Re: [newbie] Backing Up MDK 10.0 Partition
On Monday 31 May 2004 19:28, John Rathmann wrote: > Can someone please tell me which package(s) are for backing up the Mandrake > 10.0 ext2 partition (mirror image), and also for restoring it, if needed? > In Windows ME, I use PowerQuest's Drive Image, which works extremely well, > and I am looking for a good match to do the same thing under Linux. > > John Rathmann > [EMAIL PROTECTED] drakbackup in the drakxtools package will back up your data to CD, ftp, or ssh for you. There are also other tools such as mondo. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Backing Up MDK 10.0 Partition
Can someone please tell me which package(s) are for backing up the Mandrake 10.0 ext2 partition (mirror image), and also for restoring it, if needed? In Windows ME, I use PowerQuest's Drive Image, which works extremely well, and I am looking for a good match to do the same thing under Linux. John Rathmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Backing up files.
On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 23:46, Marc wrote:
> Well my upgrade to ML 10.0 official was not a total success. It looks like I
> will have to do a clean installation from scratch.
I haven't tried the upgrade option recently but I've had limited success
with it in the past. In a way it's fair enough- there are an enormous
number of packages and making sure that the users' data & the system
settings are still valid (syntactically & semantically) for every one of
those constantly evolving pieces of software is a huge job. Technically
I think it is the responsibility of the software to upgrade the data
structures if they are from a previous version (Evolution does this
well) but generally the non-commercial packages don't seem to. And
guessing at which packages are required is tough. It seems to me it
might be best to take that option out and force people to properly
back-up only the data they need and select the packages they want. These
unsuccessful upgrades don't do a great deal for the image of the distro.
Just my $0.02.
> I would like to do this clean installation without lozeing to much stuff,
> espicially bookmarks in opera, emails in kmail and contact list in kmail. It
> seems like every time I try this I have problems with those things.
The trick is to find the directories, in your home directory, in which
these user-specific settings/data are stored and only move those to the
new set up. For instance opera stores its settings in '.opera', so
backing up this will save your bookmarks. Kmail settings will be in the
'.kde' directory, I'd think. I wouldn't recommend carrying all that
folder forward. Best just to copy the actual kmail folder, which might
be at '/home/bar/.kde/share/apps/kmail/' but I don't use it so don't
really know. Go in and look at the file structure/date stamps/file sizes
and see if this tallies with yr data and latest check of mail.
> I would be thankful for any advice on what to back up or any tips on how to
> make this as painless as possible.
Back up everything, all the time! ;) But seriously, it is worth taking
backups, as regularly as you can afford to loose the data.
Make sure you can get back to the state you're in at the moment if it
all goes pete tong. Although I've recommended moving as few directories
as possible, to keep success rate as high as possible, make sure you
back everything up.
Generally what I do when moving to a new version of mdk is (as root,
clearly- with nobody else logged in):
1) move my home directories to a different place on my home partition.
ie. mv /home/bar/ /home/foo/ .
2) Then I run the install, choose the 'new installation' option (or
whatever it's called!) then, at the partition formatting stage I leave
the home partition deselected. That way it doesn't delete my data.
3) On restart I log in as root, copy (not move- I want to keep the
integrity of my old home dir) the directories I want to salvage to the
new account and change the owner of them, recursively, to the new user
('bar'). (Unless you've got lucky and put yr users back on in the same
order & yr UIDs match from last install.)
4) Profit. Or at least u'll be able to log on & fire up yr apps with all
old data intact.
For apps which don't let you use old setting/data directories there are
ways to salvage the situation. If you have any of those then let us
know.
YMMV- if you're not completely comfortable with what I've just described
then just restore from media. In either case copy yr data onto removable
media before installing. Don't take any risks!
Good luck!
A.
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Re: [newbie] Backing up files.
