Re: [newbie] giving up the ship?
I stopped ipchains with service ipchains stop then service iptables start, but its still broken. Is ipchains broken? Why is this software defective and how do I fix it? I wish they would write software that works, this is very frustrating when someone can't write proper software! :( ... ]# iptables -A INPUT -s 65.192.141.115 -j DROP /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o.gz: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o.gz failed modprobe: insmod ip_tables failed iptables v1.2.5: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. [root@localhost Desktop]# __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] giving up the ship?
yep.. I actually have an IIS server for testing behind my linux box firewall.. the linux apache is on port 80, and the IIS box is on port 10001, (via port forwarding with IPTABLES in linux.) works great and my setup is protected.. (it has every patch anyway.. but I still don't trust it.) Incidently, changing ports doesn't stop tools like Nessus from working it out though. rgds frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2002 10:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] giving up the ship? On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:43:48 -0700 (PDT), Ibly Piblo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How do you block Nimda attacks from your logs? > >Really, now, there must be a way, >I have tried script after script, >I am still getting attacked by this IP: > >65.192.141.115 > >Who are these criminals? Usually they're not criminals, they're just idiots. a) they're running IIS so they're not the sharpest tool in the box b) they've not paid any attention to the media outpourings over the last 12 months about Nimda, Code Red, IIS viruses in general c) they haven't taken the trouble to follow up on the reports and find & install any protection d) they're paying no attention to the behaviour of their server & and the fact that it's probably running like an asthmatic snail at the moment >I guess you just can't run a web server anymore. Oh yes you can. Remember that these attacks generate IP addresses & then attempt to connect to them on port 80. I moved my server from port 80 to port 81 about 6 months ago. Prior to that I was getting Nimda/Code Red hits in the logs every hour. Since then I've had ONE dodgy access & that was someone attempting to use me as a proxy! Now people just access my website as http://www.domain.com:81/page.html rather than http://www.domain.com/page.html I live in peace once more :-) Jon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] giving up the ship?
On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Ibly Piblo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Mr. Slater , is this what > it is supposed to say? > > > # iptables -A INPUT -s 65.192.141.115 -j DROP > /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o.gz: > init_module: Device or resource busy > Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module > parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters > modprobe: insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o.gz > failed > modprobe: insmod ip_tables failed > iptables v1.2.5: can't initialize iptables table > `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?) > Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. > [root@localhost ] You may have ipchains running instead of iptables. You may have to look at system services to see--stop ipchains and start iptables. -- Todd Slater Not currently listening to tunes Intelligence appears to be the thing that enables a man to get along without education. Education enables a man to get along without the use of his intelligence. (Albert Edward Wiggam) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] giving up the ship?
- Original Message - From: "Todd Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] giving up the ship? > On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:43:48 -0700 (PDT) > Ibly Piblo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How do you block Nimda attacks from your logs? > > > > Really, now, there must be a way, > > I have tried script after script, > > I am still getting attacked by this IP: > > > > 65.192.141.115 > > Use iptables. > > iptables -A INPUT -s 65.192.141.115 -j DROP > > > > Isnt there something easier, a script I can > > just download and install? > > I use one that was posted on this list a while ago. > > > I'm going to aggressively fight back, > > if there is a script that I can put in my > > /bin directory that will scan my /var/tmp/blocked > > file and instead of just ipchain-ing them out, > > (INEFFECTIVE!) it will shut them down, > > it is the only way. > > I believe Civileme posted a link to a page on PLF that contained such a > script. Check the archives. It is annoying. I've been hit by 81 infected > computers in a little over 2 weeks. > > If you drop them, they should not be showing up in your http logs. > iptables gets flushed everytime you restart--could that be it? I run this > if I have to restart: > > #!/bin/bash > for idiot in `cat /var/tmp/blocked` > do > iptables -A INPUT -s $idiot -j DROP > done > exit > > HTH, > Todd Another option is to put the offending IP address in your apache commonhttpd.conf: Order allow,deny Allow from all Deny from 65.192.141.115 You can list as many as you want Then restart Apache Once a week I go thru my logs and add the newest worst offenders, and remove those that are over 2 months old. Roy Murray www.ServiceTechHelp.com www.roymurray.net Linux Registered User 243148 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] giving up the ship?
Thank you Mr. Slater , is this what it is supposed to say? # iptables -A INPUT -s 65.192.141.115 -j DROP /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o.gz: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o.gz failed modprobe: insmod ip_tables failed iptables v1.2.5: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. [root@localhost ] __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] giving up the ship?
