Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 12:41, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Hmm... very strange. I've never heard of any machine intended to > browse the web that didn't need to know at least one DNS server. > But then again, what do I know ? - The only thing I know about > windows is their need for frequent cleaning (or so my wife says) > and that they are utterly fragile. You really can't get anywhere without DNS. The Windows "Dialup" stuff is basically setup for using DHCP via the ISP; under unix/linux, you just have to get a bit more specific about setting that stuff up. BTW, in KPPP you're only supposed to provide a username and a password and a phone number - that's generally all it takes - unless you have a prob with the modem - otherwise, it should just work right from the get-go... ...and if not, locate and use WV-DIAL instead... > Or maybe you purchased a box with Windows preinstalled. In that > case your OEM and ISP probably had a *deal they couldn't refuse* > with Mr. Gates. That way the DNS could be precoded into your M$ > dialer. By the way : was it a real (external) modem or a > *winmodem* ? > > Anyway : have you tried the suggestions from us ? - Let us know > your mileage, please. > > Kaj Haulrich. -- Sat Aug 30 17:30:00 EST 2003 17:30:00 up 5 days, 7:16, 3 users, load average: 0.72, 0.72, 0.64 - |____ | illawarra computer services| | /-oo /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-13mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * If food is not reasonably clean, return uneaten portion for partial refund Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
Sharrea Day wrote: On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:43, Ronald J. Hall wrote: This sounds awfully familiar. Go to /etc/sysconfig and look at the network file. It should have something like this: NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=true HOSTNAME=darkforce.com (yours would go here) DOMAINNAME=com GATEWAY= GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 If your network file does not have this, edit it, then as root do a "service network restart" and try kppp then. Let us know what happens. Ron I'm sure you just hit the nail on the head! I take back my earlier advice, got a bit mixed up and forgot the correct file to edit. Don't know how I could forget since its the first thing I do after a clean install. Bet Ron's advice above fixes the problem. It is a bug in MDK9.1 where the gateway is incorrect for dialup modems and it is necessary to add the "GATEWAYDEV=ppp0". And Anarky, don't forget to restart the network after editing this file: # service network restart thanks !! thanks a LOT!!! You guys (everybody who's answered to this topic) have been GREAT!!! Incredible even! Thanks! Many many thanks. Like I said the problem isn't personal, I'm asking for the person with the problem (a bit shy/new).. but with all the info I'm sure the problem will get solved. Thanks a LOT!!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:43, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > This sounds awfully familiar. > > Go to /etc/sysconfig and look at the network file. It should have > something like this: > > NETWORKING=yes > FORWARD_IPV4=true > HOSTNAME=darkforce.com (yours would go here) > DOMAINNAME=com > GATEWAY= > GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 > > If your network file does not have this, edit it, then as root do a > "service network restart" and try kppp then. > > Let us know what happens. Ron I'm sure you just hit the nail on the head! I take back my earlier advice, got a bit mixed up and forgot the correct file to edit. Don't know how I could forget since its the first thing I do after a clean install. Bet Ron's advice above fixes the problem. It is a bug in MDK9.1 where the gateway is incorrect for dialup modems and it is necessary to add the "GATEWAYDEV=ppp0". And Anarky, don't forget to restart the network after editing this file: # service network restart Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] dialup problem
If its just a DNS server you want, then try using 139.130.4.5 it might be a tad slower because we are in australia, but it should work fine for you. regards Franki >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anarky >Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2003 9:05 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] dialup problem > > >Anne Wilson wrote: > >>On Saturday 30 Aug 2003 11:18 am, Anarky wrote: >> >> >> >>>I'm afraid we live in a darker side of the universe. Calling the >>>isp for us is pretty much 0% chance. >>> >>> >> >>Can you not get the info from your isp's website? Or can you not >>email from your machine on her behalf? ISPs are generally quite laid >>back about this - they gets lots of requests for the info. Many if >>not most give out an info sheet by email when you join up, giving the >>details. >> >> >well, not this one .. the isp came in free with the cellphone ... > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
