[newbie] Zip Drive Problem
I just upgraded from 7.0 to 7.2 and am having problems getting zccess to my external Zip drive. If I try to access through the dektop icon, I get the message, "Unable to enter File:/mnt/zip. You do not have access rights to this location." If I try as root with Konqueror, I get, "Could not enter directory /mnt/zip" Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Re(2): [newbie] ZIp drive problem
On 12/05/00, at 11:40, Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >Kirkmy guess would be that you have supermount enabled and >supermount desktop icons don't have this option. ^ It must have been something like that... I deleted the desktop icons, and made new kdelink files and it works now. thanks, Kirk vice versa Translations - French to English, English to French | Technical Writing Traductions francais-anglais, anglais-francais | Redaction technique . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.mcelhearn.com Kirk McElhearn | Chemin de la Lauze | 05600 Guillestre | France
Re: [newbie] ZIp drive problem
Kirkmy guess would be that you have supermount enabled and supermount desktop icons don't have this option. Alan Kirk McElhearn wrote: > > I had to reinstall my Mandrake system. Before, I could unmount my Zip > drive by right-clicking and selecting Unmount. This option is no longer > there. How do I get it back? > > Kirk > > vice versa > Translations - French to English, English to French | Technical Writing > Traductions francais-anglais, anglais-francais | Redaction technique > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.mcelhearn.com > Kirk McElhearn | Chemin de la Lauze | 05600 Guillestre | France
[newbie] ZIp drive problem
I had to reinstall my Mandrake system. Before, I could unmount my Zip drive by right-clicking and selecting Unmount. This option is no longer there. How do I get it back? Kirk vice versa Translations - French to English, English to French | Technical Writing Traductions francais-anglais, anglais-francais | Redaction technique . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.mcelhearn.com Kirk McElhearn | Chemin de la Lauze | 05600 Guillestre | France
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
"G. Eric Morgan" wrote: > > Thanks for answering! I have tried 2 or 3 disks already tho... I did try an > experiement tho. I did the ole lpr textfile.txt and low and behold my > printer fired up. I have no idea how to tell what has been compiled into > the kernel but I suspect that the parallel printer support has been in the > default Mandrake 7. > > When I try rmmod lp I get it is not installed. Is this correct? Does this > mean it must be compiled in statically? I see at boot up the lpd being > started and stopped at shutdown. but I cannot find anywhere where it is > loaded as a module and I cannot remove it either. > > Does this mean anything to anyone? > > Thanks, > Eric > > - Original Message - > From: "Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:44 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] zip drive problem > > > "G. Eric Morgan" wrote: > > > > > > I too have the exact same problem with BOTH Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.0. > > > sda4 is not a valid block device. Here is my dmesg file where the > > > parport_pc and ppa is loaded at the end. btw the other SCSI I have is > the > > > emulation for the CDburner which I have not yet wrestled with... > > > > > > Linux version 2.2.14-15mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version > > > 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Tue Jan 4 22:24:20 > > > snip > > > > > > parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2,EPP] > > > ppa: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x) > > > ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 32 bit > > > ppa: Communication established with ID 6 using EPP 32 bit > > > scsi1 : Iomega VPI0 (ppa) interface > > > scsi : 2 hosts. > > > Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: D.09 > > > Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > > Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 > > > SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 > GB] > > > sda: Write Protect is off > > > sda:SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code = > 2701 > > > scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 > > > unable to read partition table > > > > > > > > > I think if you put a different disk in (during bootup) your "Unable to > > read partition etc." might go away. > > > > Do: fdisk -l /dev/sda (With a disk in the drive) It should list the partition table on the disk. If this doesn't work: I don't have printing set up (Don't need it very often) but I think if you do ps aux you might see the printer daemon and be able to kill the process long enough to test. If it works you can always track down the startup for it and remove it. Startup scripts are in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d (console mode) or /etc/rc.d/rc5.d (Start in X)