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:43:48 -0700 (PDT), Ibly Piblo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How do you block Nimda attacks from your logs? > >Really, now, there must be a way, >I have tried script after script, >I am still getting attacked by this IP: > >65.192.141.115 > >Who are these criminals? Usually they're not criminals, they're just idiots. a) they're running IIS so they're not the sharpest tool in the box b) they've not paid any attention to the media outpourings over the last 12 months about Nimda, Code Red, IIS viruses in general c) they haven't taken the trouble to follow up on the reports and find & install any protection d) they're paying no attention to the behaviour of their server & and the fact that it's probably running like an asthmatic snail at the moment >I guess you just can't run a web server anymore. Oh yes you can. Remember that these attacks generate IP addresses & then attempt to connect to them on port 80. I moved my server from port 80 to port 81 about 6 months ago. Prior to that I was getting Nimda/Code Red hits in the logs every hour. Since then I've had ONE dodgy access & that was someone attempting to use me as a proxy! Now people just access my website as http://www.domain.com:81/page.html rather than http://www.domain.com/page.html I live in peace once more :-) Jon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] giving up the ship?
Unless I'm mistaken, what you are suggesting to do is illegal in most barrios, but if you snoop around in the right places i'm sure you can find someone to play enabler to your skr1p7 k1dd33 lusts. don't expect anyone on this list to give you some magic script that thwarts the bad guys. just firewall that crap off and ignore it. but since they are sending out stuff... Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Interesting ports on (65.192.141.115): (The 1591 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) Port State Service 135/tcpfilteredloc-srv 136/tcpfilteredprofile 137/tcpfilterednetbios-ssn 138/tcpfilterednetbios-ssn 139/tcpfilterednetbios-ssn 445/tcpopenmicrosoft-ds 1025/tcp openNFS-or-IIS 5000/tcp openUPnP 6346/tcp filteredgnutella 6699/tcp filterednapster No exact OS matches for host (If you know what OS is running on it, see http://www.insecure.org/ fingerprint: run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 46 seconds On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 23:43, Ibly Piblo wrote: > How do you block Nimda attacks from your logs? > > Really, now, there must be a way, > I have tried script after script, > I am still getting attacked by this IP: > > 65.192.141.115 > > Who are these criminals? > > They have no right attacking me like this! > > I can't whois them or traceroute, or samspade them, > it is not fair. > > I guess you just can't run a web server anymore. > > Is there one good reason why I should not > give up? > > I don't understand "honeyport", it is too hard. > > Isnt there something easier, a script I can > just download and install? > > Surely, by now, someone has invented a more > effective method, surely, I mean, are all the world's > webmasters just going to sit down, and take it > in the back? > > Is there a kind soul out there who would like to > offer a script to this list that would retaliate > by remotely shutting down the attacking server? > > This has got to stop, I have sat by for too long, > and I don't intend to take this attacking any longer. > > I wish to thank all those who offered me the > web pages of honeyport, thank you so much, > but I'm looking for something that is more > assertive, something that will *do* something, > not just e mail the admin only to be ignored, > I'm not playing Mr. Nice any more. -- jason gmaestro.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] giving up the ship?
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Ibly Piblo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you block Nimda attacks from your logs? > > Really, now, there must be a way, > I have tried script after script, > I am still getting attacked by this IP: > > 65.192.141.115 Use iptables. iptables -A INPUT -s 65.192.141.115 -j DROP > Isnt there something easier, a script I can > just download and install? I use one that was posted on this list a while ago. > I'm going to aggressively fight back, > if there is a script that I can put in my > /bin directory that will scan my /var/tmp/blocked > file and instead of just ipchain-ing them out, > (INEFFECTIVE!) it will shut them down, > it is the only way. I believe Civileme posted a link to a page on PLF that contained such a script. Check the archives. It is annoying. I've been hit by 81 infected computers in a little over 2 weeks. If you drop them, they should not be showing up in your http logs. iptables gets flushed everytime you restart--could that be it? I run this if I have to restart: #!/bin/bash for idiot in `cat /var/tmp/blocked` do iptables -A INPUT -s $idiot -j DROP done exit HTH, Todd -- Todd Slater Not currently listening to tunes My grandmother wanted me to have an education, so she kept me out of school. (Margaret Mead) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] giving up the ship?