Erylon Hines wrote: On Saturday 30 August 2003 06:18 am, Anarky wrote: Ron Stodden wrote: If you connect via the DHCP protocol the DNS servers will be set up automatically by your ISP's DHCP server.. but this is a windows service .. I don't know what DHCP is .. but I doubt they'll have it. A phone call and your ISP will be glad to tell you all his DSP IP dotted-quad addresses. I'm afraid we live in a darker side of the universe. Calling the isp for us is pretty much 0% chance. Who is your ISP? Most have customer service sections on their websites that have all the needed information. In fact mine (http://www.gorge.net) has an excellent KPPP how-to, including screenshots. wow .. a linux friendly isp!! wow! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Saturday 30 August 2003 06:18 am, Anarky wrote: > Ron Stodden wrote: > > If you connect via the DHCP protocol the DNS servers will be set up > > automatically by your ISP's DHCP server.. > > but this is a windows service .. I don't know what DHCP is .. but I > doubt they'll have it. > A phone call and your > > ISP will be glad to tell you all his DSP IP dotted-quad addresses. > > I'm afraid we live in a darker side of the universe. Calling the isp for > us is pretty much 0% chance. Who is your ISP? Most have customer service sections on their websites that have all the needed information. In fact mine (http://www.gorge.net) has an excellent KPPP how-to, including screenshots. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
Anarky wrote: Ron Stodden wrote: If you connect via the DHCP protocol the DNS servers will be set up automatically by your ISP's DHCP server.. but this is a windows service .. I don't know what DHCP is .. but I doubt they'll have it. Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol. Every ISP supports it since it is the Windows default Call your ISP to check. Mandrake includes a choice of three DHCP clients. IF DHCP is not used, you must enter them manually into kppp setup or /etc/resolv.conf (must be done separately on every machine on your local net, not only the gateway machine). A phone call and your ISP will be glad to tell you all his DSP IP dotted-quad addresses. I'm afraid we live in a darker side of the universe. Calling the isp for us is pretty much 0% chance. What do you mean? This information is a basic ISP service. If there is any difficulty you most certainly need to cut your losses and get another, a real, ISP. You can also use the Dynamic Name Servers of any other ISP, did you know? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] "If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come" Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Saturday 30 August 2003 01:05 pm, Anarky wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >On Saturday 30 Aug 2003 11:18 am, Anarky wrote: > >>I'm afraid we live in a darker side of the universe. Calling > >> the isp for us is pretty much 0% chance. > > > >Can you not get the info from your isp's website? Or can you > > not email from your machine on her behalf? ISPs are > > generally quite laid back about this - they gets lots of > > requests for the info. Many if not most give out an info > > sheet by email when you join up, giving the details. > > well, not this one .. the isp came in free with the cellphone > ... Anarky, You've got a lot information regarding DNS now. Your problem is almost 100% certain to be at your ISP's end. Most modern ISP's assign DNS-numbers automatically, which works fine, provided you have a DHCP client running. That's why so many people here advised you to check the *dynamic* option i the dialers' setup. However, there are instances when an ISP use *static* DNS. For example, when I had an account from AT&T here in Denmark, I had to check *static* - and then manually fill in the numbers in dotted notation. That did the trick. Of course, you need to know those numbers. Only way to get them is from your ISP. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Friday 29 August 2003 07:17 pm, Anarky wrote: > sounds like you know what you're talking about ... but I don't > really understand .. what/where exactly should she do? Go ahead and dial in as you normally do. Once in, check the /etc/resolv.conf file for name servers. You should see the dns servers for your local ISP in that file. They will be IP addresses. If you don't see any IP addresses or if all you see is 127.0.0.1, then you know that there is a problem with the dhcp client setting dns servers. If you confirm that is the problem, there is a network configuration panel that you can use to confirm that the interface for the dialup connection is set to pull dns from the dhcp server. To disable zeroconf, make sure that tmdns process is stopped and set to not activate on boot. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Saturday 30 Aug 2003 11:18 am, Anarky wrote: > I'm afraid we live in a darker side of the universe. Calling the > isp for us is pretty much 0% chance. Can you not get the info from your isp's website? Or can you not email from your machine on her behalf? ISPs are generally quite laid back about this - they gets lots of requests for the info. Many if not most give out an info sheet by email when you join up, giving the details. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
