Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Monday 03 February 2003 04:30 am, Malcolm Candlish wrote:
> Ronald,
>
> Why not send it to your very nice dear friend Saddam, to see if he can
> offer you a little help. I sure he would be very pleased.

Saddam is not my friend, nor a friend to anyone in the civilized world...

> On the other hand, this really should not have been allowed on this list
> and may reflect on its immaturity.
>
> Malcolm Candlish.

This thread died a deserved death quite some time ago - why are you trying to 
reopen it?

Please don't even reply - because I won't.

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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Frank Mertens]

Oh, I'm sorry. More discipline in the future=)
Or like Schlingensief loved to say: "You have to risk
100 mistakes to find 2 new genius ways to do things right."
  
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 13:14, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Frank Mertens wrote:
> > The United States are about to start a war without of consideration
> > for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are
> > collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please
> > do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the
> > attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've received a
> > list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the United
> > Nations 
> > Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition! 
> > 
> 
> In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent 
> sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and communicating your 
> feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has no balls.
> 
> Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much better chance 
> at least getting heard.
> 
> Mark
> 




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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Mark Weaver]

Dick Mazierski wrote:

Frank Mertens wrote:


The United States are about to start a war without of consideration
for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are
collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please
do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the
attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've 
received a
list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the 
United
Nations 
Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition!

What does this have to do with "Newbie - linux-mandrake"?
If anything was ever off topic - this beats them all


nothing, but trimming is nice. :)

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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Mark Weaver]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lanman,

I interpreted his disparagement to apply to the UN rather than to
us.  Still, clarity is a good thing when insulting randomly and
in a public forum (or amy discourse in any forum, for that matter).


Sorry for any confusion...My intent wasn't to disparage anyone. Not the 
UN and not the US, nor any other caring, viable world power. And 
please...by vialble worold power I mean any nation with a heart beat. 
just wanna make sure I don't leave the door open to mis-interpretation.

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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Mark Weaver]

Todd Slater wrote:

On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:14, Mark Weaver wrote:


In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent 
sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and communicating your 
feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has no balls.

Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much better chance 
at least getting heard.

Mark



You think the US legislative branch has balls? Maybe one or two members.
Most are corporate whores.

Todd


When it suits them, yes... please see my reponse to Lanman. I sort of 
mispoke myself. it was rather early in the morning and blood-level in my 
coffee stream was way out of balance.

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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Mark Weaver]

Lanman wrote:

Mark; Could you take a moment to define your use of the word "Balls"?
I'm hoping that your intended use of the word was in reference to the
fact that this list is not a political group, and therefore is probably
unable to effect a change in the foreign policies of the United States
where war is the outcome, rather than implying that this group or
members thereof have no will or courage of their own?

A clarification would probably go a long way to minimizing the list of
replies that your post would otherwise generate!

Lanman  

Hi Lanman,

Actually just after hitting the send button, (it was rather early in the 
morning and had just gotten my first cup of coffee for the morning) I 
realized that I could have worded it differently. What I really meant to 
say is that as far as the UN is concerned they and the current US 
administration aren't exactly on the best of terms at the moment. So, 
anything coming directly from the UN isn't going to carry anywhere near 
the amount of passion and volume was it would coming from "people" both 
in and outside the US. Which is why I suggested they make their case 
directly instead of going through a third party that isn't likely to be 
heard.

In that manner the UN is effectively without "balls" as in Eunch. 
nuetered...know what I mean? Not that they have no valid authority or 
anything, because they are comprised of member nations from all over the 
globe and as such carry the weight and opinion of those nations 
represented. Only that, as I said, the current administration, whether 
right or wrong, isn't likely going to give much weight to statements and 
mandates coming from the UN. It would appear that their mind is set, (US 
administration) and they've decided which direction they're going to go. 
I would to God that it were no so. I really believe there is a better 
way of dealing with Iraq and I also personally believe it should be 
strong, thorough, permanant, decisive, and most of all multi-national 
through the UN. Anything else will only enflame the situation and make 
America's standing in the global community that much more tenuous.

Sorry for the confusion. :) I'll try to refrain from responding to 
matter of weight until I've at least *finished* my first cup of coffee.

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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Friday 31 January 2003 06:54 am, Frank Mertens wrote:
> The United States are about to start a war without of consideration
> for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are
> collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please
> do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the
> attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've received a
> list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the United
> Nations 
> Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition!

I just forwarded this list of names to the following:

FBI (Federal Bureau Of Investigation)
CIA (Central Intelligence Agency)
NSA (National Security Agency)
OHS (Office Of Homeland Security)
MADD (mothers against drunk drivers)
DAMM (drunks against mad mothers)

and any other pertinent organisation I can bloody well think of!!!



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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Anne Wilson]

On Friday 31 Jan 2003 3:16 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> I agree, no more posts on the subject please. Lets make this the last.

In any case, do the math.  Your name, if you sign, after only a couple more 
iterations appears on more than 1700 different 'petitions'.  Do you seriously 
expect anyone to take notice of that?  It's nothing more than an old-fashined 
chain mail.  A great way of clogging up the internet.  Bin it.

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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Todd Slater]

> On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:14, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > 
> > In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent 
> > sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and communicating your 
> > feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has no balls.
> > 
> > Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much better chance 
> > at least getting heard.
> > 
> > Mark

You think the US legislative branch has balls? Maybe one or two members.
Most are corporate whores.

Todd


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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Benjamin Jeeves]

Maybe you should have not posted it to this group as you say it not a 
political group.

