Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-23 Thread civileme

On Thursday 23 August 2001 11:48, Solver wrote:
> May I send you the source code, please? I have it.
> Solver
> - Original Message -
> From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Solver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?
>
> > On Wednesday 22 August 2001 11:12, Solver wrote:
> > > People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, ".a files for modules"?
>
> I
>
> > > would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not necessarily
>
> the
>
> > > solution for it.
> > > Please reply to it.
> > > Solver
> >
> > dsp.a is not a linux construct.  It is apparently a property of a
>
> binary-only driver that
>
> > is as clear to everyone as a black box.  If the driver does not have
>
> built-in capabilities
>
> > for dealing with dsp.a, then your driver is incomplete.
> >
> > Of course, if the driver is supplied in source, 100%, then it is likely I
>
> could help you,
>
> > because then I have a means of discovering the meaning of this odd
>
> protocol.
>
> > That's why no one is helping.
> >
> > Now theoretically it is possible to disassemble the code to source of a
>
> sort and proceed
>
> > to reverse engineer the driver.  The Digital Millenium Copyright Act of
>
> 1998 which
>
> > also governs the activities of foreign nationals in foreign countries if
>
> they should ever
>
> > happen to visit the US (As Dmitry Sklyarov discovered) most likely makes
>
> it a felony
>
> > to do this for your winmodem.
> >
> > That's another reason no one is helping.  I might like to return to the
> > US
>
> someday.
>
> > And folks, set your KMail to ALWAYS show the same fonts, and you will
> > have
>
> no more
>
> > problems from win-1252 or win-1257 encodings.
> >
> >
> > Civileme
>
> ---

Umm, sheesh, you caught me at a bad time.  I have too many plates spinning now and 
we're in beta here
at mandrakesoft which means that if we sleep more than 4 hours a day, we need a 
medical excuse and a 
1000 word essay promising never to do it again during a beta ;-}  I am unsure when it 
will be over.

But there are certainly some competent engineers out there who might like to look at 
winmodem source.  If
it is truly free software, there are probably a few who'd like to hack on it.  I 
suggest you post this question
to the expert list.

Civileme




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Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-23 Thread Solver

May I send you the source code, please? I have it.
Solver
- Original Message -
From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Solver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?


> On Wednesday 22 August 2001 11:12, Solver wrote:
> > People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, ".a files for modules"?
I
> > would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not necessarily
the
> > solution for it.
> > Please reply to it.
> > Solver
>
> dsp.a is not a linux construct.  It is apparently a property of a
binary-only driver that
> is as clear to everyone as a black box.  If the driver does not have
built-in capabilities
> for dealing with dsp.a, then your driver is incomplete.
>
> Of course, if the driver is supplied in source, 100%, then it is likely I
could help you,
> because then I have a means of discovering the meaning of this odd
protocol.
>
> That's why no one is helping.
>
> Now theoretically it is possible to disassemble the code to source of a
sort and proceed
> to reverse engineer the driver.  The Digital Millenium Copyright Act of
1998 which
> also governs the activities of foreign nationals in foreign countries if
they should ever
> happen to visit the US (As Dmitry Sklyarov discovered) most likely makes
it a felony
> to do this for your winmodem.
>
> That's another reason no one is helping.  I might like to return to the US
someday.
>
> And folks, set your KMail to ALWAYS show the same fonts, and you will have
no more
> problems from win-1252 or win-1257 encodings.
>
>
> Civileme
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-22 Thread etharp

"It's also important to understand that there's no answers available from 
this list, only opinions.
Some of them just happen to be, or are intended to be helpful ;-}>"
*Tom Brinkman


On Wednesday 22 August 2001 19:20, Tim Holmes wrote:
> Well the only response to the message you sent was the best on.  The
> reason why I didn't respond to your post.
>
> The solutions that would cause the least amount of headaches would be to
> buy a REAL modem.  Even if you did get the WinModem working, you'd be
> sending posts asking why it disconnects like it does.  All because
> poorly written beta drivers for something never intended to run under a
> real operating system.
>
> But, just to humor you, since you seem to feel neglected at the lists
> "failure" to help you, I'll offer some help for your problem.
>
> You may need a newer and/or recompiled kernel to accept the module for
> your "modem."  Not knowing which version of Mandrake, or what kernel
> you're using, I couldn't speculate as to what is needed.
>
> When you found that your modem actually has a driver for Linux, still
> doesn't mean it will work for your machine, with your kernel, or even
> with Mandrake.
>
> Mandrake is becoming more and more popular, and more mainstreamed (As
> much as Linux can be at this point in time.) but those drivers were
> written and compiled for RedHat 6.2 or RedHat 7.0.  Maybe even Debian,
> so you may even need to compile the driver yourself in hopes of getting
> it to work under your Mandrake machine.  But let's not get into the
> state of mind where people think if there's a driver, especially beta,
> then it's supported under Linux.
>
> And this is a Users List.  Just because you post an question, doesn't
> mean it's going to be responded to.  If you don't get a response, try
> posting it to the EXPERT list.  Or try going to MandrakeCampus.com, or
> going through more doc pages.  I've posted quite a few questions to the
> board that nobody replies to.  Either they don't read it, or they have
> no clue on how to help.  Keep that in mind as well as take some
> recommendations with a grain of salt.  What worked for them, may not
> work for you.
>
> As well as any sort of formated text is the first kind of email to get
> deleted.  For those of us that use console based mailers like pine, elm,
> or mutt, HTML emails aren't worth the ~/.mailcap entry.
> tdh


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Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-22 Thread Tim Holmes

Well the only response to the message you sent was the best on.  The
reason why I didn't respond to your post.  