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Had the same problem but 'modprobe ppa' worked...mounted zip from console with " mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/zipdos" (Had to create empty mount point directory zipdos in /mnt and had to have a dos formatted zip disk in the drive Iomega uses partition 4 [sda4] as default in their preformatted dos disks.)...Works fine. Then added entry to fstab. Added kdelnk to zip drive on desktop and can access the zip with a click of the mouse. Hope this helps Tom T "G. Eric Morgan" wrote: > I too have the exact same problem with BOTH Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.0. > sda4 is not a valid block device. Here is my dmesg file where the > parport_pc and ppa is loaded at the end. btw the other SCSI I have is the > emulation for the CDburner which I have not yet wrestled with... > > Linux version 2.2.14-15mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version > 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Tue Jan 4 22:24:20 > snip > > parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2,EPP] > ppa: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x) > ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 32 bit > ppa: Communication established with ID 6 using EPP 32 bit > scsi1 : Iomega VPI0 (ppa) interface > scsi : 2 hosts. > Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: D.09 > Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 > SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 GB] > sda: Write Protect is off > sda:SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code = 2701 > scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 > unable to read partition table > > - Original Message - > From: "Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 1:46 PM > Subject: Re: [newbie] zip drive problem > > > Mani Abreu wrote: > > > > > Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: > > > mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device > > > (maybe 'insmod driver'?) > > > > > > I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers > for > > > the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the > > > order around? > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. > > > > > > > > > Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": > > > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or > resource > > > > busy > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. > > > > > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what worked for me: > > > > > > > > > > > > As su in a terminal window: > > > > > > > > > > > > mkdir /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > > > insmod parport > > > > > > > > > > > > insmod ppa > > > > > > > > > > > > mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > > > make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos > /dev/sda4 > > > > /mnt/zip > > > > > > to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again > when you > > > > > > insert another disk. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this > problem > > and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a > Mandrake > > 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on > it. > > Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the > commands > > listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any > modules > > and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 > came from > > Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port > using > > service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. > > > > Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on > Mandrake > > 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give > out with > > the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think > might > > help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it > working. > >
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
"G. Eric Morgan" wrote: > > I too have the exact same problem with BOTH Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.0. > sda4 is not a valid block device. Here is my dmesg file where the > parport_pc and ppa is loaded at the end. btw the other SCSI I have is the > emulation for the CDburner which I have not yet wrestled with... > > Linux version 2.2.14-15mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version > 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Tue Jan 4 22:24:20 > snip > > parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2,EPP] > ppa: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x) > ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 32 bit > ppa: Communication established with ID 6 using EPP 32 bit > scsi1 : Iomega VPI0 (ppa) interface > scsi : 2 hosts. > Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: D.09 > Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 > SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 GB] > sda: Write Protect is off > sda:SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code = 2701 > scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 > unable to read partition table > I think if you put a different disk in (during bootup) your "Unable to read partition etc." might go away.