How do you block Nimda attacks from your logs? Really, now, there must be a way, I have tried script after script, I am still getting attacked by this IP: 65.192.141.115 Who are these criminals? They have no right attacking me like this! I can't whois them or traceroute, or samspade them, it is not fair. I guess you just can't run a web server anymore. Is there one good reason why I should not give up? I don't understand "honeyport", it is too hard. Isnt there something easier, a script I can just download and install? Surely, by now, someone has invented a more effective method, surely, I mean, are all the world's webmasters just going to sit down, and take it in the back? Is there a kind soul out there who would like to offer a script to this list that would retaliate by remotely shutting down the attacking server? This has got to stop, I have sat by for too long, and I don't intend to take this attacking any longer. I wish to thank all those who offered me the web pages of honeyport, thank you so much, but I'm looking for something that is more assertive, something that will *do* something, not just e mail the admin only to be ignored, I'm not playing Mr. Nice any more. I'm going to aggressively fight back, if there is a script that I can put in my /bin directory that will scan my /var/tmp/blocked file and instead of just ipchain-ing them out, (INEFFECTIVE!) it will shut them down, it is the only way. Thank you so much to all who help. __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] giving up
Bernhard, Here's what it says when I type in "top" and "M" --- 11:08pm up 13 min, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.46, 0.4044 processes: 40 sleeping, 3 running, 1 zombie, 0 stoppedCPU states: 3.3% user, 1.1% system, 0.0% nice, 95.4% idleMem: 13604K av, 13228K used, 376K free, 7936K shrd, 304K buffSwap: 369452K av, 10108K used, 359344K free 5544K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 626 root 8 0 2260 2040 1624 R 0 2.1 14.9 0:00 konsole 519 root 13 0 19944 18M 756 R 0 1.9 139.4 0:09 X 630 root 3 0 1044 1044 848 R 0 0.3 7.6 0:00 top 1 root 0 0 76 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:04 init 2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kflushd 3 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kpiod 4 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kswapd 119 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 apmd 262 bin 0 0 80 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 portmap 308 root 0 0 156 68 56 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00 syslogd 318 root 0 0 360 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 klogd 331 daemon 0 0 80 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 atd 344 root 0 0 164 108 84 S 0 0.0 0.7 0:00 crond 357 root 0 0 100 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 inetd 370 root 0 0 112 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 lpd 386 root 0 0 92 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.statd 396 root 0 0 80 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.rquotad 406 root 0 0 100 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.mountd 420 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 nfsd 421 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 lockd 422 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpciod 458 root 0 0 288 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 sendmail 472 root 0 0 108 56 52 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00 gpm 491 xfs 0 0 1116 380 272 S 0 0.0 2.7 0:00 xfs 509 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 510 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 511 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 512 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 513 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 514 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 515 root 0 0 356 4 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 prefdm 517 root 0 0 88 44 36 S 0 0.0 0.3 0:00 update 520 root 0 0 644 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 prefdm 529 root 2 0 1212 916 708 S 0 0.0 6.7 0:01 kwm 564 root 0 0 0 0 0 Z 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kwmsound 565 root 0 0 1200 388 272 S 0 0.0 2.8 0:00 kfm 566 root 0 0 672 324 288 S 0 0.0 2.3 0:00 krootwm 567 root 0 0 1460 1008 828 S 0 0.0 7.4 0:01 kpanel 568 root 0 0 896 352 320 S 0 0.0 2.5 0:00 kbgndwm 585 root 0 0 820 488 400 S 0 0.0 3.5 0:00 kcmlaptop 610 root 0 0 704 212 184 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 konsole 611 root 0 0 236 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 bash 625 root 0 0 1564 816 500 S 0 0.0 5.9 0:01 kmail 627 root 0 0 944 936 708 S 0 0.0 6.8 0:00 bash
Re: [newbie] giving up
