Re: [newbie] a big duh

2001-08-03 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:20:32 -0400
"Judith Miner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was inspired to comment:

> Sridhar wrote:
> >> KMail is incapable of sending HTML mail, but it can read it. <<
> 
> Bless its heart! That's how *all* e-mail programs should work, in my
> not-so-humble opinion. Even better, they'd give you an option to convert
> all HTML e-mails you receive into plain text and free us from the
> accursed stuff forever.
>  --Judy Miner

You can try Sylpheed at http://sylpheed.good-day.net
It's at 0.5.2 and VERY stable.  It allows not only miltiple POP accounts,
but will send through multiple SMTP servers as well (not sure Kmail can do
that yet)  Filtering works great.
Mike

-- 
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it
helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons,
but at the very least you need a beer."
- Frank Zappa


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[newbie] Re: newbie (a big duh)

2001-08-01 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:10:38 +1200
skinky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

> Hi all
> 
> I had the same problem.  I was also using Gnome apps in KDE and vice
> versa, but after a few days Gnome did the big crash thing which
> completely locked up my system (had to use the dreaded reset button). 
> Because I'm a sucker for punishment, I went back into Gnome a few more
> times with the same result each time.  I'm not sure what caused it
> because I had also tried out Enlightenment and a few others.  So I've
> just uninstalled and reintalled LM8 and haven't been brave enough to try
> Gnome again or run the Gnome apps in KDE.
> 
> Can someone please advise whether or not its OK to use Gnome apps in
> KDE.
=
I run both KDE and Gnome apps in Blackbox (home) and Windowmaker (at
work).  I've never had a problem.  while there may be some exceptions (I'm
sure there must be ;-) )I am not familiar with, you shouldn't have a
problem running most Gnome apps in KDE.
Mike


-- 
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it
helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons,
but at the very least you need a beer."
- Frank Zappa


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Re: [newbie] a big duh

2001-08-01 Thread Charles A. Punch


I think it is Nautilus that causes the problem, not GNOME, or at least 
not running GNOME progs in KDE. I have been using gnome cal and gnumeric 
with no problems (from KDE). I still haven't resolved the problems in 
GNOME itself, but I don't think it is running GNOME progs in KDE that 
causes the problems.


ShalomOut
   Chal

Elder PCUSA
Registered Linux user # 217118
skinky wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> I had the same problem.  I was also using Gnome apps in KDE and vice versa, but 
>after a few days Gnome did the big crash thing which completely locked up my system 
>(had to use the dreaded reset button).  Because I'm a sucker for punishment, I went 
>back into Gnome a few more times with the same result each time.  I'm not sure what 
>caused it because I had also tried out Enlightenment and a few others.  So I've just 
>uninstalled and reintalled LM8 and haven't been brave enough to try Gnome again or 
>run the Gnome apps in KDE.
> 
> Can someone please advise whether or not its OK to use Gnome apps in KDE.
> 
> Cheers
> skinky
> 
> PS.  Sorry if the font is italicised - having just got my new external serial modem 
>(YAY!!  No more booting back into Windows every 10 mins  :-))  I'm trying out KMail 
>and can't seem to get the font thing sorted for replying/composing.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 01 August 2001 22:05, you wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:19, Charles A. Punch wrote:
>> 
>>> nkey wrote:
>>> 
 im just now beginning to run GNOME (was using KDE) and id like to
 change the color of my fonts on my desktop but cannot find an
 option anywhere to let me change this!
 