Ron Stodden wrote: If you connect via the DHCP protocol the DNS servers will be set up automatically by your ISP's DHCP server.. but this is a windows service .. I don't know what DHCP is .. but I doubt they'll have it. IF DHCP is not used, you must enter them manually into kppp setup or /etc/resolv.conf (must be done separetely on every machine on your local net, not only the gateway machine). A phone call and your ISP will be glad to tell you all his DSP IP dotted-quad addresses. I'm afraid we live in a darker side of the universe. Calling the isp for us is pretty much 0% chance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
Bryan Tyson wrote: On Friday 29 August 2003 22:41, Kaj Haulrich wrote: I've never heard of any machine intended to browse the web that didn't need to know at least one DNS server. You are correct that web browsing requires a DNS server. However, as I understand it, many ISPs automatically assign your DNS server when you connect. Can anyone confirm this? yes, that's the way all the dial-up accounts I've used work: they automatically give you a dns. In windows there's a place to check accepting something like this, I think, and it's on by default ... so what then? Of course, you can always enter a DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Saturday 30 August 2003 00:32, Anarky wrote: > ummm .. so what should she do exactly? and where? make sure that there are no other network configurations active like zeroconfig (though it shouldn't realy matter). To check if the connection is working; open a console window and type: "ping ww.google.com" without the quotes though. Output should look like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] triade]$ ping www.google.com PING www.google.com (216.239.37.99) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=149 ms 64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=154 ms 64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=156 ms --- www.google.com ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2028ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 149.689/153.444/156.045/2.720 ms [EMAIL PROTECTED] triade]$ If that don't work try pinging the adress directly (in the google case 216.239.37.99) thus: "ping 216.239.37.99" again w/o the quotes:o) If that does give you an output you're connecting OK only not resolving the names. So make sure dhcp is configured in kppp. If it does "zilch" it means there's no connection. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
Bryan Tyson wrote: On Friday 29 August 2003 22:41, Kaj Haulrich wrote: I've never heard of any machine intended to browse the web that didn't need to know at least one DNS server. You are correct that web browsing requires a DNS server. However, as I understand it, many ISPs automatically assign your DNS server when you connect. Can anyone confirm this? Of course, you can always enter a DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf. If you connect via the DHCP protocol the DNS servers will be set up automatically by your ISP's DHCP server.. IF DHCP is not used, you must enter them manually into kppp setup or /etc/resolv.conf (must be done separetely on every machine on your local net, not only the gateway machine). A phone call and your ISP will be glad to tell you all his DSP IP dotted-quad addresses. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] "If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come" Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] dialup problem
my favorite method of dialup is wvdial. Its an intelligent dialer that reads what the remote server says and responds appropraitely. urpmi wvdial (As root) cd /etc touch wvdial.conf wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf It will detect your modem, setup init strings and stuff and write some stuff to wvdial.conf Then you just edit the file and replace the username and password and phone number with your ISP's and run: wvdial and bobs your uncle.. it does all the work. as for DNS.. if you don't have a good DNS server, I use 139.130.4.5 in most places as a last resort dns server in /etc/resolv.conf Its an DNS server for Australias biggest ISP.. regards Franki >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anarky >Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2003 9:35 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] dialup problem > > >Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >>Hmm... very strange. I've never heard of any machine intended to >>browse the web that didn't need to know at least one DNS server. >>But then again, what do I know ? - The only thing I know about >>windows is their need for frequent cleaning (or so my wife says) >>and that they are utterly fragile. >> >> >I've used dialup for a long while and I never had to set any dns (in >windows) > >>Or maybe you purchased a box with Windows preinstalled. In that >>case your OEM and ISP probably had a *deal they couldn't refuse* >>with Mr. Gates. That way the DNS could be precoded into your M$ >>dialer. By the way : was it a real (external) modem or a >>*winmodem* ? >> >> >external modem. > >>Anyway : have you tried the suggestions from us ? - Let us know >>your mileage, please. >> >> >'mileage'? >I can't try anything out right now ... so I'm just trying to gather as >much info as possible for her :P > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Friday 29 August 2003 09:36 pm, Anarky wrote: > Marc wrote: > > What kind of modem are you using? I have set up quite a few machines > > using external modems with serial connections and never had a bit of > > trouble