like to check out the following dedicated Realty web software:
> >   http://www.open-realty.org/ (demo at
> > http://open-realty.org/demo/index.php) http://freerealty.rwcinc.net/
> >   http://real-estate-management-software.org/
> >
> > Xoops CMS:
> > http://www.obscorp.com/obsportal/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?cid=31&;
> >lid=10 (Demo at
> > http://www.folsomliving.com/modules/realestate/singlelink.php?cid=23&lid=40
> >060122)
> >
> > Mambo CMS (mambo is free, these modules cost):
> >   http://www.mosets.com/hot_property/
> >  
> > http://mambo.theyard.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=68&Itemid=30
> >
> > For general web galleries, try this search at FreshMeat:
> >   http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=php+gallery§ion=projects&Go.x=9&Go.y=4
> >
> > There's a heap more out there, I'm sure, just google...
> >
> > John.
> 
> You might also want to look at any number of PHP-Nike powered sites just 
> because most of the modules you'll need are free.
> 
> ttfn
> 
> John



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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-21 Thread John Wilson
On February 21, 2005 04:54 am, John Layt wrote:

>
> You might like to check out the following dedicated Realty web software:
>   http://www.open-realty.org/ (demo at
> http://open-realty.org/demo/index.php) http://freerealty.rwcinc.net/
>   http://real-estate-management-software.org/
>
> Xoops CMS:
> http://www.obscorp.com/obsportal/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?cid=31&;
>lid=10 (Demo at
> http://www.folsomliving.com/modules/realestate/singlelink.php?cid=23&lid=40
>060122)
>
> Mambo CMS (mambo is free, these modules cost):
>   http://www.mosets.com/hot_property/
>  
> http://mambo.theyard.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=68&Itemid=30
>
> For general web galleries, try this search at FreshMeat:
>   http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=php+gallery§ion=projects&Go.x=9&Go.y=4
>
> There's a heap more out there, I'm sure, just google...
>
> John.

You might also want to look at any number of PHP-Nike powered sites just 
because most of the modules you'll need are free.

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-21 Thread * *
Hi,

ever saw http://www.nvu.com/ ?
Nice - I think with Gecko Based Backendengine!


On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:54:41 +1100, John Layt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:52, BJ Tracy wrote:
> 
> > SNIP
> >
> > Thanks to all of you.  What I'm trying to come up with is a multi page
> > web site with pics (real estate) and a way people can contact me.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > bj
> 
> You might like to check out the following dedicated Realty web software:
>   http://www.open-realty.org/ (demo at http://open-realty.org/demo/index.php)
>   http://freerealty.rwcinc.net/
>   http://real-estate-management-software.org/
> 
> Xoops CMS:
> http://www.obscorp.com/obsportal/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?cid=31&lid=10
> (Demo at
> http://www.folsomliving.com/modules/realestate/singlelink.php?cid=23&lid=40060122)
> 
> Mambo CMS (mambo is free, these modules cost):
>   http://www.mosets.com/hot_property/
>   http://mambo.theyard.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=68&Itemid=30
> 
> For general web galleries, try this search at FreshMeat:
>   http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=php+gallery§ion=projects&Go.x=9&Go.y=4
> 
> There's a heap more out there, I'm sure, just google...
> 
> John.
> 
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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-21 Thread John Layt
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:52, BJ Tracy wrote:

> SNIP
>
> Thanks to all of you.  What I'm trying to come up with is a multi page
> web site with pics (real estate) and a way people can contact me.
>
> Thanks again,
> bj

You might like to check out the following dedicated Realty web software:
  http://www.open-realty.org/ (demo at http://open-realty.org/demo/index.php)
  http://freerealty.rwcinc.net/
  http://real-estate-management-software.org/

Xoops CMS:
http://www.obscorp.com/obsportal/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?cid=31&lid=10
(Demo at 
http://www.folsomliving.com/modules/realestate/singlelink.php?cid=23&lid=40060122)

Mambo CMS (mambo is free, these modules cost):
  http://www.mosets.com/hot_property/
  http://mambo.theyard.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=68&Itemid=30

For general web galleries, try this search at FreshMeat:
  http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=php+gallery§ion=projects&Go.x=9&Go.y=4

There's a heap more out there, I'm sure, just google...

John.