 GACK!
 
 is it possible to do so?
 thanks!
 
 im using Sawfish and also letting Nautilus draw my desktop. so im
 not sure whats up. if i turn off that nautilus feature, my text
 goes from white ot black, but i cant seem to get any other text
 colors on my desktop.
 
 luke
>>> 
>>> I have been using mainly KDE, but every once in a while I try
>>> GNOME. It seems that I always get a kind of bleed through effect.
>>> Sometimes when I am in KDE the desktop icons from GNOME will bleed
>>> through and vice versa. I do use GNOME programs in KDE and vice
>>> versa. I am wondering if this has anything to do with it. It
>>> doesn't seem to crash anything but is mostly annoying. The really
>>> strange thing is that I don't use any desktop icons except "Trash."
>>> The first thing I do after an install is get rid of them. I have
>>> had these kind of problems in several versions of Mandrake and I
>>> always wind up going back to KDE, because the problems seem to go
>>> away  after awhile,. if I just use KDE. If I continue to use GNOME,
>>> it seems that it gets worse . I can't seem to get the settings in
>>> GNOME to stay where I set them. They keep changing back to the
>>> defaults.  Last week I ran Netscape in GNOME and it changed (spell
>>> checked perhaps?) my address in my mail settings and changed the
>>> number (0) to the letter (o). as a result anyone who replied to my
>>> mail would get a return. It also sent some of my mail with blank
>>> body text. (the subject line was all that was readable). I think
>>> GNOME has possibilities and it seems to be less and less buggy with
>>> each new release, but I have to go with KDE for now. Sorry I don't
>>> have any answers, but sometimes listing the problems helps in
>>> running down the solution.
>> 
>> That's really odd. I've been using GNOME as my primary desktop for
>> almost two years, and I've never had any problems like these. For
>> your desktop icon problems, what apps cause this? I know that if you
>> run Nautilus without the --no-desktop tag, or GMC without the
>> --nodesktop tag, they will try to manage your desktop.
> 






Re: [newbie] a big duh

2001-08-01 Thread skinky

Hi all

I had the same problem.  I was also using Gnome apps in KDE and vice 
versa, but after a few days Gnome did the big crash thing which 
completely locked up my system (had to use the dreaded reset button).  
Because I'm a sucker for punishment, I went back into Gnome a few more 
times with the same result each time.  I'm not sure what caused it 
because I had also tried out Enlightenment and a few others.  So I've 
just uninstalled and reintalled LM8 and haven't been brave enough to 
try Gnome again or run the Gnome apps in KDE.

Can someone please advise whether or not its OK to use Gnome apps in 
KDE.

Cheers
skinky

PS.  Sorry if the font is italicised - having just got my new external 
serial modem (YAY!!  No more booting back into Windows every 10 mins  
:-))  I'm trying out KMail and can't seem to get the font thing sorted 
for replying/composing.



On Wednesday 01 August 2001 22:05, you wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:19, Charles A. Punch wrote:
> > nkey wrote:
> > > im just now beginning to run GNOME (was using KDE) and id like to
> > > change the color of my fonts on my desktop but cannot find an
> > > option anywhere to let me change this!
> > >
> > > GACK!
> > >
> > > is it possible to do so?
> > > thanks!
> > >
> > > im using Sawfish and also letting Nautilus draw my desktop. so im
> > > not sure whats up. if i turn off that nautilus feature, my text
> > > goes from white ot black, but i cant seem to get any other text
> > > colors on my desktop.
> > >
> > > luke
> >
> > I have been using mainly KDE, but every once in a while I try
> > GNOME. It seems that I always get a kind of bleed through effect.
> > Sometimes when I am in KDE the desktop icons from GNOME will bleed
> > through and vice versa. I do use GNOME programs in KDE and vice
> > versa. I am wondering if this has anything to do with it. It
> > doesn't seem to crash anything but is mostly annoying. The really
> > strange thing is that I don't use any desktop icons except "Trash."
> > The first thing I do after an install is get rid of them. I have
> > had these kind of problems in several versions of Mandrake and I
> > always wind up going back to KDE, because the problems seem to go
> > away  after awhile,. if I just use KDE. If I continue to use GNOME,
> > it seems that it gets worse . I can't seem to get the settings in
> > GNOME to stay where I set them. They keep changing back to the
> > defaults.  Last week I ran Netscape in GNOME and it changed (spell
> > checked perhaps?) my address in my mail settings and changed the
> > number (0) to the letter (o). as a result anyone who replied to my
> > mail would get a return. It also sent some of my mail with blank
> > body text. (the subject line was all that was readable). I think
> > GNOME has possibilities and it seems to be less and less buggy with
> > each new release, but I have to go with KDE for now. Sorry I don't
> > have any answers, but sometimes listing the problems helps in
> > running down the solution.
>
> That's really odd. I've been using GNOME as my primary desktop for
> almost two years, and I've never had any problems like these. For
> your desktop icon problems, what apps cause this? I know that if you
> run Nautilus without the --no-desktop tag, or GMC without the
> --nodesktop tag, they will try to manage your desktop.




