Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
SNIP > > Mark, what's the problem with shorewall ? - I'm running it > and don't like to be nervous. When I was on 8.x I had > Bastille, but I suppose Mandrake has good reasons to > replace it with Shorewall. Your opinion, please ? > SNIP I didn't like shorewall because i couldn't get to work with IP masqerading... the 2nd machine connected via crossover cable simply couldn't connect to the internet no matter what I tried, but a rc.firewall script (i found via the IP MASQ howto somewhere) fixed it all after I removed shorewall. my 2cents. Jerry. -- Registered Linux User #300600 Registered Linux Machine #185855 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
On Friday 10 January 2003 05:54 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: > Milos Prudek wrote: > > Kesav Tadimeti wrote: > >> Hi, > >> Someone (Sir Robin I believe) said that V8.1 was bad and 8.2 was > >> Mandrake's > >> best release yet. Mandrake Linux 9.0 didn't receive a favorable review > >> from > >> OS news .com. Is it better to wait for 9.1 or go ahead for 9.0? And > >> how do I > > > > I am a former Red Hat user. I used Red Hat on my desktop since 1999. > > > > Mandrake 9.0 is my first Mandrake. It is very good indeed, and I have > > found no show stoppers or major problems with Mandrake 9. > > > :) you haven't tried to do serious networking with it yet, have you. I > > personally am holding out for 9.2 to become official before even going > near any of my servers with the CD. 9.0 is a gorgeous and stable > workstation, but has a few too many challenges where servers are > concerned. I'm really hoping they drop shorewall from the package. > Although that will quickly become a mute point for me when I get my > diskless firewall up and running. I won't need an entire OS to handle > that job. I have ML9.0 on two computers, one is a stand alone web server and the other is networked to a windows comp and runs through a firewall with IPcop on it. IPCop uses shorewall and I have had shorewall running on the other computers as well. No problems the open to the internet web server has not been hacked to date. So what seems to be the issue with shorewall with some folks is that on initial install of 9.0 seems like you have to go in and do a small amount of configuration or pretend to any way and then internet connections work dandy. It is a bit of a puzzle why it works that way. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
On Friday 10 Jan 2003 11:54 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: > Milos Prudek wrote: > > Kesav Tadimeti wrote: > >> Hi, > >> Someone (Sir Robin I believe) said that V8.1 was bad and 8.2 was > >> Mandrake's > >> best release yet. Mandrake Linux 9.0 didn't receive a favorable review > >> from > >> OS news .com. Is it better to wait for 9.1 or go ahead for 9.0? And > >> how do I > > > > I am a former Red Hat user. I used Red Hat on my desktop since 1999. > > > > Mandrake 9.0 is my first Mandrake. It is very good indeed, and I have > > found no show stoppers or major problems with Mandrake 9. > > > :) you haven't tried to do serious networking with it yet, have you. I > > personally am holding out for 9.2 to become official before even going > near any of my servers with the CD. 9.0 is a gorgeous and stable > workstation, but has a few too many challenges where servers are > concerned. I'm really hoping they drop shorewall from the package. > Although that will quickly become a moot point for me when I get my > diskless firewall up and running. I won't need an entire OS to handle > that job. With *every* release you will always hear stories of people for whom an older release worked better on their hardware. I heard it for 8.0, 8.1, and 8.2, and no doubt I will hear it about 9.1 as well. Mandrake 8.2 was a very fine release indeed, and so is 9.0. I find 9.0 to be very stable, and the work Mandrake has done on security and server configuration makes it a very good server release IMO. You do not hear about these things in reviews like OSNews because all they do is install the OS judge how 'pretty' it looks, and then go onto the next one. I also like shorewall. It is very easy to set up once you get over the fact it is text based, and is very powerful for the 'power users'. (It is also powering my discless firewall) But whichever version you decide to run, I would still recommend a clean install formatting all but your /home partition. There are 'no surprises' that way. HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
On Friday 10 January 2003 11:54 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: > > personally am holding out for 9.2 to become official > before even going near any of my servers with the CD. > 9.0 is a gorgeous and stable workstation, but has a few > too many challenges where servers are concerned. I'm > really hoping they drop shorewall from the package. > Although that will quickly become a mute point for me > when I get my diskless firewall up and running. I won't > need an entire OS to handle that job. Mark, what's the problem with shorewall ? - I'm running it and don't like to be nervous. When I was on 8.x I had Bastille, but I suppose Mandrake has good reasons to replace it with Shorewall. Your opinion, please ? Kaj Haulrich Denmark. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 08 Jan 2003 11:08 am, Walt Frampus wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 02:18, Kesav Tadimeti wrote: Hi, Someone (Sir Robin I believe) said that V8.1 was bad and 8.2 was Mandrake's best release yet. Mandrake Linux 9.0 didn't receive a favorable review from OS news .com. Is it better to wait for 9.1 or go ahead for 9.0? And how do I upgrade an existing 8.1 to 9.0. Delete the /, /usr mounts and reinstall? Please help. Thanks in advance... keshav I love 9.0 but have to use it on an older machine because it doesn't like the chipset on my newest computer but 8.2 will work flawlessly on it. Not sure if any problems would incur if you choose 'upgrade' when you put disk one of 9.0 in. It worked for 8.2 but I actually prefer a clean install. Agreed - go for the clean install. Anne I'll second and third that. Upgrades are troublesome and can be problematic at best. Clean installs are always best. -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 & 9.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
On Wednesday 08 Jan 2003 11:08 am, Walt Frampus wrote: > On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 02:18, Kesav Tadimeti wrote: > > Hi, > > Someone (Sir Robin I believe) said that V8.1 was bad and 8.2 was > > Mandrake's best release yet. Mandrake Linux 9.0 didn't receive a > > favorable review from OS news .com. Is it better to wait for 9.1 or go > > ahead for 9.0? And how do I upgrade an existing 8.1 to 9.0. Delete the /, > > /usr mounts and reinstall? Please help. > > > > Thanks in advance... > > keshav > > > > > > I love 9.0 but have to use it on an older machine because it doesn't > like the chipset on my newest computer but 8.2 will work flawlessly on > it. Not sure if any problems would incur if you choose 'upgrade' when > you put disk one of 9.0 in. It worked for 8.2 but I actually prefer a > clean install. Agreed - go for the clean install. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 02:18, Kesav Tadimeti wrote: > Hi, > Someone (Sir Robin I believe) said that V8.1 was bad and 8.2 was Mandrake's > best release yet. Mandrake Linux 9.0 didn't receive a favorable review from > OS news .com. Is it better to wait for 9.1 or go ahead for 9.0? And how do I > upgrade an existing 8.1 to 9.0. Delete the /, /usr mounts and reinstall? > Please help. > > Thanks in advance... > keshav > > I love 9.0 but have to use it on an older machine because it doesn't like the chipset on my newest computer but 8.2 will work flawlessly on it. Not sure if any problems would incur if you choose 'upgrade' when you put disk one of 9.0 in. It worked for 8.2 but I actually prefer a clean install. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
On Wednesday 08 Jan 2003 9:39 am, Milos Prudek wrote: > Kesav Tadimeti wrote: > > Hi, > > Someone (Sir Robin I believe) said that V8.1 was bad and 8.2 was > > Mandrake's best release yet. Mandrake Linux 9.0 didn't receive a > > favorable review from OS news .com. Is it better to wait for 9.1 or go > > ahead for 9.0? And how do I > > I am a former Red Hat user. I used Red Hat on my desktop since 1999. > > Mandrake 9.0 is my first Mandrake. It is very good indeed, and I have > found no show stoppers or major problems with Mandrake 9. For some of us 9.0 is brilliant, for others a disaster. It appears that it depends very much on your personal mix of hardware (and possibly software). If you have room for both I would suggest keeping what you have got and installing 9.0. You can keep all the old partitions, just mount them under different names if you want to mount them at all. (I mounted 8.2's /home as /oldhome, so that it would be easy to check any config files etc.) If yours turns out to be one of the machines where 9.0 doesn't work well you can zap it and install 8.2 instead. Just my 2p worth, based on my experience. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
Kesav Tadimeti wrote: Hi, Someone (Sir Robin I believe) said that V8.1 was bad and 8.2 was Mandrake's best release yet. Mandrake Linux 9.0 didn't receive a favorable review from OS news .com. Is it better to wait for 9.1 or go ahead for 9.0? And how do I I am a former Red Hat user. I used Red Hat on my desktop since 1999. Mandrake 9.0 is my first Mandrake. It is very good indeed, and I have found no show stoppers or major problems with Mandrake 9. -- Milos Prudek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which version of Mandrake?
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 18:18, Kesav Tadimeti wrote: > Hi, > Someone (Sir Robin I believe) said that V8.1 was bad and 8.2 was Mandrake's > best release yet. Mandrake Linux 9.0 didn't receive a favorable review from > OS news .com. Is it better to wait for 9.1 or go ahead for 9.0? And how do I > upgrade an existing 8.1 to 9.0. Delete the /, /usr mounts and reinstall? > Please help. > > Thanks in advance... > keshav You might want to install 8.2 for absolute stability and the likes, but if you're into "bleeding edge" and the likes, go for 9. Personally, I'm waiting for 9.1 to become official before doing my "personal boxen" - but it's happy living in an emulated session or on one of the other workstations around the house. That's IMHO - so y'all don't throw stones at me now! -- Wed Jan 8 18:55:00 EST 2003 6:55pm up 1:43, 4 users, load average: 0.22, 0.21, 0.75 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- * linux user:267497 * RH 7.3+ * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Vulcans do not approve of violence. -- Spock, "Journey to Babel", stardate 3842.4 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