Bernhard, Here's what it says when I type in "top" and "M" --- 11:08pm up 13 min, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.46, 0.4044 processes: 40 sleeping, 3 running, 1 zombie, 0 stoppedCPU states: 3.3% user, 1.1% system, 0.0% nice, 95.4% idleMem: 13604K av, 13228K used, 376K free, 7936K shrd, 304K buffSwap: 369452K av, 10108K used, 359344K free 5544K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 626 root 8 0 2260 2040 1624 R 0 2.1 14.9 0:00 konsole 519 root 13 0 19944 18M 756 R 0 1.9 139.4 0:09 X 630 root 3 0 1044 1044 848 R 0 0.3 7.6 0:00 top 1 root 0 0 76 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:04 init 2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kflushd 3 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kpiod 4 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kswapd 119 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 apmd 262 bin 0 0 80 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 portmap 308 root 0 0 156 68 56 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00 syslogd 318 root 0 0 360 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 klogd 331 daemon 0 0 80 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 atd 344 root 0 0 164 108 84 S 0 0.0 0.7 0:00 crond 357 root 0 0 100 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 inetd 370 root 0 0 112 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 lpd 386 root 0 0 92 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.statd 396 root 0 0 80 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.rquotad 406 root 0 0 100 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.mountd 420 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 nfsd 421 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 lockd 422 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpciod 458 root 0 0 288 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 sendmail 472 root 0 0 108 56 52 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00 gpm 491 xfs 0 0 1116 380 272 S 0 0.0 2.7 0:00 xfs 509 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 510 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 511 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 512 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 513 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 514 root 0 0 68 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 mingetty 515 root 0 0 356 4 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 prefdm 517 root 0 0 88 44 36 S 0 0.0 0.3 0:00 update 520 root 0 0 644 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 prefdm 529 root 2 0 1212 916 708 S 0 0.0 6.7 0:01 kwm 564 root 0 0 0 0 0 Z 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kwmsound 565 root 0 0 1200 388 272 S 0 0.0 2.8 0:00 kfm 566 root 0 0 672 324 288 S 0 0.0 2.3 0:00 krootwm 567 root 0 0 1460 1008 828 S 0 0.0 7.4 0:01 kpanel 568 root 0 0 896 352 320 S 0 0.0 2.5 0:00 kbgndwm 585 root 0 0 820 488 400 S 0 0.0 3.5 0:00 kcmlaptop 610 root 0 0 704 212 184 S 0 0.0 1.5 0:00 konsole 611 root 0 0 236 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 bash 625 root 0 0 1564 816 500 S 0 0.0 5.9 0:01 kmail 627 root 0 0 944 936 708 S 0 0.0 6.8 0:00 bash
Re: [newbie] giving up
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Jimmy Garcia wrote: > But, all is not well. My computer is still VERY slow in Linux. The new > initscripts didn't really help out in that area. Linux still keeps > accessing my hard drive, and it takes forever to load anything. When you type "top" on the console, you get a list of the processes using most CPU time. Which ones are listed first? Then, still in top, type "M" to get a list of the processes using up most memory. Which ones are listed first here? What does the "free" command say? > 2 IBM 7,200rpm 10.1G ide hard drives. That drive should be UDMA capable... You can speed it up by typing "hdparm -X66 /dev/hda". If it works, you should add this command to /etc/rc.d/rc.local. > Is my swap file partition too big? You probably won't need a swap partition that big, but aside from wasting diskspace, it doesn't hurt. LLaP bero
Re: [newbie] giving up
I think your swap file is too big although I don't know if that affects speed or not. The maximum is 128mb. You can make two swap files, though. With only 64 mb of RAM and a sluggish 233 pentium, Linux Mandrake in my computer whips right along fastfast. Maybe some configuration problem. Te watcho, steve Winston --- Jimmy Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I reinstalled Linux-Mandrake and did everything you > said below. My > computer hasn't hung since! It solved my > shutdown/logout problem. I was > also able to configure my cable modem internet > access and I can now go > online. (I would be writing this from Linux right > now, but I forgot the > email address! :) > > But, all is not well. My computer is still VERY > slow in Linux. The new > initscripts didn't really help out in that area. > Linux still keeps > accessing my hard drive, and it takes forever to > load anything. > > If it'll be of any help, here are my specs: > > 2 IBM 7,200rpm 10.1G ide hard drives. > > Primary partition is Fat32 (win98) w/ 3.5G > Linux Ext2 is 5.7G (logical) > Linux Swap is 360 (logical) > and there's a Linux Ext2 partition that the > install made that's 23.5MB > (logical) > > 128MB pc100 ram, 300a@450, Creative Labs TNT, SBlive > value, tekram dc390f > scsi card, 3com ethernet card, ultraplex and > plexwriter 8x. > > Is my swap file partition too big? Or do I have to > install something else? > > Thanks everyone! I'm glad that I didn't give up. I > really would love to say > goodbye to windoze! > > Jimmy > > > > > Ok, so I'm assuming you haven't set up net access > in Linux either. > > Download the updated initscripts package, and put > it to C:\. > > Now boot Linux. > > Assuming your DOS/Windoze C:\ partition is > /dev/hda1 (=first partition of > > the primary master IDE drive), > > > > mkdir /mnt/tmp > > mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp > > rpm -U --force /mnt/tmp/initscripts* > > > > Yes, there is a GUI way to do this too, but I know > this way better. ;) > > > > LLaP > > bero > > > > > > > > > > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] giving up
