Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II

2001-01-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall

goldenpi wrote:

> Should do, but they dont. heres what you do:

As with so many things! ;-)

> 1. remove all mounting for the zip drive. Everything.
> 2. now its not mounting. You must mount it manually.
> 3. just use the mount and umount commands to use the disk.
> 
> thats "mount /dev/hdbx /mnt/zip", replaceing the x with either 1 or 4 depending
> on cartridge. When you done just "umount /mnt/zip" to unmount and eject the
> disk.

I'm going to print your reply out, so when/if I need it I can use it. However,
I'm not going to do it now. Why not? Well...I don't have enough contact and/or
demand from Windoze users to have to change my current setup (which works just
fine for all my Zip carts). Its too easy now, just to click on my Zip icon,
have it mount itself, and access the drive auto-magically. ;-)

> and a warning. If the disk gets stuck and the eject button fails then try
> unmounting it.

Yep, had that happen on the odd occasion. Same thing with the CD-ROM. The
following commands work nicely in this situation:

umount /dev/cdrom
eject /dev/cdrom
eject -t /dev/cdrom (just to show off, closing the tray back!) ;-)

umount /dev/zip
eject /dev/zip

Thanks for all your advice!



 
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Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II

2001-01-06 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Goldenpi wrote:
> 
> Easy. The problem is that factory formated carts are formated on partition
> 4. user-formated carts are formated on partition 1. Supermount does not like
> this. You will just have to mount them manually.

Um, small problem. I'm not using Supermount. Here is the relevant line
concerning my Zip drive in /etc/fstab:

/dev/hdb4   /mnt/zipautouser,noauto 0 0

It will auto-read ext2 or vfat Zip carts. Just won't read partitions set to
anything other than 4. 

Whats the command to format a Zip cart and make it partition 4 at the same
time? Since factory Zip carts come preformatted this way, shouldn't everyone be
doing the same for consistency? ;-)

Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II

2001-01-05 Thread Dennis Myers

On Friday 05 January 2001 04:15 pm, you wrote:
> Goldenpi wrote:
> > They are both scsi. You have to mount them as such. its /dev/sd?? for
> > scsi stuff. Zip drives are always on partition 4 (sd?4).
>
> Well, let me make a small comment about that. I know its different, I have
> an internal IDE Zip drive, and I always used 4 as the partition in my
> /etc/fstab line as well. However, I had my 'Nix box at the local county
> Library swapping files with the Lib administrator (a close friend of mine
> who is a Linux admirer as well). If he formatted any Zip cart under Win
> 2000, my setup could not read it. He even booted up into a MS-DOS floppy
> environment, and formatted a Zip cart from there and I still could not read
> it. However, if I change that 4 to a 1...then I can read his formatted
> carts. Then however, I could no longer read my Zip carts (even though they
> came from the factory pre-formatted). So...I thought I'd be creative and
> leave the partition number off from the fstab line. Heh, then it wouldn't
> read *any* Zip carts. 
>
> Anybody out there know why this is, and if there is a remedy? Thanks!
Yes, you might have to do a search, but I've seen info that indicates you 
have to use one or the other of 1 or 4 and vfat or efs2 can't do both at the 
same time. I think I saw this in the HOWTO's. 
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Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II

2001-01-05 Thread Carl Lafferty

->my Zip carts (even though they came from the factory pre-formatted). So...I
->thought I'd be creative and leave the partition number off from the fstab line.
->Heh, then it wouldn't read *any* Zip carts. 
->
If it helps I was the system admin at the local library and saw with my
own eyes.   I, of course, have zip drive problems of my own that no one 
has been able to comment on (ron posted them for me before I joined the
mailing list)

Needless to say, if it can be screwed up, I will succeed in doing it:)



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Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II

2001-01-05 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Goldenpi wrote:

> They are both scsi. You have to mount them as such. its /dev/sd?? for scsi
> stuff. Zip drives are always on partition 4 (sd?4).

Well, let me make a small comment about that. I know its different, I have an
internal IDE Zip drive, and I always used 4 as the partition in my /etc/fstab
line as well. However, I had my 'Nix box at the local county Library swapping
files with the Lib administrator (a close friend of mine who is a Linux admirer
as well). If he formatted any Zip cart under Win 2000, my setup could not read
it. He even booted up into a MS-DOS floppy environment, and formatted a Zip
cart from there and I still could not read it. However, if I change that 4 to a
1...then I can read his formatted carts. Then however, I could no longer read
my Zip carts (even though they came from the factory pre-formatted). So...I
thought I'd be creative and leave the partition number off from the fstab line.
Heh, then it wouldn't read *any* Zip carts. 

Anybody out there know why this is, and if there is a remedy? Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II

2001-01-05 Thread Goldenpi


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Subject: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II


> >I had to set up my zip 100 drive after 7.2 install to be able to mount
and
> >umount at will. I followed the guide at
> >http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/mountzip.html I
used
> >the part added by jim C.  Hope this helps.
>
> Tried all the advie, but none of it helped. Both my /mnt/zip and
> /mnt/cdrom2 (my cd-rw that also won't work) are "locked" directories.
>
> How do I "unlock" these pesky *%$#@...?
> Mike Riffle

They are both scsi. You have to mount them as such. its /dev/sd?? for scsi
stuff. Zip drives are always on partition 4 (sd?4).

This is a good chance to laugh at m$ outlook express email-address
regognition feature.

>
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[newbie] Zip Drive, Part II

2001-01-03 Thread kneiper

>I had to set up my zip 100 drive after 7.2 install to be able to mount and 
>umount at will. I followed the guide at
>http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/mountzip.html I used 
>the part added by jim C.  Hope this helps.

Tried all the advie, but none of it helped. Both my /mnt/zip and
/mnt/cdrom2 (my cd-rw that also won't work) are "locked" directories.

How do I "unlock" these pesky *%$#@...?
Mike Riffle

Morgantown, WV USA
http://web.mountain.net/~kneiper/rifrak.htm
Montani Semper Liberi
NRA   NMLRA   Friends of Fort Frederick
Prickett's Fort Memorial Foundation