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
I too have the exact same problem with BOTH Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.0. sda4 is not a valid block device. Here is my dmesg file where the parport_pc and ppa is loaded at the end. btw the other SCSI I have is the emulation for the CDburner which I have not yet wrestled with... Linux version 2.2.14-15mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Tue Jan 4 22:24:20 snip parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2,EPP] ppa: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x) ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 32 bit ppa: Communication established with ID 6 using EPP 32 bit scsi1 : Iomega VPI0 (ppa) interface scsi : 2 hosts. Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: D.09 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 GB] sda: Write Protect is off sda:SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code = 2701 scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 unable to read partition table - Original Message - From: "Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] zip drive problem > Mani Abreu wrote: > > > Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: > > mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device > > (maybe 'insmod driver'?) > > > > I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for > > the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the > > order around? > > > > Mani > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. > > > > > > > Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": > > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource > > > busy > > > > > > > > Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. > > > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This is what worked for me: > > > > > > > > > > As su in a terminal window: > > > > > > > > > > mkdir /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > insmod parport > > > > > > > > > > insmod ppa > > > > > > > > > > mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 > > > /mnt/zip > > > > > to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you > > > > > insert another disk. > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem > and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake > 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. > Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands > listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules > and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from > Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using > service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. > > Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake > 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with > the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might > help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working. >
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: I am using the parrallel Zip Drive under Mandrake 7. Works just like it's supposed to, by doing: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip And to eject/insert another disk: umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip Ed > Bruce Hilliker wrote: > > > > Jon wrote: > > > > > Mani Abreu wrote: > > > > > > > Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: > > > > mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device > > > > (maybe 'insmod driver'?) > > > > > > > > I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for > > > > the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the > > > > order around? > > > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": > > > > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource > > > > > busy > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what worked for me: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As su in a terminal window: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mkdir /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > insmod parport > > > > > > > > > > > > > > insmod ppa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 > > > > > /mnt/zip > > > > > > > to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you > > > > > > > insert another disk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this >problem > > > and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake > > > 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. > > > Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands > > > listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules > > > and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from > > > Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using > > > service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. > > > > > > Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake > > > 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out >with > > > the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might > > > help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working. > > > > I don't really know if this will help; but check out the attached "text" file. I > > come from > > the Linux Gazette. > > > > Bruce :-) > > > > > > Zip Drive Mini-HOWTO > > Kyle Dansie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > v2.4, 10 January 1999 > > > > This Document provides a quick reference quide on setting up and using > > the Iomega ZIP drive with Linux. > > __ > > > > Table of Contents > > > > 1. Introduction > > ---SNIP---SNIP--Cut for > brevity---SNIP > > Thanks Bruce, Pretty sure that the same version of the howto that I > own... > > My point here was to see if anyone has a working parallel port zip under > either ManDrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1 as I have both running and neither > can use the drive, yet my Slackware can. I see MANY post in this group > asking how to do it yet none saying that they DID it. I have owned the > drive for some time and used it in many different distros of linux. > Since RedHat and Mandrake hope to be the next Windoze style OS (Nobody > choke on that, you know it's true) this particular thing should work > with a minimum of hassle. PPA ZIP drives have been working in linux for > a long time. > > And since I am on the soapbox: > > linuxconf > > is a great program but, it takes it's lesson from M$ and hides > everything it does behind the scenes. How will the average joe learn to > do admin stuff if he never see's where and what changes were made? > Linuxconf NEEDS a "show me everthing" mode. Are you listening RedHat?
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Yeah, I tried the mini-HOWTO for the zip drive a couple of months ago when I was trying to get my parallel port zip going, and I found that the mini-HOWTO is OUTDATED. I spent several days trying to do exactly what it said, trying to recompile the kernel, reinstalling the whole system (mdk 6.1)...over and over and over. Then the tip came from this forum that it's no longer 'insmod' but now 'modprobe'. Then the tip came, just do 'modprobe ppa', stick in a disk and mount it, so I tried it and it worked! All that time, all that frustration, and it could have been so simple! The problem these guys all seem to be writing about appears TO ME to have more to do with Mdk 7 than anything else. A bug? Another change of some sort? Who knows? Seems like Jon demonstrated this by getting his old zip out and trying it with mdk7 -- works for him under the older versions, but not under 7 ... hmmm ... what's the difference between the earlier versions and mdk7? This seems to be the question. So, anyone out there have the answer? Anyone have a parallel port zip running w/mdk7? If you do, seems like there's a lot of people needing your help! Lance Bruce Hilliker wrote: > > Jon wrote: > > > Mani Abreu wrote: > > > > > Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: > > > mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device > > > (maybe 'insmod driver'?) > > > > > > I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for > > > the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the > > > order around? > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. > > > > > > > > > Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": > > > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource > > > > busy > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. > > > > > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what worked for me: > > > > > > > > > > > > As su in a terminal window: > > > > > > > > > > > > mkdir /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > > > insmod parport > > > > > > > > > > > > insmod ppa > > > > > > > > > > > > mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > > > make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 > > > > /mnt/zip > > > > > > to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you > > > > > > insert another disk. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem > > and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake > > 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. > > Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands > > listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules > > and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from > > Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using > > service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. > > > > Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake > > 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with > > the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might > > help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working. > > I don't really know if this will help; but check out the attached "text" file. I > come from > the Linux Gazette. > > Bruce :-) > > > Zip Drive Mini-HOWTO > Kyle Dansie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > v2.4, 10 January 1999 > > This Document provides a quick reference quide on setting up and using > the Iomega ZIP drive with Linux. > __ > ...[snip]...