Re: [newbie] a big duh

2001-08-01 Thread skinky

Hi all

I had the same problem.  I was also using Gnome apps in KDE and vice versa, but after 
a few days Gnome did the big crash thing which completely locked up my system (had to 
use the dreaded reset button).  Because I'm a sucker for punishment, I went back into 
Gnome a few more times with the same result each time.  I'm not sure what caused it 
because I had also tried out Enlightenment and a few others.  So I've just uninstalled 
and reintalled LM8 and haven't been brave enough to try Gnome again or run the Gnome 
apps in KDE.

Can someone please advise whether or not its OK to use Gnome apps in KDE.

Cheers
skinky

PS.  Sorry if the font is italicised - having just got my new external serial modem 
(YAY!!  No more booting back into Windows every 10 mins  :-))  I'm trying out KMail 
and can't seem to get the font thing sorted for replying/composing.



On Wednesday 01 August 2001 22:05, you wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:19, Charles A. Punch wrote:
> > nkey wrote:
> > > im just now beginning to run GNOME (was using KDE) and id like to
> > > change the color of my fonts on my desktop but cannot find an
> > > option anywhere to let me change this!
> > >
> > > GACK!
> > >
> > > is it possible to do so?
> > > thanks!
> > >
> > > im using Sawfish and also letting Nautilus draw my desktop. so im
> > > not sure whats up. if i turn off that nautilus feature, my text
> > > goes from white ot black, but i cant seem to get any other text
> > > colors on my desktop.
> > >
> > > luke
> >
> > I have been using mainly KDE, but every once in a while I try
> > GNOME. It seems that I always get a kind of bleed through effect.
> > Sometimes when I am in KDE the desktop icons from GNOME will bleed
> > through and vice versa. I do use GNOME programs in KDE and vice
> > versa. I am wondering if this has anything to do with it. It
> > doesn't seem to crash anything but is mostly annoying. The really
> > strange thing is that I don't use any desktop icons except "Trash."
> > The first thing I do after an install is get rid of them. I have
> > had these kind of problems in several versions of Mandrake and I
> > always wind up going back to KDE, because the problems seem to go
> > away  after awhile,. if I just use KDE. If I continue to use GNOME,
> > it seems that it gets worse . I can't seem to get the settings in
> > GNOME to stay where I set them. They keep changing back to the
> > defaults.  Last week I ran Netscape in GNOME and it changed (spell
> > checked perhaps?) my address in my mail settings and changed the
> > number (0) to the letter (o). as a result anyone who replied to my
> > mail would get a return. It also sent some of my mail with blank
> > body text. (the subject line was all that was readable). I think
> > GNOME has possibilities and it seems to be less and less buggy with
> > each new release, but I have to go with KDE for now. Sorry I don't
> > have any answers, but sometimes listing the problems helps in
> > running down the solution.
>
> That's really odd. I've been using GNOME as my primary desktop for
> almost two years, and I've never had any problems like these. For
> your desktop icon problems, what apps cause this? I know that if you
> run Nautilus without the --no-desktop tag, or GMC without the
> --nodesktop tag, they will try to manage your desktop.




