Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official
On Jul 19, 2004, at 1:25, frankieh wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 18 July 2004 12:13 pm, Avi Schwartz wrote: What is the advantage apt-get has over urpm*? I used it only for a short amount of time on Debian and as far as I can tell, the urpm* suite of programs seem to be equivalent to apt-get. But as I said, I am not fluent when it comes to apt-get. On the command line, the differences are minimal IMO, but there is a large group of people that prefer the gui frontend called synaptic. I am speaking for them here, but they prefer the integrated functionality as opposed to the simple approach taken by rpmdrake. Personally, it doesn't much matter to me because I work primarily from the command line now, but as they say, difernt strokes for difernt folks. I thought dpkg was one of the things apt-get does that makes it somewhat better. For example, if you install postfix, it stops and asks you for the main settings and then configures it as well so its mostly ready to go as soon as its installed. The first time I played with debian, I was suprised that the installing packages were asking me config questions... its pretty cool. OK, now I understand and I agree on both items. While I never used synaptic, I did use SuSE for few years and their installer (YAST) is integrated which is much nicer in my opinion. As for dpkg, yet this is nice indeed. Now I remember that it did this for me as well, stop and ask for configuration settings during the install. BTW, I remember that at least on some occasions, YAST did this as well in SuSE so it may be something that can be added to the RPMs, like a post-install configuration step. Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official
Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 18 July 2004 12:13 pm, Avi Schwartz wrote: What is the advantage apt-get has over urpm*? I used it only for a short amount of time on Debian and as far as I can tell, the urpm* suite of programs seem to be equivalent to apt-get. But as I said, I am not fluent when it comes to apt-get. On the command line, the differences are minimal IMO, but there is a large group of people that prefer the gui frontend called synaptic. I am speaking for them here, but they prefer the integrated functionality as opposed to the simple approach taken by rpmdrake. Personally, it doesn't much matter to me because I work primarily from the command line now, but as they say, difernt strokes for difernt folks. I thought dpkg was one of the things apt-get does that makes it somewhat better. For example, if you install postfix, it stops and asks you for the main settings and then configures it as well so its mostly ready to go as soon as its installed. The first time I played with debian, I was suprised that the installing packages were asking me config questions... its pretty cool. -- rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official
On Sunday 18 July 2004 12:13 pm, Avi Schwartz wrote: > > What is the advantage apt-get has over urpm*? I used it only for a > short amount of time on Debian and as far as I can tell, the urpm* > suite of programs seem to be equivalent to apt-get. But as I said, I > am not fluent when it comes to apt-get. > On the command line, the differences are minimal IMO, but there is a large group of people that prefer the gui frontend called synaptic. I am speaking for them here, but they prefer the integrated functionality as opposed to the simple approach taken by rpmdrake. Personally, it doesn't much matter to me because I work primarily from the command line now, but as they say, difernt strokes for difernt folks. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official
Avi Schwartz wrote: On Jul 18, 2004, at 10:54, Eric Jackson wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:43:00 -0400, Lanman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying an experiment on Mandrake 10.0 Official and I need an RPM for apt-get that will install on it. If anyone has found something, can you send me the link? TIA Lanman Try this. Mandrake 10.X carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/ 10.0/contrib/i586/apt-0.5.15cnc5-4mdk.i586.rpm I think apt-get is part of this package. I found the package by doing a search at http://rpm.pbone.net/ What is the advantage apt-get has over urpm*? I used it only for a short amount of time on Debian and as far as I can tell, the urpm* suite of programs seem to be equivalent to apt-get. But as I said, I am not fluent when it comes to apt-get. Avi Just trying an experiment, that's all. I like to "play" and see how easy it is to break my test system. Just my idea of a "Good Time". Go Figure! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official
On Jul 18, 2004, at 10:54, Eric Jackson wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:43:00 -0400, Lanman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying an experiment on Mandrake 10.0 Official and I need an RPM for apt-get that will install on it. If anyone has found something, can you send me the link? TIA Lanman Try this. Mandrake 10.X carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/ 10.0/contrib/i586/apt-0.5.15cnc5-4mdk.i586.rpm I think apt-get is part of this package. I found the package by doing a search at http://rpm.pbone.net/ What is the advantage apt-get has over urpm*? I used it only for a short amount of time on Debian and as far as I can tell, the urpm* suite of programs seem to be equivalent to apt-get. But as I said, I am not fluent when it comes to apt-get. Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:43:00 -0400, Lanman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying an experiment on Mandrake 10.0 Official and I need an RPM for apt-get that will install on it. If anyone has found something, can you send me the link? TIA Lanman Try this. Mandrake 10.X carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/10.0/contrib/i586/apt-0.5.15cnc5-4mdk.i586.rpm I think apt-get is part of this package. I found the package by doing a search at http://rpm.pbone.net/ Eric Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official