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Bruce Hilliker wrote: > > Jon wrote: > > > Mani Abreu wrote: > > > > > Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: > > > mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device > > > (maybe 'insmod driver'?) > > > > > > I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for > > > the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the > > > order around? > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. > > > > > > > > > Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": > > > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource > > > > busy > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. > > > > > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what worked for me: > > > > > > > > > > > > As su in a terminal window: > > > > > > > > > > > > mkdir /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > > > insmod parport > > > > > > > > > > > > insmod ppa > > > > > > > > > > > > mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > > > make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 > > > > /mnt/zip > > > > > > to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you > > > > > > insert another disk. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem > > and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake > > 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. > > Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands > > listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules > > and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from > > Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using > > service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. > > > > Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake > > 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with > > the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might > > help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working. > > I don't really know if this will help; but check out the attached "text" file. I > come from > the Linux Gazette. > > Bruce :-) > > > Zip Drive Mini-HOWTO > Kyle Dansie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > v2.4, 10 January 1999 > > This Document provides a quick reference quide on setting up and using > the Iomega ZIP drive with Linux. > __ > > Table of Contents > > 1. Introduction ---SNIP---SNIP--Cut for brevity---SNIP Thanks Bruce, Pretty sure that the same version of the howto that I own... My point here was to see if anyone has a working parallel port zip under either ManDrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1 as I have both running and neither can use the drive, yet my Slackware can. I see MANY post in this group asking how to do it yet none saying that they DID it. I have owned the drive for some time and used it in many different distros of linux. Since RedHat and Mandrake hope to be the next Windoze style OS (Nobody choke on that, you know it's true) this particular thing should work with a minimum of hassle. PPA ZIP drives have been working in linux for a long time. And since I am on the soapbox: linuxconf is a great program but, it takes it's lesson from M$ and hides everything it does behind the scenes. How will the average joe learn to do admin stuff if he never see's where and what changes were made? Linuxconf NEEDS a "show me everthing" mode. Are you listening RedHat?
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Jon wrote: > Mani Abreu wrote: > > > Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: > > mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device > > (maybe 'insmod driver'?) > > > > I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for > > the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the > > order around? > > > > Mani > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. > > > > > > > Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": > > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource > > > busy > > > > > > > > Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. > > > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This is what worked for me: > > > > > > > > > > As su in a terminal window: > > > > > > > > > > mkdir /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > insmod parport > > > > > > > > > > insmod ppa > > > > > > > > > > mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > > > make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 > > > /mnt/zip > > > > > to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you > > > > > insert another disk. > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem > and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake > 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. > Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands > listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules > and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from > Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using > service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. > > Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake > 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with > the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might > help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working. I don't really know if this will help; but check out the attached "text" file. I come from the Linux Gazette. Bruce :-) Zip Drive Mini-HOWTO Kyle Dansie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] v2.4, 10 January 1999 This Document provides a quick reference quide on setting up and using the Iomega ZIP drive with Linux. __ Table of Contents 1. Introduction 1.1 Home of this document 2. Quick Start 3. Configuring a kernel for the ZIP drive 3.1 SCSI version 4. The ZIP drive 4.1 Parallel port version Zip100 4.2 SCSI external version 4.2.1 The ZIP ZOOM host adapter 4.3 The SCSI Internal version 4.4 The ZIP Plus - IMM driver 4.5 ATAPI version 4.6 IDE version 4.7 USB version 4.8 ZIP250 version 5. Using the ZIP drive 5.1 Fdisk, mke2fs, mount, etc. 5.2 An existing DOS formatted disk 5.3 Re-format as a native Linux disk 5.4 fstab entries 5.5 The ZIP Tools disk 6. Performance 7. Frequently asked questions 7.1 Can I plug a printer into the parallel ZIP drive ? 7.2 Do you plan to support EPP/ECP ports in PPA ? 7.3 Can I run Linux from a ZIP drive ? 7.4 Can I boot from the ZIP drive ? 7.5 Why does Iomega use partition number 4 ? 7.6 How can I have the disk mounted at boot time ? 7.7 What happens if there is no disk inserted when I boot ? 7.8 Can I use the parallel drive as a real SCSI disk ? 7.9 Can PPA be used with Iomega's parallel port tape drives ? 7.10 Will PPA work with the parallel port SyQuest EZ135 ? 8. Getting more current information __ 1. Introduction The Iomega ZIP drive is a popular, removable media disk drive. It is avaliable in several versions. · Parallel Port · SCSI · IDE - ATAPI · Plus The most popular seems to be the Parallel port version. It has been around a long time and it is low cost. The SCSI version has also been around for a while but it needs a scsi card that many people do not have already, so it it not quite as popular. The ATAPI version now seems to be more available. The Plus is the newer version of the ZIP drive. It has the capability to detect what port its plugged into, scsi or parallel. This document will focus on the Parallel port version, but also offer some tips for other versions. This document incorporates information collected and published by others, in particular: · Grant Guenther, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
FYI, I am a new Mandrake user and when I installed Mandrake 7.0 Complete late last night, it failed to install my SCSI Zip drive. There was a choice explicitly for it during the graphical install, but it failed. I then thought that I just need to install my SCSI card (for which there was an entry that matched the listing I got from Windows Control Panel System Properties), but that also failed using the graphical install, but it did at least offer to let me try sending parameters into the command, but since I was clueless about what parameters I needed to send, that didn't help. My Zip problem may be entirely different than your Zip problem, but thought I would mention it. If anyone knows how to get a SCSI (ISA card) Zip to install, I would like to know how! Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: "Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] zip drive problem > Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem > and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake > 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. > Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands > listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules > and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from > Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using > service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. > > Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake > 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with > the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might > help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working.
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Mani Abreu wrote: > Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: > mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device > (maybe 'insmod driver'?) > > I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for > the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the > order around? > > Mani > > forstfed wrote: > > > On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: > > > > Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. > > > > > Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource > > busy > > > > > > Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. > > > > > > Mani > > > > > > > > > forstfed wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > This is what worked for me: > > > > > > > > As su in a terminal window: > > > > > > > > mkdir /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > insmod parport > > > > > > > > insmod ppa > > > > > > > > mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > > > > > > > > make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 > > /mnt/zip > > > > to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you > > > > insert another disk. > > > > > > > > Ed Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working.