with 1 exception and that was on a notebook from hell. I guess > > that on a number of things I am not to good at troubleshooting problems > > in linux but external serial modem and KPPP have always been a 100% > > success requiring very little effort on my part. If you are using a > > internal modem that could complicate things a bit. > > nope, it's an external modem ... but like I said: the modem seems to > be working fine, it logins, connects & all .. it just that my linux > still thinks it's offline, or something. This sounds awfully familiar. Go to /etc/sysconfig and look at the network file. It should have something like this: NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=true HOSTNAME=darkforce.com (yours would go here) DOMAINNAME=com GATEWAY= GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 If your network file does not have this, edit it, then as root do a "service network restart" and try kppp then. Let us know what happens. -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Friday 29 August 2003 04:33 pm, Anarky wrote: > I'm asking this for a friend: > she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much > (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with > linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one > tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something > like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... > but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? Mis-configured DNS server, probably (either no ip for the dns servers or ip is incorrect). In KPPP, under the DNS tab, be sure that the domain name and the IP address of the servers is correct (yes, you MUST have a DNS server IP). You may need a #service network restart or a reboot to get it going. (Yes, somethimes rebooting does fix problems in Linux, in spite of what you may have heard). If you have a samba network configured, an /etc/resolv.conf entry could be the problem (unlikely, but could be). Your ISP's domain should show up there as "domain whatever.com", along with an entry for it in the "search" line--search whatever.com. Another file that used to cause problems (but not in the 9.x series, as far as I know) is the /etc/sysconfig/network could have an invalid entry, but with the newer distros this is extremely unlikely. If nothing you try works, as a last resort, delete the ~/.kde directory, logout and then back into KDE, and remake the KPPP connection properly. I have seen KPPP get locked-in and simply not work due to some internal error during configuration, and this will fix that particular problem. External modems (except for some USB) will always work with Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] dialup problem
Go to http://www.wurd.com/instcon_linuxkppp.php It's for Worldnet users, but gives a good kppp tutorial on what sort of questions you may need to ask. --- On Fri 08/29, Anarky < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: Anarky [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 23:33:22 +0300 Subject: [newbie] dialup problem I'm asking this for a friend:she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please?Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
ed tharp wrote: in KPPP, click the setup tab, make sure the accounts tab is active, highlight the name of the dialup account you created and click edit, then click on the tab that says DNS and make sure auotmajic is got the dot. click OK, click OK, and try to dialup again If still having problem, try: In KPPP, click the setup tab, make sure the device tab is active, and check the "use lock file" box. (If it's already checked, you might try unchecking it. Bob -- Bob Read // Registered Linux user #287118 http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura The Church of The Master [Baptist] Providence, Rhode Island http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 22:41, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Friday 29 August 2003 11:16 pm, Anarky wrote: > > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > >On Friday 29 August 2003 08:33 pm, Anarky wrote: > > >>I'm asking this for a friend: > > >>she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. > > >>pretty much (I was suprsied because I have never seen a > > >> dialup modem working with linux) ... thing is: it connects > > >> to the isp ... but any website one tries to browse to ... > > >> it says 'could not reach host' .. or something like htat .. > > >> so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... > > >> but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas > > >> please? > > > > > >I vaguely remember this problem from my modem days. It seems > > > that you can connect, but can't resolve hostnames. > > >What dialer do you use ? - If it's the KDE one (Internet > > >Dialer),open the settings dialog and make sure to set the > > >correct DNS servers (you've got them from your ISP). > > > > umm .. I don't thinks so, as in windows there was no need > > to set up any DNS. > > Hmm... very strange. I've never heard of any machine intended to > browse the web that didn't need to know at least one DNS server. > But then again, what do I know ? - The only thing I know about > windows is their need for frequent cleaning (or so my wife says) > and that they are utterly fragile. > > Or