Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 21:27:41 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 03:07, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > On Thursday 02 October 2003 10:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: > > > > > Finger-Licking-Good-Femme > > > > > > (or so they tell me) > > > > I can see a herd of lawyers from "Kentucky Fried Chicken" > > bearing down on you, even as we speak Femme! :-) > > Brings to mind the same old question: > > Smells like fish - tastes like chicken > Smells like chicken - tastes like fish > > ?? > > Only FEMME can answer that one... > > stephen kuhn - owner *blink...* I'm not touching that one... EVER... F Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 21:17:10 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 02:08, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > > Femme: > > Well, now we know why you didn't choose a career in the diplomatic > > service.-- cmg > > Yeah - that might be true...God...I wanted to say something horribly > rude, but I can't bring myself to do it - FEMME - HAND ME SOME DRUGS. > NOW. PRONTO. > > stephen kuhn - owner *gives stephen some morphine...* cut em in half so they don't kill you dear & call the paramedics if you start breathing very shallowly orgoing too numb. :) PharmaFemme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Saturday 04 October 2003 11:53 am, Aron Smith wrote: > As the Taxidermist said(while. taking his girlfriend to dinner) you > gotta stuff the bird before you mount it Yea, and I'm a "firm" believer that one in the "bush" is worth 2 in the hand anytime -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 02:39, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Friday 03 October 2003 05:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: > > > hehe... hm... think they'd let me off if I put the little Copyright > > symbol in there? > > Debatable... > > > Running from Col.Sanders > > Femme > > Hehehehe, you better - I hear one of his fav slogans is "the birds the > word" As the Taxidermist said(while. taking his girlfriend to dinner) you gotta stuff the bird before you mount it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Friday 03 October 2003 05:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: > hehe... hm... think they'd let me off if I put the little Copyright > symbol in there? Debatable... > Running from Col.Sanders > Femme Hehehehe, you better - I hear one of his fav slogans is "the birds the word" -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Friday 03 October 2003 01:33 pm, mwafkowski wrote: > There is no "Kentucky Fried Chicken", remember, as in Kentucy - associated > with rednecks?/fried chicken-as in fried=heart attacks. > > It's KFC to you , Suh! > > MRW Well, I do live in Kentucky... I did stain (cedar siding) part of my house yesterday, so the back of my neck could be a bit red...from the Sun... and I like fried chicken, so I guess I'll take my chances :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:07:42 -0400 "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 02 October 2003 10:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: > > > Finger-Licking-Good-Femme > > > > (or so they tell me) > > I can see a herd of lawyers from "Kentucky Fried Chicken" > bearing down on you, even as we speak Femme! :-) > > -- > > /\ > Dark> \/ > > > hehe... hm... think they'd let me off if I put the little Copyright symbol in there? Running from Col.Sanders Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:08:42 -0400 Carroll Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 02 October 2003 07:52 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 > > > > "M J Pipkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please > > > send no further newbie "communications"and remove my name from > > > your list. > > > > and who the flying monkey fuck are you? > > > > remove yourself. > > > > don't bitch at us for signing you up...you did that yourself or > > someone who knows your address did. > > > > Femme > > Femme: > Well, now we know why you didn't choose a career in the diplomatic > service.-- cmg > > > heh Mr.Curmudgeon yessir... I um got up on the wrong side of the email that day. ya... I suck at diplomacy some days... :) least I admit it? F Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
There is no "Kentucky Fried Chicken", remember, as in Kentucy - associated with rednecks?/fried chicken-as in fried=heart attacks. It's KFC to you , Suh! MRW - Original Message - From: "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ? > On Thursday 02 October 2003 10:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: > > > Finger-Licking-Good-Femme > > > > (or so they tell me) > > I can see a herd of lawyers from "Kentucky Fried Chicken" bearing > down on you, even as we speak Femme! :-) > > -- > > /\ > Dark> \/ > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thursday 02 October 2003 10:31 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: > Finger-Licking-Good-Femme > > (or so they tell me) I can see a herd of lawyers from "Kentucky Fried Chicken" bearing down on you, even as we speak Femme! :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thursday 02 October 2003 07:52 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 > > "M J Pipkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send > > no further newbie "communications"and remove my name from your list. > > and who the flying monkey fuck are you? > > remove yourself. > > don't bitch at us for signing you up...you did that yourself or someone > who knows your address did. > > Femme Femme: Well, now we know why you didn't choose a career in the diplomatic service. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 23:56:52 -0400 Todd Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't be so hard on yourself, Femme, it probably *was* addressed > directly to you. I got one myself and was tempted to respond in like > manner, but just told him he must have signed himself up since the > list requires confirmation and that he needs to take responsibility > for his own actions. But yeah, it was real hard not to say f*** off. > And I checked it was addressed directly to me, which is weird since I > assume it's a filter this idiot has set up, but it's replying to the > original sender. By default hitting reply to the list sends mail to > the list, not the sender. Oh, but wait: > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > > 'nuff said. > > t > > ty Todd... lol K now I don't feel so bad. ;P Finger-Licking-Good-Femme (or so they tell me) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 23:45:57 -0400 Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the love of pete--if anyone responds to this, please tar and gzip > the list first! 8-D > > Miark > > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:23:34 -0400, Heather/Femme > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Two times in aas many weeks... wth is wrong with me? > > I will pretend I understood that, nod dumbly & look happy. Confuzzled Femmester Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:23:34PM -0400, Heather/Femme wrote: > On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:12:14 -0400 > Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday 02 October 2003 19:52, Heather/Femme wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 > > > "M J Pipkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please > > > > send no further newbie "communications"and remove my name from > > > > your list. > > > > > > and who the flying monkey fuck are you? > > > > > > remove yourself. > > > > > > don't bitch at us for signing you up...you did that yourself or > > > someone who knows your address did. > > > > > > Femme > > > > > > > > Easy FF. No sense getting your undies in a bunch over an idiot that > > can't even remember he signed up for a list. AFAIK, you have to > > confirm you want to be signed up too, so it is not likely it was a > > freind playing a joke on him. > > -- > > /g > > > > K now i'm a puddle of red embarassed goo on the ground... I *thought* it > came to me directly! not the list...as it was addressed to my email > addy.. > > ffs... > > sigh > > apologies to the list again. > > Two times in aas many weeks... wth is wrong with me? Don't be so hard on yourself, Femme, it probably *was* addressed directly to you. I got one myself and was tempted to respond in like manner, but just told him he must have signed himself up since the list requires confirmation and that he needs to take responsibility for his own actions. But yeah, it was real hard not to say f*** off. And I checked it was addressed directly to me, which is weird since I assume it's a filter this idiot has set up, but it's replying to the original sender. By default hitting reply to the list sends mail to the list, not the sender. Oh, but wait: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 'nuff said. t Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
For the love of pete--if anyone responds to this, please tar and gzip the list first! 8-D Miark On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:23:34 -0400, Heather/Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Two times in aas many weeks... wth is wrong with me? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:12:14 -0400 Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 02 October 2003 19:52, Heather/Femme wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 > > "M J Pipkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please > > > send no further newbie "communications"and remove my name from > > > your list. > > > > and who the flying monkey fuck are you? > > > > remove yourself. > > > > don't bitch at us for signing you up...you did that yourself or > > someone who knows your address did. > > > > Femme > > > > > Easy FF. No sense getting your undies in a bunch over an idiot that > can't even remember he signed up for a list. AFAIK, you have to > confirm you want to be signed up too, so it is not likely it was a > freind playing a joke on him. > -- > /g > K now i'm a puddle of red embarassed goo on the ground... I *thought* it came to me directly! not the list...as it was addressed to my email addy.. ffs... sigh apologies to the list again. Two times in aas many weeks... wth is wrong with me? Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 2, 2003 05:52 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 > > "M J Pipkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send > > no further newbie "communications"and remove my name from your list. > > and who the flying monkey fuck are you? > > remove yourself. > > don't bitch at us for signing you up...you did that yourself or someone > who knows your address did. > > Femme Yeah; I've been getting one of those "Spam" whining, post nasal drip responses from mjpimple (or is that simple?) to every post I've made to newbie since late this afternoon. As if the sms bullcrap from Russia wasn't enough. They're both /dev/nulled now so they can waste all the time they like. I generally ignore morons that won't follow instructions posted in clear language. Peace; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 20:07:20 up 12 days, 9:28, 1 user, load average: 0.26, 0.25, 0.42 Of all men's miseries, the bitterest is this: to know so much and have control over nothing. -- Herodotus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fNv0G11CaRuZZSIRAt0NAKCP2sp7FLVIfY0zjlEbsDs/TZiL+QCfYbOh S2it834Q3ZJF99j5BGst99E= =RY80 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thursday 02 October 2003 19:52, Heather/Femme wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 > "M J Pipkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send > > no further newbie "communications"and remove my name from your list. > > and who the flying monkey fuck are you? > > remove yourself. > > don't bitch at us for signing you up...you did that yourself or someone > who knows your address did. > > Femme > > Easy FF. No sense getting your undies in a bunch over an idiot that can't even remember he signed up for a list. AFAIK, you have to confirm you want to be signed up too, so it is not likely it was a freind playing a joke on him. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 19:52, Heather/Femme wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 > "M J Pipkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send > > no further newbie "communications"and remove my name from your list. > > and who the flying monkey fuck are you? > > remove yourself. > > don't bitch at us for signing you up...you did that yourself or someone > who knows your address did. > > Femme Well I am glad to know I ain't the only one > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 "M J Pipkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send > no further newbie "communications"and remove my name from your list. and who the flying monkey fuck are you? remove yourself. don't bitch at us for signing you up...you did that yourself or someone who knows your address did. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On 02 Oct 2003 06:43:41 -0400 ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 21:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > > > And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to > > resuscitate my old Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system > > four months ago. I don't need no aggravation. > > -- cmg > > > > > this statement makes me wonder,,, > I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few > problems(me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I know > I 'can' fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't need to > bother with those partitions. I wonder how many of 'previous' > dual-booters are waiting for hell to freeze before they find the time > to fix their MS partitions. > some day I may hose windows...and if I do..well I'll fix it asap likely as there is still stuff I only do in windows..though that is diminishing rapidly...as I have not booted to windows in 4 weeks now. :) I'm a little Femme, short & stout! Tip Me over & make me Shout! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thursday 02 Oct 2003 11:43 am, ed tharp wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 21:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to > > resuscitate my old Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system > > four months ago. I don't need no aggravation. > > -- cmg > > this statement makes me wonder,,, > I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few > problems (me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I > know I 'can' fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't > need to bother with those partitions. I wonder how many of > 'previous' dual-booters are waiting for hell to freeze before they > find the time to fix their MS partitions. That's how I lost w2k. I started out on w2k/w98/Mdk8.1 Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 2, 2003 04:43 am, ed tharp wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 21:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to resuscitate my > > old Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system four months ago. I > > don't need no aggravation. > > -- cmg > > this statement makes me wonder,,, > I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few problems > (me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I know I 'can' > fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't need to bother > with those partitions. I wonder how many of 'previous' dual-booters are > waiting for hell to freeze before they find the time to fix their MS > partitions. Hi Ed; I played the dual boot game for nearly two years; until one day I decided that I needed a "local mirror" of some distribution or other and the only "available" space of an adequate size on any partition on any of the drives was where Windows 98 SE lived. I actually had to try to remember when the last time I had booted that OS was. 3 months was my best guess. That's where the mirror went. This all happened in the year 2000. So I guess you could say I fixed my MS drive. Permanently. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 11:29:51 up 12 days, 50 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.07 We are anthill men upon an anthill world. -- Ray Bradbury -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fGIJG11CaRuZZSIRAkIEAJ4mH/k4xZSKDXClgyLybjXK+21WNACdFxAK 2eH3OZDACfmvpVpTkrED3l8= =2TBq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 20:43, ed tharp wrote: > this statement makes me wonder,,, > I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few problems > (me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I know I 'can' > fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't need to bother > with those partitions. I wonder how many of 'previous' dual-booters are > waiting for hell to freeze before they find the time to fix their MS > partitions. I've got an XP Pro partition on my server - it's been a year since it's been booted - two motherboards and some other hardware since that time - and the thought of even taking the server down aside from it's monthly dust-out/shutdown - which I try to minimise the downtime - can't seem to bring myself to even TRYING booting into the XP Pro partition...hate to think how much shit I'll have to deal with in the first place - finding all the new hardware - drivers - reboots - and THEN the frigging patches - yikes...nah...it's a small partition and I'll save it for a really really rainy day...if ever... If I want to torture myself enough, I fire up a VM session - and only for a short while...that's bad enough... Besides, I'm married. I'm tortured enough as it is without having Micro$SCOft torture me further... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Yow! Now we can become alcoholics! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
ed tharp wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 21:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote: And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to resuscitate my old Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system four months ago. I don't need no aggravation. -- cmg this statement makes me wonder,,, I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few problems (me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I know I 'can' fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't need to bother with those partitions. I wonder how many of 'previous' dual-booters are waiting for hell to freeze before they find the time to fix their MS partitions. to me , the only reason to fix the win partition is if you use it for something. I use 1. ( one ) , ( uno ) programs that I can't run in linux. otherwise I'd simply remove windows altogether. if you have to run a win app thru crossover or need excel or something, you kinda have to fix them sometimes. sadly I have fixed windows partition way too many times. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA == Dual booting 98lite;MDK 9.1 stock kernel Kde 3.1 Registered Linux User #248955 liquid/acqua Theme == "If obstacles are what you see in your path... Then you have lost sight of your goal! " Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 21:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to resuscitate my old > Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system four months ago. I don't need > no aggravation. > -- cmg > > this statement makes me wonder,,, I have/had a triple boot, winME, Win2k, and MDK9.1. after a few problems (me screwing around) hosed first winME and then 2k, and I know I 'can' fix them, it just takes time, and reboots, and I don't need to bother with those partitions. I wonder how many of 'previous' dual-booters are waiting for hell to freeze before they find the time to fix their MS partitions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
El jue, 02-10-2003 a las 03:03, Anne Wilson escribió: > On Thursday 02 Oct 2003 1:44 am, Damian Gatabria wrote: > > > > Whenever a desktop user sees a problem in his screen, he/she > > goes "uf", grabs the phone and calls you. > > > > This is why they seem so stubborn and closed-minded about change. > > It's, quite simply, not their concern. You (we) are the ones > > supposed to keep the computer going. right? That's what > > we get paid for. > > > You overlook the fear element. It is very real for many people > > Anne You are right... forgot about the fear thingy. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Thursday 02 Oct 2003 1:44 am, Damian Gatabria wrote: > > Whenever a desktop user sees a problem in his screen, he/she > goes "uf", grabs the phone and calls you. > > This is why they seem so stubborn and closed-minded about change. > It's, quite simply, not their concern. You (we) are the ones > supposed to keep the computer going. right? That's what > we get paid for. > You overlook the fear element. It is very real for many people Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
