Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
ReiserFS is generaly better than Ext2 in almost every way. I, particular, it is faster, more space-efficient (no clusters!) and more crash-tolerant (since it journals). ReiserFS is set up just like any Ext2 partition. Formatting a Reiser partition will erase all data on it. Make sure you kernel supports ReiserFS (Mandrake kernels from Mandrake 7.1 onward do). Of course, you will need to modify your /etc/fstab for the new partition to be mounted at boot. Windos cannot read ReiserFS at all, so if you need Windos keep a spare FAT or NTFS partition. More information on ReiserFS can be found at http://www.namesys.com. On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:43, Paul Rodríguez wrote: > Can you tell us newbies a little bit more about reiser, > particularly, was it difficult to configure/set up? Also, If I > share a drive with win on another partition, can I switch to reiser? > I'm going to look it up now, but I was interested in your subjected > opinion of it. > > -Paul R > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux? > > Ryan Le Gros wrote: > > the way the linux file system works keeps your drive defragmented > > at all times. thats one of the reasons its absolutely vital that > > you shut your machine down properly. > > Not if you're running with ReiserFS. :) I don't know if I'll ever > go back to ext2. Not that there's anything wrong with it..its just > that Reiser is...Well, one day the power went out while I was > running and when it came back on the comp came back up and never > missed a beat. At that moment I was sold on ReiserFS. > -- > Mark > > "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being > worthless," > "Sharing is what makes them powerful." > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
I'm still a newbie myself, so I can't tell you all about reisersf. There is a web site where you can read up on it at http://www.namesys.com. When my tinkering with changes and updates hosed my system, I took advantage of the new install to restructure my partitions. You are given the option during the install to run diskdrake in the expert mode. You can select the type of file system you want (i.e. vfat, ext2, reiserfs etc.). I opted to go with reiserfs on all my former ext2 partitions. I also tried the dreaded power reset button just to see for myself if recovery is all it is said to be. It made a beliver out of me, and you won't find me going back. Barry :-) Paul Rodríguez wrote: > > Can you tell us newbies a little bit more about reiser, particularly, was it > difficult to configure/set up? Also, If I share a drive with win on another > partition, can I switch to reiser? I'm going to look it up now, but I was > interested in your subjected opinion of it. > > -Paul R > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Mark Weaver > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux? > > Ryan Le Gros wrote: > > > > the way the linux file system works keeps your drive defragmented at all > > times. thats one of the reasons its absolutely vital that you shut your > > machine down properly. > > Not if you're running with ReiserFS. :) I don't know if I'll ever go > back to ext2. Not that there's anything wrong with it..its just that > Reiser is...Well, one day the power went out while I was running and > when it came back on the comp came back up and never missed a beat. At > that moment I was sold on ReiserFS. > -- > Mark > > "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being > worthless," > "Sharing is what makes them powerful." > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
Can you tell us newbies a little bit more about reiser, particularly, was it difficult to configure/set up? Also, If I share a drive with win on another partition, can I switch to reiser? I'm going to look it up now, but I was interested in your subjected opinion of it. -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux? Ryan Le Gros wrote: > > the way the linux file system works keeps your drive defragmented at all > times. thats one of the reasons its absolutely vital that you shut your > machine down properly. Not if you're running with ReiserFS. :) I don't know if I'll ever go back to ext2. Not that there's anything wrong with it..its just that Reiser is...Well, one day the power went out while I was running and when it came back on the comp came back up and never missed a beat. At that moment I was sold on ReiserFS. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:36, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Thursday 22 February 2001 08:35 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: > > Ryan Le Gros wrote: > > > the way the linux file system works keeps your drive > > > defragmented at all times. thats one of the reasons its > > > absolutely vital that you shut your machine down properly. > > > > Not if you're running with ReiserFS. :) I don't know if I'll > > ever go back to ext2. Not that there's anything wrong with it..its > > just that Reiser is...Well, one day the power went out while I was > > running and when it came back on the comp came back up and never > > missed a beat. At that moment I was sold on ReiserFS. > > hehehe, first time i used ReiserFS, shortly after the install I > hit the power off button on purpose. > Didn't even blink an eye while rebooting ;) Been using Rfs since > last summer with no problems > > http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/?dwzone=op >ensource looks like an up'an comer tho too. Ext3 should be finished soon as well, with suport in Kernel 2.4 to follow soon afterward. However, this appears to be basically Ext2 with journalling support and a few extras. ReiserFS, on the other hand, was written from the ground-up with journalling. To add to this, it has some other truly great features that most people seem to forget in the euphoria of getting journalling. Unlike most filesystems (Ext2 included), ReiserFS does *not* have clusters, which makes it *very* space-efficient and much quicker. I used to hate the idea of cluster waste eating up precious hard drive resources - but not any more. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