On Friday 16 April 2004 05:46 pm, Marc wrote: > Well my upgrade to ML 10.0 official was not a total success. It looks > like I will have to do a clean installation from scratch. > > I would like to do this clean installation without lozeing to much > stuff, espicially bookmarks in opera, emails in kmail and contact list in > kmail. It seems like every time I try this I have problems with those > things. > > I would be thankful for any advice on what to back up or any tips on > how to make this as painless as possible. > > TIA > > Marc Marc, I use "backerupper" it will backup whatever you want into a .zip file and put it where ever you want. I regularly backup my entire $HOME partition as well as me /etc to another drive then write to a cd. If you want I'll send it over. Chris -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 9:43pm up 10 days, 4:18, 3 users, load average: 1.99, 1.67, 1.15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Backing up files.
On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 19:46, Marc wrote: > Well my upgrade to ML 10.0 official was not a total success. It looks like I > will have to do a clean installation from scratch. > > I would like to do this clean installation without lozeing to much stuff, > espicially bookmarks in opera, emails in kmail and contact list in kmail. It > seems like every time I try this I have problems with those things. > > I would be thankful for any advice on what to back up or any tips on how to > make this as painless as possible. > > TIA > > Marc > > > __ If you have space, use DiskDrake and create a home partition. I will move everything you have to your new home directory. But be careful. -- josenildo marques icq #289971493 homepage http://cyb.ezdir.net registered linux user #341648 * "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously." Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Backing up files.
Well my upgrade to ML 10.0 official was not a total success. It looks like I will have to do a clean installation from scratch. I would like to do this clean installation without lozeing to much stuff, espicially bookmarks in opera, emails in kmail and contact list in kmail. It seems like every time I try this I have problems with those things. I would be thankful for any advice on what to back up or any tips on how to make this as painless as possible. TIA Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Backing up the important stuff for an upgrade.
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 21:23:57 +0100 Inhabitant of Zion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Ahh that explains it then. Get the gun I need shooting! I had two > users and went down to one. Load that sucker with an extra round, my friend, I did not know that either. I have just always set up one user account first, so I've been lucky... > Did not realise it would cause a problem... well you live and learn... or as my university roommate used to say, "live and burn"... -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 ++ There is no comfort without pain; thus we define salvation through suffering. -- Cato Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backing up the important stuff for an upgrade.
> > One thing to watch, though, is that if you have more than one user you > *must* add the users back in the same order, or you will get a > confusion of user ids - possible what caused the problem described > above? > Ahh that explains it then. Get the gun I need shooting! I had two users and went down to one. Did not realise it would cause a problem... well you live and learn... John -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 92791912 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Backing up the important stuff for an upgrade.
On Sunday 20 Jul 2003 6:28 am, Inhabitant of Zion wrote: > > When you install Mandrake, you have the option of "use existing > > partitions", and then you can choose to only format the system > > partition, /. > > > > by leaving the /home partition intact, either Red Hat or Mandrake > > will have access to them. Of course, some of the config files and > > such may be out or sync, but you can just delete any that cause > > you probs. > > > > As always, it would be a good idea to backup your home dir to > > cdrom or something, just in case. > > I have tried this myself. I can say it has some pitfalls to avoid: > > 1) Make sure you don't give your self the same username as on the > old system or you won't be able to log on. > 2) All the files will be locked to the user on your old system. > 3) You will need to know where to find all the hidden files that > hold things like filter rules and all you favourites for Mozilla > etc if you plan to chmod them and swop them across to your new user > home directory. > I've never had any problem like that, nor ever heard of it before. Of course if you back up to a cd they will all be read-only, so you will have to deal with that when you copy them back. One thing to watch, though, is that if you have more than one user you *must* add the users back in the same order, or you will get a confusion of user ids - possible what caused the problem described above? I simply made a list of all the users and their ids, and used that to make sure that I matched them in the new install. Everyone's home directory was then readable without any problems. As long as your /home is on a separate partition you should have no problems (though back up is still the only sensible route). If it isn't, another partition if you have one, or a cd backup would have to be used. In that case, when you start the install, choose to manually partition and give yourself a /home partition then leave the rest of the space for Mandrake to deal with. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backing up the important stuff for an upgrade.