Re: [newbie] a big duh

2001-08-01 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:19, Charles A. Punch wrote:
> nkey wrote:
> > im just now beginning to run GNOME (was using KDE) and id like to change
> > the color of my fonts on my desktop but cannot find an option anywhere to
> > let me change this!
> >
> > GACK!
> >
> > is it possible to do so?
> > thanks!
> >
> > im using Sawfish and also letting Nautilus draw my desktop. so im not
> > sure whats up. if i turn off that nautilus feature, my text goes from
> > white ot black, but i cant seem to get any other text colors on my
> > desktop.
> >
> > luke
>
> I have been using mainly KDE, but every once in a while I try GNOME. It
> seems that I always get a kind of bleed through effect. Sometimes when I
> am in KDE the desktop icons from GNOME will bleed through and vice
> versa. I do use GNOME programs in KDE and vice versa. I am wondering if
> this has anything to do with it. It doesn't seem to crash anything but
> is mostly annoying. The really strange thing is that I don't use any
> desktop icons except "Trash." The first thing I do after an install is
> get rid of them. I have had these kind of problems in several versions
> of Mandrake and I always wind up going back to KDE, because the problems
> seem to go away  after awhile,. if I just use KDE. If I continue to use
> GNOME, it seems that it gets worse . I can't seem to get the settings in
> GNOME to stay where I set them. They keep changing back to the
> defaults.  Last week I ran Netscape in GNOME and it changed (spell
> checked perhaps?) my address in my mail settings and changed the number
> (0) to the letter (o). as a result anyone who replied to my mail would
> get a return. It also sent some of my mail with blank body text. (the
> subject line was all that was readable). I think GNOME has possibilities
> and it seems to be less and less buggy with each new release, but I have
> to go with KDE for now. Sorry I don't have any answers, but sometimes
> listing the problems helps in running down the solution.

That's really odd. I've been using GNOME as my primary desktop for almost two 
years, and I've never had any problems like these. For your desktop icon 
problems, what apps cause this? I know that if you run Nautilus without the 
--no-desktop tag, or GMC without the --nodesktop tag, they will try to manage 
your desktop.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson




Re: [newbie] a big duh

2001-07-31 Thread Charles A. Punch

nkey wrote:

> im just now beginning to run GNOME (was using KDE) and id like to change the 
> color of my fonts on my desktop but cannot find an option anywhere to let me 
> change this!
> 
> GACK!
> 
> is it possible to do so?
> thanks!
> 
> im using Sawfish and also letting Nautilus draw my desktop. so im not sure 
> whats up. if i turn off that nautilus feature, my text goes from white ot 
> black, but i cant seem to get any other text colors on my desktop.
> 
> luke

I have been using mainly KDE, but every once in a while I try GNOME. It 
seems that I always get a kind of bleed through effect. Sometimes when I 
am in KDE the desktop icons from GNOME will bleed through and vice 
versa. I do use GNOME programs in KDE and vice versa. I am wondering if 
this has anything to do with it. It doesn't seem to crash anything but 
is mostly annoying. The really strange thing is that I don't use any 
desktop icons except "Trash." The first thing I do after an install is 
get rid of them. I have had these kind of problems in several versions 
of Mandrake and I always wind up going back to KDE, because the problems 
seem to go away  after awhile,. if I just use KDE. If I continue to use 
GNOME, it seems that it gets worse . I can't seem to get the settings in 
GNOME to stay where I set them. They keep changing back to the 
defaults.  Last week I ran Netscape in GNOME and it changed (spell 
checked perhaps?) my address in my mail settings and changed the number 
(0) to the letter (o). as a result anyone who replied to my mail would 
get a return. It also sent some of my mail with blank body text. (the 
subject line was all that was readable). I think GNOME has possibilities 
and it seems to be less and less buggy with each new release, but I have 
to go with KDE for now. Sorry I don't have any answers, but sometimes 
listing the problems helps in running down the solution.

ShalomOut
Chal

Elder PCUSA
Registered Linux user #217118   

> 
> 
> 






[newbie] a big duh

2001-07-25 Thread nkey

im just now beginning to run GNOME (was using KDE) and id like to change the 
color of my fonts on my desktop but cannot find an option anywhere to let me 
change this!

GACK!

is it possible to do so?
thanks!

im using Sawfish and also letting Nautilus draw my desktop. so im not sure 
whats up. if i turn off that nautilus feature, my text goes from white ot 
black, but i cant seem to get any other text colors on my desktop.

luke