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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-17 Thread SnapafunFrank
Graham Watkins wrote:
BJ Tracy wrote:
Hello All,
Well my plans are moving ahead and I need to know if there is a user
friendly web page design software package for linux that those of you
have used and like.  I'm using Mandrake 10.0.
TIA
B.J. Tracy

I like Arachnophilia although if you are a complete novice regarding 
html, Mozilla Composer may suit you better.
If you installed openoffice then do:
 Type " ooffice " ( without the quotes ) - select  and once 
OOo is up and running go. Enjoy

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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-17 Thread Graham Watkins
BJ Tracy wrote:
Hello All,
Well my plans are moving ahead and I need to know if there is a user
friendly web page design software package for linux that those of you
have used and like.  I'm using Mandrake 10.0.
TIA
B.J. Tracy

I like Arachnophilia although if you are a complete novice regarding 
html, Mozilla Composer may suit you better.
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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-17 Thread Philippe Landau
H. Crissman wrote:
Did you install OOo with MDK10... It has a reasonable WYSIWYG html
editor - no need to worry about syntax.

What's the name of it?
NVU, or it's predecessor OpenOffice composer.
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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-17 Thread H. Crissman
On Thursday 17 February 2005 01:46 am, SnapafunFrank wrote:

> Did you install OOo with MDK10... It has a reasonable WYSIWYG html
> editor - no need to worry about syntax.

What's the name of it?

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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-16 Thread SnapafunFrank
BJ Tracy wrote:
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 06:34, John Layt wrote:
 

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:31, David G Stevenson wrote:
   

Slighty OT:
Yes, your original poster simply wanted GUI editor. I just wanted to
suggest an alternative to PHP which people tend to forget in favour of
the current 'popular' choice. I do feel that while languages come and go
and others evolve, Perl just seems to carry on being a darn good work
horse especially when there is lots of data to crunch in the background.
Then again, I am just an old timer that grew up on Perl and Oracle :-)
 

All so true, as a programmer on the Big Iron, I know that a good old COBOL job 
can do in 1 minute what some of these new-fangled 4GL environments take 10 
minutes to achieve :-)  The 4GL takes 1 tenth of the time to write however.

Of course, the ASM guys in the next pod over would normally chime in about 
this point in any conversation to remind us that they can run it in about 10 
seconds...

John. 
   

SNIP
Thanks to all of you.  What I'm trying to come up with is a multi page
web site with pics (real estate) and a way people can contact me.
Thanks again,
bj
 

Did you install OOo with MDK10... It has a reasonable WYSIWYG html 
editor - no need to worry about syntax.

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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-16 Thread BJ Tracy
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 06:34, John Layt wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:31, David G Stevenson wrote:
> > Slighty OT:
> >
> > Yes, your original poster simply wanted GUI editor. I just wanted to
> > suggest an alternative to PHP which people tend to forget in favour of
> > the current 'popular' choice. I do feel that while languages come and go
> > and others evolve, Perl just seems to carry on being a darn good work
> > horse especially when there is lots of data to crunch in the background.
> >
> > Then again, I am just an old timer that grew up on Perl and Oracle :-)
> 
> All so true, as a programmer on the Big Iron, I know that a good old COBOL 
> job 
> can do in 1 minute what some of these new-fangled 4GL environments take 10 
> minutes to achieve :-)  The 4GL takes 1 tenth of the time to write however.
> 
> Of course, the ASM guys in the next pod over would normally chime in about 
> this point in any conversation to remind us that they can run it in about 10 
> seconds...
> 
> John. 
SNIP

Thanks to all of you.  What I'm trying to come up with is a multi page
web site with pics (real estate) and a way people can contact me.

Thanks again,
bj



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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-16 Thread John Layt
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:31, David G Stevenson wrote:
> Slighty OT:
>
> Yes, your original poster simply wanted GUI editor. I just wanted to
> suggest an alternative to PHP which people tend to forget in favour of
> the current 'popular' choice. I do feel that while languages come and go
> and others evolve, Perl just seems to carry on being a darn good work
> horse especially when there is lots of data to crunch in the background.
>
> Then again, I am just an old timer that grew up on Perl and Oracle :-)

All so true, as a programmer on the Big Iron, I know that a good old COBOL job 
can do in 1 minute what some of these new-fangled 4GL environments take 10 
minutes to achieve :-)  The 4GL takes 1 tenth of the time to write however.

Of course, the ASM guys in the next pod over would normally chime in about 
this point in any conversation to remind us that they can run it in about 10 
seconds...

John. 

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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-16 Thread David G Stevenson
John Layt wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:33, David G Stevenson wrote:
John Layt wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:33, BJ Tracy wrote:
Hello All,
PHP is a programming language that can generate HTML pages on the fly.
Don't forget Perl/CGI! Also very easy to learn with the abundance of
modules around. One of the biggest sites on the web is driven by Perl
(IMDb.com). :-)

True, but that's still more web-coding than I feel inclined to do :-)  My 
point which I guess I didn't make very clear was that these apps often 
require no coding on the users/webmasters part, just a browser-based 
point-and-click interface.

There are pre-packaged web-applications that use Perl/CGI or Python, but PHP 
is by far the most popular.