> However, once you finally get Windows up and running, you have > none of the above other than the notorious Explorer malware > transport system. Um, that would be *virus* transport system... -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 03:57 pm, Chris Blake wrote: > Greetings, > > Just an OT question since I been using MDK for the last 9 months and am > frustrated that I still have to install Windows for my clients. > > Why does Linux install everything in one go, with minimal input required > by user, and windows reboots every .5 seconds whenever something is > detected. > > As an example, I am currently installing Win2K and Win98 on 7 machines, > first you install the OS that requires around 10 reboots, then once you > done that you then have to install motherboard drivers and things which > requires another million reboots before you can actually say > "Well, now its over, I can actually use the fscking thing now " > > Why ? Chris: In spite of all of the FUD that you've read on ZDNet and that ilk, installing Linux is a pretty simple thing to do. But then you knew that. You left out the fact that when your Linux installation is done, you've pretty much got everything you need -- a choice of browsers, several office suites, games, utilities until hell won't have it, servers, compilers. With luck, even your network and web access are working. It usually takes me about an hour to install a new Mandrake version to the point where I can access the web. However, once you finally get Windows up and running, you have none of the above other than the notorious Explorer malware transport system. First, you'll need a virus scanner and a firewall, then you'll have to get all of the MS updates, updates to the updates, updates to the updated updates -- each of which involves yet another reboot. Repeat for hardware drivers, with the added joy that you'll have to seek out each manufacturer's site and negotiate through yet another maze of menus. OK, bubba, now you can load your applications. Again, you'll have to get the latest updates. Yup -- more surfing, more reboots. Whoopee! And now you know why I haven't gotten the nerve to try to resuscitate my old Win98SE installation since I rebuilt my system four months ago. I don't need no aggravation. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why so many reboots ?
That's the price you pay when you tie absolutely everything to the kernel. Adding a new driver? --> reload the kernel (=reboot) Changing HW config? --> reload the kernel (=reboot) and so on.. on win98, reboots are really impossible to explain. Changing an ip address? (or any aspect of the network setup at all) --> reboot. On the other hand, i think you are exaggerating a little bit -- 10 reboots to install the OS? more like 3... :oP and finally, to answer your question: Because people don't want to learn, don't care about the problems they can't see (closed standards? what's that?) and because those problems you see with Windows setup being painful is not their problem really (even if they were to use Linux, they would be calling you --or someone else-- in order to get things to work. Whether it's hard and requires a million reboots or not, it's your problem. They don't wanna --and won't-- do it themselves). Whenever a problem appears on your screen, you try to figure what happened and how to fix it or avoid it from happening again. Whenever a desktop user sees a problem in his screen, he/she goes "uf", grabs the phone and calls you. This is why they seem so stubborn and closed-minded about change. It's, quite simply, not their concern. You (we) are the ones supposed to keep the computer going. right? That's what we get paid for. Of course, any of us can start babbling things like "OH BUT IT *IS* THEIR PROBLEM TOO! HOW ABOUT ..(fill in problem here).." But 95% of the pc-using population just don't know or care. Or, at least, that's the way i see it. El mié, 01-10-2003 a las 16:57, Chris Blake escribió: > Greetings, > > Just an OT question since I been using MDK for the last 9 months and am > frustrated that I still have to install Windows for my clients. > > Why does Linux install everything in one go, with minimal input required > by user, and windows reboots every .5 seconds whenever something is > detected. > > As an example, I am currently installing Win2K and Win98 on 7 machines, > first you install the OS that requires around 10 reboots, then once you > done that you then have to install motherboard drivers and things which > requires another million reboots before you can actually say > "Well, now its over, I can actually use the fscking thing now " > > Why ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Why so many reboots ?
Greetings, Just an OT question since I been using MDK for the last 9 months and am frustrated that I still have to install Windows for my clients. Why does Linux install everything in one go, with minimal input required by user, and windows reboots every .5 seconds whenever something is detected. As an example, I am currently installing Win2K and Win98 on 7 machines, first you install the OS that requires around 10 reboots, then once you done that you then have to install motherboard drivers and things which requires another million reboots before you can actually say "Well, now its over, I can actually use the fscking thing now " Why ? -- Chris Blake Support Consultant Office : (011) 782-0840 Fax: (011) 782-0841 Mobile : 083 985 0379 Website: http://www.pbpc.co.za Everyone's in a high place when you're on your knees. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