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. Mani forstfed wrote: > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: > > This is what worked for me: > > As su in a terminal window: > > mkdir /mnt/zip > > insmod parport > > insmod ppa > > mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > > make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you > insert another disk. > > Ed > > > Jon wrote: > > > > > Idris S Hamid wrote: > > > > > > > I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in > > > > Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: > > > > > > > > # modprobe ppa > > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or > > > > resource busyparport: Device or resource busy > > > > > > > > modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so > > > > modpobe ppa should be correct). > > > > > > > > I added the following line to /etc/fstab: > > > > /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 > > > > > > > > Please advise, thanks a lot! > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > Idris > > > > > > Do you have an IDE zip or a parallel port drive? > > > > > > ppa stands for parallel port adapter > > > > > > Yet you have your fstab set for an IDE zip drive... > > > > Since I have the same problem trying to get Mandrake 7.0 to recognize my > > > > PARALLEL Zip drive, my question is: So what? Everything I've seen so > > have has been targeted toward those with IDE Zip drives. And yes, I have > > > > tried the suggestions anyway, yet I receive the same message as above. > > Trying /dev/sdx4, or whatever variant, doesn't work because M7.0 > > doesn't recognize the parallel port as a SCSI device, and /dev/hdx4 > > doesn't > > work because it's neither an IDE device, or hard drive. And to add to my > > > > original question (So what?) I ask: So what *is* the answer? Or is there > > > > one? > > > > Mani
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy forstfed wrote: > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: > > This is what worked for me: > > As su in a terminal window: > > mkdir /mnt/zip > > insmod parport > > insmod ppa > > mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > > make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip > to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you > insert another disk. > > Ed > > > Jon wrote: > > > > > Idris S Hamid wrote: > > > > > > > I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in > > > > Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: > > > > > > > > # modprobe ppa > > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or > > > > resource busyparport: Device or resource busy > > > > > > > > modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so > > > > modpobe ppa should be correct). > > > > > > > > I added the following line to /etc/fstab: > > > > /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 > > > > > > > > Please advise, thanks a lot! > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > Idris > > > > > > Do you have an IDE zip or a parallel port drive? > > > > > > ppa stands for parallel port adapter > > > > > > Yet you have your fstab set for an IDE zip drive... > > > > Since I have the same problem trying to get Mandrake 7.0 to recognize my > > > > PARALLEL Zip drive, my question is: So what? Everything I've seen so > > have has been targeted toward those with IDE Zip drives. And yes, I have > > > > tried the suggestions anyway, yet I receive the same message as above. > > Trying /dev/sdx4, or whatever variant, doesn't work because M7.0 > > doesn't recognize the parallel port as a SCSI device, and /dev/hdx4 > > doesn't > > work because it's neither an IDE device, or hard drive. And to add to my > > > > original question (So what?) I ask: So what *is* the answer? Or is there > > > > one? > > > > Mani
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is what worked for me: As su in a terminal window: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you insert another disk. Ed > Jon wrote: > > > Idris S Hamid wrote: > > > > > I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in > > > Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: > > > > > > # modprobe ppa > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or > > > resource busyparport: Device or resource busy > > > > > > modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so > > > modpobe ppa should be correct). > > > > > > I added the following line to /etc/fstab: > > > /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 > > > > > > Please advise, thanks a lot! > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Idris > > > > Do you have an IDE zip or a parallel port drive? > > > > ppa stands for parallel port adapter > > > > Yet you have your fstab set for an IDE zip drive... > > Since I have the same problem trying to get Mandrake 7.0 to recognize my > > PARALLEL Zip drive, my question is: So what? Everything I've seen so > have has been targeted toward those with IDE Zip drives. And yes, I have > > tried the suggestions anyway, yet I receive the same message as above. > Trying /dev/sdx4, or whatever variant, doesn't work because M7.0 > doesn't recognize the parallel port as a SCSI device, and /dev/hdx4 > doesn't > work because it's neither an IDE device, or hard drive. And to add to my > > original question (So what?) I ask: So what *is* the answer? Or is there > > one? > > Mani
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Mani Abreu wrote: > > Jon wrote: > > > Idris S Hamid wrote: > > > > > I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in > > > Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: > > > > > > # modprobe ppa > > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or > > > resource busyparport: Device or resource busy > > > > > > modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so > > > modpobe ppa should be correct). > > > > > > I added the following line to /etc/fstab: > > > /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 > > > > > > Please advise, thanks a lot! > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Idris > > > > Do you have an IDE zip or a parallel port drive? > > > > ppa stands for parallel port adapter > > > > Yet you have your fstab set for an IDE zip drive... > > Since I have the same problem trying to get Mandrake 7.0 to recognize my > > PARALLEL Zip drive, my question is: So what? Everything I've seen so > have has been targeted toward those with IDE Zip drives. And yes, I have > > tried the suggestions anyway, yet I receive the same message as above. > Trying /dev/sdx4, or whatever variant, doesn't work because M7.0 > doesn't recognize the parallel port as a SCSI device, and /dev/hdx4 > doesn't > work because it's neither an IDE device, or hard drive. And to add to my > > original question (So what?) I ask: So what *is* the answer? Or is there > > one? > > Mani Try this mini howto. It includes info on parallel port zip drives. http://www.linux.org/help/ldp/mini/ZIP-Drive.html -- Very funny Scotty. Now beam up my clothes.
