Re: [newbie] can't find /udev/hdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 09:04 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > SnapafunFrank wrote: > > I added udev by urpmi sometime after my initial clean installation > > because I was after flexibility for my flash drives. I actually followed > > a Flash USB howto that appeared to work in that particular session but > > afterward it just got to be confused so I resolved to sort it out for > > myself. ( I also installed sysfs and a couple of other requirements at > > the time.) > > > > I'm running Mandrake10 Official ~ KDE-3.2.3 ~ Kernel-2.6.3-7 and have > > stuck with it because I needed to install the OpenGL + nvidia drivers > > for a little 3D experience. > > > > Your reply makes sense and I will look to that shortly, but for now, > > though I can mount data cds and dvds, ( manually ) as user OK , and > > read/write the contents, ~ but I am unable to get my audio cd's playing > > anymore nor does it appear that supermount is actually working, ( I say > > 'appear' because things might be going on in the background that I'm not > > privy to yet.) > > How are you trying to play audio CDs? > > > At one time after I had installed udev I used to place a blank dvd in my > > writer and k3b would fire up automatically ~ not at present however. Try an audio CD lens cleaner disk sometimes works for me also check if your cd is mounted before you start if so un mount it also I have found that a lot of the cheaper cds some in a pack can be good some bad > > I believe this is handled by magicdev, but I could be wrong. > > > I have been following your efforts here and gone the way of symlinks in > > my .rules file and created links to replace things like /mnt/cdrom2 in > > case my system needs to look for that instead of /mnt/dvd-cd when > > relating to /udev/hdd or /dev/hdd ( one and same device of course which > > troubles me a wee bit ~ same device listed twice ~ don't understand this > > part yet. ie. Why is the /dev directory still about when I have > > uninstalled devfsd and issued " devfs=nomount " within lilo? As yet ' > > the penny ain't dropped ' on this one.) > > The /dev directory will stay unless you delete it. (I don't recomend > that!). The /dev directory entries should still work. They are used > during boot, before udev is started, and the udev file system is > mounted. With Mandrake 10.1, the udev file system is mounted on top of > /dev. This has the affect of hiding the old entries, while still leting > commands that expect to find the device nodes in /dev still work. > > > So a question to get me started here ~ how can I check that supermount > > is working ? eg. is there some way to log it's efforts so as to get some > > clues for troubleshooting ? ) > > ps ax | grep supermount > mount | grep supermount > > The first should show you if supermount is running, and the second > should show any active supermount mounts. > > Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] can't find /udev/hdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
SnapafunFrank wrote: I added udev by urpmi sometime after my initial clean installation because I was after flexibility for my flash drives. I actually followed a Flash USB howto that appeared to work in that particular session but afterward it just got to be confused so I resolved to sort it out for myself. ( I also installed sysfs and a couple of other requirements at the time.) I'm running Mandrake10 Official ~ KDE-3.2.3 ~ Kernel-2.6.3-7 and have stuck with it because I needed to install the OpenGL + nvidia drivers for a little 3D experience. Your reply makes sense and I will look to that shortly, but for now, though I can mount data cds and dvds, ( manually ) as user OK , and read/write the contents, ~ but I am unable to get my audio cd's playing anymore nor does it appear that supermount is actually working, ( I say 'appear' because things might be going on in the background that I'm not privy to yet.) > How are you trying to play audio CDs? At one time after I had installed udev I used to place a blank dvd in my writer and k3b would fire up automatically ~ not at present however. I believe this is handled by magicdev, but I could be wrong. I have been following your efforts here and gone the way of symlinks in my .rules file and created links to replace things like /mnt/cdrom2 in case my system needs to look for that instead of /mnt/dvd-cd when relating to /udev/hdd or /dev/hdd ( one and same device of course which troubles me a wee bit ~ same device listed twice ~ don't understand this part yet. ie. Why is the /dev directory still about when I have uninstalled devfsd and issued " devfs=nomount " within lilo? As yet ' the penny ain't dropped ' on this one.) > The /dev directory will stay unless you delete it. (I don't recomend that!). The /dev directory entries should still work. They are used during boot, before udev is started, and the udev file system is mounted. With Mandrake 10.1, the udev file system is mounted on top of /dev. This has the affect of hiding the old entries, while still leting commands that expect to find the device nodes in /dev still work. So a question to get me started here ~ how can I check that supermount is working ? eg. is there some way to log it's efforts so as to get some clues for troubleshooting ? ) ps ax | grep supermount mount | grep supermount The first should show you if supermount is running, and the second should show any active supermount mounts. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] can't find /udev/hdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: SnapafunFrank wrote: My /dev/hdc is a symlink to /udev/hdc and /udev lists /hdc so that is loaded. Yet when I go : # mount /dev/hdc or # mount /udev/hdc I get the above message My fstab entry for this is: none /mnt/dvd-rw supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,exec,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,noatime,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 and I have tried: none /mnt/dvd-rw supermount dev=/udev/hdc,fs=auto,exec,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,noatime,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 so something is not working correctly: I also have before this call: none /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 Any ideas anyone ? PS. Once I get the above resolved could someone tell what the " - - " in the mount options mean and also what the " none " at the beginning actual does and of course how is it over~ridden. All the reading I have done hasn't explained these two points to me as yet. Your DVD is being handled by supermount. What this is susposed to do is when a disk is inserted in the drive, it gets mounted automaticly. Not happening at present though it did once upon a time. The reasion you could not mount it using the device name is because you do not have a fstab entry that starts with /dev/hdc, and /dev/hdc is not a mount point used in an ftab entry. If you had tried "mount /mnt/dvd-rw" it probably would have worked. One thig I am a bit puzzeled about it the /udev directory. What version of Mandrake are you using? Did you add udev yourself, or was it part of the install? Was this a fresh install, or an upgrage? Mikkel I added udev by urpmi sometime after my initial clean installation because I was after flexibility for my flash drives. I actually followed a Flash USB howto that appeared to work in that particular session but afterward it just got to be confused so I resolved to sort it out for myself. ( I also installed sysfs and a couple of other requirements at the time.) I'm running Mandrake10 Official ~ KDE-3.2.3 ~ Kernel-2.6.3-7 and have stuck with it because I needed to install the OpenGL + nvidia drivers for a little 3D experience. Your reply makes sense and I will look to that shortly, but for now, though I can mount data cds and dvds, ( manually ) as user OK , and read/write the contents, ~ but I am unable to get my audio cd's playing anymore nor does it appear that supermount is actually working, ( I say 'appear' because things might be going on in the background that I'm not privy to yet.) At one time after I had installed udev I used to place a blank dvd in my writer and k3b would fire up automatically ~ not at present however. I have been following your efforts here and gone the way of symlinks in my .rules file and created links to replace things like /mnt/cdrom2 in case my system needs to look for that instead of /mnt/dvd-cd when relating to /udev/hdd or /dev/hdd ( one and same device of course which troubles me a wee bit ~ same device listed twice ~ don't understand this part yet. ie. Why is the /dev directory still about when I have uninstalled devfsd and issued " devfs=nomount " within lilo? As yet ' the penny ain't dropped ' on this one.) So a question to get me started here ~ how can I check that supermount is working ? eg. is there some way to log it's efforts so as to get some clues for troubleshooting ? ) -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] can't find /udev/hdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
SnapafunFrank wrote: My /dev/hdc is a symlink to /udev/hdc and /udev lists /hdc so that is loaded. Yet when I go : # mount /dev/hdc or # mount /udev/hdc I get the above message My fstab entry for this is: none /mnt/dvd-rw supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,exec,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,noatime,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 and I have tried: none /mnt/dvd-rw supermount dev=/udev/hdc,fs=auto,exec,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,noatime,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 so something is not working correctly: I also have before this call: none /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 Any ideas anyone ? PS. Once I get the above resolved could someone tell what the " - - " in the mount options mean and also what the " none " at the beginning actual does and of course how is it over~ridden. All the reading I have done hasn't explained these two points to me as yet. Your DVD is being handled by supermount. What this is susposed to do is when a disk is inserted in the drive, it gets mounted automaticly. The reasion you could not mount it using the device name is because you do not have a fstab entry that starts with /dev/hdc, and /dev/hdc is not a mount point used in an ftab entry. If you had tried "mount /mnt/dvd-rw" it probably would have worked. One thig I am a bit puzzeled about it the /udev directory. What version of Mandrake are you using? Did you add udev yourself, or was it part of the install? Was this a fresh install, or an upgrage? Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] can't find /udev/hdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
My /dev/hdc is a symlink to /udev/hdc and /udev lists /hdc so that is loaded. Yet when I go : # mount /dev/hdc or # mount /udev/hdc I get the above message My fstab entry for this is: none /mnt/dvd-rw supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,exec,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,noatime,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 and I have tried: none /mnt/dvd-rw supermount dev=/udev/hdc,fs=auto,exec,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,noatime,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 so something is not working correctly: I also have before this call: none /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 Any ideas anyone ? PS. Once I get the above resolved could someone tell what the " - - " in the mount options mean and also what the " none " at the beginning actual does and of course how is it over~ridden. All the reading I have done hasn't explained these two points to me as yet. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