On Sun, 2003-07-20 at 12:25, ThinKer wrote: > I am currently using Mandrake 9.0. I am looking to upgrade my system to > either Mandrake 9.1 or Redhat 9.0 (I haven't decided yet). After having Mandrake, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the RedHat distro - both version 8.0 and the new version 9; Mandrake packages a huge amount of "end user" utilities and programs that you will manually have to find/download/install/compile - and as well, when you start digging into the RedHat mailing lists, you're not going to find quite the same amount of camaraderie and helpfulness that you'll find in the Mandrake community. I really hate to steer someone away from using RedHat, but unless you're doing large scale server work, it's not quite the "desktop" that it either should be, or could be. But if you're going to experiment, by all means - just make sure you back up your /home partition and then off ya go! > In either case, I would like to backup all my work and reinstall from > scratch. I mainly use this machine for coding and checking mail so I > only use Evolution, Netscape, and Quanta. Back up your /home partition. -- Sun Jul 20 16:40:01 EST 2003 16:40:01 up 6 days, 8:43, 2 users, load average: 0.49, 0.43, 0.35 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Sam Vimes could parallel process. Most husbands can. They learn to follow their own line of thought while at the same time listening to what their wives say. And the listening is important, because at any time they could be challenged and must be ready to quote the last sentence in full. A vital additional skill is being able to scan the dialogue for telltale phrases such as "and they can deliver it tomorrow" or "so I've invited them for dinner?" or "they can do it in blur, really quite cheaply." (The Fifth Elephant) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backing up the important stuff for an upgrade.
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 06:28:01 +0100 Inhabitant of Zion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > I have tried this myself. I can say it has some pitfalls to avoid: > > 1) Make sure you don't give your self the same username as on the old > system or you won't be able to log on. > 2) All the files will be locked to the user on your old system. > 3) You will need to know where to find all the hidden files that hold > things like filter rules and all you favourites for Mozilla etc if you > plan to chmod them and swop them across to your new user home > directory. Never, ever had to do this, or had a problem. Any of them. First time I've heard of it. But...never say never, so, back it up *somewhere*. > I have tried copying all my home directory to a CD but for some reason > it either does not copy across the hidden files or they remain hidden > on the CD-ROM. That is the fault of the burning program, I would say. The CD should retain the hidden status of course, it's just a filename! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 ++ Truth has no special time of its own. Its hour is now -- always. -- Albert Schweitzer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backing up the important stuff for an upgrade.
> > When you install Mandrake, you have the option of "use existing > partitions", and then you can choose to only format the system > partition, /. > > by leaving the /home partition intact, either Red Hat or Mandrake will > have access to them. Of course, some of the config files and such may be > out or sync, but you can just delete any that cause you probs. > > As always, it would be a good idea to backup your home dir to cdrom or > something, just in case. > I have tried this myself. I can say it has some pitfalls to avoid: 1) Make sure you don't give your self the same username as on the old system or you won't be able to log on. 2) All the files will be locked to the user on your old system. 3) You will need to know where to find all the hidden files that hold things like filter rules and all you favourites for Mozilla etc if you plan to chmod them and swop them across to your new user home directory. I have tried copying all my home directory to a CD but for some reason it either does not copy across the hidden files or they remain hidden on the CD-ROM. Somebody on here has explained about how to adjust the settings so you can see hidden files IIRC. I wish I had kept a copy of that mail :-( John -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 92791912 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Backing up the important stuff for an upgrade.