I reinstalled Linux-Mandrake and did everything you said below. My computer hasn't hung since! It solved my shutdown/logout problem. I was also able to configure my cable modem internet access and I can now go online. (I would be writing this from Linux right now, but I forgot the email address! :) But, all is not well. My computer is still VERY slow in Linux. The new initscripts didn't really help out in that area. Linux still keeps accessing my hard drive, and it takes forever to load anything. If it'll be of any help, here are my specs: 2 IBM 7,200rpm 10.1G ide hard drives. Primary partition is Fat32 (win98) w/ 3.5G Linux Ext2 is 5.7G (logical) Linux Swap is 360 (logical) and there's a Linux Ext2 partition that the install made that's 23.5MB (logical) 128MB pc100 ram, 300a@450, Creative Labs TNT, SBlive value, tekram dc390f scsi card, 3com ethernet card, ultraplex and plexwriter 8x. Is my swap file partition too big? Or do I have to install something else? Thanks everyone! I'm glad that I didn't give up. I really would love to say goodbye to windoze! Jimmy > Ok, so I'm assuming you haven't set up net access in Linux either. > Download the updated initscripts package, and put it to C:\. > Now boot Linux. > Assuming your DOS/Windoze C:\ partition is /dev/hda1 (=first partition of > the primary master IDE drive), > > mkdir /mnt/tmp > mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp > rpm -U --force /mnt/tmp/initscripts* > > Yes, there is a GUI way to do this too, but I know this way better. ;) > > LLaP > bero > > > >
Re: [newbie] giving up
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Hidong Kim wrote: > I'm pretty sure the maximum allowable single swap partition size is 128 > mb. No longer. It used to be until some 2.1 kernel (2.1.25, I think). LLaP bero
Re: [newbie] giving up
Hi, Jimmy, That's quite a bummer that your Mandrake 6.0 machine is running so sickly. We have three mandrake 5.3 machines, and they're all running like greased lightning on skids. I'm quite a newbie myself, but I suspect that the problems you're seeing are the rare exception. From the description of your system, I can't see why it would be so slow. Do you have a single 200 mb swap partition? I'm pretty sure the maximum allowable single swap partition size is 128 mb. Well, I hope someone can help you get your system running. If not, Windows isn't so bad at all. Good luck, Hidong > Jimmy Garcia wrote: > > I've spent a week, unsuccessfully, trying to get Linux-Mandrake 6.0 to > work properly. After getting through the install procedure, which went > by with no real difficulty, I started Linux and was amazed at how slow > it was. It kept accessing my hard drive for almost every little > thing I did. I gave it a 3 Gig ext2 partition and a 200MB swap file > partition from my 10Gig IBM 7200RPM ide hard drive. All my hardware > is supposed to be compatible with it (except for my SB Live). It took > like 3 minutes for Netscape to load, it took 3 minutes for a desktop > theme to apply, and there was obviously something wrong with it. I > tried to shut it down, but then it hung while "preparing a new > session." When I rebooted, there were errors on my hard drive and I > had to 'run fsck manually'. I did, and when I started it again, some > programs wouldn't work like, Netcfg. Some Icons turned black in KDE > and I couldn't even click on them. I had the same shutdown problem > and decided to re-install it. > The same things happened to me. I was told that I have to upgrade > some kernal or something. But, I can't even load Linux without having > to go through that lengthy fsck procedure at startup. > > I guess I just stick to windows :( > > For those Linux experts out there, someone should come up with a site > or book that'll help people migrate from Windows to Linux. > Just a suggestion. > > Thanks everyone! > > James Garcia >
Re: [newbie] giving up
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Jimmy Garcia wrote: > I guess I should try, could you let me know how do to do that? > I'm someone who's worked with windows since I started with computers and I > can't even mount a MSDOS drive, so please take it easy with all those > linux/unix terms :) Ok, so I'm assuming you haven't set up net access in Linux either. Download the updated initscripts package, and put it to C:\. Now boot Linux. Assuming your DOS/Windoze C:\ partition is /dev/hda1 (=first partition of the primary master IDE drive), mkdir /mnt/tmp mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp rpm -U --force /mnt/tmp/initscripts* Yes, there is a GUI way to do this too, but I know this way better. ;) LLaP bero