On Thursday 22 February 2001 08:35 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: > Ryan Le Gros wrote: > > the way the linux file system works keeps your drive defragmented > > at all times. thats one of the reasons its absolutely vital that > > you shut your machine down properly. > > Not if you're running with ReiserFS. :) I don't know if I'll ever > go back to ext2. Not that there's anything wrong with it..its just > that Reiser is...Well, one day the power went out while I was running > and when it came back on the comp came back up and never missed a > beat. At that moment I was sold on ReiserFS. hehehe, first time i used ReiserFS, shortly after the install I hit the power off button on purpose. Didn't even blink an eye while rebooting ;) Been using Rfs since last summer with no problems http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/?dwzone=opensource looks like an up'an comer tho too. -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever. Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
- Original Message - From: "John David Molina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux? > El Martes 20 Febrero 2001 11:39, escribiste: > > > - > > Windows is a virus. > > - > > > I disagree. Virus DO something right. ;-) Also, virus run useing minimal resources and with tidy and efficiant code. Windows runs with all resources available and then some, and has bloted 500 meg of stuff in its directory. > -- > John David Molina >
Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
El Martes 20 Febrero 2001 11:39, escribiste: > - > Windows is a virus. > - I disagree. Virus DO something right. ;-) -- John David Molina
Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
E2fsck is more like Windos Scandisc than Defrag, in that it finds and fixes errors (it does not defragment). Linux filesystems (namely Ext2, Ext3 and ReiserFS) are structured so that defragmenting is totally unnecessary. When you run e2fsck on an Ext2 partition, it gives its fragmentation status as a percentage (non-contiguous files). I have never had more than 3% with this. With FAT32 or NTFS this level of defragmentation is nearly impossible to achieve, and even if it was it would not be held for very long. On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 03:05, Anthony wrote: > The command is e2fsck. Generally there's no need to invoke this, as > most Linux distributions are set up to run every 20th boot up or so. > Check the man pages on how to use it. > > Anthony > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Is there a function (or need) to defrag hard drive(s) under Linux? > > > > - > > Windows is a virus. > > - -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
this seems like an opportune moment to ask about defragging of win partitions in linux, after encoding a lot of mp3s in linux simultaneously i noticed that when in win and running defrag that my mp3 partition (vfat) was majorly defragmented in a fashion that suggested that each successive cluster belonged to a different file than the one before, after defragging i got far fewer hiccups in playing mp3s both in win and linux esp. when doing other disk intensive activity, the point - is there a way to manually defrag a win drive from linux, i'm guessing that fsck doesn't take care of this? bascule On Tuesday 20 February 2001 10:33 pm, Romanator wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Is there a function (or need) to defrag hard drive(s) under Linux? > > > > - > > Windows is a virus. > > - > > > > Defrag is not need in Linux > > -- > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > The Tux email thread creator
RE: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
no need to !! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 20, 2001 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] defrag in Linux? Is there a function (or need) to defrag hard drive(s) under Linux? - Windows is a virus. - application/ms-tnef
Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
The command is e2fsck. Generally there's no need to invoke this, as most Linux distributions are set up to run every 20th boot up or so. Check the man pages on how to use it. Anthony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Is there a function (or need) to defrag hard drive(s) under Linux? > > - > Windows is a virus. > - >
Re: [newbie] defrag in Linux?
the way the linux file system works keeps your drive defragmented at all times. thats one of the reasons its absolutely vital that you shut your machine down properly. Ryan Le Gros - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:39 AM Subject: [newbie] defrag in Linux? > Is there a function (or need) to defrag hard drive(s) under Linux? > > > - > Windows is a virus. > - > > > >