On 19 Jul 2003 22:25:35 -0400 ThinKer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: ***please oh please clear your reply-to address in your mail client. otherwise, replies don't go to the list, and then no one has a chance to say "waitaminnit, don't listen to joe! he's an idiot!"*** > I am currently using Mandrake 9.0. I am looking to upgrade my system > to either Mandrake 9.1 or Redhat 9.0 (I haven't decided yet). > > In either case, I would like to backup all my work and reinstall from > scratch. I mainly use this machine for coding and checking mail so I > only use Evolution, Netscape, and Quanta. When you install Mandrake, you have the option of "use existing partitions", and then you can choose to only format the system partition, /. I am not sure if Red Hat will do that, and of course I must say I would strongly recommend avoiding Red Hat like the plague. Ask Stephen, he's a "Red Hat Refugee"! > What exactly do I need to back up, and how should I go about backing > it up so that either Mandrake or Red Hat will be able to utilize my > old files? by leaving the /home partition intact, either Red Hat or Mandrake will have access to them. Of course, some of the config files and such may be out or sync, but you can just delete any that cause you probs. As always, it would be a good idea to backup your home dir to cdrom or something, just in case. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 ++ You can only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 ++ The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. -- A. Camus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Backing up the important stuff for an upgrade.
I am currently using Mandrake 9.0. I am looking to upgrade my system to either Mandrake 9.1 or Redhat 9.0 (I haven't decided yet). In either case, I would like to backup all my work and reinstall from scratch. I mainly use this machine for coding and checking mail so I only use Evolution, Netscape, and Quanta. What exactly do I need to back up, and how should I go about backing it up so that either Mandrake or Red Hat will be able to utilize my old files? Thanks in advance, Thinker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backing Up Mail
your configurations, rules/filter, preferences, etc are in kmailrc under ~/.kde/share/config/. You are correct about the other. -s On Thursday 17 May 2001 10:24 am, you wrote: > Hi, > If I want to backup KMail including Mail, Config, Filter Rules etc. Which > locations/files need to be backed up. I think that all the Mail is kept in > my home directory as Mail but I don't know where anything else is? > > Any ideas? > TIA, > > Jord
[newbie] Backing Up Mail
Hi, If I want to backup KMail including Mail, Config, Filter Rules etc. Which locations/files need to be backed up. I think that all the Mail is kept in my home directory as Mail but I don't know where anything else is? Any ideas? TIA, Jord -- Jordan Elver while (!asleep()) sheep++;
[newbie] backing up under mount point / how?
Hi, I have 4 mount points /dev/hda5 / /dev/hda7 /usr /dev/hda8 /var /dev/had9 /home I wish to backup everything on /dev/hda5 so I can reformat it, then copy it back. However since this happens to be the / partition I know there are a lot of special entries and files there like /dev /mnt etc...and I'm not sure that a simple cp -pR is going to suffice... Can someone hopefully tell me what command I can use to successfully copy everything on /dev/hda5, then restore it after I format it? thank you!! __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] Backing up all files changed since install
Hello Lists! I'm posting this to both expert and newbie because I'm not sure how much cross subscription goes on, and I'm not exactly sure what catagory this message falls into. I'm going to be installing a Mandrake system soon, and I know you can back up the file that has the install prefrences, so you can repeat the same install at a later date. Since I'm setting up a server, I'm going to be installing a few RPMs, changing some files, adding some things etc. Once this is done I would like to backup eveything that has changed or been added since install (RPM Database, any changed files, new files, etc). This way someone could very easly format the HD, reinstall via the saved settings, the put the changes back onto the system via my selective back up. Any ideas how to do this? Thanks, Matt G. Ellis Matt G. Ellis Me spell chucker work grate. Need grandma chicken.
Re: [newbie] Backing up /home dir...
Mark Weaver escribió: > Well...I don't know what you're doing wrong. Can you tell me what exactly > it is you're doing to get this back up done? What I mean is what are the > commands and arguments you're using to do the backup? > > I've written some shell scripts that I use to automate this kind of a > process, but I can't tell you what you're doing wrong unless you can tell > me what it is that you're doing. > > -- > Mark > > ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 > ** <_||_> in the making of this | > ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 > Here it goes: From a terminal shell, as user, from /home directory: $ zip -r -1 /Fitxers/quini.zip quini/* And no /home/quini/.Directory neither /home/quini/.File are being added... I've also tryed under # Any idea?? 8-? Thanks! > On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Joan Tur wrote: > > > Hallo again! 8-) > > > > I'm trying to back up my user directory, and i'm trying to do so using > > the zip program. I compress the directory but no .something directories > > -and their contents- are being added !? > > > > What am i doing wrong? Because if i'm right all the user's > > configuration for each program is there, isn't it? 8-? > > > > Thanks!! > > > > -- > > Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 > > Joan.Tur.pagina.de > > Club.Ibosim.pagina.de -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
Re: [newbie] Backing up /home dir...