I'm trying an experiment on Mandrake 10.0 Official and I need an RPM for apt-get that will install on it. If anyone has found something, can you send me the link? TIA Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] APT for Mandrake
I, too, would love to hear more about this. I've been off playing with Debian Sarge for a couple of days and although there are a number of things I prefer about MDK, I must say that I was completely seduced by Apt, along with the GUI, Synaptic. Much better than urpmi and MDK's GUI tools. Typing apt-get update and apt-get upgrade without any of the issues of MDK was just great. Being able to browse through >13,000 programs/files I could install was also amazing. But, installing and updating them was just too smooth for words. apt-get install openoffice telling me I had it installed and then upgrading to the newest version was great. But, it was installing Firefox and Superkaramba via apt-get install superkaramba (nothing more) was too sweet for words. On MDK, both were a pain for different reasons. MDK clearly still has a much better install process (Debian's new installer still has lots of room to grow). MDK also has much cleaner config tools through the Control Centre. Add in something like Up2date like Fedora (MDK seems to be moving in that direction) and Apt to find and install and update open source programs outside of MDK and MDK would be perfect. As an aside, it's nice to be able to actually compare these distros and see strengths and weaknesses, between them. I could never do that with XP. Rory On Sunday 25 April 2004 8:57 am, Keith Powell wrote: > I have downloaded APT from Mandrake10 Contrib, and have tried to get it > working. > > It attempts to access the APT repository at Sunet, but says it can't. > > Does anyone know if APT is now back with Mandrake? It used to be and then > "disappeared". If so, where is the repository, please? > > Even if it does work, there may be no packages from it, which are not > available from the urpmi sources. I though it was worth looking at, though. > > Many thanks > > Keith -- ~Rory Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] APT for Mandrake
I have downloaded APT from Mandrake10 Contrib, and have tried to get it working. It attempts to access the APT repository at Sunet, but says it can't. Does anyone know if APT is now back with Mandrake? It used to be and then "disappeared". If so, where is the repository, please? Even if it does work, there may be no packages from it, which are not available from the urpmi sources. I though it was worth looking at, though. Many thanks Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] apt for lnux
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 03:59 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: |IT doesn't format anything, i.e. it keeps what you've got including | installed software "younger" or even "strange" to the distrib you're | upgrading. Even kernel differences show up and "lilo" (the start up | screen) will be configured to show old_linux (the kernel you're | running now) and linux(the new upgraded one). |HarM Thanks. I'll give it a go. -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. ~ Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt for lnux
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 22:51, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > If so what do I loose? IT doesn't format anything, i.e. it keeps what you've got including installed software "younger" or even "strange" to the distrib you're upgrading. Even kernel differences show up and "lilo" (the start up screen) will be configured to show old_linux (the kernel you're running now) and linux(the new upgraded one). Example: I've got a netraverse_patched mdk-kernel i need to run win4lin..upgrading I don't lose it, not even as a "default" boot option. Mandrake is very good at that:o) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt for lnux
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 03:07 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: |On Tuesday 16 September 2003 20:38, Curt Tresenriter wrote: |> A few other problems that seem unrelated have me about to reinstall |> the whole shebang. | |Sounds a fair mess to me:o) |Actually it reeks of KDE dependencies. |I wouldn't reinstall that quickly tho.an "upgrade" is a wonderfull | way to clean a lot of messes up. OK I went and got the beer... I choose 'upgrade' as opposed to 'install' - right? Does this include formatting the root partition? If so what do I loose? Thanks for the help -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. ~ Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt for lnux
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 20:38, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > A few other problems that seem unrelated have me about to reinstall the > whole shebang. Sounds a fair mess to me:o) Actually it reeks of KDE dependencies. I wouldn't reinstall that quickly tho.an "upgrade" is a wonderfull way to clean a lot of messes up. By that I mean stick in the install-cd and when prompted opt for the upgrade offered (by default). It'll take about 10 min (YMMV) and at the least, clean up borked urpmi files etc. So, upgrade...sitback (take a beer, which as your e-mail name suggests, you don't dislike) then reboot and cross every finger (or more) you've got nad then just maybe everything'll work as it should. If not you can always do the re-install thing:o) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt for lnux