The solutions that would cause the least amount of headaches would be to
buy a REAL modem.  Even if you did get the WinModem working, you'd be
sending posts asking why it disconnects like it does.  All because
poorly written beta drivers for something never intended to run under a
real operating system.

But, just to humor you, since you seem to feel neglected at the lists
"failure" to help you, I'll offer some help for your problem.

You may need a newer and/or recompiled kernel to accept the module for
your "modem."  Not knowing which version of Mandrake, or what kernel
you're using, I couldn't speculate as to what is needed.

When you found that your modem actually has a driver for Linux, still
doesn't mean it will work for your machine, with your kernel, or even
with Mandrake.

Mandrake is becoming more and more popular, and more mainstreamed (As
much as Linux can be at this point in time.) but those drivers were
written and compiled for RedHat 6.2 or RedHat 7.0.  Maybe even Debian,
so you may even need to compile the driver yourself in hopes of getting
it to work under your Mandrake machine.  But let's not get into the
state of mind where people think if there's a driver, especially beta,
then it's supported under Linux.

And this is a Users List.  Just because you post an question, doesn't
mean it's going to be responded to.  If you don't get a response, try
posting it to the EXPERT list.  Or try going to MandrakeCampus.com, or
going through more doc pages.  I've posted quite a few questions to the
board that nobody replies to.  Either they don't read it, or they have
no clue on how to help.  Keep that in mind as well as take some
recommendations with a grain of salt.  What worked for them, may not
work for you.

As well as any sort of formated text is the first kind of email to get
deleted.  For those of us that use console based mailers like pine, elm,
or mutt, HTML emails aren't worth the ~/.mailcap entry.
tdh

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| People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, ".a files for modules"? I
| would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not necessarily the
| solution for it.
| Please reply to it.
| Solver
| 
| 

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Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-22 Thread etharp

either that or we (I) don't have a clue as to what your message was, and why 
you need to know about .a files and what they have to do with modules 
etither, anyway.

On Wednesday 22 August 2001 12:24, Tim Barnard wrote:
> People aren't replying because you're probably doing what I did on my first
> posting, sending HTML formatted email. Try resending as Plain Text.
>
> Tim
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Solver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Linux Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:12 AM
> Subject: [newbie] Why won't you help me?
>
> > People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, ".a files for modules"? I
> > would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not necessarily
>
> the
>
> > solution for it.
> > Please reply to it.
> > Solver
>
> ---
>- 
>
> > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
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Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-22 Thread Paul

It was Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:24:05 -0700 when Tim Barnard wrote:

>People aren't replying because you're probably doing what I did on my first
>posting, sending HTML formatted email. Try resending as Plain Text.

Or they just don't know...
Paul

>Tim
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Solver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Linux Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:12 AM
>Subject: [newbie] Why won't you help me?
>
>
>> People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, ".a files for modules"? I
>> would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not necessarily
>the
>> solution for it.
>> Please reply to it.
>> Solver
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
>> Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
>>
>
>
>


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Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-22 Thread Tim Barnard


I take it as a joke, as it was sent in Plain Text, anyway.


Then try again and double check the format. Your msgs are incredibly small
and nearly unreadable.

Tim

- Original Message -
From: "Solver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?


> I take it as a joke, as it was sent in Plain Text, anyway.
> In despair,
> Solver
> - Original Message -
> From: "Harvey Janson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Solver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?
>
>
> > The fonts in your msg are too small for me to read without straining my
> > eyes. I am using KMail. Perhaps, other people also had trouble reading
> your
> > post.
> >
> >   peace,
> >   Harvey
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday 22 August 2001 11:12, Solver wrote:
> > > People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, ".a files for
modules"?
> I
> > > would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not
necessarily
> the
> > > solution for it.
> > > Please reply to it.
> > > Solver
> >
> > 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1257"; name="message.footer"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > Content-Description:
> > 
> >
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-22 Thread Solver

I take it as a joke, as it was sent in Plain Text, anyway.
In despair,
Solver
- Original Message -
From: "Harvey Janson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Solver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?


> The fonts in your msg are too small for me to read without straining my
> eyes. I am using KMail. Perhaps, other people also had trouble reading
your
> post.
>
>   peace,
>   Harvey
>
>
> On Wednesday 22 August 2001 11:12, Solver wrote:
> > People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, ".a files for modules"?
I
> > would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not necessarily
the
> > solution for it.
> > Please reply to it.
> > Solver
>
> 
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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>




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Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-22 Thread Tim Barnard

People aren't replying because you're probably doing what I did on my first
posting, sending HTML formatted email. Try resending as Plain Text.

Tim

- Original Message -
From: "Solver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Linux Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:12 AM
Subject: [newbie] Why won't you help me?


> People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, ".a files for modules"? I
> would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not necessarily
the
> solution for it.
> Please reply to it.
> Solver
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-22 Thread Harvey Janson

 The fonts in your msg are too small for me to read without straining my 
eyes. I am using KMail. Perhaps, other people also had trouble reading your 
post.

  peace,
  Harvey


On Wednesday 22 August 2001 11:12, Solver wrote:
> People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, ".a files for modules"? I
> would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not necessarily the
> solution for it.
> Please reply to it.
> Solver


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[newbie] Why won't you help me?

2001-08-22 Thread Solver

People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, ".a files for modules"? I
would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not necessarily the
solution for it.
Please reply to it.
Solver




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