maybe you purchased a box with Windows preinstalled. In that > case your OEM and ISP probably had a *deal they couldn't refuse* > with Mr. Gates. That way the DNS could be precoded into your M$ > dialer. By the way : was it a real (external) modem or a > *winmodem* ? > > Anyway : have you tried the suggestions from us ? - Let us know > your mileage, please. > > Kaj Haulrich. a lot of times the dns servers are set when the dhcp lease is issued. you see folks complaining the /etc/resolv.conf changed after a dial-up session starts. in KPPP, click the setup tab, make sure the accounts tab is active, highlight the name of the dialup account you created and click edit, then click on the tab that says DNS and make sure auotmajic is got the dot. click OK, click OK, and try to dialup again Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Friday 29 August 2003 11:16 pm, Anarky wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >On Friday 29 August 2003 08:33 pm, Anarky wrote: > >>I'm asking this for a friend: > >>she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. > >>pretty much (I was suprsied because I have never seen a > >> dialup modem working with linux) ... thing is: it connects > >> to the isp ... but any website one tries to browse to ... > >> it says 'could not reach host' .. or something like htat .. > >> so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... > >> but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas > >> please? > > > >I vaguely remember this problem from my modem days. It seems > > that you can connect, but can't resolve hostnames. > >What dialer do you use ? - If it's the KDE one (Internet > >Dialer),open the settings dialog and make sure to set the > >correct DNS servers (you've got them from your ISP). > > umm .. I don't thinks so, as in windows there was no need > to set up any DNS. Hmm... very strange. I've never heard of any machine intended to browse the web that didn't need to know at least one DNS server. But then again, what do I know ? - The only thing I know about windows is their need for frequent cleaning (or so my wife says) and that they are utterly fragile. Or maybe you purchased a box with Windows preinstalled. In that case your OEM and ISP probably had a *deal they couldn't refuse* with Mr. Gates. That way the DNS could be precoded into your M$ dialer. By the way : was it a real (external) modem or a *winmodem* ? Anyway : have you tried the suggestions from us ? - Let us know your mileage, please. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Friday 29 August 2003 03:33 pm, Anarky wrote: > I'm asking this for a friend: > she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much > (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with > linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one > tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something > like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... > but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? > > > What kind of modem are you using? I have set up quite a few machines using external modems with serial connections and never had a bit of trouble with 1 exception and that was on a notebook from hell. I guess that on a number of things I am not to good at troubleshooting problems in linux but external serial modem and KPPP have always been a 100% success requiring very little effort on my part. If you are using a internal modem that could complicate things a bit. Marc KM5KW Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 18:32, Anarky wrote: > H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > >On Friday 29 August 2003 22:33, Anarky wrote: > > > > > >>I'm asking this for a friend: > >>she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much > >>(I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with > >>linux) > >> > >> > > > >Since the coming of "kppp" I've never known it not to work, providing the > >modem is recognized. > >So next time try that. > > > > > she was using kppp to connect ... cool app .. it connected, but the > network wasn't working > > > > > > >>... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one > >>tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something > >>like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... > >>but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? > >> > >> > > > >Probably the DNS is misconfigured...for a dialup one doesn't have to > >configure anything i.e. "loopback" is sufficient. > >Peoples coming from Windows usually overdo things here, expecting > >configuration to be some sort of black magic. > > > > > ummm .. so what should she do exactly? and where? > in kppp, she needs to setup the dns or in resolv.conf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Friday 29 August 2003 04:33 pm, Anarky wrote: I'm asking this for a friend: she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? Make sure that you have removed all of the zeroconf stuff from Mandrake. What is probably happening is that your network interface is activating before you dial in. Once you dial in, your dhcp is not getting setup correctly so you are not getting a DNS server to resolve addresses. sounds like you know what you're talking about ... but I don't really understand .. what/where exactly should she do? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 29 August 2003 08:33 pm, Anarky wrote: I'm asking this for a friend: she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? I vaguely remember this problem from my modem days. It seems that you can connect, but can't resolve hostnames. What dialer do you use ? - If it's the KDE one (Internet Dialer),open the settings dialog and make sure to set the correct DNS servers (you've got them from your ISP). umm .. I don't thinks so, as in windows there was no need to set up any DNS. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 29 August 2003 22:33, Anarky wrote: I'm asking this for a friend: she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with linux) Since the coming of "kppp" I've never known it not to work, providing the modem is recognized. So next time try that. she was using kppp to connect ... cool app .. it connected, but the network wasn't working ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? Probably the DNS is misconfigured...for a dialup one doesn't have to configure anything i.e. "loopback" is sufficient. Peoples coming from Windows usually overdo things here, expecting configuration to be some sort of black magic. ummm .. so what should she do exactly? and where? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Friday 29 August 2003 04:33 pm, Anarky wrote: > I'm asking this for a friend: > she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much > (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with > linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one > tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something > like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... > but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? Make sure that you have removed all of the zeroconf stuff from Mandrake. What is probably happening is that your network interface is activating before you dial in. Once you dial in, your dhcp is not getting setup correctly so you are not getting a DNS server to resolve addresses. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
Sharrea Day wrote: On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:33, Anarky wrote: I'm asking this for a friend: she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? In MCC (Mandrake Control Center) > Network & Internet > DrakConnect run the wizard and tell it to use the modem as the internet connection. Alternatively I think you can just edit /etc/sysconfig/drakconnect and change the type to modem: type=modem and then restart the network with: # service network restart hmm .. thanks .. hope this'll work Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Friday 29 August 2003 08:33 pm, Anarky wrote: > I'm asking this for a friend: > she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. > pretty much (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup > modem working with linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp > ... but any website one tries to browse to ... it says 'could > not reach host' .. or something like htat .. so it actually > connects, uses the password ... logs in ... but then > everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? I vaguely remember this problem from my modem days. It seems that you can connect, but can't resolve hostnames. What dialer do you use ? - If it's the KDE one (Internet Dialer),open the settings dialog and make sure to set the correct DNS servers (you've got them from your ISP). HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Friday 29 August 2003 22:33, Anarky wrote: > I'm asking this for a friend: > she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much > (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with > linux) Since the coming of "kppp" I've never known it not to work, providing the modem is recognized. So next time try that. > ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one > tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something > like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... > but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? Probably the DNS is misconfigured...for a dialup one doesn't have to configure anything i.e. "loopback" is sufficient. Peoples coming from Windows usually overdo things here, expecting configuration to be some sort of black magic. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dialup problem
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:33, Anarky wrote: > I'm asking this for a friend: > she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much > (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with > linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one > tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something > like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... > but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? In MCC (Mandrake Control Center) > Network & Internet > DrakConnect run the wizard and tell it to use the modem as the internet connection. Alternatively I think you can just edit /etc/sysconfig/drakconnect and change the type to modem: type=modem and then restart the network with: # service network restart Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] dialup problem
I'm asking this for a friend: she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