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 01:05 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: |On Tuesday 16 September 2003 18:40, Curt Tresenriter wrote: |> Well urpmi is giving me so much trouble I thought I'd give apt a |> try - but then I found Tex isn't maintaining the repository any |> more. | |I'm sorry I didn't follow your thread on that. Better said I did, then | it got messy (the thread) so I baled out, sorry. | |I personally have had a few messups with urpmi but never enough to not | be happy with it. |Admittedly I use a mix of the gui-tool in mcc and the command line for |upgrading, configuring etc...with special thanks to the PLF tool:o) | |So what is actually the problem, give it a second try? |If the prob really is urpmi it can be solved. It's working alright for individual packages but the --auto-select -a refuses to update because it can't find moz 1.1 (galeon needs it) so I installed galeon (1.2.5-8.1mdk) by itself but then auto-select wants to remove it due to not seeing moz 1.1 - which was part of a recent clean install from the Power Pack CDs - (mdk9.0) Then I added an icon set now *it's* conflicting with kedart when it comes time to install and everything grinds to a halt. A few other problems that seem unrelated have me about to reinstall the whole shebang. -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. ~ Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt for lnux
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 18:40, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > Well urpmi is giving me so much trouble I thought I'd give apt a try > - but then I found Tex isn't maintaining the repository any more. I'm sorry I didn't follow your thread on that. Better said I did, then it got messy (the thread) so I baled out, sorry. I personally have had a few messups with urpmi but never enough to not be happy with it. Admittedly I use a mix of the gui-tool in mcc and the command line for upgrading, configuring etc...with special thanks to the PLF tool:o) So what is actually the problem, give it a second try? If the prob really is urpmi it can be solved. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt for lnux
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 11:06 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: | |When you've got urpmi why use apt-get? |The best won!:o) | |Good luck, |HarM Well urpmi is giving me so much trouble I thought I'd give apt a try - but then I found Tex isn't maintaining the repository any more. Due to (supposed) dependencies - libasound.so.1 (it's installed) and moz 1.1 (also installed) I can't get anything updated with auto-select. maybe I haven't found the right combination of mirrors yet. I've been changing them one by one and trying again, so far with the same results. Curt -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. ~ Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] apt for lnux
Has anyone using apt-get with mandrake? -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. ~ Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt for lnux
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 17:59, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > Has anyone using apt-get with mandrake? When you've got urpmi why use apt-get? The best won!:o) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt question
Thers is a file /etc/apt/vendors.list, you just backup and remove it so apt can work properly. But I can't use apt to install from src.rpm,for the rpm-src source sux. If anyone know how to make it work, let me know, thanks. :) Hi When I try to use apt I get this: $ apt-cache search wmweather E: Syntax error /etc/apt/vendors.list:11: Extra junk at end of file E: could not open package priority file /etc/apt/rpmpriorities I assume its not setup correctly. Anybody able to advise me how to fix this? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] APT
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 1:53 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Friday 13 Jun 2003 1:33 pm, Keith Powell wrote: > > Is the Ibiblio APT repository no longer available? I have been trying to > > access it for some time, but all I get is a 404 error. > > > > On an associated note, is the PLF source no longer available? I can't > > access that either. > > > > Many thanks > > > > Keith > > If you mean Texstars apt repository, following an outage at ibiblio his > files came back with a different path. Check with the link at > pclinuxonline.net to find the current path to the repository. > > As for PLF, they had an outage a daya ago, but they seem OK now. > > If downloading from plf, some of their morrirs are pretty poor. Personallu > I find the club-internet one OK. > > derek Hello Derek. Thank you for the information. May I say that, under the circumstances, it was very apt. The PLF source is now working, but I am having still problems on getting Texstar's apt working. Must have still got the path wrong, but will have another try. :-( Many thanks again Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] APT