John.
Slighty OT:
Yes, your original poster simply wanted GUI editor. I just wanted to 
suggest an alternative to PHP which people tend to forget in favour of 
the current 'popular' choice. I do feel that while languages come and go 
and others evolve, Perl just seems to carry on being a darn good work 
horse especially when there is lots of data to crunch in the background.

Then again, I am just an old timer that grew up on Perl and Oracle :-)
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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-16 Thread John Layt
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:33, David G Stevenson wrote:
> John Layt wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:33, BJ Tracy wrote:
> >>Hello All,
> >
> > PHP is a programming language that can generate HTML pages on the fly.
>
> Don't forget Perl/CGI! Also very easy to learn with the abundance of
> modules around. One of the biggest sites on the web is driven by Perl
> (IMDb.com). :-)

True, but that's still more web-coding than I feel inclined to do :-)  My 
point which I guess I didn't make very clear was that these apps often 
require no coding on the users/webmasters part, just a browser-based 
point-and-click interface.

There are pre-packaged web-applications that use Perl/CGI or Python, but PHP 
is by far the most popular.

John.

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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-16 Thread David G Stevenson
John Layt wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:33, BJ Tracy wrote:
Hello All,

PHP is a programming language that can generate HTML pages on the fly.  
Don't forget Perl/CGI! Also very easy to learn with the abundance of 
modules around. One of the biggest sites on the web is driven by Perl 
(IMDb.com). :-)

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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-16 Thread John Layt
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:33, BJ Tracy wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Well my plans are moving ahead and I need to know if there is a user
> friendly web page design software package for linux that those of you
> have used and like.  I'm using Mandrake 10.0.
>
> TIA
>
>
> B.J. Tracy

Depends on what you are trying to achieve :-)  

If you just want a simple site, and you're happy with hacking some of the HTML 
yourself (and it's always a good place to start when build your first 
web-site, you learn a heap along the way), then NVu/Mozilla Composer, Quanta, 
or Screem are popular choices.  

Quanta is very powerful stuff, it's widely considered the best web development 
environment on Linux, and has recently gained a WYSIWYG composer, but is 
really a bit much for a newbie or a simple site.  For newbies, NVu is 
probably best bet IMHO, it's WYSIWYG, but also has good hand-coding tools.

After you get more than a few pages on your site, managing them all can be a 
bit of a pain, and adding fancy features gets time consuming, especially if 
you are not great shakes at graphics or coding.  A step up from individually 
maintained pages are PHP applications.  

PHP is a programming language that can generate HTML pages on the fly.  Many 
PHP based web-applications also use a MySQL database backend for storing 
data.  These apps can be anything from a simple blog, to a photo gallery, to 
a Wiki, to a forum, to a full-blown Content Management System combining all 
these, with many special areas in-between like genealogy sites, project 
management and auction sites.  The CMS I use, for example, has easy to use 
modules for add-ons like themes, stock-tickers, weather reports, image 
galleries, forums, chatboxes, member registration, comments, e-store, etc.

Setting up a PHP application can be as simple as copying a few files to the 
web server and then using your browser to login and tweak the settings.  Most 
web hosts will have some applicatons pre-installed, many through a sevice 
called Fantastico.  The hosting is pretty cheap too, I pay US$6 a month for 
PHP/mySQL hosting with 1Gb storage and 10Gb bandwidth.

Popular, easy-to-use, free CMS's I'd recommend are Mambo and Drupal, which are 
able to serve as anything from a simple blog to a full blown community or 
web-shop.  

Of course, this could be way more than you're wanting, but if you're planning 
anything more than just a simple 'Hello World' page it may be worth looking 
into.

Cheers!

John.

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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-15 Thread Kenneth Rhodes
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 18:33 -0500, BJ Tracy wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Well my plans are moving ahead and I need to know if there is a user
> friendly web page design software package for linux that those of you
> have used and like.  I'm using Mandrake 10.0.
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> B.J. Tracy

I am a novice at webpage design -*.htm document editing. I've tried
Quanta Plus, Screem, Mozilla Composer and just now took a look at Nvu.

Mozilla Composer seems the most intuitive and easy to use.  :)

HTH,



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Re: [newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-15 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 18:33 -0500, BJ Tracy wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Well my plans are moving ahead and I need to know if there is a user
> friendly web page design software package for linux that those of you
> have used and like.  I'm using Mandrake 10.0.
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> B.J. Tracy

You might like NVU
http://www.nvu.com/


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[newbie] Web Page Design Software

2005-02-15 Thread BJ Tracy
Hello All,

Well my plans are moving ahead and I need to know if there is a user
friendly web page design software package for linux that those of you
have used and like.  I'm using Mandrake 10.0.

TIA


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