On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Lanman,
>
> I interpreted his disparagement to apply to the UN rather than to
> us.  Still, clarity is a good thing when insulting randomly and
> in a public forum (or amy discourse in any forum, for that matter).
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
> From: Lanman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] against the war!
>
> >Mark; Could you take a moment to define your use of the word
>
> "Balls"?
>
> >I'm hoping that your intended use of the word was in reference
>
> to the
>
> >fact that this list is not a political group, and therefore is
>
> probably
>
> >unable to effect a change in the foreign policies of the United
>
> States
>
> >where war is the outcome, rather than implying that this group or
> >members thereof have no will or courage of their own?
> >
> >A clarification would probably go a long way to minimizing the
>
> list of
>
> >replies that your post would otherwise generate!
> >
> >Lanman
> >
> >On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:14, Mark Weaver wrote:
> >> Frank Mertens wrote:
> >> > The United States are about to start a war without of
>
> consideration
>
> >> > for international law. If you want to speak against it, the
>
> UN are
>
> >> > collecting signatures to work against this tragically event.
>
> Please
>
> >> > do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the
> >> > attached list and send it to all the people you know. If
>
> you've received a
>
> >> > list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy
>
> to the United
>
> >> > Nations <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition!
> >>
> >> In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent
> >> sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and
>
> communicating your
>
> >> feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has
>
> no balls.
>
> >> Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much
>
> better chance
>
> >> at least getting heard.
> >>
> >> Mark
>
> __
>
> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[JM5379]

Lanman,

I interpreted his disparagement to apply to the UN rather than to
us.  Still, clarity is a good thing when insulting randomly and
in a public forum (or amy discourse in any forum, for that matter).


--- Original Message ---
From: Lanman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] against the war!

>Mark; Could you take a moment to define your use of the word
"Balls"?
>I'm hoping that your intended use of the word was in reference
to the
>fact that this list is not a political group, and therefore is
probably
>unable to effect a change in the foreign policies of the United
States
>where war is the outcome, rather than implying that this group or
>members thereof have no will or courage of their own?
>
>A clarification would probably go a long way to minimizing the
list of
>replies that your post would otherwise generate!
>
>Lanman  
>
>
>
>On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:14, Mark Weaver wrote:
>> Frank Mertens wrote:
>> > The United States are about to start a war without of
consideration
>> > for international law. If you want to speak against it, the
UN are
>> > collecting signatures to work against this tragically event.
Please
>> > do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the
>> > attached list and send it to all the people you know. If
you've received a
>> > list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy
to the United
>> > Nations <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition! 
>> > 
>> 
>> In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent 
>> sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and
communicating your 
>> feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has
no balls.
>> 
>> Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much
better chance 
>> at least getting heard.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
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>> 
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>> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>
>




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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Lanman]

Mark; Could you take a moment to define your use of the word "Balls"?
I'm hoping that your intended use of the word was in reference to the
fact that this list is not a political group, and therefore is probably
unable to effect a change in the foreign policies of the United States
where war is the outcome, rather than implying that this group or
members thereof have no will or courage of their own?

A clarification would probably go a long way to minimizing the list of
replies that your post would otherwise generate!

Lanman  



On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:14, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Frank Mertens wrote:
> > The United States are about to start a war without of consideration
> > for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are
> > collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please
> > do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the
> > attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've received a
> > list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the United
> > Nations 
> > Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition! 
> > 
> 
> In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent 
> sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and communicating your 
> feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has no balls.
> 
> Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much better chance 
> at least getting heard.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> __
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Re: [newbie] against the war!

[Mark Weaver]

Frank Mertens wrote:

The United States are about to start a war without of consideration
for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are
collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please
do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the
attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've received a
list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the United
Nations 
Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition! 


In all seriousness your time and energy would be far better spent 
sending these sigs to the US congress and senate and communicating your 
feelings to them rather then sending them to a body that has no balls.

Let Washington know and hear how you feel. you've a much better chance 
at least getting heard.

Mark


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[newbie] against the war!

[Frank Mertens]

The United States are about to start a war without of consideration
for international law. If you want to speak against it, the UN are
collecting signatures to work against this tragically event. Please
do copy this e-mail to a new mail, sign it at the end of the
attached list and send it to all the people you know. If you've received a
list with more than 500 signatures, please send another copy to the United
Nations 
Even if you decide not to sign, please forward this petition! 

Die Vereinigten Staaten sind gerade dabei einen Krieg zu diktieren.
Wir befinden uns heutzutage in einem weltweiten Ungleichgewicht, was
zu einem Dritten Weltkrieg fuehren kann. Wenn Du Dich ebenfalls dagegen
aussprichst, die UNO ist gerade dabei Unterschriften zu sammeln, um diesem
tragischen Geschehen entgegenzuwirken.
Bitte kopiere diese e-mail in eine neue mail, unterzeichne sie am
Ende der Liste, die unten angehaengt ist und schicke sie an alle Personen,
die Du kennst. Wenn Du die Liste mit mehr als 500 Namen erhaeltst, dann
schicke bitte eine Kopie davon an:
United Nation <> 
Auch wenn Du Dich entschliessen solltest nicht zu unterzeichnen,
dann schicke die Petition bitte trotzdem weiter.

Estados Unidos está a punto de dictar la guerra. Hoy nos encontramos
en un punto en desequilibrio mundial por lo que puede dar inicio a un a
Tercera Guerra Mundial. Si tu estas en contra, la ONU se encuentra
recopilando firmas para evitar este tragico acontecimiento mundial.
Por favor copia este e-mail en un mensaje nuevo, firma al final de
la lista que verasa continuacion, y envialo a todas las personas que
conozcas. Si recibes esta lista con mas de 500 nombres en ella, por favor
envia una copia del mensaje a:
United Nations <> 
Incluso si decides no firmar, por favor se considerado y no elimines la
peticion.
SOLO REENVIALO PARA JUNTOS HACER ALGO

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