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Hey Y'all, I'm running mdk 6.1 with an external zip100, and for me the fstab entry is not hdd, but 'sda4' and instead of vfat it has 'auto'. This works perfectly for me. Not sure if it's different in mdk 7 or if that's really more of an arbitrary name, but if you haven't tried it yet, might give it a shot? Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have not gotten my External Parallel Port ZIP Drive to work yet either. > Will advise you though in your addition to 'fstab' file: > > /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 > ^ > error > /dev/hdb > > if your ZIP is an internal external I am not too sure. The "hdd" is > telling your system it is the 3rd Hard Drive or in Windows 'D' drive. In > Linux your floppy drive is not in the same category as the HD's, in Linux > it is Identified as 'fpx' (x=1,2,3,4 a digit). Your first HD is 'a', > second HD is 'b', third HD is 'c', etcetera. Most newer systems can > handle up to 4 HD's with out having to use an additional Controller. I > am sure most of you are aware of this, I just want to show I do know > somthing, even though it may not be of much help. > > don > I thought I knew that I knew what I thought > But now I know that what I thought I knew > Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:04:39 -0500 (EST) Idris S Hamid > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in > > Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: > > > > # modprobe ppa > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or > > resource busyparport: Device or resource busy > > > > modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so > > modpobe ppa should be correct). > > > > I added the following line to /etc/fstab: > > /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 > > > > Please advise, thanks a lot! > > > > Best wishes > > Idris > > > > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Jon wrote: > Idris S Hamid wrote: > > > I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in > > Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: > > > > # modprobe ppa > > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or > > resource busyparport: Device or resource busy > > > > modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so > > modpobe ppa should be correct). > > > > I added the following line to /etc/fstab: > > /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 > > > > Please advise, thanks a lot! > > > > Best wishes > > Idris > > Do you have an IDE zip or a parallel port drive? > > ppa stands for parallel port adapter > > Yet you have your fstab set for an IDE zip drive... Since I have the same problem trying to get Mandrake 7.0 to recognize my PARALLEL Zip drive, my question is: So what? Everything I've seen so have has been targeted toward those with IDE Zip drives. And yes, I have tried the suggestions anyway, yet I receive the same message as above. Trying /dev/sdx4, or whatever variant, doesn't work because M7.0 doesn't recognize the parallel port as a SCSI device, and /dev/hdx4 doesn't work because it's neither an IDE device, or hard drive. And to add to my original question (So what?) I ask: So what *is* the answer? Or is there one? Mani
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
I have not gotten my External Parallel Port ZIP Drive to work yet either. Will advise you though in your addition to 'fstab' file: /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 ^ error /dev/hdb if your ZIP is an internal external I am not too sure. The "hdd" is telling your system it is the 3rd Hard Drive or in Windows 'D' drive. In Linux your floppy drive is not in the same category as the HD's, in Linux it is Identified as 'fpx' (x=1,2,3,4 a digit). Your first HD is 'a', second HD is 'b', third HD is 'c', etcetera. Most newer systems can handle up to 4 HD's with out having to use an additional Controller. I am sure most of you are aware of this, I just want to show I do know somthing, even though it may not be of much help. don I thought I knew that I knew what I thought But now I know that what I thought I knew Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:04:39 -0500 (EST) Idris S Hamid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in > Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: > > # modprobe ppa > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or > resource busyparport: Device or resource busy > > modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so > modpobe ppa should be correct). > > I added the following line to /etc/fstab: > /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 > > Please advise, thanks a lot! > > Best wishes > Idris > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
[newbie] zip drive problem
I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: # modprobe ppa /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busyparport: Device or resource busy modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so modpobe ppa should be correct). I added the following line to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 Please advise, thanks a lot! Best wishes Idris