Well...I don't know what you're doing wrong. Can you tell me what exactly it is you're doing to get this back up done? What I mean is what are the commands and arguments you're using to do the backup? I've written some shell scripts that I use to automate this kind of a process, but I can't tell you what you're doing wrong unless you can tell me what it is that you're doing. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Joan Tur wrote: > Hallo again! 8-) > > I'm trying to back up my user directory, and i'm trying to do so using > the zip program. I compress the directory but no .something directories > -and their contents- are being added !? > > What am i doing wrong? Because if i'm right all the user's > configuration for each program is there, isn't it? 8-? > > Thanks!! > > -- > Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 > Joan.Tur.pagina.de > Club.Ibosim.pagina.de > > > > >
[newbie] Backing up /home dir...
Hallo again! 8-) I'm trying to back up my user directory, and i'm trying to do so using the zip program. I compress the directory but no .something directories -and their contents- are being added !? What am i doing wrong? Because if i'm right all the user's configuration for each program is there, isn't it? 8-? Thanks!! -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
Re: [newbie] backing up...
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Kirk McElhearn wrote: >I am trying to back up my Mandrake installation into a backup partition. > When I do so, I get a message that XXX special files will not be copied. > What are special files? Does this compromise my backup? I wanted to >back up the entire installation in case I screw something up... I guess these are files that are constantly in use by the system. OPen files cannot be backed up. I use TAR to backup my system to tape but have never seen these messages. What program do you use? Do you just copy things? Paul )0(---)0( Nothing is impossible for the person who doesn't have to do it himself. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] backing up...
Special files are files that represent a device. You should read a book about linux basics, it will be explained. To make a backup, use the tar command instead of cp. HTH Flupke On Fri, 5 May 2000, Kirk McElhearn wrote: > I am trying to back up my Mandrake installation into a backup partition. > When I do so, I get a message that XXX special files will not be copied. > What are special files? Does this compromise my backup? I wanted to > back up the entire installation in case I screw something up... > > Kirk > > > vice versa > Translations - French to English, English to French | Technical Writing > Traductions francais-anglais, anglais-francais | Redaction technique > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.mcelhearn.com > Kirk McElhearn | Chemin de la Lauze | 05600 Guillestre | France > >
[newbie] backing up...
I am trying to back up my Mandrake installation into a backup partition. When I do so, I get a message that XXX special files will not be copied. What are special files? Does this compromise my backup? I wanted to back up the entire installation in case I screw something up... Kirk vice versa Translations - French to English, English to French | Technical Writing Traductions francais-anglais, anglais-francais | Redaction technique . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.mcelhearn.com Kirk McElhearn | Chemin de la Lauze | 05600 Guillestre | France
Re: [newbie] Backing up MBR
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > lilo backs it up. > > man lilo and search for the "restore saved bootblock" option. > > Steve Flynn > IBM MVS Operations Analyst > > > Thanks. Michelle -- "Just because kittens are born in the hearth oven, that doesn't make them muffins." Kahlan Amnell in _Temple of the Winds_ by Terry Goodkind.
[newbie] Backing up MBR
I thought there was a program on the Mandrake cd for backing up the MBR. Now I can't find it. I looked on the cds for 5.3, 6.0, and 6.1. Am I missing something? Michelle -- "Just because kittens are born in the hearth oven, that doesn't make them muffins." Kahlan Amnell in _Temple of the Winds_ by Terry Goodkind.