Re: [newbie] giving up
I guess I should try, could you let me know how do to do that? I'm someone who's worked with windows since I started with computers and I can't even mount a MSDOS drive, so please take it easy with all those linux/unix terms :) Thanks, Jimmy - Original Message - From: Bernhard Rosenkraenzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 1999 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] giving up > On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Jimmy Garcia wrote: > > > I've spent a week, unsuccessfully, trying to get Linux-Mandrake 6.0 to > > work properly. After getting through the install procedure, which went > > by with no real difficulty, I started Linux and was amazed at how slow > > it was. It kept accessing my hard drive for almost every little thing > > Did you update the initscripts package? > > LLaP > bero > > > >
Re: [newbie] giving up
You never said how much RAM you have. If you have just 32MB of memory, in my humble opinion, that is too little for KDE/Netscape. Jimmy Garcia wrote: > I've spent a week, unsuccessfully, trying to get Linux-Mandrake 6.0 to > work properly. After getting through the install procedure, which went > by with no real difficulty, I started Linux and was amazed at how slow > it was. It kept accessing my hard drive for almost every little thing > I did. I gave it a 3 Gig ext2 partition and a 200MB swap file > partition from my 10Gig IBM 7200RPM ide hard drive. All my hardware > is supposed to be compatible with it (except for my SB Live). It took > like 3 minutes for Netscape to load, it took 3 minutes for a desktop > theme to apply, and there was obviously something wrong with it. I > tried to shut it down, but then it hung while "preparing a new > session." When I rebooted, there were errors on my hard drive and I > had to 'run fsck manually'. I did, and when I started it again, some > programs wouldn't work like, Netcfg. Some Icons turned black in KDE > and I couldn't even click on them. I had the same shutdown problem > and decided to re-install it.The same things happened to me. I was > told that I have to upgrade some kernal or something. But, I can't > even load Linux without having to go through that lengthy fsck > procedure at startup. I guess I just stick to windows :( For those > Linux experts out there, someone should come up with a site or book > that'll help people migrate from Windows to Linux.Just a > suggestion. Thanks everyone! James Garcia
Re: [newbie] giving up
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Jimmy Garcia wrote: > I've spent a week, unsuccessfully, trying to get Linux-Mandrake 6.0 to > work properly. After getting through the install procedure, which went > by with no real difficulty, I started Linux and was amazed at how slow > it was. It kept accessing my hard drive for almost every little thing Did you update the initscripts package? LLaP bero
RE: [newbie] giving up
We are. My self and 15 other people are creating a Book for new users. It will be a easy transition from Windows to Linux... Or what ever OS you are using at this time. Bad news it will not be out for a little while though sorry... James J. Capone === Webmaster http://linuxuser.8m.com Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author - Linux Book For Newbies. "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" < For those Linux experts out there, someone should come up with a site or book that'll help people migrate from Windows to Linux. Just a suggestion.> >
[newbie] giving up
I've spent a week, unsuccessfully, trying to get Linux-Mandrake 6.0 to work properly. After getting through the install procedure, which went by with no real difficulty, I started Linux and was amazed at how slow it was. It kept accessing my hard drive for almost every little thing I did. I gave it a 3 Gig ext2 partition and a 200MB swap file partition from my 10Gig IBM 7200RPM ide hard drive. All my hardware is supposed to be compatible with it (except for my SB Live). It took like 3 minutes for Netscape to load, it took 3 minutes for a desktop theme to apply, and there was obviously something wrong with it. I tried to shut it down, but then it hung while "preparing a new session." When I rebooted, there were errors on my hard drive and I had to 'run fsck manually'. I did, and when I started it again, some programs wouldn't work like, Netcfg. Some Icons turned black in KDE and I couldn't even click on them. I had the same shutdown problem and decided to re-install it. The same things happened to me. I was told that I have to upgrade some kernal or something. But, I can't even load Linux without having to go through that lengthy fsck procedure at startup. I guess I just stick to windows :( For those Linux experts out there, someone should come up with a site or book that'll help people migrate from Windows to Linux. Just a suggestion. Thanks everyone! James Garcia