On Friday 13 Jun 2003 1:33 pm, Keith Powell wrote: > Is the Ibiblio APT repository no longer available? I have been trying to > access it for some time, but all I get is a 404 error. > > On an associated note, is the PLF source no longer available? I can't > access that either. > > Many thanks > > Keith If you mean Texstars apt repository, following an outage at ibiblio his files came back with a different path. Check with the link at pclinuxonline.net to find the current path to the repository. As for PLF, they had an outage a daya ago, but they seem OK now. If downloading from plf, some of their morrirs are pretty poor. Personallu I find the club-internet one OK. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] apt-get update gives strange message
In trying to keep my system up to date... as root I typed "apt-get upgrade -f" This is the message I got. Can someone please explain this to me? --begin error-- Reading Package Lists... Collecting File Provides... Building Dependency Tree... Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages will be upgraded cvs libgimpprint1 libglib2.0_0 libpng3 netscape printer-testpages The following packages will be REMOVED: evolution evolution-devel evolution-pilot gal gnome-spell The following packages have been kept back XFree86-devel XFree86-libs XFree86-xfs arts aspell aspell-en kdeadmin kdebase kdebase-nsplugins kdegames kdegraphics kdelibs kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils libarts libqt3 libsane1 licq licq-console licq-rms lisa pan quanta sane-backends 6 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 5 removed and 27 not upgraded. Need to get 20.7MB of archives. After unpacking 73.6MB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] --end error -- Why is it trying to remove evolution? And why is it keeping some packages back? What do I need to do from here? If I need to remove evolution, is there a way to back up my emails and settings so when I reinstall it I wont have lost anything? TP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] apt-get produces puzzling output ..
Hello all. As root, I ran 'apt-get upgrade' and received the following output. --begin output -- Reading Package Lists... Collecting File Provides... Building Dependency Tree... The following packages have been kept back XFree86-devel XFree86-libs XFree86-xfs arts aspell aspell-en gnome-spell kdeadmin kdebase kdebase-nsplugins kdegames kdegraphics kdelibs kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils libarts libqt3 licq licq-console licq-rms lisa pan quanta 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 26 not upgraded. --end output -- My question is, why are those packages being "kept back"? Is this an issue that I need to resolve and if so, how? Thanks, TP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] apt sources
I just installed texstar's apt and synaptic. I like the concept, but the iblio.org server is so sl o o o o w .. Can anyone point me to an alternative site or two? TIA -- Michel Clasquin [EMAIL PROTECTED] When all is One, all violence is masochism. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt
There is urpmi for Mandrake. A simple "urpmi ogle_gui" would give you the same result bye suka Am Mit, 2002-01-30 um 04.14 schrieb Walter Logeman: > > Hi, > > saw this on http://freshrpms.net/ > > 02 Jan 2002 - Happy new year to everyone! And as a special gift > to all of you Red Hat Linux users, I bring you at last my > packages apt-get-able ;-) All you need to do is to install the > "apt" package found here, run "apt-get update" then you're all > set! A simple "apt-get install ogle_gui" will for instance >retrieve and install ogle, libdvdread and libdvdcss >automatically for you, even gtk+ if you don't have it ;-) > > will this work with mandrake? > > Or is there something similar? > > Walter > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] apt
Hi, saw this on http://freshrpms.net/ 02 Jan 2002 - Happy new year to everyone! And as a special gift to all of you Red Hat Linux users, I bring you at last my packages apt-get-able ;-) All you need to do is to install the "apt" package found here, run "apt-get update" then you're all set! A simple "apt-get install ogle_gui" will for instance retrieve and install ogle, libdvdread and libdvdcss automatically for you, even gtk+ if you don't have it ;-) will this work with mandrake? Or is there something similar? Walter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] apt-get?
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:03:57 +0200, Søren Neigaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I don't know whether I should install Mandrake or Debian :) Do > Mandrake have something like apt-get, to install packages, and upgrade > the hole system? > > Come one, give me some buzzwords, why should I prefer mandrake? Mandrake has not one, but _two_ apt-like tools. urpmi is Mandrake's own app, designed to cater for newbies and to serve as a backend for Mandrake's Software Manager. rpm-get is essentially a port of apt-get to RPM. Consequently, it works in a very similar manner. As of Mandrake 8.1, it is officially supported along with urpmi. If you like apt-get, this is the Mandrake tool you'd be after. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time." -- Bill Gates (from the Foreword to the OS/2 Programmers' Guide) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] apt-get?
Hi I don't know whether I should install Mandrake or Debian :) Do Mandrake have something like apt-get, to install packages, and upgrade the hole system? Come one, give me some buzzwords, why should I prefer mandrake? -- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards, Søren Neigaard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
